/lit/ - Literature

based jannies

>>21063635
/pol/ has infected the whole site. I got called a double nigger troon on /ck/ of all places.

I wonder if there isn't like a deliberate effort to turn every online space into a battleground for this artifical culture war. There cannot truly be this many people seething at max volume about trannies and Jews 24/7.

>>21063635
>>21063645
I only chudpost when I see retard trannies like you. You're radicalizing my naive impressionable mind right now.

>pringles
the chuds went too far with this one

>>21063635
Troon, you'll never be accepted. Rant as much as you like, but you're just another banal bitch. You know it, we know it. Just leave.

>>21063635
Stupid /mu/poster

>>21063707
Do you ever stop thinking about transgenders or is it pretty much a constant thing for you?

>>21063797
It's how the thread opened and the post you chose to reply to. This screams
>troon
>bot
Troon seems more likely.

>>21063635
/lit/ was the only board I liked on this website but now it's getting pretty low IQ too. It's pretty sad.
>>21063687
Lmao based chud.

>>21063823
>Everyone who disagrees with me is secretly transgender
Seek professional help

I made a thread a while ago commenting on the quality of the board and it pretty much got overrun with tradcath larpers admitting they have an explicit intent of trying to drive out all literature discussion and maintain the board as a means of religious recruitment. Take that for what you will.

>>21063635
>WAAHHHHUH SAFESPACE
maybe you should go back to r*ddit if 4chan is too crazy for you, snowflake faggot?

seethe

For all the chud’s bitching about trannies, how man do you know in real life?

>>21063988
Yeah, many have a clear agenda here

>>21063988
I bet you think people that say chud here are leftists

>>21064022
I don't think it's fair to say it's all actually just tradcaths though. If I were to split the demographics its larping for their respective religion, or people insistent on using this board for philosophical debate, which really needs it's own board.
Although the idea of using 4chan as astroturfing for the republican vote is definitely a strong incentive for people.

If the board was split into literature/journalism and religion/philosophy, we would probably see a decent containment effect happen

>>21064057
I put tradcaths under the /pol/ sphere. Same with incels. Many right wing anons come here with a slant

>>21064057
>>21064065
Also to add, philosophy and religion need their own board yesterday. /lit/ is almost a debate board now. Very few fiction anons left when that way the lifeblood for the 2010’s

>>21063992
4chan is a safe space, that's what makes it so insufferable.

>>21063992
>maybe you should go back to r*ddit if 4chan is too crazy for you, snowflake faggot?
Endlessly jacking off about how much you hate trannies isn't "crazy," it's monotonous.

>>21064057
Journalism is not literature

>>21064100
>Hunter S. Thompson
>Hernan Cortes
>David Foster Wallace
>Columbus
>Freud

>>21064106
Don't forget Orwell and Hemingway.

>>21064057
I doubt splitting the board would help with ideological people doing gay activism here.

Anyways, racism can be funny and maybe calling everyone a tranny is kinda fun too, I don't think that's going away because shitposting is fun. It's the faggots who are sincre and intense about it that fag up the blue boards.

The only acceptable division would be literature/mithology and philosophy/humanities
Ideally that division already exists in /lit/ and /his/ but the rules are not enforced.
The bible has been in the top 10 books of the board for almost a decade. One can't not simply come here and expect its discussion to be moved to /his/.
Literature/mithology already includes criticism, poetry, journalism, classics and fiction in general.
The rest social sciences should go to /his/

>>21064113
Issue is a lot of those shitposters and activists don’t read

>>21064113
>gay activism
There is barely any, unless you count the likes of Burroughs
>racism can be funny
It can be, just not people who voice that sentiment themself
>calling everyone a tranny is kinda fun too
It's repetitive and recited by the same dipshits who think saying "kek" or "mogged" was ever cool

>>21064129
Yeah I think that's evident whenever someone brings up Marx and you get these 70 IQ Fox News boomer type of takes who think Communism is when billionaires tell little kids about neopronouns.

>>21064057
>>21064074
>what is /his/

>>21064161
This should be enforced

>>21064161
Well then we have two possible answers
>The mods of /lit/ are windowlicking dumbshit fuckwit retards who suck at their job
>The mods of /lit/ are idelogical schizoid brainwormed nutjobs who think the board needs their help

>>21064161
>what is /his/
The worst. Here the philosophy meta evolves. Who the fuck is Brandom?

>>21063635
>>WHAT ARE SOME BOOKS TO BE NAZI
This is actually a perfectly valid post on a literature board.

>mods are trannies shitting up the board with podcast politics and twitter level of discussion
>mods are uneducated tradcath larpers obsessed with dabbing on trannies and bunkerchan
You have to get your shit together

>>21064184
or
>we have any regular jannies at all

>>21064014
not much irl but quite a few online. usually friends of friends who don't get along with me very well. I've even seen pics of them. its really as bad as you might think. they're everywhere. usually they're confused late millenials (born 90-95). I've also known a lot of real life queers in my life, like several dozen. this is not even an anomaly they're like everywhere. pan, bi, lesbian, standard issue gay men

>>21064214
>mods actually do not give a shit but sometimes delete some random threads to make it seem like they're doing something

>>21064225
You know dozens of fags and trannies bc u are one yourself

>>21063635
for the record I got banned the other day for an otherwise legit question on /ck/ about why blacks like to over salt their dishes. there was no malice behind the post, because I do act touch grass and interact with American blacks a lot irl who help my situation out and sometimes give me dishes they've cooked. I wasn't even trying to be rude but the jannies there put me in I think a 4 day timeout for simply parsing the question. never said the n word in my post, just asking for literal, empirical reasons as to why. it was flagged for "trolling" and I got put in virtual jail over it.

>>21064240
nah not even, these are mostly acquaintances at best and I'm strickly into women. classic case of "you know people who are x therefore you are x" sort of related to how people say "you don't like spiders therefore you want to have sex with one" don't bullshit me, pal.

>>21064255
Everyone except Whole Foods shopping kinds of white people over-salt their food. Ever go to a restaurant? Restaurant soup is like drinking fucking water from the Dead Sea.

I tried posting some frogs on /mu/ and /tv/ but i'm shadowbanned there.
What are the chances of the "stupid frogposter" poster being a mod?

>>21064264
jesus christ fuck off retard, asking in this thread should answer why you're "shadowbanned"

>>21064277
Why

Frogposters may be stupid but at least they post frogs.

>>21063635
Why do you keep shitting up /lit/ with this?

>>21064353
Why do you keep shitting up /lit/ with /pol/?

>>21063635

>mfw exactly ten years ago the situation was 100% reversed
>mfw i and others were making threads about how the mods were so leftist slanted that they banned even mild jokes in random threads
>mfw the shoe is now on the other foot
>mfw back then it was right wingers requesting free speech and less overbearing moderation
>mfw today it's left wingers requesting less free speech and more overbearing moderation because they never get banned/persecuted for their views, they just want others to be

>>21063635
>t. pedo lefty

>>21064378
This never happened. Ten years ago politics weren't controversial at all

>>21064367
Obsessed

>>21064378
I'm a lefty, sorta and I don't mind right wing views so long as they're not retarded. Censoring retards is just gatekeeping which is good.

>>21064408
Yeah you’re obsessed with trannies

The issue with politics now is that is ALL some anons post about and shoehorn into every thread

>>21064378
it's not about your views, it's about the board being on topic
moderation is good and necessary or else every board will become /b/+/pol/

>>21064445
This.

>>21064263
I wouldn't go as far as my family being Whole Foods level rich, they're more of the Meijer/Giant Eagle (Pittsburgh grocery chain) level shoppers

"books for x" threads should be deleted on sight and its ops given a "lurk moar" temp ban, or there should be a /rec/ general for genuinely curious people
but i honestly don't think it's possible to have a decent /lit/ in 2022, literature requires a certain open mindedness that is not found on here anymore among the 'jaks and "gigachads"
people only come on here to bait and be baited

>>21064474
This. Get rid of books for, pol and incel threads and lit is useable once again

>>21064474
This is true.

>>21064474
Books for this feel don't make a large percentage of shit threads
>>21050138
>>21061775
>>21063708
>>21063776
>>21063840
>>21064220

>>21064400
It has nothing to do with whether I agree or disagree with the views being screeched all over the board. If every other thread was about bananas "I LIKE BANANAS" "BANANAS GOOD, BOOKS FOR THIS FEEL?" "BOOK ON WHY BANANA-HATERS ARE MANLET PEDOS" "BOOK TO HELP HAVE SEX WITH BANANA???" it would still turn the board into a shithole regardless of whether you like bananas.

>>21063635
Since most users are teenage neo-nazis or tradlarpers there is very very very little to discuss. Everything posted is checked by this clump of most-active users against a few dogmatic principles to determine whether it is based or cringe, and various canned insults are then returned, in a chinese room sort of fashion where one cannot say for certain if there is any underlying intelligence. Something like this happens on any forum and has always happened, but what sets the last half decade or so apart is how staunchly ideological the concerns are. Even though the users are anonymous, what they have made of that anonymity is rather shallow. What makes them anonymous isn't the lack of persistent identity; it's that the post could have come from any one of them because there is so little differentiation. They do not try to read or understand or opine on a text, but pallidly scrape it for bits and pieces they can use to signal their bona fides to other posters, who are doing the same thing. Literary otaku have been replaced by political otaku, whose prime interest is to collect and show off their inventory of beliefs.

>>21064512
Ok pedo

>>21064542
I guess the proper response would be to call you transgender or something

>>21064524
>trying so hard to sound smart yet still sounding like a literal retard

>>21064542
>>21064552
two great examples of why /lit/ sucks

>>21064560
Seething

>>21064563
pedo tranny
leftist
chud
coping
rent free
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>>21064552
I suppose I must have hit the nail on the head for a response of this caliber

>>21064565
sneed dilate goyslop globohomo

>>21064612
okay, now that we've delivered all the canned political insults, do we just start from the beginning again or what?

>>21064615
Fuck off homo you don't belong on this board stick to Discord

honestly im just kinda bored

>>21063988
>Protestant false flag operations still going strong
This is kind of funny because if the trad larpers knew anything they'd know Catholics can't recruit that way so what they're doing is sending people who Catholicism would probably never touch directly into vincible ignorance. It's kind of reminiscent of America's love for a Zionist Israel because their foreign policy is based on a weird cult interpretation of some end times revelation a drunk guy had at a tent revival once. The amount of genuinely retarded shit American anons can believe about nonWASP American and nonAmerican cultures is uncanny.

>>21063635
>TRANSGENDERS TRANSGENDERS TRANSGENDERS
>THE JEW WORLD ORDER IS BLOWING UP WESTERN CIVILIZATION
>KILL WOMEN
>EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A PEDO
>LOL JRODAN PETERSON LOBSTER LOL ROFL
>I LIKE PRINGLES
>AAAA TRANSGENDERS AAAAAARRRHGHAKDS
>I HATE BLACK AUTHORS THEY MAKE ME MAD AND SAD
>WHAT ARE SOME BOOKS TO BE NAZI
>HOW DO I PROVE THAT ALL LIBERAL ARE COMMUNIST PEDOPHILE SOCIALIST

>>21064552
Based

Are we sure pringles aren't a book? They taste the same.

It's somewhat acknowledged publicly now that people get paid to shit up boards on 4chan in the hopes of devaluating the site in the hopes of reducing the price tag on inevitably buying it out.

Back when cp was a big issue on 4chan, it later came out that it was special interest groups trying to make the site seem worst than it is so it could be further vilified in news media.

Another good example of this is how clearly off the mark Fox News was with 4chan in the 00s, so now it's viewerbase are encourage to adopt the lingo and shitpost, so it makes Fox seem like it's no longer the village idiot of broadcasting/web journalism

>>21064705
>It's somewhat acknowledged publicly now that people get paid to shit up boards on 4chan in the hopes of devaluating the site in the hopes of reducing the price tag on inevitably buying it out.
Holy meds

>>21064707
>Taking meds
>Shitting up the board for free
2020 called and wants to sell you an nft monkey grandpa

>>21064707
I'm not sure how this is a schizo take. It's the complete norm for corporate entities online to manufacture issues in a community especially through perpetuating a vicious atmosphere through it's social platforms, and it usually causes a moderation team totally lacking in experience to try and make a decision on how to handle it.

More often than not these teams fail, and the corporate entity conveniently walks onto their doorstep and offers what is simply, a faustian bargain. This already happened with Moot and this very site, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you're a newfag or one of these paid goons.

>>21064688
To be fair, the same can be said in reverse

>>21064742
A good example of what I posted here
>>21064744
>>21064705
virtually none of the political adages in that image have actually been discussed here, and most of the posts have been apolitical if not unsatisfied with tangential rhetoric of all kinds.

>>21064742
>2+2=5
kek

>>21064465
>>21064263
>be white
>find salt too spicy

>>21064476
The Incel epidemic won't end until every man is guaranteed a wife, and I don't see that happening any time soon

>>21064769
You jest but I love spicy food and not so much salt.

White people were cursed by the temperance movement that thought spicy food was Satanic and everyone should eat the blandest shit possible so they can suffer more and be holy. Hair shirt kinda bullshit.

So all the white people are learning to cook from their grandma's making flavorless mayonnaise sandwiches with the crusts cut off. They never stood a chance.

>>21064769
That's not what I mean, I enjoy spices just fine. Dumping ten tons of MSG on food isn't adding flavor its just a waste of good food

>>21064777
The incel epidemic here can be ended by making a No Pussy General (NPG) where every incel thread is moved.

>>21064777
The incel epidemic can be ended by boys manning up and not being afraid of rejection because of fragile egos. If you want to date, you’ll have to face rejection eventually. You’ll live

>>21064826
The incel pandemic will unironically only end with blood. Just like the anti-white pandemic, the left-wing pandemic, the politics pandemic, the tranny pandemic, every pandemic. We're heading towards that with speed and only retards can't see the obvious.

>>21064755
Like a sobriety test?

>>21064642
You are a leftist transgender and are very angry.

>>21064705
>Back when cp was a big issue on 4chan, it later came out that it was special interest groups trying to make the site seem worst than it is so it could be further vilified in news media.
Source?

>>21064826
Fuck off commie. As long as a 10/10 tradcow with giga-milkers doesn't land smack in my lap courtesy of the government I'm going to keep incelposting. Seethe

>>21064742
The guy on the left should have a MAGA hat and a shirt saying something along the lines of "Sorry, did my FREE SPEECH offend you?"

>>21064832
Nah probably they'll come up with an OLD app that works for boring/ uggo dudes and hooks them up with fat busted chicks on their level.

Not that a pogrom of incels wouldn't be based as fuck I'd definately join the death squads if that happened.

>The incel pandemic will unironically only end with blood. Just like the anti-white pandemic, the left-wing pandemic, the politics pandemic, the tranny pandemic, every pandemic. We're heading towards that with speed and only retards can't see the obvious.

>>21064149
You clearly haven't spoken to many anti-marxists here or you are genuinely retarded to get that away from their posts. Now shut up and wait for the revolution to happen or something.

>>21064787
Giving a shit about spice is decadent in itself. Europeans conquered the world for spice when they should've done it either way and just burned the spice just to flex on the turks

>>21064874
>t. 70 IQ Fox News boomer type who thinks Communism is when billionaires tell little kids about neopronouns

>>21064857
Obsessed

>>21064874
>Now shut up and wait for the revolution to happen or something.

Inshallah, comrade I am STILL waiting for Obummer to push the button that makes the Obamiltia take to the streets and impliment Full Islamic Communism. The man on AM radio said it would happen any day now.

>>21064705
This is beyond schizoposting. You actually believe in the shit you sell.

>>21064883
I think Europeans coped by pickling everything, which is kind of the same effect as spices you buy from heathen Turks or whatever.

>>21064889
With what?

>>21064892
Communism was born as controlled opposition.
Notvwirking is a feature, notva bug.
Low iq troons cant understand.

>>21064892
Looks like this rural retard had a stroke while replying to you. >>21064903

>>21064900
Maga
Obviously

>>21064909
communism is created by jew to destroy the good races

>>21064892
No, you're supposed to wait for the non-existing proletariat to do a little uprising against the bourgies who intentionally cum in your cheerios every day. You're supposed to wait and not show any consciousness because that's not very wholesome historical materialism. Then the peepul can finally control the means of production and everything will be totally different and the state will go away and there will definitely be no more conflict because everyone's a mindless prole now.

Also, stop trying to be funny.

>>21063635
>>TRANSGENDERS TRANSGENDERS TRANSGENDERS
>>THE JEW WORLD ORDER IS BLOWING UP WESTERN CIVILIZATION
>>KILL WOMEN
>>EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A PEDO
>>LOL JRODAN PETERSON LOBSTER LOL ROFL
>>I LIKE PRINGLES
>>AAAA TRANSGENDERS AAAAAARRRHGHAKDS
>>I HATE BLACK AUTHORS THEY MAKE ME MAD AND SAD
>>WHAT ARE SOME BOOKS TO BE NAZI
>>HOW DO I PROVE THAT ALL LIBERAL ARE COMMUNIST PEDOPHILE SOCIALIST
all me

>>21064913
Nah.

>>21063635
https://discord.gg/DCypqjvK

>>21064916
The weird thing is you're clearly familiar with some elements of Marxism (e.g. the supposed withering away of the state under socialism) but then you also apparently think workers don't exist or something.

>>21064899
Pickling is more about preservation. But that's not the point, they shouldn't have invaded because of spices. They should have invaded for the sake of war and domination, in the name of ideology.
Also, the Turks embargoed europe with ludicrously high prices. They should've burned the spice just to make them cry

>>21064909
Not a stroke.
Im being chased by nigros.
Hard to fight and post at rhe same time.

>>21064922
>you get banned for saying nigger, troon or even mentioning george floyd
May as well be reddit

>>21064937
If you have a compulsive need to say nigger and troon you might be the guy with the problem, chief.

>>21064919
You are a jewish pedophillic black trans liberal communist socialist lobster author? That likes pringles?

>>21064931
There is no monolithic proletarian class and the state has always been and will never go away. Historical materialism is willfull ignorance on behalf of marxists in order for them to avoid taking the final logical step of their theory into biological determinism. All because Marx was to retarded to understand Darwin.
Also, social relations precede material conditions.

>>21063851
It's like that everywhere, people get more stupid by the day. I just recently realized how stupid Lex Friedman is. It's getting hard to get any content that's not retarded.

>>21064940
no no anon, the double-meme-arrow means that i say all of those things. when you dereference the first arrow there is still another arrow.

>>21064939
What are you doing here then? This is the troonnigger namecalling central

>>21064939
Ok, but he shouldn't be banned.

>>21064949
I'm something of a retard myself but Lex is insufferable. It's like he's on sleeping pills all the time.

>>21064947
>There is no monolithic proletarian class
Duh, even Marx didn't assert this.

>the state has always been and will never go away.
This is stupid, the state didn't develop until around the development of agriculture. Look at how Aboriginal Australians lived before the arrival of European colonists.

Like I said, you clearly have some actual familiarity with Marxist theory, but then you keep delivering these peculiar non sequiturs. If you're trolling, well done, I guess.

>>21064951
Summer's over, kid. Back to school.

>>21064957
The content is shit, the guests are shit. I swear everyone is becoming retarded. We're in a bubble of retardedness.

>>21064959
Are you a low quality troll or something? You don't sound very bright

>>21064953
Because people should be obligated to babysit a crying baby? If you can't keep yourself from saying nigger and troon every 5 seconds, you aren't bringing any worthwhile discussion.

>>21064969
nigger troon

>>21064969
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK JANNY

>>21064958
>Duh, even Marx didn't assert this.
let me rephrase this. there is no group in the world that fulfills these qualifications:
1. is the overwhelming majority
2. whom society depends on
3. is in dire need
4. has nothing to lose in a revolution
there is no proletariat as Marx understood it today.
>the state didn't develop until around the development of agriculture
this is stupid enlightenment drivel, the state never spontaneously poofed into existence because some guy started to harvest crops. It exists in every human community and is the foundation of any society. We live in an uninterrupted state of nature which is that social relationship between master and servant. All societies have a hierarchy by simply not being nihilists. Someone always represents someone else and is influenced by an ideology that is set by a handful of people.

>>21064916
Thats what I've been saying, this kind of shit talking about Marxism is much better cause you're at least aware of the parts of the ideology that are kinda dumb. It's the the 'Marxism is when the government turns the frogs gay' shit that kills me.

>>21063635
https://discord.gg/DCypqjvK

I like shitposting as a hard-core leftist and a hard-core right winger. I don't care about politics in the slightest, it's just very effective at getting (You)s on several different boards

>>21065000
Dilate, chud

>>21065000
can you pretend to be a girl and post your feet once, that'd also get you some (You)s and would be pretty funny haha like epic trolling

>>21065000
The fake lefties are so easy to spot.

>>21064289
kek

>>21064994
Why should anti-marxists give a fuck? It's not like you retards even bother to be charitable to fascism or something. Marxism can just as easily be described as an ideology of people who hate traditional social bonds because they see them as oppressive and want to destroy them out of power-insecurity, paterphobia, or because you want to fuck shadow the hedgehog for all I care.

>>21064524
An observant post.

>>21065008
You say that but you must remember that there are people out there who unironically use the word "chud"

>>21065008
if they are righties larping as lefties then yes, if the larper comes from a neutral standpoint then not necessarily

>>21064565
unironic seething moment.
>everybody has to take me seriously!!!

>>21065016
Really?
It was probably written 19 year old afroamerican girl raised by twitter and the youtube algorithm

>>21065034
sex with that

>>21065022
how can you possibly tell?

>>21065022
I still haven't be able to decipher if people say rightist ironically or not. It's rather new on 4chan

>>21064993
I forgot to add:
you could say that so long as there has been a family, there has been a state.

>>21065021
>>21065022
They're all trolls. Lefties don't have the balls to be on here.

>>21065012
>ideology of people who hate traditional social bonds because they see them as oppressive

Missed the mark there. That's definately more like Anacharism and they do tend to think like that. Marxist-Leninism is all about family units and solidarity within organizations. It's the anarchists that come up with ideas like having your neighbors raise your kids on a rotational basis.

As for Facism I think it died when they strung old boy from that lamppost. It did pretty much the exact opposite of what it set out to do idk why people defend it still, Hitler did nothing but get millions of Germans killed.

>>21065034
Yeah now I want to fugg that Afroamerican girl. I will read Yeats to her while we have sex.

>>21065036
I cringe everytime the argie animeposter from /int/ posts that

>>21063635
>HATE BLACK AUTHORS THEY MAKE ME MAD AND SAD
I don't hate them. They just haven't written any good books.

They're treated like kids whose parents hang their bad drawings on the fridge, but now the fridge is the western canon

>>21065063
>They just haven't written any good books
Chud moment.

>>21065063
Pessoa is good though

>>21065037
I just assume based on observations, righties can't convincingly larp as lefties mainly because their seething comes through and their knowledge of how leftists act is based on some meme twitter screenshots that likely were trolls in the first place, if someone doesn't have these strong prejudices and maybe even interacts with leftists themselves then they would be able to embody the role much better

>>21065049
>idk why people defend it still
hitler dabbed on jews, commies and weimar trannies

>>21064524
>What makes them anonymous isn't the lack of persistent identity; it's that the post could have come from any one of them because there is so little differentiation
Some things are so obvious that there's bound to be agreement among the truthful anonymous. There are only so many ways to say the sky is blue

When are we going to acknowledge that a jannie made this thread to vent his feelings at the current users of the board

>>21065082
this is elite-level /pol/troon mental gymnastics

>>21065082
they'll often post smug replies right before deleting threads too

>>21065049
>That's definately more like Anacharism and they do tend to think like that
Stop pretending Communism isn't essentially anarchism already. Of course, that's ultimately why it'll never happen.
>Marxist-Leninism is all about family units and solidarity within organizations
Don't forget retardation and hypocrisy. And best of all: Failure.
but seriously, they do not support traditional social bonds, they support the subversion of existing bonds to fit some new modernist ideology. Also, what was it that Lenin said about children and their parents again?

The only thing leninism had was it's cultish spirit that convinced people to die for some decrepit old revolutionaries in the name of liberation. And even then, Mao mogged them in that department with his movement's spiritual fervor.

>It did pretty much the exact opposite of what it set out to do
What did it set out to do and holy shit man you say this as if it even matters to you people.

>>21065073
Red-Brown types I usually associate with actually do it quite well and use theories like labor theory of value and dialectical materialism to further their views

>>21065066
I'm pretty far right but even I know that's a lie. However its mostly the exception and not the rule

>>21065119
i'm pretty far right too, i just like posting "Chud moment."

>>21063635
Cool story bro

>>21065073
I beg to differ. I think it's mainly just people intentionally being retarded and your too autistic to comprehend it or most right-wingers don't bother trying to larp as retarded Marxoids.

>>21065042
People often say "rightoid" but "leftoid" is much rarer in my observations

>>21065125
"leftist" already carries with itself negative connotations.

>>21065034
Are you that assblasted at being called a teenage neo-nazi? If all you want to talk about here are far-right views on culture war issues because those discussions are banned elsewhere then you deserve it; maybe you're twenty-three at the oldest.

>>21065076
Hitler was all defeated utterly by those same people.

>>21065101
Look into the Soviet Union in the 70's and 80's. It wasn't really that bad you can't really call that a failure. It collapsed due to internal politics and cronyism not that it's economic system was unworkable. Same with commie Yugoslavia. Mao did dab on them by making it's flavor of socialism something people wanted rather than just sort of ordering things into place but I think that has more to due with cultural differences.

I want to say Facism meant to expand their nations' borders, uplift and hone their people into a unified and cohesive nation.

Instead all their countries got SMALLER, their best genetics got flushed down the drain fighting in the war, their culture got winnowed by their occupiers, their countries bombed into rubble. Fascism had some ideas and when they implimented them IRL they got fucking clobbered. Much worse results than even the most backwards implementation of socialism short of Pol Pot.

>>21065073
Everyone has an internet connection and the average user is less intelligent than he would have been years and years ago, when trolling had more finesse to it. People think it's "trolling" if you get any response at all now; gone are the days of executing the most perfectly clever jab to bait the opponent into crafting a five paragraph essay oozing with his outrage.

>>21065151
Yeah idk I tend to take everything people say here at face value because it's more fun that way. I definately don't get emotionally invested in whatever people say though.

>>21063635
>uses transgender and not trannie

Ywnbaw

>>21065134
>Look into the Soviet Union in the 70's and 80's. It wasn't really that bad you can't really call that a failure
>collapses
ok.
>It collapsed due to internal politics and cronyism not that it's economic system was unworkable.
I forget how autistic you guys are about economics. I guess that's historical materialism for you. Hopefully you'll realize soon that ideology and internal politics is much more important than any 'economic system'

>Much worse results than even the most backwards implementation of socialism short of Pol Pot.
Pol Pot didn't really have the entire world trying to kill him but sure. There is no excuse for losing in the only game that matters i.e. War.
They're both enlightenment ideologies that ultimately do not describe reality in any meaningful way. Worthy of the dustbin.

>>21065151
This. Holy fucking shit. I've been trying to tell people for fucking years that just copy and pasting some political opinion from (insert side here) isn't trolling. How these idiots think this is somehow clever is beyond me.

If niggas ain’t going to stick to the rules they should just stay in their own threads

>man, 4chan used to be a place of unchecked freedom where you could troll freely and be as provocative as possible...
>but now... idk man... now they've started saying the n-word and making fun of my transgender friends

>>21065178
schizo moment.

>>21065190
Glownigger moment. Fuck you.

>>21065178
I'm inside your head right now feeding your seed.

>>21065131
Are you that assblasted at being called a 19 black teen?

>>21065211
You misunderstand: I have no problem with shitposting. It's when people post the sincere beliefs of others without adding or changing anything just to get (you)s. It's empty attention whoring. Nothing more.

>>21065171
There are no trannies on 4chan. Only trannylovers

>>21065218
It's just silly to assume everyone irritated by post-stormfags is an urban youth

>>21063645
>wonder if there isn't like a deliberate effort to turn every online space into a battleground for this artifical culture war.
Maybe, but just look at the news, the news normies are starting to see.
The culture war is everywhere now; I don't even think they need to force it when you see stupid shit like pedoes getting arrested at the door of school libraries on mainstream news every other week.

>>21063635
>The /lit/ of today:
>>TRANSGENDERS TRANSGENDERS TRANSGENDERS
>>THE JEW WORLD ORDER IS BLOWING UP WESTERN CIVILIZATION
>>KILL WOMEN
>>EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A PEDO
>>LOL JRODAN PETERSON LOBSTER LOL ROFL
>>I LIKE PRINGLES
>>AAAA TRANSGENDERS AAAAAARRRHGHAKDS
>>I HATE BLACK AUTHORS THEY MAKE ME MAD AND SAD
>>WHAT ARE SOME BOOKS TO BE NAZI
>>HOW DO I PROVE THAT ALL LIBERAL ARE COMMUNIST PEDOPHILE SOCIALIST

For a site that ridicules normies and groupthink, it’s funny to watch the hypocrisy and total lack of self awareness

>basedjaks and ynbaw-posting
alright folks wrap it up, we're done here. see ya in the next thread

>>21065177
I think an ideology that heavily focused on war and conquest and subjectation was pretty much what was counterproductive about fascism to say the least.

Nobody ever accuses Nazis at being bad at fighting, it's just they never stood a chance even with arguably the best military and strategy they could possibly muster, but it boiled down to an economic calculation I don't believe they thought mattered. They kinda drank their own Kool Aid about their superiority and gravely underestimated their opposition.

So I'd say Fascism's mechanism of collapse was directly baked into it's ideology. Not dissimilar to the structure of the Soviet Union with its built in mechanisms used to unravel it.

Idk maybe a kinder, gentler Facism would be sustainable but what would that even look like?

>>21065131
marxoids literally do nothing but talk about their faggy little science for human emancipation and how best to bring about the revolution. You are missing your dilation

>>21063635
Literally all those topics are forming the great /lit/erists of tomorrow. It’s essentially they be supported.

>>21065247
Why are you spacing as if you were on reddit?

>>21065190
how is what he said schizo? Are you a bo?

>>21065246
Indeed. Stormtrannies are the biggest crypto-normies of them all.

>>21065247
>I think an ideology that heavily focused on war and conquest and subjectation was pretty much what was counterproductive about fascism to say the least.
>>21065247
that sucks because it wasn't nearly as integral to their ideology as many people think. Also, Marxism is under the delusion that they are constantly in a war with the elusive bourgoise so that doesn't fit well into your post.
the point is that war is the ultimate determinant.
> but it boiled down to an economic calculation
not really. Hitler was a retard and you admit this further on. again, economics is not a primary determinant. It's pretty nebulous. They're society wasn't even as closely militaristic as some people think. Imagine wasting manpower on killing yids, imagine wasting effort on creating some artificial coffee for your decadent nation which can't go a day without it.
If a country can overcome the hedonic treadmill then I truly think it would be unstoppable.

I don't consider myself to be subscribed to fascism or any post-enlightenment ideology for that matter. There's only so many ways you can try to convince me how your specific form of democracy/oligarchy/monarchy is cool because you've baked your specific party ideology into it.

>>21064184
There are less than 10 mods sitewide, i doubt /lit/ even has a single dedicated moderator

>>21065187
>>but now... idk man... now they've started saying the n-word and making fun of my transgender friends
Yes, these people are retarded, but what you don't understand is that the average IQ has gone way down and as a result the 'trolling' is retard-tier and completely misunderstands what trolling actually is. For trolling to be trolling it has to be funny, not just to you, but to the audience who witnesses the troll. When you just post something retarded and annoying with the express intent to annoy someone: Only you derive satisfaction from this because you received a (you). There's no joke, no humor, nothing, meaning it isn't trolling. It's bait. It's attention whoring. Bait is not trolling. It's the misunderstanding and bastardization of trolling by retards who were the marks of trolls and wanted to get revenge by getting in on trolling but were too stupid to understand what it was.
You poor dumb underage newfag niggers have no idea.

>>21065279
>they're
their*

All I can say is the culture war needs to end. Retards on both sides are fucking up the internet and real world. What I don’t understand is how lit became a casualty. Just being adjacent to pol? At the end of the day, if you don’t read books you shouldn’t be here regardless of your beliefs. And no one gives a fuck about your beliefs anyway so keep them to yourself

>>21065283
I disagree that trolling has to be funny to anyone but yourself or other like-minded anons.

>>21065290
>All I can say is the culture war needs to end.
OK, how would you like it to end?

>>21065258
>what would that even look like?
Where do people use the phrase "what would that look like?", and what does their political leaning look like?

>>21065247
Homo

You people bumped this shit thread to 200 replies. You are incapable of discussing actual literature. You don't to. You want to complain. Fyck you

>>21065298
By the radicals on each side dying

>catalog filled with the usual threads as it has had for years.
>one guy calls you a tranny
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-ACK!!!!

>>21065306
you would be a radical in the 1900s
>>21065300
this

>>21065306
>only midwits are left
the horror

>>21065300
Look at the state of the board. The changing of the guard has been a disaster

>>21065238
It has nothing to do with whether I agree or disagree with the views being screeched all over the board. If every other thread was about bananas "I LIKE BANANAS" "BANANAS GOOD, BOOKS FOR THIS FEEL?" "BOOK ON WHY BANANA-HATERS ARE MANLET PEDOS" "BOOK TO HELP HAVE SEX WITH BANANA???" it would still turn the board into a shithole regardless of whether you like bananas.

>>21063635
Mods suck dick, that's true. But have you done anything to promote the posts or threads you want to see? I'm not even talking making them, I mean: have you even even gotten your fat ass off your greasey chair to bump a thread or give a good post a single solitary (you)? Why do you expect anons to make good threads when they end up dying alone in darkness, yelling into the void?

>>21065187
It has nothing to do with whether I agree or disagree with the views being screeched all over the board. If every other thread was about bananas "I LIKE BANANAS" "BANANAS GOOD, BOOKS FOR THIS FEEL?" "BOOK ON WHY BANANA-HATERS ARE MANLET PEDOS" "BOOK TO HELP HAVE SEX WITH BANANA???" it would still turn the board into a shithole regardless of whether you like bananas.

>>21065323

>>21065334
>But have you done anything to promote the posts or threads you want to see?
Yes.

>>21065339
I have to admit, that's kind of funny.

>>21065294
>funny to anyone but yourself or other like-minded anons
That's exactly my point, though. It has to be funny, and there has to be a wink. If you are trolling with a political opinion it can't just be a copy and paste of a genuine opinion because then only you know that you aren't serious. What's the point? There has to be a wink for other anons to recognize. The humor comes from the mark not recognizing the wink. The tards overlook the wink and think you just copy and paste (insert side here)'s beliefs on a forum where they are disagreed with. That's just attention whoring. Or they post something inflammatory rather than absurd.
The art of the troll is in the wink, or in crafting an absurd opinion that no one else has but is also just barely believable enough for people to mistake it for genuine belief.
The artistry is gone and now it's just irritation for the sake of irritation - for the sake of attention. It's mindless. It's like a girl taking a picture of her ass for likes on instagram. It's bottom of the barrel attention whoring.

>>21065336
man, I think antisemitism is stupid but I don't make threads complaining about it unless it has something specifically to do with literature in a clever way.
>>21065339
based

>>21065313
Well it ain’t the 1900’s anymore
>>21065314
>only pozzed and /pol/brain people are smart

>>21065339
What did the jannie mean by this?

>>21065334
Every time I have a hot take someone always tries to argue with me so I go back and forth on whether its worth it or not

>>21065348
>man, I think antisemitism is stupid but I don't make threads complaining about it unless it has something specifically to do with literature in a clever way.
Then you're a model poster. Unfortunately the retard hordes are more numerous.

>>21065347
>The artistry is gone and now it's just irritation for the sake of irritation - for the sake of attention. It's mindless. It's like a girl taking a picture of her ass for likes on instagram. It's bottom of the barrel attention whoring.
Well put.

>>21065334
The issue is the demographics have greatly changed. Any /pol/cel can talk about politics. Readers can only discuss books they’ve read. /lit/ is infested

>>21065252
I don't care for their unsolicited culture war opinions either. You outnumber them here and are by sheer volume more obnoxious, lower quality, and off-topic.

>>21065258
That's not what Reddit spacing is newfag.

>>21065299
No you.

>>21065279
Personally, I am not hedonistic and don't believe in utopias. Socialism in reality would be MORE work and MORE austerity because it would be for the sake of future generations. Commies who think about 4 hours workweeks and government paying them to jerk it to anime titties all day isn't it.

I despise the elites because they are parasites and I wouldn't accept substituting them for another class of idlers. So maybe we have that in common.

>>21065386
no one cares

>>21065386
>I despise the elites
stunning and brave... books for this platitude?

>>21065402
The Turner Diaries

>>21065393
>>21065402
Wow rude.

>>21065336
the bananas books thread is OBVIOUSLY bait to talk about gravity's rainbow but you're too much of a dumbass to get it. /lit/ is so bad now, but it's not because of the moderation.

>>21065386
>Commies who think about 4 hours workweeks and government paying them to jerk it to anime titties all day isn't it.
you can blame leftcomms for that shit.

>>21065323
You don't notice the agenda when it's your agenda. That's how bias works. Every popular english speaking forum everywhere is dominated by "progressive liberal" attitudes. If you went to Africa you would think Africa has been invaded by /pol/ because nobody agrees with your specific brand of hollywood liberalism.

>>21065475
It’s not an either/or thing

>>21065482
>either/or
This is now a Kierkegaard thread.

>>21065475
You have /pol/brain if you think every single poster on this board has an "agenda".

>>21065491
I really like his idea that when you create an idea you also create its opposite. So, with Christianity you also create anti-Christianity, or Satanism. Something that is often overlooked is the fact that without Christianity there is no Black Sabbath. People want to destroy Christianity, or eradicate it from memory, but even those people love Christ's red-headed step-children: The Satanists, or those who were inspired by Satan. The anti-Christians, are, themselves, products of Christianity. Their culture derived from the same well-spring that is Christianity.
If we can take one thing away from Christianity it is that it is the most powerful cultural lightning rod to ever exist. More great art and culture stems from that one religion than any other (in the West, at least).

>>21065482
>>21065509
Every place is inundated with one political perspective and when it's even slightly challenged you reduce it all to "/pol/brain". That it even occurs to you to complain about some expression of the natural reaction that will always inevitably result from the propaganda being spread globally shows you have absolutely no self awareness. You really are mindless media controlled zombies like the memes portray you.

>>21065514
Satanists are just atheist edgelords fedora-enjoyers who adopt some of the aesthetic trappings of Christianity to mock it.

I guess you're right. What is anti-islam then?

>>21065530
I don't know. I'm not familiar enough with their culture.

>>21065535
I think Muslims hate ex-muslims more than anything. They will put up with flawed Muslims, or Muslims like Bosnians who are basically atheists who don't eat pork.

People who renounce Islam entirely they absolutely loathe. There's just not enough of them, tiny fringe minority because most secularized Muslims still claim the title even if they don't practice it.

>>21065526
Can you discuss something without bringing politics into it?

>>21065262
if you went outside you'll realize most normies are not racist, unfortunately so. especially white people.

>>21065561
Your perspective and biases will bleed through and when some of those are pointed out people will call that political. As if I'm supposed to accept your perspective and politics as the authoritative official perspective in all speech. This propagates your perspective implicitly, even to children. Your desire to avoid "politics" has then become a tool for propaganda.

>>21065577
You need to play multiplayer games with more 14 year olds, the new crop of racists is more powerful than I could have hoped

>>21065591
We may live to see the first post-ironic lynching

>>21065585
I’m pretty neutral and apolitical so it’s possible. If you are incapable of not bringing politics into everything then you are the reason this board is shitty and this retarded culture war is going on

>>21065591
A lot of people grow out of it though or at least stop caring about it much.

>>21063635
case in point: the jannies banned me for three days for making a meta thread, but this thread will stay up until 300 replies.

>>21065610
there are no jannies, just a script that randomly deletes threads and bans users. it keeps the board on edge.

>>21063635
They are overpaid

>>21065598
>I’m pretty neutral and apolitical so it’s possible
Maybe it's possible but you're not an example of that. You're an example of exactly what I just said. Your perspective is not neutral or objective.

>>21065598
>neutral and apolitical
On here or in general? If it's the latter I'm not sure I believe you

>>21065591
A lot of that is shit talking. I used to be a 14 year old teller of racist jokes and etc but was never actually racist. I've always found racism abhorrent.

>>21065632
I am here to discuss literature. I can appreciate a wide range of writers regardless of political affiliations. If this board was overrun with leftist I would be bitching about them. It isn’t the particular politics that ruin this place but the fact that it is over run with them and some anons are here to discuss nothing else. And we all know nothing will derail discussion faster than politics. What makes it even more ridiculous is that there is a board specifically for them one click away

>>21065647
>I am here to discuss literature.

>>21065637
In general. See my post >>21065647. I’ve learned that fixating on politics will bring negativity and unhappiness. I’m not going to change the world by airing my views and neither will anyone here

>>21064014
A bunch, including one I've been dating for almost a decade. The ones I meet IRL are the same mixed bag as everyone else. Some are great, some are batshit insane. I think it's bogus to blame the former for the latter.

>>21065654
I know I’m retarded for holding out hope this place will change. Fortunately for you I’m clearly recognizing it isn’t. Believe it or not, this place used to be pretty good for discussing books and writers. Crazy, right?

>>21065591
The punchline is, of course, that people that age in the United States are mostly POC.

>>21064149
I think it's less about that and more about there being a bit of a trail of ancestry behind the ideas, despite how different they are in scope. Critical Gender Theory/Queer Theory spawned out of Critical Theory from the Frankfurt School, pushed predominantly by self-identifying Marxists.

>>21064093
I completely agree, however I feel this is a good thing for us. It's a safe space in the sense that you can say or post anything you want (aside from illegal content) without worry of harm coming to you for being an asshole. This allows people to be complete assholes to others without social consequences (unless they namefag or something of that nature). The people they are being assholes too also gain this same benefit, as nothing said or posted can actually harm them (following dangerous advice is still a decision that you make with your own agency and willful ignorance). People can let loose on each other, while at the end of the day we all know we're just random anons in the wild laughing at each other, while hitting the deeper, more nuanced points of discussion without filter.

>>21065647
>If this board was overrun with leftist I would be bitching about them.
This statement is a matter of perspective, it is overrun with leftists and you're discussing politics right now.