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>>2123764

Ah yes, been said that too but I don't really understand its meaning.

op ur a fagget XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

I'm in a similar situation. I have a crisis of identity. I know longer know what is good about me. My accomplishment have not served me. And my downfalls fill my mind. Suicide has been a regular thought, though i know i won't do it. I get little pieces of help from a therapist, a close family member, a friend. and lit. My issues revolve around identity, a serious breakdown in empathy for a girl that i was in love with. I have read Ishmael and it gave a small piece of myself back. I've read women by bukowski and gave a little piece of myself back. I've looked at my finances and it's given a little piece of myself back. I am in state of complete withdrawal from the world. I've lost a lot of weight. I torture myself with guilt over a break in sanity that led to hurting the one i love. I'm tortured by the desperation i felt when i saw myself loosing her. and i'm tortured by the loss of my identity that led to it all and i continue to struggle, locking myself inside and finding little pieces where i can.

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>>2123787
>>2123787
>>2123787
you know, you torture. you troll in real life. and i can't stop biting the hook. I would have been better off going to prison that night , maybe.

>>2123764
no seriously this is what you need to do. Depression affects you worse when you're a submissive pussy. You don't want to remove the ego, you want to boost it to an insane high and become master of your self and master of the depression.

>>2123780

I'm so sorry to hear that, man. It must be an awful landscape but at least you should be glad for being so spiritually connected to a person you fell in love with. Btw, how old are you?

>>2123795
your the victim. am i the victim? who is the victim. if us both then how can i fix this. where is my life. where is my worth.

> all I see is darkness inside my head. Point is I've got too many desires unsatisfied (love, art, etc), and that fills me with anguish and frustration.

seems you have what is necessary to be a great writer

>>t
i lost my mind and put my suffering on someone else

>>2123795
kristina tiessen

>>2123794

Perhaps you're right.

Damn, you are right. All I need is a chance to apply this to real life right now I'm so fucking willing and strenuous: tomorrow, back to the shame.

You and I have the same problem.

And old soul occupied a young body...the burden of an unsatisfied desire is, at times, the worst thing a man can experience.
I am certainly not talking about momentary desires, but deep ones.
The secret, my friend, is to give in. To what, you may ask. Well, just give in to live. I'll epitome the situation for you.
You are nothing. You are nothing to the eyes of the universe. You are a bunch of atoms, molecules, cells, bound together in a brief being who will die before realiizing what believing in nothingness can do to a man. Is paniminimalism, or nihilism the way to go? Yes, that is the ultimate path to freedom. Death means nothing, yours or mine.

Our size, our small size compared to the great universe that surrounds us, gives us freedom. There is a reason behind the saying "Live fast, die young and leave a beautiful corpse."
Give in to all your desires, all your wishes, all your whims. For only then you can experience freedom, the freeedom to live. The money, material possesions, everything that everybody has ever taught about life is wrong. None of those things matter, the true purpose of life is living it. The way you want to.

Thus, our only problem here is lack of will. You want to see your dreams fulfilled, but you are not willing to sacrifice your comfort to reach such noble goal. Realize your size, accept it and just live.

>>2123882
Good god....
I salute you Anon, for that will probably turn my life around. I can only hope for the best. Props to you.

>>2123882

Thanks Jim, I love you

>>2123900
I honestly hope that my words can fuel others in the proper way. That's the ultimate purpose my friend, to live. And that is all I want to do.
>>2123905
More than welcome friend.

>>2123912
I'm actually impressed. I did not know that there was such a deep level of 'meaning' here.

>>2123882
we have a young william blake here lol
great piece mate

>>2123927
Everybody has a story, if you listen carefully, you can learn something from every single living soul.
>>2123933
I wish, the man is one of my idols actually.
The problem with idols is that the often overshade our deeds....we can only dream of reaching the same baseline. No one ever tries to create their own path, they merely try to emulate the path of their totems, idols, gods...we can walk to the edge of the universe and the only thing we'll see is footprints.

>>2123882
Thanks Jim, for everything.

Goddamn samefag! Stop it!

>>2123945
You're more than welcome my friend, I hope it helps.

*Sidenote: my name is actually Jim, thus me answering that call.

>>2123954
learn2checkforsamefag

>>2123958
samefag

>>2123961

OP just start with small steps, most of it is just self acceptance and not looking at everything so negatively.

>>2123973
I'd consider OP's point of view realistic.
What can a man do, but live, when he knows that he will die? The problem here is not the point of view, is the lack of action.

>>2123977
Then.. Just do it.
Don't think about it just do it.

>>2123882
This. Sorta.

This is probably not comprehensive at all but:

Nothing matters, you've conceived your own goals. Well, you were probably influenced by the society, but that doesn't matter. Point is, there's nothing you really have to do or achieve. Art, love and all these things are human inventions. Do you really want and need to meet someone elses expectations (you mean love = relationship, right?). Do whatever you want to, but be kind toward other beings, because you are dependent on them. If you are good to other people, they'll generally be good to you too. Both sides profit.

Embrace this nothingness. Fuck nihilism nawimsayin, check buddhism out. Imo, the path to permanent peace of mind is to have no thought. If all your desires arise from thought, than the logical conclusion is to set aside these thoughts. Listen, feel, look, but don't go deeper. sit and listen the world go by. If you hear a sound don't think about it. let go of it. don't expect any other sound. when thought comes, gently push it away. pick up a pen and feel the picking of the pen up. don't have a preconceived idea of picking the pen up. only feel the most basic things. if you do this you'll see things as they really are. You'll see that things are actually pretty cool if you don't think about them.

anyway, drunk lips speak a sober mind i guess.

>>2123987
That was my point all along.

>>2123988
Actually, Zen Buddhism mentions Nihilism as one of the best paths to achieve balance. I'll post a couple of images that will explain that.
Cut the psychoterapist bullshit out of said images, and you have the perfect recipe for life.


Also, what you are basically saying is to slide....I like it, it may work for most people, but I'm a curious being. Try both versions, the sliding one and the "let's see how deep this goes".

>>2124007
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>>2124011
And 2.

Don't misinterpret what's being said in these images. Absorve only the essential, and cut the other crap out. This guy understands what life is about yet he choses to follow the standards.
Apply minimalism here.

>>2124007
I know nihilism is not bad, necessarily. But i think there's more to it (or less to or w/e). I've written about this below the nihilism part.

lets keep this /lit/ related..

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>>2124016
The "more" you mention, is life itself. Believing in nothing is a good choice, trying to forge your own path is too.

The problem with most nihilists is that they give up instead of embracing what this "nothingness" gives them, the freedom that is.

>>2124020
this may be something

>The problem with most nihilists is that they....
are angsty teen students

FTFY

>>2124011
>>2124015
>>2124020
Yes, I totally agree :)

Hello /lit/, I wish to read about the English reformation. I've heard that a good book about this is Wolf Hall by Hilary Mante.

Has anybody read it? Amazon reviews seem very mixed though the majority of negative ones appear to be written by dribbling retards.

If you haven't read it could you recommend me something on it?

>>2124026
They might sound like it, but that is not the case. If they were truly to embrace nihilism in its most basic form, we would have an entire generation on the street.

>>2124030
I read 'The Long European Reformation: Religion, Political Conflict and the Search for Conformity' by peter wallace and that was prettty cool.... england was mentioned in it a few times.
Don't know if thats much help

>>2124034
> If they were truly to embrace nihilism in its most basic form, we would have an entire generation...
of middle-class, white, male students on the streets bickering amongst one another, primarily about the correct definition of 'nihilism'

FTFY

>>2124045
Where is this bitterness coming from? I am not trying to be ironic here, it is just curiosity.

>>2124048
He was/is one of those..
>of middle-class, white, male students on the streets bickering amongst one another, primarily about the correct definition of 'nihilism'

>>2124104
I presumed that too, but was waiting for the confirmation...

>>2123764
this

the stoics were good at this
read seneca, marcus aurelius and epictetus

>>2124150
A cup of man the fuck up, is often missunderstood. It's not about being affected by life, it's about doing something about it.

I am a depressive person by nature, but that never puts me down. Why? I take action, I choose not to be put down. That is, a cup of man the fuck up.

>>2124160
mfw I read all your posts in Jim Morrison's voice

>>2124179
Art thou a fan too?

>I'm interested, how do you guys deal with depression?
World war 2

>>2124186
I see what you did there.

I like to lie down in bed and think about all the mistakes I've made and what I should have done, and then I check up on people on Facebook and see how much more successful they are than me, and then I get back in bed and wonder how much better life would be if I had tried harder in school and in my relationships. Then right before bed I tell myself that I'm done with making mistakes and that starting the following morning, I'm going to stop being a fag and get shit done and become a better person. But then I wake up with heartburn and fall back into my old ways because my life is stupid and beyond the point of repair.

It's kind of weird how a soon-to-be 24 year old can feel so young and at the same time so old.

>>2124230
Why...?

>>2124182
Of course I am, he was beautiful.

The cause of most depressions is egoism. Once you get up and start living life thinking about other people and not yourself it's much harder for depression to overcome you.

>>2124237
Without a doubt my idol number one.

The embodiment of living fast, according to your own reality. And I'm not talking just his poems or his music, but in general.

>>2124230
if you allowed me back into your life i would dedicate myself to you.

bamp

Oh, this thread...

go out and party with my friends

workout

tell my self I am better of the bog wog in the clubs in twn

>>2126000
bog wog? what is this