/lit/ - Literature

>>21225961
These coats are always so kino in others... But when I wear them, I look like an idiot.
I wish I could dress cool like these people...

>>21225973
You are not German and not of the time.
It's like the palestine scarf which just looks retarded on western lefties.
No one but a devout afghani could pull of the look from the men in pic related.
Simple as.

in short: dress like the western zoomer that you are.

>>21225961
Nazi chud
Drug addict

>>21225985
but I want to be cool like you guys...

>>21225985
>devout afghani
stfu nigger

>>21225961
Overhyped trite

>>21226020
what is their preferred ethnic description then instead? Enlighten me.

>>21225973
Time and place. Nothing good can exist now.

>>21226014
>Drug addict
?

>>21225961
Incelcore for midwits

He's been more important to me as a thinker and historical figure than a writer, if that makes any sense.

>>21226066
is mishima in the same boat?

He probably killed 20 men in the most gruesome combat scenarios imaginable to the human mind. And wrote about it. He bears eloquent witness to the horrors of war like few else. For in his stalwart Prussianism he not only fought in wars but lived and breathed it. Embodied it. Literature has few examples of paradigmatic soldier-poets who in an otherworldly Homeric nature seemed to exist in his natural element in warfare. He did not flinch from it, it was a controlled concept, something that he could steady his eyes on, understand.

>>21226154
who?

>>21226157
That's Jacobi, not Kant.

>>21225985
Capitalism doesn’t care about your stupid authenticity morals. It will make WW I Fashion cool and there will be an hazara x supreme line if need be.

>>21225973
I can tell your fat from this sentence alone. Pay attention to detail, when you say “others” you mean lean, chaired men

>muh war muh drugs
dreck

>>21225961
Read and spammed by recessed chin retards who would flinch if they ever fired a rifle

>>21226230
*chiseled, not chaired

>>21225961
Storm of Steel is the greatest war memoir of all time.

>>21226233
>men who have been sheltered and castrated by society long for a time where strength and virtue was present

Your criticism is pathetic

>>21226261
touch grass incel freak

>>21225961
You read the war memoirs of chuds going on about muh guns muh country. I read the sex diaries of old French whores. We are not the same.

>>21226217
go ahead. wear a turban to school tomorrow.

>>21226280
i unironically already do bro to be perfectly genuine

>>21226292
post proof

>>21226295
no

>>21226261
I don't know if the seething itt is satire or not.

>>21226295
ok, just wait a minute baby

>>21226295
Here’s me

>>21225961
Interesting writer, cringe fanbase

>>21226376
>t. witzigster deutscher

>>21226157
It would be a nice quote if it didn't mention Immanuel Kant.

>>21226573
Kant: "Act as if the maxim of your action were to become through your will a universal law of nature."

How is this not embodied by Junger?

>>21226611
My comment actually had very little to do with Junger.

>>21225961
Who?

>>21225961
Mythical solider figure. Kino role model.

>>21225961
>War is........LE GOOD!!

>>21228435
Is that all you have to say?

>>21228492
War is.... LE NECESSARY!!!

>>21226014
2/10 bait

>>21226066
>Incelcore
>Chad who fought in 2 world wars for his homeland

off yourself you miserable faggot

>>21226232
hurensohn

>>21228631
He’s cool but his fans are exclusively faggots. It’s quite sad really.

/lit/'s favourite heckin based military man

>>21226252

Can actually recommend his later books.

passable diarist, laughable thinker, pitiful novelist

>>21225961
The tranny seething in this thread is unreal. His fanbase may be a bit cringe and over the top at times but Junger still remains an amazing role model for today's male youth.

>>21229974
>/pol/tard can only formulate his thoughts in the language of pop idol fandom
kek

What are the best books of German history and German art? Preferably everything before the world wars.

>>21230044
Junger's interwar articles

He's known for Storm of Steel but should be known for Eumeswil.

>>21230016
He's right though, some faggot is seething hard and samefagging in this thread

>>21230318
careful not to overdose on that copium

>>21230318
>Nooooooo its not possible that multiple people have opinions that disagree with my own they must be the same person

>>21230318
its a tranny raid

>>21225961

>>21226157
thats not kant lmao

>>21225973
Because nice coats like that are fitting. Actually go to a tailor.

>>21225961
His diary book is amazing.
Didn't care about Storm of Steel

>>21226157
>Prussia been straight out crushed and abolished for 77 years straight
Retard

>>21232138
>became a superpower despite being in the most dangerous frontiers of europe
>influential on philosophy, ethics, and technology
>only stamped out..multiple times... because of a coalition of lesser military powers like great britain, france, america, and russia

Also, post nose, kike

>>21232138
>became a superpower despite being in the most dangerous frontiers of europe
>influential on philosophy, ethics, and technology
>achieved one of the highest literacy rates in the world and was far from backwards when compared to other european "great powers"
>Not only known for military academies, but also notorious for the education of sciences which saw people like Albert Einstein, Voltaire, Immanuel Kant, Montesquieu, Lessing, Schleiermacher, and many, many more
>only stamped out..twice... because of a coalition of lesser military powers like great britain, france, america, and russia

Now, post nose kike

>>21232215
>complains about jews
>but also notorious for the education of sciences which saw people like (((Albert Einstein)))

>>21232215
I'm not Jewish, just American.

>>21232227
Geniuses like Spinoza and Einstein get credit where credit is due

But these are rare cases, because most jews are just dysgenic and bastards as a result of desert tribe inbreeding

That explains your resentment


Now gtfo

>>21232215
>Totally stamped out by "lesser military powers"
If they were "lesser" they would never have been capable of "stamping it out" in the first place, stupid fucking Wehraboo.

>>21232238
>Le reddit spacing
Shut the fuck up.

>>21232244
The coalition of lesser powers made a rough parity in men compared to 1 country and that's Germany, and they all had geographical advantage. If you had common sense you might have figure that out. Now kill yourself

>>21232248
Slit your wrist first

>>21232215
The LEGACY of PRUSSIA is literally shrinking GERMANY such that BERLIN, instead of being at the CENTER of it, is now at the EASTERN BORDER.

Good job, retard. Should've not pissed off actual superpowers and abstained from shipping Lenin off to USSR.

> lesser military powers like great britain, france, america, and russia
Delusional. They won the wars, and now Germany is an immigration center for slavs and afrikans.

>>21232253
Why aren't Britain and Americas losses higher than Germany's or closer to Germany's number if they were so militarily inferior then, huh fuckwit? especially when facing off directly with the oh so superior German forces?

Shut up idiot.

>>21232253
Germany in WWII is by most measures an operationally excellent adversary, but it holds no candle to the then-superpowers of USA and USSR with absurd advantages in man power and other materiel resources. There's just no interpretation in which you can portray them as a superpower when they got humiliated so hard back-to-back by the same powers. Strong continental power, yes, but always subject to Americans and Russians: Americans just land to France and Russians in the end just call the Brits to ask where they want the tank races to be held.

>>21232215
>>21232253
The amount of cope here goes beyond the merely delusional, holy shit.

>>21232266
Not that anon, but manpower losses are kind of a red herring. Point of your manpower is to trade it for geopolitical goals, USSR zerg-rushed and conquered most of Europe with that. It's also why current "critique" of Russian invasion is kind of silly. They've traded men for land (and if you look at the overall demographics, they've increased their population to cover the military aged men losses in the front)

>>21232238
baste

>>21232260
>>21232272
>>21232274

I don't see what your point is?
You're mad that Germany lost to all the powers of Europe,
But i was never making an argument for how Germany could've won the war.
Rather, I was pointing out the fact that despite its disadvantages it still exceeded other countries in all the ways possible.

If geography is destiny, Prussia was doomed from the start.
And yet it gave the other sovereign nations a run for their money.

Keep barking like a dog though. Shitposting doesn't change the facts of history

>>21232277
Alright then, then why are the German military plans an almost complete, constant loss as soon as the Allies land in France? Seems to me that if they were SO superior then at least SOME of their plans 1944 onwards would have been successful instead of just a continuous series of collapse and retreat?

>>21232284
You cannot call such a fucking loser a superpower, that's all.
> You're mad that Germany lost to all the powers of Europe,
I'm not mad, I'm merely pointing out that Prussian control, and eventual legacy, was a disaster for Germany.
> If geography is destiny, Prussia was doomed from the start.
This is silly thinking. There is no such historical determinism, as in, there's probably a future where Germany doesn't get annihilated as bad as it did in WW2.

>>21232288
> then why are the German military plans an almost complete, constant loss as soon as the Allies land in France?

I specifically mentioned that German's had operational excellence here >>21232272 when you measure things like "retreating while causing massive enemy losses" and call of duty stats like fighter ace statistics. They didn't have tactical or strategical superiority, probably since 41?, but someone more educated on that can chime in.

If you want to read what a total failure at nearly all levels of military operations look like, read Toland's book on Japan. Just a bunch of idiots crashing their clown kart into USA time after time basically.

>>21232284
>Physical attractiveness matters in a war effort
Okay, you are genuinely retarded. That picture is talking about people who live in two relatively different climes. What is your fucking point? Aesthetic superiority means fuck-all.

>>21232294
If you don't believe in historical determinism then you can't blame Prussianism.

Storm of Steel is a great book

>>21232297
It's not aesthetic superiority it's a soldier's health you stupid moron, now kill yourself dog!!

>>21232294
>operational excellence
Literally who other than Wehraboos fucking care about this shit?

>>21232308
Credit where credit is due. Those retreats against soviets were excellent.

>>21232302
Still died in their millions lmfao. To the point where the healthy straight male white man ubermensch is now a MINORITY in that country.

Why didn't the superior vitality of the German soldier translate to victory? Huh dipshit?

>>21232311
That's pretty pathetic. They don't give out awards for best in show army in a WAR. You're just being stupid.

>>21232311
A retreat is still a retreat. No one fucking cares how orderly it ended up being. The German Army was known for orderliness, so fucking what? Orderly defeat is still defeat.

>>21232323
There's probably like two armies in the entire recorded history that could've pulled it off

There seem to be a lot of Jünger posts all over 4chan, not just on /lit/, in recent times. It got pretty strong when that Netflix version of Nothing New in the West dropped, so I suspect this has to do with people trying to push that retarded Jünger vs Remarque dichotomy?

>>21232442
I browse lit from time to time and it's not rare to see EJ posts.

>>21232450
I'm not saying they don't happen, I'm saying they happen more frequently recently, and even on boards that are not /lit/. I think I have seen them on /v/, /tg/ and even /a/.

Also, again, not that Jünger doesn't have a fanbase on /lit/, but these top 100 books images are completely random past the 50th entry. The 80s and 90s usually have vote counts in the single digits. I remember sneaking some personal favourites on there in 2014 or so by simply samefagging a bit.

>>21228633
le epic geramn war man and master intellecjual :^)

>>21228631
thats the exact type of literature a shut-in loser would read though.

its like nietsche. his ideology was all about strength and willtopower and all this alpha schlock but he was the lowest man a man could be

>>21233911
> Still seething because Nietzsche made both easily accessible and brilliant philosophy, completely annihilating old farts that were trapped in their language and metaphysics

Sad!

>>21233915
im not shitting on him, well kinda if you think me calling him a loser is shitting on him. but its just what he was

i think that in a way you need to understand weakness to know what strength really is. its only in absence of it can you really grasp it fully

>>21233933
Well kind of.

You have to have the opportunity to do real evil in order to be real good (abstain from the real evil). That makes sense to me.

>>21232314
>lack of good leadership
>Third Reich Germany did in 6 weeks at the cost of 27k men what others failed to do in 4 years at the cost of 2 million men in WW1

Also nobody is bringing up race here buddy

>>21225973
>Get fit
>Learn proper clothes measurements to fit you
>Accept that fashion is based on your times and that it's very hard to dress "out of time"
If you want to look good now you can still use stuff like pic related.

>>21226154
Mishima covers everything from Red Scare Bitches, Gay Theater Kids, actual weaboos, Fascists, and genuine fans of Japanese literature.

>>21226261
>strength and virtue was present
Strength in WWI? Ajax would have been blown up by an artillery shell fired from 10km away. Or shot in the head by a sniper hiding in the bushes.
Virtue? Both sides used poison gas on each other, tried to starve each other's civilians, etc.

>>21225961
i was going to read him, but then i thought: is this a good use of my time? i'm not getting any Junger

>>21232215
My grandma was literally born in Königsberg and even I find this post incredibly cringey.
Prussia got annihilated by its own arrogance. Retarded leadership thought it could take on the world TWICE and got smacked down for it.
Yah it's a shame that names like Kant, Humboldt, Fichte, etc. Are now tainted by the obsession with militarism and men in tights black uniforms, but it is what it is.

>>21234030
My grandpa lost his limbs in vietnam and I dont see anyone asking to pay those gooks back for a second invasion

>>21234030
You are retarded, and won't let anyone list the merits of a nation without being outweighed by ONE blunder

>>21234030
WW1/2 weren't initiated by Germany's lust for global conquest you dumb motherfucker. If you knew anything about history and didn't waste your time reading theory you'd know this.
You are retarded, and won't let anyone list the merits of a nation without being outweighed by ONE blunder

>>21234103
Did I say it was caused by a desire to rule the world? I said they thought they could take on the world. Learn the difference. Prussia Military careerists got high off their own farts and genuinely thought they could win two front wars TWICE

>>21234017
best post itt

>>21234132
Britain was willing to go to war with Germany, possibly causing the deaths of millions of people, for "British national security"
It REALLY did pay off in the end as predicted even if we sacrificed millions as means to the end. This is why they do this multiple times by invading half the world

And this was inconceivable in Prussia's part. You thought Prussia was being the unreasonable one.

>>21232442
Someone's trying to sell their book.

>>21225961
Does anyone have the compilation of letters between him and Heidegger? Have they even been translated? Can only find it in German

>>21225961

Anons, I'm disappointing. Too much answers and nobody speak about On the Marble Cliffs.
It's the greater book of Junger. Deeper than Storm of Steel and accurater than The worker (which is a strange mix of false ideas, intriguing theories and genius intuitions).
Jünger never stop to thinking on his world, it's great to see how he change during his life, but he remain the same guy.

And Der Waldgang (The Forest Passage) is good also.

>>21235442
No one here cares about Junger. Threads have been pointless ever since junger-anon got banned.

>>21225973
I wish I was white

>>21232138
>>21232236
Prussian legacy still lives on even in this country, dimwit. Americans copied the Prussian education system and we suck at it.

>>21230044
Try 'Heart of Europe' the book about the HRE

>inb4 >>>

>>21234132
No they didn't that's why the Schlieffen Plan even existed, a hypnotized scenario where Germany beats France and moves on to Russia.

>>21234017
Based

>>21236010
learn a new word

>>21236014
Redpilled