/lit/ - Literature

What's the best moorcock entry point?

>scifi B plot is just turning into First Contact from TNG but 10 times shittier
I'm not sure I'm going to make it

I read Jerusalem by Alan Moore a week ago. Great book to sink a few weeks into if you like magical realism, English history, kitchen sink social drama, higher dimensions, angels, and free will/determinism. It's populated by a host of delightful characters and changes up its style enough to be endlessly entertaining.

>>21198261
Usually the first word on the first page.

>>21198261
He bounces around in time, so there's really no best order as long as you make sure you finish the Hawkmoon books last. The best way I can think to keep the overarching story coherent would be
>Elric up to just before The Vanishing Tower
>1st Corum trilogy
>1st 2 Erekosë books
>1st Hawkmoon trilogy (quadrilogy? Can't remember)
>Finish Elric
>Second Corum trilogy
>Final Erekosë book
>Final 4 Hawkmoon books

Any good sci fi books you can think of related to programming?

>>21198395
Thanks friend

>>21198399
'related' is the key word, it's hard to feature programming explicitly in a story. These come to mind:

A Deepness in the Sky
Cryptonomicon
Nexus Trilogy
Three Parts Dead

>>21198433
Thanks I'll take a look at these. Yeah that's why I used it. A book with code snippets would be silly

>>21198526
Source?

>>21198526
>where do you jerk off?
>at the library

>>21198541
Too Like the Lightning - Ada Palmer

>>21197774
>Imagination requires knowledge and re-interpretation of life, otherwise you end up with clichés.
>How the process of interpretation and re-elaboration works, we don't know.
Le science works in le mysterious ways but I'm still supposed to take your 10 commandments of good writing seriously. This is quite literally your argument for how literature works.

is pic an influence on the Monster Hunter world?

>>21198812
I forgot the pic

>>21198812
I'm interested to know why you think that might be the case, as I'm not familiar with Monster Hunter.

Recommend me some high magic fantasy book/series where magic is actually common and it affects world in interesting way.

In the name of Bakker I will rule
The sandersois are my eternal enemy
Their writer has a mouth that drool
Forever sentenced a life of misery
No one reads brandy but a fool
Enjoying his books is a heresy
Bakkerchads are nothing but cool
Their writer upon a throne of majesty

>>21199024
Stormlight archive > aspect emperor

>>21199032
Aspect emperor is sublime
Stormwhine archive is a waste of time

>>21199037
Aspect emperor is boring in comparison

>>21199018
Garrett PI. The worldbuilding puts a lot of focus on the political situation, which all stems from wizard oligarchs and a century long war over resources needed for spells.

Aspect Emperor should have been 3 books, not 4. Cut Sorweel.

>>21199046
You will never understand the power of Bakker.

thoughts?

>>21199024
Soulless author

>>21199037
this guy looks unhinged

>>21199150
10/10 cover
6/10 book

First for the Dread Empire

Good morrow. Time for more passages I enjoyed:

>“Silicon isn’t an ideal information storage medium,” Bale said. “Not as good as carbon molecules. But in its crystalline form you can make complex structures, store as much data as you like. There are ways to copy the lattice structure, so you can reproduce; there can be divergent forms, mutations—evolution. Of course while we breathe out carbon dioxide such creatures would breathe out silicon dioxide—sand.”
>Silicon chemistry was not as favorable a substrate for life as carbon. The properties of silicon compounds did not allow for as much complexity of molecular structure as carbon; and silicon did not bond so conveniently into forms that, like carbon dioxide, could be carried in the air or dissolved in the sea. That was why silicon-based life tended not to emerge even in places where there was far more silicon lying around than carbon, such as the crust of the Earth. But in some places, by chance, it did arise, such as here on Baynix II, the Dirtball.
>There had been silicon-based life-forms on this silicon-rich world, native forms, long before humans arrived. And when humans came here, they chose to download their children into the silicon, rather than any carbon-chemistry medium: they had made them into these statues.

>“And there is more still. By reaching around the curves of time, the Transcendence is awakening to the past, too, awakening to the rich experience of every human who ever lived. This is an extension of the Commonwealth in time as well as space, to kinds of people who once existed, as well as those who exist now. In the end the universe will be like a jewel held in the palm of the hand, its every facet and glimmering refraction—yes, and every flaw—fully known and understood. This is the ultimate prize.
>“Why must the Transcendence aspire to this? Because it is essential if we are to survive. Alia, the more awake you become, the more control of your environment you acquire, and the more power over your destiny you acquire. We must escape from our long dreaming if we want to live!
>“And then there is our greater fate. Beyond the walls of time there are greater minds still, Alia. We call them monads. Our universe might not have been; there were other possibilities. Why our universe? Because of us —because of our potential to grow into a full apprehension of the cosmos, an expression of the objective cosmos in subjective awareness. So you see, Alia, we humans, through the Transcendence, will become the consciousness of the universe itself—and we will, we must, fulfill the great project of the monads.
>“And all of this is built on love!”
screeching Battler.wav

>‘The principle is simple,’ said the Ghost. ‘An electron’s quantum wave function describes the probability of finding it at any particular location. In its lowest energy state, the wave function is spherical. But in its next highest energy state the wave function has a dumb-bell shape. Now, if that dumb-bell could be stretched and pinched, could it be divided?…’
>The Ambassador described how a vat of liquid helium was bathed in laser light of a precise frequency, exciting electron wave functions into their dumb-bell configurations. Then, as the pressure within the helium was increased, the electron dumb-bells split and pairs of half-bubbles drifted apart.
>To Raoul it sounded like a typical Ghost experiment: extremes of low temperature, the fringe areas of physical law.
>‘Jack Raoul, you must understand that the quantum wave function is no mathematical abstraction, but a physical entity. We have split and trapped a wave function itself – perhaps the first time in the history of the universe this has occurred,’ the Ghost said immodestly.
>Raoul suppressed a sigh. ‘You guys never do anything simply, do you? So you split an electron’s wave function. So what?’
>‘The half-electrons, coming from the same source, are forever entangled. Put another way, if the bubbles are separated and the wave function collapsed, an electron can leap from one bubble to another…’
simple principle :-)
Thought I had more recents but guess not. I'll dig into my Radix bookmarks one day :D

>>21198257
Shadows of Self, Wax & Wayne #2/Mistborn #5 - Brandon Sanderson (2015)

The prologue begins as a Western, but the rest of the book is basically an early 20th century urban fantasy featuring a deputized vigilante and police officer duo hunting down threats to the city. That made the prologue somewhat out of the place, but it was required to explain the significance of an event in the first book and to provide extra impact for a later callback. The first chapter had me again thinking about what limits my enjoyment with Sanderson. When there's a scene obviously meant to be cool and dramatic, my usual reaction is simply, "huh". The scenes don't have enough emotional heft to make me feel much of anything most of the time, which is also rather subjective though. This is even more so the case whenever he attempts humor.

As I've read more Sanderson I've become aware that he often reuses his character archetypes and developmental arcs. I assume that's because their stories are so meaningful to him and worth telling again and again in different ways. Three examples are the reluctant suffering chosen one with family issues, the strong independent woman who wants to be feminine, and the sinner who has doubts about whether they deserve redemption. Another commonality is the surface level exploration of social issues, which are never pursued. They're more decorative flourishes than anything else.

This may be the most overtly religious book I've read from Sanderson. One of its major theme is a believer's personal relationship with the being they worship. The existence of evil and suffering is a primary concern, as is whether the plans of a fallible deity who was once human can be trusted. I don't think it'd inspire much confidence if a deity told you they're running the world like a sim game, but they don't quite know how to play, so they've made a lot of mistakes will make many more. An example is the doubt about whether an analogous lesser Eden was a mistake because humanity needs hardship to develop. There also allusions to Jesus, though I wonder what that's character's overall role in the Cosmere will be considering also their extreme differences. Lastly for religious matters the adversary this time around probably represents Lilith.

The ending was the best part. Its resolution is deeply spiritual, tragic, and for me, rather amusing. Woeful be the fate of those servants chosen by the divine, for their lot is to suffer. Sanderson does like his lead characters to suffer, not in a grimdark way, but in a way most holy so that they may eventually ascend. I assume that's how it's meant to be anyway.

I remain interested enough in the Cosmere to see where it all goes. There's a few references to the Cosmere in this book, but not anywhere as much as there is in the Stormlight Archive. I had thought I would be more interested in this era, but I'm not. It suffices though and sometimes that's enough.

Rating: 3/5

>>21199555
It's unfortunate that what I wrote about the first book of this era is so lacking. I wouldn't change the rating, but I should've waited until I could've wrote something better about it. That's just how circumstances are sometimes though. I ought to revise it someday, but I probably won't ever get around to it, or for that matters the other ones that need the same treatment.

Hyperion next thread, probably.

>>21199555
>>21199561
nobody cares, your reviews are fucking shit

>>21199555
Huh, all those religious themes went over my head when I read that book, I thought the third Sotrmlight Archive book was the most religious, what is blame, whether you should take the responsibility, etc.

Anyway, I believe you will find the epilogue of The Bands of Mourning very interesting due to your mention of a Jesus-like character. But the book itself was kinda mediocre, I can't recall anything but the final twist, and my memory of plots was always the strongest.

So I finally reached volume 5, chapter 351 of The Wandering Inn, and I'm wondering what purpose the three quaternary protagonists serve. They're nice and all, but I kinda want to get back to the secondary plotlines and skip the alternate history multiverse stuff.

Someone said this chapter's plotlines thread back into the tertiary auxiliary plotlines. Is that true, or can I skip ahead to chapter 415?

>>21199621
>anon makes effort to better thread
>other anon screeches

>>21199639
I mean it's explicitly about Wax coming to terms with being effectively Harmony's 'sword', an instrument of destruction, something he's upset he's not MORE upset by. The line between divinity and "powerful human" is admittedly kind of blurred in the Cosmere, but it still feels like the one that deals the most with it.

>>21199688
Now that you phrase it that way, Cosmere probably has as many Ascendents as Malazan does.

>>21199715
Well, Sanderson tends to keep it deliberately unsaid if any of the Shards or Adonalsium are "true" divinity, and there's also the whole God Beyond thing which, again, he's deliberately not saying is real or not. Generally a lot of stuff like afterlife and religious stuff he dances around the truth of. Regardless, he tends to make it a point that the Shards are basically just people driven by some power greater than them that they're at most steering in a vague direction. But given how many have been usurped already, hard to consider them real gods.

Thoughts on Guy Gavriel Kay?

>>21199639
There are various other religious themes, but if I went into in-depth discussion I'd need to spoiler and have multiple posts and I don't have the time at the moment.
I'll be reading the the next book around the 11th and the new book when it comes out the 22nd, unless it doesn't.

>>21199688
Yeah, it really is like that. It reminds me of the idea of being "a slave to Christ" and literal meanings of Muslim/Islam. It's too bad it isn't explored more in detail though. Maybe it will be in the next book.

>>21199735
I agree.
Please look forward to the reveal of The God Beyond in 30 years. :)

>>21199763
Oh, I guess the release date changed or I misremembered. Either way, when it comes out this month.

>>21199659
>So I finally reached volume 5, chapter 351 of The Wandering Inn, and I'm wondering what purpose the three quaternary protagonists serve. They're nice and all, but I kinda want to get back to the secondary plotlines and skip the alternate history multiverse stuff.
>Someone said this chapter's plotlines thread back into the tertiary auxiliary plotlines. Is that true, or can I skip ahead to chapter 415?

I've been reading the story for two years. Had dozens of in-depth conversations about the themes, plot and characters. Talked with anons interested in reading it, recommended how to do it.

NOT A SINGLE PERSON COUNTED CHAPTERS. NOT A ONE.
Why, anon? What's the point, it's unhealthy, derranged. Also, no way you are correct, because there's shouldn't even be 250+ chapters up to Volume 5.
Do you actually mean Volume 5? Or maybe Book 5? Ebooks are not the same as the website.

Anyway, I have no idea what the fuck are you talking about, anon. What multiverse stuff. What chapter 351, and chapter 415. What even are those. Or like, do you mean Book 5 and chapter 3.51? I am so confused that I can't help you.

I can only tell you that there aren't unimportant plotlines in TWI, at least not at the early point you are in. Everything is relevant to the bigger plot, but it comes together slowly. Don't skip anything. Or maybe do, if it's K chapter are you cant be bothered to read it at the moment. Those one are painful to people until V6.

Why does modern cover art for science fiction and fantasy need to be so awful?

>>21199845
Use a filter, retard.

Almost through this. It's a confusing slog. I won't continue reading the series if all the other books are as confusing as this.

Please tell me it gets better, frens.

>>21199929
The second book is the best book in all of malazan. You might want to try that at least before calling it quits.

>>21199929
For less than the total pages of the Malazan Book of the Fallen (not even including side books), you can read Book of the New Sun and The Wizard Knight, which you will enjoy much more.

>>21199940
I'll give Deadhouse Gates a shot. We'll see if I'm hooked by then.

>>21199972
I've read all the BotNS and all of Bakker's books and I enjoyed them very much. Maybe I'm too jaded by extremely high quality writing to enjoy Malazan or most other fantasy series.

>>21200004
Black Company has a better start than Malazan, and Erikson himself expressed great admiration for BC.

>>21198302
I bought it, but the intro text is full of commas and endless sentences. Turned me off

read cradle

>>21200004
Never trust someone who tells you "oh just read one more, youre almost to the best part"
If you were on book 8 he'd be telling you you just HAVE to read book 9, that's where it REALLY gets good.

>>21199929
Gardens of the Moon is easily the worst book in the series. He grew significantly as a writer and person in the decade or so between writing the first and second book. That said you don't need to read the series. It's my favorite but you have no obligation to read it if you don't want to.

>>21200267
>>>21199929
>Gardens of the Moon is easily the worst book in the series. He grew significantly as a writer and person in the decade or so between writing the first and second book

What are you talking about?
>Gardens of the Moon is the first novel in the Malazan Book of the Fallen epic fantasy series. It was written by Steven Erikson in 1991 and extensively revised over several years before first being published by Bantam Books[1] on April 1, 1999 in Great Britain and Canada.

The second book was released just a year after.

>>21200356
You answered your own question. The bulk of the writing was done in 1991.
>"I wrote the first draft of Gardens of the Moon in 1991"
It was actually 9 years in between writing books. 8 if you consider that writing of deadhouse was done in 1999. Which is why I said "a decade or so" in between writing each book. I didn't want to look up dates. But here we are. He made some adjustments over the course of a few years and it ended up on a shelf because it got rejected again. in the late 90s he made some small revisions and it got published. In 2000 the sequel came out. If your post is just semantics about revision then sure. You win. Good job.

>>21200415
>extensively revised over several years before first being published

>>21200452
Fun talk anon.

Scorio, where is your sequel?!

>>21200468
I'm actually kinda surprised, looking back, how much is sticking with me from that book, despite how "just kinda decent" I thought it was. Maybe sheer length did it because why the fuck was that book actually just two books in one.

>>21199830
might be some AI generated shitpost. these are the times we live in...

>>21199037
Bakker with decent covers never ever

>>21200540
Proof you should lean into your themes instead of hoping genericness will save you.
>My character will be a demon
>And it's going to be set in hell
>And the power system will fiery names for everything
>And he'll grow fucking sooty ash plants above a river of lava to cultivate

>>21200559
the least supreme Bakker cover is more sublime than the most supreme brandy cover

>>21200601
Moreso that I remember more specific story beats. Names and power system stuff less so (beyond Scorio everybody else's name is lost though I generally remember the characters themselves), whereas the 4th Arcane Ascension book made me realise how much I'd forgotten when it had been a few months since reading book 3. I've admittedly read a lot of books in the past several months, but I do find it interesting how many stick with me and how many don't, often irrespective of how much I liked them. Cradle, for example, I quite like, and I remember a lot of its characters, but I forget a lot of specific story beats, or just basically the entirety of books 4 and 9. Wonder if it's just a uniqueness factor.

>>21200603
rent free

>>21200623
I thought nightmare lady being a xenomorph was just my weird interpretation but then I read his other series and he describes distinctly Geigeresque architecture in the ancient sin caster fortress.

>>21198257
>>Archive
>>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
Warosu is dead. Is there a new archive?

>>21200827
It's not dead.
https://twitter.com/warosu_org
There are other sites that archive /lit/ as well.

>>21200179
>shonen
I tried.

I also read the Farseer Trilogy, and that was just barely veiled suffering porn.

Why do authors do this?

>>21200667
Was that a thing she did? I sort only recall her as "big deal what showed up, wrecked shop and knew Scorio in the past". Bastion is basically a really just kind of decent book that I'm really quite excited for a sequel to, because it seems like it WOULD be quite interesting once they get out of that fucking city.

>>21201136
you're thinking of a different character, nightmare lady is the localborn great soul who is tsundere for scorio

>>21201154
Oh, right. Yeah, to be honest, I actually did forget about her until you brought her up, which is odd considering she's so central to the first half. Again, weird how that book basically just becomes a second book midway through.

Sleepy of the Black Company is impressively well written as a Muslim woman, and that's coming from a Muslim. Glen Cook must have known a good few Muslims IRL to get that much nuance.

>>21201178
yes, the character you're thinking of smashes the first book into pieces and leaves the second half in its place

>>21201182
He also wrote a good bit with the Hindu pantheon.

>>21201191
I remember this image had a variant with Iron Prince where it just doesn't really reach a climax. God that was a mediocre book. Like, glacial pace, no real plot, no real stakes, just "guy getting stronger and then he fights a bully" while there's a cool space war they're just NOT really talking about enough.

>>21201203

>>21199018
Inda by Sherwood Smith

>>21201182
>Working-class white boomer writes better muslims than most woke authors
Cookchads keep winning

>>21199204
>10/10 cover

>>21199929
It gets more confusing, but better.

>>21198399
Little Brother by Cory Doctorow was fun as a programmer

>>21198261
I think Corum is the best and recommend starting with Knight of Swords. I think that trilogy really gives a great intro into his cosmology.
Then with Elric you get a much more fucked up unique take on the same thing. Start with Elric of Melnibone.

>literal God of Hate hijacks another god's projected dream
>the revealing of even a portion of his true self is so overwhelming the hero faints
>le quirky pancakes girls intrudes on the vision yet again and spooks the literal God of Hatred
nice job undercutting any threat this dude had, sanderson

>>21201182
Mfw Sleepy got less words about her death than Mogaba did for his ;_;

>>21199744
Finovar tapestry was enjoyable and actually good isekai

I'm reading words of radiance and I genuinely don't get the Sanderson hate. He's not the best writer there ever was and I can understand if his prose is not for you but the visceral hate some people have really goes over my head. I haven't read anything besides TWOK and the beginning of WOR, is Mistborn considerably worse?

Children of the Sky was so comfy, I want to revisit that place soon. Hopefully Vinge shits out another Zones of Thought novel soon-ish. Any other books show peaceful/comfy co-existence on an alien planet (bonus points if co-existing with an alien race) ?

Recommendations for decent scifi? In the last year or so I've read:
The Forever War
Starship Troopers
Lucifer's Hammer
Book of the New Sun
All Systems Red

And most recently, Armor by John Steakley. While it's a little derivative, it has put me in the mood for more grounded, gritty stories; not necessarily about war, though war normally goes hand in hand with those themes and tones I enjoy.

>>21202156
It's basically just "popular thing bad". He has his issues as a writer, but they're hardly damning. He's a competent writer who knows his audience quite well.

>>21202277
Personally I finished reading Mistborn 1-3 and then started reading Way of Kings and dropped it and never looked back

>>21202318
What part in the story did you drop it?

>>21202156
Me personally I save my visceral hate for the fans

>>21202339
Well thats understandable the big fans seem to be reddit incarnate.

>>21202329
right after the 2nd prologue

>>21202350
Damn that's early, what didn't you like about it?

>>21202355
I didn't like reading through two different prologues and then going to something completely different

>>21202363
That's fair. I can see how that would turn you off from reading it. Especially if you didn't know about the multiple prologues before reading.

>>21202156
I don't get the hate either. His stories are so bland and inoffensive.

>>21199555
>>21199621
I don’t usually reply but I always like the reviews anon.

>>21202209
Haven’t read it myself, but The Dispossessed by Guinn is supposed to be good and from what I’ve heard in my brother’s audiobook it doesn’t sound like it’s about war.

>>21199830
How do you recommend reading it?

>>21201631
In a similar vein, I would definitely have made that same mistakes in Jurassic Park, at (I like to think) an earlier point in my career.

>>21199018
Discworld

Magic's always fucking shit up, and seen more of a pita.

In October I started reading The Lord of the Rings for the first time as an adult. As a child I read the Hobbit and enjoyed it, attempted to read LoTR and did not enjoy it.

As an adult I can appreciate that Tolkien is trying to emulate the style of epic mythology but as a modern reader the way he writes is so off-putting because it reads more like a history text book that occasionally stops to inform you directly of how the characters are feeling instead of letting their dialogue and actions speak for themselves. I honestly think the story is good but the prose is outdated. If people think I'm a mouth breathing retard so be it, show don't tell is important for a reason.

>>21202480
I generally agree but I have to respect it for accomplishing its goals perfectly. He set out to emulate mythology and did it perfectly.

>>21202480
no it doesn't

>>21202480

Fellowship for me is always a fucking slog until the Barrow Downs. When I reread, I always start after Father Maggot's Farm.

>>21202491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZxMqPrJ1a0

>>21201182
Is The Black Company actually good? I tried reading it on my phone just to see if I’ll like it and it was horrible. That retarded chopped up writing style made it impossible for me to read

>>21202156
Im about to finish Rythm of War and it’s probably the worst book I have ever read. The first two in the series are genuinely amazing but Oathbringer and RoW are complete trash. Considering how people consider Stormlight Archives his best work I’ll never read anything else by Sanderson.

>>21202576
Can you explain why without spoiling everything?

>>21202569
I am currently reading it and I don't like how the author presents Croaker as this slacker-type character who always needs to be reminded of his duties
also I don't like how much in-detail he goes whenever the protagonist needs to vent about the current situation he is in but the author never goes into detail of Croaker's work, he just patches up most wounded with a thread and a needle from what I understood
no usage of herbal medicine or bandages, also no mention of war supplies running dry or anything like that
the story feels stale

>>21202393
Thank you, I appreciate the compliment.

>>21202491
Imagine skipping the comfiest part of the book. The part of the book that perfectly encapsulates why the hobbits go to mordor, and the sacrelige of the shire's sacking.

>>21200179
Why do you keep posting this picture specifically? Its poorly drawn, Yerin isn't black, and she's not a smiler,

>>21202569
It's decent enough

>>21202587
RoW has like 1200 pages and pretty much nothing happens. Even if I wanted to spoil something there wouldn’t be anything of significance. Characters are shitty, unlikable, annoying and for some reason he had to make the dumbest and most boring of them all (Navani) a main character. It’s just all around bad. I really hope he did this deliberately to make the next books amazing.

>>21202632
It's some kinda reverse reverse troll who posts this.

>>21202796
Sounds like someone got filtered by the girlboss-off

>>21202480
I like how it reads as chronicles especially silmarilion documenting grand epic of Noldors

>>21198302
it looks incredibly comfy, but it's only something I'd read during the winter months if I had broken my leg or was bedridden or something. just too long. I can't help but think this book reads like Robert Anton Wilson and/or Philip K Dick.. and I just.. need a little grounding right now. Not the opposite.

>>21198257
>forvalaka

>>21202209
Hammer's Slammers will do for the gritty war stories. For (slightly) more general sci fi, I would give John Lumpkin's Human Reach series a shot. They're also about a war, but more from a spook's perspective. Very engaging, but only 2 books.

>>21201182
Murgen and Sleepy as narrators was a mistake.

>>21198261
I just started with the mid-2000s run of all the Elric stories in the order they were published and I didn't feel it was a bad way to go about things. Stealer of Souls, the first volume in those editions, is a great highlight reel, you get a good intro to the character and world with the first few short stories and novel. The very first story and Stormbringer in particular are two of the absolute must reads in the saga.

Not really related but Elric's autism kinda makes him endearing sometimes desu
>that time where the ancient magic book he needs is so old it crumbles in his hands so he has a spergout meltdown and dumps his gf
>that time where he reaches Tanelorn but just leaves because he decides being in paradise is boring

>>21202786
ok, so where are you all reading this from

The Knight by Gene Wolfe, which is so recommended here, is an unreadable piece of crap. What a mess! Did I get trolled?
On the other hand, decided to give Lyonesse a chance, and I am really impressed. What a great story! Such captivating prose.

>>21198257
Babelchads, how are we enjoying this comfy read?

>>21202796
>I really hope he did this deliberately
He doesn't have that kind of self-awareness. Look at the person you replied to. 'Fans' like that will buy any morsel of shit he poops out and defend him, for free, in the wide open world.

Why did it take me a month to read 2/3 of the Deadhouse Gates? I'm not a retard, I swear. A 700-page book shoukd take max a week. I can barely understand what this is about, I hate DNFing and I still hope it gets better after a few pages.

>>21202209
Left Hand of Darkness
The End of Eternity
The Time Ships
Crashlander

Title: Succubus
Author: A.J. Markam
Rating: 7/10

This review appears a bit late as I finished yesterday (It's November, and as such NNN begind, no erotica for a month), but I'm glad it was the last book I read.

To start with, it's the same author as Ex Superheroes. I mentioned in the previous reviews that the author is quite good. Well-written and natural dialogues, interesting characters, decent writer all around. Alas, it was one of his earlier books. I'd say around 60%~ of the book is good, the rest is a bit baffling.

[Story]
Protagonist is some guy that needs a job, during the recruitment for a MMO VR game it is revealed he used to work as a test subject in a lab, so they offer him a decent job as a test subject for their new type of server (This set-up is extremely simplistic, and after finishing the book appears to be somewhat unnecessary, but more about that in Conclusion). So he is ordered to enter the game pod and given the class of a Warlock. Unsurpsingly, MC's early motivations are solely focused on acquiring a hot succubus minion. A straight-forward man. Then things get complicated, msotly because he can't leave the game. Oops.

[Characters]
The protagonist is likely the weakest from the trio main characters, that is him, Succubus Kylara and Imp Stig. Nothing much to say about him, typical nice guy, a bit dumb. But his interactions with the succubus is where the author shines, each conversations is funny and interesting, her teasing and real emotional depth refreshing compared to other female characters from self-pub erotica. Plus the author attempts character developement for both of them, basic developement, but a real one.

[Conclusion]
As I write this, I realize there isn't really much to say about the story beyond the interaction between the characters. What should I say? The erotica elements were good, not just mechanical porn, succubus is a flirty succubus that likes to tease and likes sex (although don't think there's much of actual sex in the story)

Interesting thing, I noticed that much canbe forgiven if the author writes a VR MMO setting. Everything is basic and tropey, but we know and EXPECT an mmo game to be like that, and in that we don't feel disappointed. Strange. I know I could read a story where the setting could be identical to the game, but if it wasn't VR I would judge it harshly. I guess this is why a lot of Litrpg VR books aren't judged for their world-building, it being bad is already expected, desired.

Anyway, why such a big score? 7/10? It sounds really basic, but I read it as an erotica book, and in that it delivered, even if the plot was kinda stupid. I don't think this needed to be VR MMO Litrpg either, as these elements played next to none role in the story, you could easily just write a normal fantasy book where a guy learns how to be a warlock and needs to deal with his rogue succubus. I guess writing Litrpg VR MMO is just easier.

Sorry for being a bit incoherent, my brain's fried.

LitRPG but instead of some failson virgin being an edgy chuuni trying to make a harem it's a gigastacy fujo who forces all the men in the game to fuck and marry other men.

Hate discord? Want to talk scifi/fantasy? Come to #/sffg/ on Rizon.

>>21203486
>LitRPG but instead of some failson virgin being an edgy chuuni trying to make a harem it's a gigastacy fujo who forces all the men in the game to fuck and marry other men.
Reading a reverse harem would be nice, I heard of only three so far, where two were weak and the third was a lesbian harem. The third is actually intersting, probably will put it on the list...after NNN.

>>21203593
>reverse harem
it's not a harem dumbass all the guys are fucking eachother not the mc

>>21202391
Your standard retard fanboy just can't tell the difference between criticism and fanboy circlejerk. Any and all criticism is "hate".

>>21203566
This has been tried several times before. The longest it has lasted is a few hours of no one being there. You didn't even provide a webchat link to make it easier for those who have no idea what IRC is.

>>21203186
I'm not that big of a Sanderson fan. Like I said I have only read one of his books and liked it enough to try a second but it wasn't the best thing I've ever read. I'm just curious about others people's opinions on it.

>>21202491
>slog until the Barrow Downs.
Jesus christ... scary to know motherfuckers like you are roaming the same earth as me.

>>21201767
Fionavar Tapestry was very good fantasy but it was very bad portal fantasy
The entire point of portal fantasy/isekai is that people from the "real world" get transported to an "unreal" world, and bring their values and experiences with them so that they can undergo character development by exposing the similarities and contrasts between their points-of-view and those of the fantasy realm into which they were transported. Fionavar Tapestry presents almost no such contrasts. You spend 5 pages in Vancouver or Ontario or wherever it was with these college graduates and then they're sucked into Fairy-land and they completely forget about their past existence, blending in seamlessly with the standard epic fantasy plot. There is no element from conventional "reality" that they bring with them that has any bearing whatsoever on the plot or the fantasy realm. If you excised the "real-world" scenes and memories entirely you would go from 770 pages to 760 pages and you'd lose absolutely nothing for it.

Indeed, the far more moving element is the isekai within the isekai; where King Arthur, Lancelot, and Guenevere are extracted from their legendary realm into the Ur-Fantasy realm of Fionavar, but that's just going from one Medieval Fantasy setting to another, since it clearly operates on the Thomas Malory "Morte d'Arthur" principle of completely Francified high-medieval chivalric nonsense rather than the original quasi-historical Celto-Roman legendry.

Is there a playlist of decent narrated short stories on youtube?

>>21202156
>>21202277
>>21202339
>>21202391
>>21202576
The people who complain about him are exclusively the brainrotted cult-like Bakkerfags (/r9k/ rejects) who reflexively try to be "based and redpilled" against anything that can be remotely perceived as "woke", and their entire knowledge of Sanderson's novels come from a few screenshot tidbits of trashy sections where a fag shows up. It's the same nonsense as how anytime somebody tries to talk about Star Wars the same asshole pops up posting the text of the "Fart Wedding" or whatever. They are absolutely consumed with hatred for something they never read and never will read simply because it's there and they can hate it, instead of actually reading anything they enjoy. They think that by spamming their obnoxious bitching over 4chan they can claim some "victory" against a boogeyman of "shills" that exists only in their heads.

reading is cringe and I'm over it.

>>21203807
I'm somebody who has read a decent chunk of his work and while I don't think he's incredible, I think he's generally pretty good. His worst book that I've read was probably Mistborn 3 just because was a dull slog of nothing happening. Rhythm of War is kind of mediocre too, because all the major characters are either not super interesting (Navani) or just retreading their character arcs (Kaladin and Adolin) or are Shallan, who continues to feel disconnected from the story as a whole despite ostensibly taking part in it. He's definitely got his constant issues (pacing and a sort of rigidity to his characters, namely), along with a tendency to only use a few character archetypes (which isn't necessarily bad or good it just makes his characters blur together), but he's a writer who understands the mechanisms of how to write very well, and that honestly gets him a lot of mileage.

>>21203831
I genuinely don't care about Brandon Sanderson. His writing doesn't offend me and it doesn't attract me, so I simply choose not to think about him and go on with my life. But I am willing to side with him out of contrarian spite against that obnoxious avatarfag who simps for Bakker and won't stop writing those faggy braindead love poems to an atheist Canuck lolbert.

>>21202480
LotR is 70 years old and even then it was deliberately written to harken to an older style. Anyone who is trying to read it today has to adapt to that.
As a child, getting to the end felt like an accomplishment in itself. I tried to do a reread a couple years later and dropped it at Bombadil's house. Around the same time I also tried to read the Silmarillion but I had to give up.
The themes, the setting, the feeling of loss for a mythical past, a lot of the prose are first-rate. But it isn't a page turner. How much of that is due to the style being objectively bad at keeping the reader's attention, and how much is due to the fact that we just aren't used to it? People will probably disagree on that.

I really enjoyed Dune. The recent film was a completely different interpretation to the one I got from the book.

>>21202480
I would say Tolkien’s prose does is a big part of why the work is considered such a classic. It may not be for everyone but for me it’s part of what makes his writing so magical.

>>21203781
>If you excised the "real-world" scenes and memories entirely you would go from 770 pages to 760 pages and you'd lose absolutely nothing for it.
>excising 0.01% of the book loses nothing
Big, if true.

>>21203166
Cover looks interesting, shill this to me would you?

>>21203807
>The people who complain about him are exclusively the brainrotted cult-like Bakkerfags (/r9k/ rejects) who reflexively try to be "based and redpilled" against anything that can be remotely perceived as "woke",
I just assumed he was a right wing Mormon and was receiving backlash from that. I really don't know much about him other than he is a Mormon so I could be wrong. Maybe the issue is his work is not breaking any new ground or making a statement. It's just accessible and inoffensive. So people make wild assumptions about it.

>>21204056
From what I've seen a big point of contention is his magic systems. Some people just like a more mysterious and wonder filled magic system whereas Sanderson seems to prefer hard rules and limits. I like both approaches equally personally.

What a good source of mythological creatures? I'm struggling to thing of stuff for my protags to fight against.

>>21204256
Read myths from across the world.
There are hundreds of creatures to draw from.

>>21204256
>What a good source of mythological creatures?
Have you considered...mythology itself, anon? Especially non-common, like Japan, Hindu or Arabian?

>>21204256
Greek Mythology is the obvious and conventional answer. Ancient Egyptian mythology is good too but in the current year most of it would be furfag bait. If you are looking for stuff that hasn't been done to death in popular culture look at celtic mythological creatures. India is a good source too.

I have started rereading it, bros RI is so good.

>>21203131
Its on b-ok

>>21204016
That's the exact point, the "portal fantasy" aspect of Fionavar Tapestry was, essentially, nothing. It's not like Three Hearts and Three Lions where Holger Carlsen is trying to explain away all the fantastical shit he's seeing like dragons and Morgan le Fey and the Wild Hunt with his engineering degree until the very end when he realizes he's the reincarnation of Ogier the Dane of Charlemagne's romances. It's not like A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court where Mark Twain smugly tries to "enlighten" the backwards dark age barbarians with the Industrial Revolution and democracy. It's not even Harry Potter where the kids behave like normal british kids once they pass through Platform 9 and 3/4 or whatever it was and just participate in bullshit magical boarding school. It's just 5 fantasy archetype characters who happened to be in the wrong book for a few pages before Kay started writing the book they were supposed to be in.

>>21204056
it's significant that the primary insult leveled against him is not that he's part of a brainwashed pedophilic cult that was invented as a racketeering scheme by a convicted con artist during a period with some of the most prolific material documentation proving his crimes; rather it's that they call him "Sandersoi"

Hey, OP, where you get this illustrations? I liked very much one with some destroyed buildings and men camping and guarding.

>>21204600
If you liked liked it you can download it friend.

>>21204623
Where? It's an old thread.

>>21199839
Digital art.

>>21202605
>I am currently reading it and I don't like how the author presents Croaker as this slacker-type character who always needs to be reminded of his duties
That's pretty much only in the first book. Basically, before he gets saddled with more and more responsibility.

>>21204623
Help me fren.

>>21204698
God damn, how can you not use google to look up art? Are you genuinely this retarded?

>>21204763
I look for but I can't find that illustration in particular. It's a partisan guy in a post-apocalyptic city in a rooftop near a bonfire.

>>21204763
He's specifically looking for the images that OP occasionally posts.

>>21204787
Use Saucenao.

>>21204790
Thanks for the tip, I will use it in the future, but my problem now is to find an specifically image from an old thread.

>>21204801
>but my problem now is to find an specifically image from an old thread
You'll find it faster if you don't post here.

>>21204867
OK. I got the message, sorry to disturbing you. Good bye.

>>21204787
>I look for but I can't find that illustration in particular. It's a partisan guy in a post-apocalyptic city in a rooftop near a bonfire.

>>21204870
Ignore newfags.

>>21204896
Thanks for the try, but it's none of that.

>>21204912
No, I just wanted to show you how easy it is to just look it up and spend a few minutes trying to search the image you're trying to look for.

>>21204918
I'm searching for hours and tried in duckduckgo, google images, pinterest, artstation.

>>21204763
>Are you genuinely this retarded?
Apparently he is, since he never once thought about using the archive to just look at the image. Which actually surprises me the most, but I just think it’s the negative effects of spoonfeeding retards

>>21204959
The archive only shows threads from the last 3 days. This one is from 2 or 3 months ago.

Nobody tell him, let him bask in outright stupidity.

>>21204980
If you're talking about warosu.org, it doesn't work.

There's archived.moe, but I strongly suggest blocking scripts and ads and generally locking the browser down before going there.

>>21205032
Thank you, I'm going to check it.

>>21205032
Why are you helping the dumbfucking retard?

>>21205032
Great, now you ruined it.

so do you like books? what are you currently reading?

>>21205046
No, and your poor attempt to save this thread from derailment from the idiot who can’t use a search engine to save his life is idiotic.

>>21205052
>your poor attempt to save this thread from derailment from the idiot who can’t use a search engine to save his life is idiotic.
This thread really did spiral out of control because of him. It would be sad, but this does happen too often.

>>21205046
>what are you currently reading
Just going to start this.

>>21203166
just finished part 1 of Fall
the ending sequence of Arm in the Sphinx's house was very dreamlike. the bottomless library, the battery room, the lightning abyss, the zoetrope projector and the vault, and especially Adam's escape and capture by the sparkmen. also sort of neat how he was entirely absent from Hod King
Hod King was fun with its dandyville intrigue/politics. I was impressed he had the balls to kill off Voleta, but then of course she wasn't dead. The black trail segments of Senlin, Tarrou, and Finn Goll's journey and battle with the chimney cat were fantastic

Fall, part 1 (Adam) so far... the nautilus is a black hole? the brick layer was an ayy?
Very much looking forward to the rest of the book and conclusion of the series.

Also bro I discovered that the author has a new series coming out next year, The Hexologists.

>>21205059
>but this does happen too often.
It really shouldn’t.

>>21205046
Xeelee: Redemption (and Resplendent); and the Dark Souls book.

>>21205134
>Xeelee
You still trying to force this general to read this book?

I was suggested to ask this here:

I'm trying to remember a kid's book I read as a child in the 80s/90s.
(I don't think the book was written during that time.)
It was illustrated, maybe 30 pages long.
It was about three kids playing in their lawn, two boys and a girl, when the youngest boy is kidnapped by a Rumplestiltskin-like character.
He is taken to a castle where kids are forced to stand in the corner, with lots of corners for every kid.
Some mentor (a cat I think) then takes the eldest boy to see various magic people for I think a tear and a seed.
One such person was an underground king where everyone was forced to crawl around.
The girl was tasked with keeping a fire lit, but also to not leave a drawn circle.
The evil dude tricks her at one point and rushes in to stamp out the fire, but she saves it by throwing herself on the fire.
Just then eldest boy returns and quickly goes through magic ritual before sister is burned up.
They win and get their brother back, obviously.
Does this sound familiar to anyone?
I think the pictures were similar in style to Polar Express.

Pic unrelated, just another relatively unknown kid's book I grew up with and loved.

Book 1 ending was pure fucking KINO holy fucking shit

>>21205290
2016 or 2019?

>>21205342
Try making this a thread so all of /lit/ can help you

>>21205368
I did, that's where it was suggested to come here.
>>>21203611

>>21205376
You weren’t suggested to come here, they politely told you to fuck off.

>>21205342
Sounds pretty satanic desu, try Reddit.

>>21205380
I think it was more wanting to insult you, but I'm trying any chance because it's been bothering me for a while.

>>21205376
I'd poke around /x/ until you find a book thread. Alternatively, just copy your thread OP over there. Probably have better luck.

>>21205390
/x/ would be no help. I know those anons.
Thanks for the suggestion, tho.

>>21205396
It's no worse than any other board or here, and I've seen anons ask for random childhood weird books they don't remember the title of in the past, to a degree of success. Hell, even search some keywords in the archives and you may have some luck.

Any book where the MC is a mastermind behind the scenes?
I fucking love this trope

>>21205409
I dont think the board is any worse. I know the anons because I frequent the board.
It's not a book ABOUT paganism or magic any more than a Grimm fairy tale.

>>21205078
>LitRPG audiobook
That just feels weird to me as a concept. No judgment against LitRPG itself, but as an audiobook I feel like I'd be weirded out. When it gets to the LitRPG stuff surely the narration must feel awkward as hell.

>>21202156
It goes to shit with oathbringer. Serious shit. I liked it up until then but dropped oathbringer about halfway through.

>>21202796
Navani is worse than Shallan? Wow

>>21205415
ummm The Count of Monte Cristo?

>>21198302
Best living author. No one has the mastery over storytelling he has an the man himself is just as interesting as the stories he tells. Can’t say that about very many people anymore.

I’m reading Stanislaw Lem’s essays on science fiction and I recommend everyone else does as well

>>21205516
Nah, I'll pass on that.

there are only like 93 good books

>>21202156
His alright. Overrated and overheated at the same time. I see why people like him. But the interludes become too obnoxious for pretty bland characters.

>>21203627
>> You didn't even provide a webchat link to make it easier for those who have no idea what IRC is.
> smart enough to read
> too dumb to Google

>>21205628
Are you really surprised by that? People here are incapable of using google to answer their basic bitch questions.

>>21205557
Enjoy your space opera marvel slop

>>21205660
You just described Science fiction in general.

What is the new good fantasy book? preferebly with some tsundere action or no romance if it comes to it.

>>21205690
Try asking google

>>21205694
i am banned there

>>21205690
Search it up yourself, don’t know why you expect others to do it for you.

>>21205690
Red sister

>>21205704
You're somehow banned from using a search engine that doesn't ban people from using it?

>>21205719
>Female protagonist
Is there some good monsters/fight scenes?

>Read chinese fantasy(xianxia, wuxia, even their take on western)
>Main character described as 'socialist educated' or 'red book carrying', which is basically the chinese version of saying ideal average joe.
>almost immediately goes native upon getting into a different world
>will not only kill people, but also kill every person related to the person they kill, even their livestock isn't safe
>will also casually commit atrocities that would make Nanking look like a joke

What's with the Chink author that makes their characters like that? I'm not one to judge, considering how I've read many novels of this type, but I'm curious. This trend is more common in Wuxia/Xianxia where 'pulling by the roots' was more of a standard trope, but I've seen it happen even in Chinese takes of Western fantasy, ie Wizards, Dragons, Knights, etc. How come I don't see any Western authors having their main protagonists extinguishing a person's nine generations—to the point that their genetic line ends with them, but I see plenty of Chinese authors casually writing the same?

>>21202480
i read them recently for the first time and had a similar impression. good characters are good, bad characters are bad, events are dictated in orderly sequence, all thoughts and feelings are laid out explicitly. just zero nuance or depth. the climax moments are fleeting and he glosses over every battle

also feels like half the text is dedicated to describing geography, but in vague, relative terminology so you're never quite sure of where you are or what's happening

>to his left and up and around and all about the glen opened into a shallow dell circled by a misty dale in the midst of a hollow vale wrapped by the shoulders of a rocky peak lined with stony ravines running down and joining the great river to the north but also the southwest

just say we're in scotland nigga

>>21205739
It's probably a cultural thing. China has historically had many famines/wars occur, so the people who were kind/generous tended to get taken advantage of and died in those circumstances.

So the people who survived were ruthless and focused on themselves + their immediate family and spread those teachings to their children. So you get casual murder upon slightest of mistakes and phrases like "kindness to your enemies is like enmity to yourself".

>>21205739
I'm not exaggerating, the average Chinese peasant (by which I mean educated urban petit-bourgeois serf, not actual rural farmers) has been trained for centuries, and far more intensively over the last 70 years, to be, for lack of a better word, evil in no uncertain terms. You are looking at the end-stage of a socialist utopia where a population of what are ostensibly human beings has had the humanity trained out of them by the state.

>>21205739
Stop reading garbage.

>>21205680
If you truly believe that then you need to stop watching and reading trash made for babies ASAP

>>21205739
It's either a cultural thing or just "shock value is what sells". Or it's just adhering to the traditional storytelling tropes, because Chinese storytelling puts a lot of stock into tradition, so you can't deviate TOO much with a xianxia story unless you're wanting to go wholecloth and do something else entirely.

>>21205809
you could say the same about the average westerner being conditioned for docility and impotence

>>21205078
name sounds cool
>litrpg
why

>>21205852
Just don’t read it. Is it that hard to do.

>>21205852
LitRPG names are either fairly descriptive of some 'thing' within the story or setting, or are just "cool-sounding name that maybe sort of resonates with the characters or some shit". I mean I guess that's true for a lot of sci-fi/fantasy books, but it seems more prominent with them. He Who Fights With Monsters isn't really about a guy worrying about becoming a monster in his pursuit of fighting evil, though that theme isn't lacking entirely, for example.

>>21199188
he is in the probability trance

>>21202209
Suneater series by Ruocchio. He takes BOTNS and mashes it up with Dune and it is pretty good.

>>21203996
yeah same, it is basically a soulless colorless version of the book.

I recently finished Grace of Kings, and I was really impressed by it. First time reading a fantasy novel in an Asian setting. The author did a good job. Going to read the next book in the series (Dandelion Dynasty).

>>21205905
> a fantasy novel in an Asian setting.
This is ripe for woke bullshit. Was there any of that in it?

>>21203166
I took a break halfway through Hod after blitzing it. I think Bancroft is a genius. Stoked to get back into the series and finish it out.

>>21205929
Nope, not at all.

>>21205929
>This is ripe for woke bullshit.
Do you have any sort of life other than lurking on /sffg/ and saying stupid shit like this?

>>21205929
>Twitter buzzword
>Doesn’t read the book, yet asserts it’s something it’s not
Do you even read books, bro?

>>21205929
faggot

>>21205898
colorless is what I had in mind except for a few scenes. I thought of the main city as vibrant and bright but instead it was a hell scape. I don't think Dune is a good book for a film adaption.

>>21205905
The next book is great.

>>21205948
>>21205955
>>21205961
why don't you answer his question

>>21206028
Not them, but most likely because he really doesn’t care? He already prejudged the book with no basis whatsoever.

>>21206028
No, he needs to go back to Twitter.

might annoy my cat Flingus later idk...

>>21206089
And this belong on /sffg/ how?

>>21206098

What do you like to see in progression fantasy? What do you hate?

>>21203807
not reading Bakker lmao

>>21206129
You can’t even read a post, so I doubt you can read a book.

>>21206115
I like to see the same thing I like to see in any book I read: Interesting or empathetic characters that drive a compelling narrative.
Many of the sort of progression fantasy subgenre types seem to hard focus on the progression aspect and it just... It kills it. Sometimes you can weave it into characterisation (which is why 90% of progression fantasy protagonists are determined men out to prove they're capable or attempting to acquire necessary skills to survive), though it rarely succeeds all too well. I generally hate seeing just a focus on "number go up" or its equivalent, rather I prefer progression to come from a more increased breadth of knowledge that works with expanding the scope of the world and the character's own understanding.

>>21206115
Why ask this question when you already know only a few like it and the majority either hates it or just don't care about it.

>>21206028
>why don't you answer his question
It'll be a waste of time since its clear as day that he doesn't care about the book if the first thing he says, without reading it, is woke.

>>21205628
That’s just an everyday occurrence, anon. You learn to ignore them and hopefully they will go away.

>>21205905
I liked this book since it reminded me a bit of A song of ice and fire in that there are several POVs. It was a good read as well since the secondary and tertiary characters are well-done in my opinion, the sequel book will not disappoint you.

>>21205360
All I know is that there’s a fag who whines and cries that no one else reads the book and seethes about it but doesn’t go to other forums to talk about the series he likes.

>>21203807
Good post.

>>21205735
Try reading the book, anon, it's why you're on /lit/.

>>21205342
I loved my father's dragon as a kid. Haven't thought about it in probably 20 years. Thanks for the memory hit.

>>21206292
Is it a good book to read?

>>21203804
No

>>21205905
>ken liu
why is everyone in the "book community" shilling that guy, though?

>>21206310
Maybe if you read his book, you would know?

>>21205905
>born china
i'll be skipping this

>>21206310
Try reading his books and you’ll get your answer.

>>21206302
It's a great book for elementary school children. It has been 20 years but if I had to guess, you wouldn't get much out of it as an adult unless you are reading along with a child.

>>21206345
>It's a great book for elementary school children.
That's okay, only ask because I wanted to buy a book for my niece.

>>21206349
I think that would be a really good gift for her. Assuming she is 12 or younger. Teens might be too advanced for it.

>>21206352
The book is fine, she'll like it.

what fiction book should i read next?
Children of Dune
Redwall book
Slaughter House 5
Hard times

>>21206364
Whatever one you like, not that hard to pick.

>>21206364
Not this shit again.

>>21206368
sry i disappointed you anon

>>21206364
>what fiction book should i read next?
No matter how many times I see it, I still find it incomprehensible that a grown adult can’t pick a book by themselves. It truly does boggle the mind.

>>21206375
i was j-j-just wondering what you guys thought would be the best... please don't book-shame me., :-:

>>21206364
hard times

>>21206389
ye man times are tough for me too no cappuccino

>>21206382
Why do you need our opinions? Is just picking a book that hard for you?

>>21206375
>I still find it incomprehensible that a grown adult can’t pick a book by themselves
It's because your an autistic idiot who doesn't know when somebody is asking your opinion without explicitly using the words 'What's your opinion on these books?'

/lit/ sure am good with wurds.

>>21206382
They's not book shaming you. Book shaming would require addressing your books. These assholes aren't offering any high opinion other than projecting the shame that they don't read. Or worse, read only litrpg.

Slaughterhouse 5 is on my to read list since finishing Cat's Cradle. Kurt is gonna give you a good time.

>>21206375
>I still find it incomprehensible that a grown adult can’t pick a book by themselves.
The thought of actually opening a book and reading it is too much for some peop.e

>>21206382
> please don't book-shame me., :-:
> :-:
God, I truly and utterly hope you’re just some underage faggot at this point. Or else this is just incredibly depressing.

>>21206393
that's it i'm leaving this board FOREVER because you guys are so terribly rude.

>>21206404
i'm26 btw OwO

>>21206405
Bye

>>21206427
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

>>21206401
I can’t even tell if you’re joking or not, fucking hell.

>>21206436
I wish it was a joke, but no, it is not a joke. Opening a book and just reading it and see if you like it is too complicated for people like >>21206364

>>21206438
>noooo you can't just ask the sci-fi/fantasy board about which book to read!!!!

>>21206438
Jesus Christ, makes you wonder why they’re on /lit/ to begin with.

>>21206443
>makes you wonder why they’re on /lit/ to begin with.
Not to discuss books that's for sure.

>>21206442
Right? Now let me seeth in silence, as god intended.

>>21206442
What a sad comeback.

>>21206443
see
>>21206394

>>21206443
>makes you wonder why they’re on /lit/ to begin with.
probably to post on those bookshelves/stack threads.

well i *points fingers together* actually i just finished *gets anxious* a big book.. i was kind of proud i did it but you guys.. will make fun of me..
I did finish The Count of Monte Cristo before.. so i do read book every now and then... sorry

>>21206458
This is just getting sad, get a life or something instead of wasting your life shitting up threads.

>>21206458
>Count of Monte Cristo
trash

>>21206493
I enjoyed it. To me it kind of read like a television show of the day, but something really decent like Breaking Bad.
It was a bit too long though.

>>21206494
It was a serial. Hence the length and episodic nature

>>21204052
victorian steampunk world with big ass tower in the middle. dude goes there on his honeymoon, loses wife, climbs tower to find her.
very unique fantasy world with some of the best prose of the Genre. flawed masterpiece and a very fun and comfy read.
>>21205081
yeah man its dope. the series changes a lot over the course of the books but still I think at its best it stays very intense and engaging and I do love the whole dream like aspect of it all. a bit like comfy Kafka sometimes.
Voletas "death" is one of the big issues I have with this series. at first I thought holy shit there is a date rape scene with one of the main chars dying? but meh. If I could complain about one thing with the series its the deus ex machina stuff sometimes.
fucking great news about the new series! didnt know that but Im hyped. Bancrofts style is just so comfy.
>>21205934
I devoured those books. its like they flow directly into your brain

>>21198257
>Philip K Dick has great ideas but bad writing!
Wrong. The people who say this couldn’t write their way out of a wet paper bag. He is really inspiring with his prose. It only takes me the first sentence or paragraph to get hooked.

>>21205739
>leaving the family of someone you killed alive
It’s almost like you want to be killed in revenge. It’s also a form of kindness, as you spare them a live fueled by hatred

>>21205739
>How come I don't see any Western authors having their main protagonists extinguishing a person's nine generations—to the point that their genetic line ends with them, but I see plenty of Chinese authors casually writing the same?
Because western authors and by extension westerns protagonists are white knighting cucks, when their own family are killed they will go extreme lengths to find one redeming quality that antagonist might have just to save him and not kill him. It's cuckery of the highest degree.

>Start reading martial world
>Lin Ming gets cucked in chapter one
Oh boy

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>>21206285
So 2016+.

>>21205347
enjoy the ride