/lit/ - Literature

Lol this cant be real can it? It reads like a schitzposter trying to emulate IJ

Just marry a normie.

Lol this cant be real can it? It reads like a schitzposter trying to emulate IJ

>>21052814
>randomly double posts many minutes apart
>accuses others of schizo behavior
aight

>>21052833
I didnt double post lol.

>>21052841
>>21052833
>>21052814
>>21052791
>>21052771
You guys are so goddamned retarded it’s insane


Anyway, the point is dfw is based and completely right, here

>>21052861
Thank you

>>21052759
Meanwhile...
>Wallace had called the female fans who attended his book tours “audience pussy,” that he had referred to one of the many women he bedded as “a three-day weekend I’m still paying the credit card bill on,” and that he had confessed to wondering whether his sole purpose in life was to “put his penis into as many vaginas as possible
I'm starting to think DFW was not always entirely honest

>>21052759
>alcoholic
>killed himself
>tells you to get a woman with low self-esteem
Yeah checks out
I agree though that your woman should at least be as intelligent as you are
t. In a happy relationship for two years now

>>21053036
You think love is required to fuck fans?

>>21053055
No, but it seems hypocritical that he's advising a reader to seek love by reading books at mental hospitals, when he himself is just fucking every random woman he meets

>>21053065
He also killed himself. You already have a leg up on him.

>>21052759
Laughed out loud when Turgenev randomly came up. The fuck.

>>21053102
Why do so many famous writers kill themselves? They have a fatality rate higher than the damn marines.

>>21053133
Smart people get depressed because they're surrounded by morons. Consider the following: the average IQ is 100. If you go down just 30 points, you're looking at an actual honest-to-god retard. Imagine having an IQ of 130, you're basically in the same boat as a normal person surrounded by mentally deficient people no matter where you go.
Would this depress you? I imagine it would. Thank god I'm not smart.

>>21053133
If you write then you read. If you do both a lot you partake in two mentally exhaustive, extremely lonely and time consuming activities that usually deal in the human condition to some degree. Reading about other people's existence tends to bring with it some form of contemplation and reflection. None of this is good for long-term mental health. It's like you're in a place you can't be at but you're also stuck and can't leave.

>>21053154
>Smart people get depressed because they're surrounded by morons

Wonderful example of what's called a cognitive bias. More specifically an implicit bias.

Educate yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias

>>21053190
Nah I'm pretty sure I'm right. If I was surrounded by drooling retards I'd kill myself too.

>>21053154
Not necessarily. My IQ is 141 and I’m a pretty happy dude. The important thing is perspective on life and critical self reflection

>>21052759
His advice is to go dumpster diving... no wonder he killed himself.

>>21053154
>>21053203
I have fun toying with people.

>>21052759
I've never read any books of him but all the quotes that get posted on /lit/ makes me think he was based

>>21053196
You just have to dehumanize them, I look at people as if they were dogs. It's the equality bullshit that gets you, you have to kill that shit.

>>21053154
>>21053203

People still take IQ's seriously?

Bahahaahhahahahahaahahahahhaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah

>>21053211
Also this. One of my hobbies is making anti-vax and raw carnivore threads on /fit/

>>21053221
The difference between dogs and people is that a dog is by nature not malicious.

>>21053217
I've only read Big Red Son and what people post of him here and I'm of basically the same mind. Seems like he was a depressed neurotic hypocrite and I still have no urge whatsoever to read IJ, but he seems like a pretty cool guy

>>21053225
>raw carnivore
So about those parasites

>>21053230
I know right? You just have to talk about >muh ancestors and hunters and these meatheads do even the most retarded shit. Really fun, you should try it as well

>>21053226
Different people, different dog breeds. People are passive aggressive, you never meet an aggressive person.

>>21053237
>you never meet an aggressive person
Clearly you've never worked in customer service

>>21053237
>People are passive aggressive, you never meet an aggressive person.

Are you American? Do you live in a nice suburban neighborhood with a 2-car garage? Or is yours 4-car?

>>21053241
I'd still say a pitbull is more dangerous than any person. Even a nog with a gun. Anyway, the comparison is valid, people are dogs.

>>21053259
>I'd still say a pitbull is more dangerous than any person. Even a nog with a gun.
The statistics don't support you man

>>21053284
Black on black crime. The pittbull doesn't care, and you can't give it money.

>>21053290
The statistics don't agree with you. No clever witticism will change the nature of reality, and in that reality pittbulls are a small threat.

>>21053294
There are more people than pitbulls. Imagine millions of stray pitbulls.

>>21053190
>Doesn't understand what cognitive bias means
>Falsely equates a hypothetical situation (that is possible) with cognitive bias
>"Educate yourself."
This is very good bait

>>21053221
I think of them as Boxer in animal farm. Most morons I know work themselves to the bone for good boy points from the boss, even though the boss discards them at a moment's notice.

>>21053300
>hypothetical situation

Um...what? We weren't discussing hypotheticals. That was used as an example to substantiate the claim. We are discussing the claim. Here is the claim that was made, word for word.

"Smart people get depressed because they're surrounded by morons."

X happens BECAUSE of Y.

X = smart people get depressed
because = happens due to, is the cause of
Y = being surrounded by "average IQ" people --> 100

Y causes X.
Being surrounded by average IQ people depresses "smart" people.
This is your or anon's claim.

What evidence do you have for this? If none, nothing backs you up, substantiates your claim, this is due to the inherent subjective reality within which you exist. This can be stated due to the value judgments you are making, i.e. "smart", "average", "morons", "depressed" and the relationships you are establishing between these values without correspondence to the empirical real world. You're claiming a causative relationship instead of merely observing a correlation that would need to be investigated further upon that very observation.

Thus, cognitive bias.

>>21053377
>"the only things that are real are that of which we have evidence for."

>>21052759
>Why I Will Never Have a Girlfriend (1999)
https://logological.org/girlfriend
German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence
they did the /math/ - it's impossible to get a non-neurotic gf in your lifetime.
you will accept sloppy seconds thots and you will be happy.

>>21053154
Kek. Thats not how iq works. It's a rank order. The actual cognitive difference between 100 and 130 is not the same and certainly less than the difference between 70 to 100. You're just coping because you're an autistic retard who can't into social situations and grasping for something to save your ego.

Is there a good collection of his correspondence?

>>21052759
kek was that really his response? my niqqa wallace, as it turns out, was actually one based mfker

>>21053223
My iq is 162 and I have come to the conclusion that the entire concept of iq is a load of pseudoscientific nonsense on par with astrology and crystal healing.
I've never actually met anyone who is more intelligent than me and I'm constantly trying to not seem rude or obnoxious whenever I have to explain something to someone, and also having to watch people make stupid repetitive mistakes which would've been easily avoided had they done what I'd fucking told them to do after the first mistake. I'm very sad and I miss my old cat.

>>21054065
Sadly no but you can view it at the UT library

I wonder if DFW fucked any frail, insane bitches during his stay at McLean, ‘cause it’s sounding like he did.

>>21052759
>Entire paragraph of dissimulation following a harmless comment that might nonetheless be interpreted as my soggy knees
Rule #1 of writing: know your audience

>>21056311
How does this violate that rule?

>>21054055
If 100 is supposed to be the median of the distribution wouldn't 70 and 130 be the same percentile away on either side

>>21056739
100 is the average (mean), not the median

>>21056757
In a normal distribution the median and mean are the same...

>>21052759
What a load of shit. No wonder his books fucking suck.

>>21056775
Every time I see you post you have terrible opinions.

>>21056783
Sorry. I accidentally posted this in the wrong thread. I think DFW is 100% correct here and I love his books.

>>21056783
Not him >>21056794
Sorry, I just hate american memes.

>>21056783
This >>21056800 isn't me. Someone is trying to steal my name.

>>21052833
I didnt double post lol.

Is it possible to find an e-girl who's into Finnegans Wake?

Highly intelligent females who read well, write well, and have philosophical minds don't really exist, and if they do, I have not met any and suspect they would have insufferable personalities or be too deranged to date - let alone physically attractive. The nearest I came to such a woman was a bipolar alcoholic... and even then, she wasn't really that close to the desired mold.

Women didn't evolve to do much meaningful thinking. Their thoughts tend toward the superficial, to people and relationships. Don't spend too much time looking for such a mystical woman. Be content with finding one who is competent, compassionate, attractive to you and breedable. Someone who you get along with and enjoy the company of, and who can hold down a decent job or is at least capable of acquiring one. She ought to be mentally stable and the two of you should have most values in common.

Save the big brain stuff for your male friends.

>>21057526
My roommate is doing her masters degree in philosophy right now and is easily a 9. you just don’t hang out with academics enough it seem

>>21052759
itt underground people pretending there's something to react strongly about here because he's popular

>>21053133
Writing is lonely. And you don't get proper feedback until after ages of isolating work. Notice that the same trend isn't true for filmmakers even though many filmmakers are extremely smart and extremely well read.

>>21053217
He's occasionally incisive but also frequently banally introspective.

>>21057526
Was she a weeb?

>>21057536
>easily a 9

Have you seen her naked to determine this or does she just have a cute face? Because if she is just pretty and doesn't have at least d-cup breasts that have a good shape with nice nipples, a flat shapely tummy with an innie belly-button, a nice, plump, shapely muscular ass and thighs, then she is merely a 7 that would get mogged naked. Hell, she could have weird gross boobs.

>>21053298
Hell on earth

>>21056760
Sir, we are dealing with the pseudosciences

>>21053036
yeah it's famous that women go on tour to have sex with writers
dont forget that literature is a vaginal activity mostly talking about boredom and sex, ie the entirety of the life of a vagina

>>21057526
>Women didn't evolve to do much meaningful thinking. Their thoughts tend toward the superficial, to people and relationships. Don't spend too much time looking for such a mystical woman. Be content with finding one who is competent, compassionate, attractive to you and breedable. Someone who you get along with and enjoy the company of, and who can hold down a decent job or is at least capable of acquiring one. She ought to be mentally stable and the two of you should have most values in common.
of course you understand that women dont do meaningful thinking precisely because men orbit women and compete for them in the first place, right? and women dont do meaningful thinking because they get men do it for them

>>21057536
Post pic of a girl that looks like her. Your 9 is not believable, a 9 is a legit model.

>>21058743
She literally works as a model as a side gig
And I won’t, I’m not enough of a narcissist that I brag with the looks of my fucking roommate, I just mentioned it because it seems to me as I’m the only person on /lit/ that has actually studied philosophy in university (though I only did so as a side Bachelor to my main degree) and knows that it’s not just autistic spergs

>>21058754
I highly doubt a legit 9 would be studying philosophy. Can you imagine Liz Taylor contemplating on the nonsense some geezer cooked up? She's a 7 or 8.

>>21058767
And I wouldn’t consider Liz Tayler a 9. Make of that what you will

>>21058774
9s are either working as successful models, actresses, or married to a rich man. They're not studying philosophy.

>>21058780
That’s a rather limited and misogynistic view on life. Anyways, this discussion won’t lead anywhere without me posting a picture of her, which I won’t do. So have a good day sir and hopefully you’ll manage to outgrow your childish worldview

>>21058780
>>21058802
Forgot to mention, she actually has an insanely rich boyfriend. Still studies philosophy

>>21058802
>>21058804
>misogynistic
My point is a beautiful woman is beyond philosophy, or should be. Philosophy is a male decadence. But hey, if she's that far gone that's her loss. Say hi to her for me.

>>21052841
>>21056852
who let the schizo out?

>>21058780
Interesting take. I know several beautiful women that are also highly intelligent, but almost all of them are not heterosexual—and the few that are are basically wizard-level celibate

>>21058857
You sound young and dumb.

>>21054034
All that proves is most academic research is bullshit

>>21052759
Imagine taking dating advice from a guy who looks like a hobo and killed himself.

>>21054452
Yeah, you seem unbearable

>>21058873
Truth hurts

>>21058236
legit

>>21053044
He’s not telling you to get a gf with low self esteem, he is making fun if the guy who asked how to get a /lit/ gf by showing the shallowness of it. This board really has such bad reading comprehension?

>>21053065
>>21053206
>>21056775
>>21058938
See>>21059338

Bros how do I stop being attracted to BPD/daddy issues girls

Often these chickss are the only ones with any intellectual or quirky pursuits but that's a trap

>>21059338
where did he say that? and his advice worked for me back in the day.