/lit/ - Literature

>>21230778
Ulysses is forever.
IJ will live on through it's many forms of meme yet to come.
GR was always /lit/ specific and yes has probably died away.

>>21230778
The current trilogy is made out /tv/ favourites because of the board migration
>The Simarillion
>Blood Meridian
>Shadow of the torturer

>>21230778
I haven't read any of them. I'm convinced they're memes like Call of the Crocodile and are shilled just because of how terrible they are.
Am I right?

>>21230812
You’re right about infinite jest

>>21230812
>tranime

>>21230812
>I haven't read
we can tell

>>21230805
as if it weren't

>the Bible (KJV)
>the Bible (KJV)
>the Bible (KJV)

>>21230778
I guess the stereotype they represent might be dead. Can english major undergraduates confirm or deny?

>>21230859
Gravity's Rainbow is 4chan incarnate

>>21230778
I haven't read any of them.

>>21230778

I'm finally close to finishing the meme trilogy ten years after I started it. I started with Gravity's Rainbow back in 2012, and finally got around to the other two this year. My verdict:

>Gravity's Rainbow is the epitome of masturbatory boomer lit, filled with dull shock content, cringeworthy negrophilia and barely disguised socio-political messaging. 4/10

>Infinite Jest is very much of a product of the 90s, but it still holds up. Its themes have only gotten more relevant. The writing style is unique (I enjoyed his neologisms and fake slang), but the characters are largely two dimensional plot devices. 8/10

>Ulysses is a masterpiece, and the only book I'd recommend from the meme triology without reservation. It's the only book I've read that manages to do stream of consciousness right, while still telling a coherent story. The parallels with the Odyssey constantly lurk in the background for those who want to see it, while the humour is still really funny. The themes of alienation, social breakdown and rootlessness are still very relevant too.

It's no coincidence that only Infinite Jest and Ulysses still get discussed here on a fairly regular basis. Sorry Ruggles, but I hate you.

>>21231039
tommy be cry

>>21230812
You're correct, anime. They're just boring MFAcore by overeducated and underpaid fry cooks who try and delude others into reading them so they have people with whom they can "discuss the literature" (go on an unhinged rant injecting their own ideologies)

>>21231039
Pinecone is pre-boomer.

>>21230812
>tranime

>>21230818
>tranny obsessed mind

post2015 /lit/ doesn't really read literature.
:(

>>21231074
Troon

>>21231158
Wasted money on a useless degree

>>21230818
>>21231083
>Call of the Tranny

>>21231039
>ten years after I started it
were you reading half a page a day or something?

>>21230778
Ulysses is on a different level. I try to make it a rule now never to read fiction past 1960 if I can help it and be at least highly suspect of novels written in the 40s and 50s too and have not regretted it yet. The whole subplot about the wheelchair fucks alone in IJ is just an embarrassment

>>21230812
2 of those books are among the greatest achievements in literature, the other is a colossal waste of time. I will not say which is which

>>21232012
This. Meme trilogy exists solely that MFAtards may prop two shitty books on the back of Joyce, as if they are comparable in quality.

>>21232144
Gravity's rainbow is the waste of time

bump

Any kind of literature where the writer thinks it's important to name characters in a "funny" way is garbage tier.

>>21232747
>Hasn't read Dickens

>>21232012
A better rule is to never read fiction past WW1

>>21232818
There are a lot of good sci-fi books that came out between the 50s and 80s

>>21232818
I try but paradoxically some of the best works written about and set in pre-WWI Europe I find were actually written in the 1920s. They had a greater perspective on that era after a few years when they could see clearly what was lost and what was deliberately or subconsciously ignored by the attitudes of that time before the war. By contrast WWII was such a destructive maelstrom of culture that no one wanted to write shit in Europe after it and indeed why would they, it was clear that culture would shift to the opposing poles of America or the USSR for at least the next half century or so

>>21230778
>Because I haven't seen none of the three books discussed here in a while
People only discuss esoteric bullshit in this forsaken board now
A bunch of trash books

>>21232012
desu IJ would be a flawless novel if it weren't for the laughable spy-in-wheelchairs-or-drag drama and the embarrassing sections about the AA house's characters.

>>21233441
Or the pedestrian prose

>>21233441
>taking it seriously

>>21230778
The real /lit/ holy trinity is Moby Dick, Blood Meridian, and Ulysses.

>>21230812
Gravity’s Rainbow is essentially unreadable and I’ve read the majority of books on /lit/‘s top 100

>>21234418
PYNCHED

>>21232012
>One Hundred Years of Solitude was first published in 1967
I’d adjust your metric

>>21234419
>this aspie still posts the same pic

>>21234451
>this ntie still gets pynched

read IJ and GR. enjoyed both.

>>21230781
Fpbp

Stop posting anime on my board you fucking degenerate loser

>>21234421
I read it and it was a bit too 60s and a bit too gimmicky for my taste. Goodness knows it beats the Beats but give me a good EM Forster or Joseph Conrad novel to read instead any day of the week instead

>>21230778
Somebody post THAT pic

>>21230818
>>21231083
Anime website.

>>21232012
>>21233441
I just can't get into IJ. This very rarely happens to me since I can usually happily go through any classic lit of any length; yet here I can only read a page or two before groaning in boredom and anger at the nonsense I'm reading.

Help me try to get it.

GR is great. Stop being filtered by the first section of the book

bump

>>21232210
whys sexy vegeta gotta stare me down like that

>>21233441
>embarrassing sections about the AA house's characters
but these sections are why wallace wrote the book at all

>>21230805
>Shadow of the torturer

Why are there so many wolfefags on /tv/?

>>21230778

>>21236538
Develop mental stamina

>>21230812
Call of the Crocodile is a blast to read and the best meme book from this place

>>21230812
What a bad take.

Gardner threads are always surreal kek. Can never tell how many of the posts are just him IP hopping

>>21230805
Three of my favorite books anon. Respectable alternative top twenty, in my opinion.
>>21237959
A lot of people, like me, discovered him thanks to /lit/. After they finish, this might be the place they go to. Also seems to be a pretty obscure writer so I think this is one of the few places where people can discuss him.
>>21236538
I would try and go slowly anon, reading a few pages at a time. I think David Foster Wallace's prose can be misleading with it's casualness. A lot of times when I've run into issues with him it's because I tried to blast through his stuff. Same thing for me with Joyce. Hope you end up liking it anon. I think it's one of the greatest novels ever written.

>>21239905
Hi Gardner! I’m reading your new book!

>>21230854
can someone explain why the bible gets recommended so much? i'm reading through ti right now and i don't feel like i'm getting anything out of it. is it because i grew up going to church / sunday school occasionally? or is it cus i grew up in a society already influenced by all of the stuff from it so nothing i'm reading in it feels new to me? i think i just finished the part about isaac. but i don't really get what the literary / spiritual value is from reading it. the "strories" are very short and just feel like disjointed summaries. so much attention is paid to mundane information like how long someone lived, how many kids they had, their names, etc. etc. i just don't get it. I believe in God and Jesus for what it's worth. and I'm reading the KJV version. what am i missing?

>>21230812
Call of the Crocodile is based

>>21241367
I will never read your book

>>21236642
>he chewed

>>21231039
Would you recommend reading Homer's odyssey before Joyce's?

>>21242452
you dont need to. it would be helpful to have a map of Dublin handy while reading it though.

I've read all three and it's a joke to include IJ among Ulysses and GR.

>>21242799
It's a joke to include IJ and GR with Ulysses.

>>21234419
This is totally readable and also really not hard to understand what is happening at all. Don't tell me people on this board seriously can't into Pynchon. Ulysses is way harder to understand desu

>all these cunts shitting on gravitys rainbow
its an amazing book we are lucky to have pynchon fuck off FUCK OFF FUCK OFF

>>21242908
Chinchong sucks!