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this is on topic because it has to do with the effects of reading literature.
long story short, i've literaly developed a speach impediment and a whole host of other odd physiological problems as a result of trying to read and understand philosophy. i guess.
im wondering what the hell happened to me, and if any of you gentlemen can relate.
i don't think there's a point to me trying to explain what it was i was trying to understand, at the very least it would be pointless because im not a good enough writer and don't even have enough terminology to describe it. but i started thinking very very deeply and i was like
'wow, i've never ever thought THIS deeply before, i must be really getting at something.'
then i started to (seemingly) becoming aware of my own thoughts as 3d shapes moving around in my head, and they kept folding in on eachother endlessly. at this point i became scared because things were happeing in my head that i wasn't in controll of, but i was also kind of proud of myself because it was just so weird. but i started to get really concerned when i started to almost blackout, or something like it. like i caught myself staring off into the distance in a paralyses for a long time, and not a pleasant, lost in my imagination kind of thing, but like i was tripping on lsd or something and was just swimming through my head. really hard to explain and really freightening, i think i was right at the edge of actaully being insane.
i could go on but i made the right descision to touch grass for a while and just stop reading anything, get more exercise etc. but the thing that is lingering is a literal stutter, it's very annoying, i now have a mild speach impediment. also i swear my coordination and balance is worse.
have you experienced anything like this or did i just have a brain aneursym.

>> No.21027178
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You need to read Spinoza again and rest weary traveller.

>> No.21027184

>>21027168
So what saying basically is that your sub 70 iq is preventing you from engaging with philosophy is any meaningful way

>> No.21027188

>>21027168
>this on topic because it has to do with the effects of reading literature
Ahhh, how sweet. Anon, whether or not this was on-topic is immaterial. The whole forum is in disarray, so you mustn't worry your little head with being as scrupulous as you are. The jannies won't be after you even if you shitpost

>> No.21027190

>>21027168
Philosophy has nothing to do with your problem. You have actual neurological issues and you need medical help.

>> No.21027194

your ego can actually not be developed enough for philosophy, this is a thing, and its perfectly okay

maybe try again in a few years

>> No.21027221

>>21027168
>im not a good enough writer
Don't you ever say that again, anon. You're a great writer. This is the funniest thing I've ever read; it's the most sincere and subtle shitpost on here. I do believe you, I do. Though I would be remiss if I attribute your symptoms to 'having read philosophy' as you seem to be doing. Tell me if this makes sense: do you believe it possible that you always had a stutter but were merely unaware of it because of a quote unquote "zoomer brain"? Maybe your reading philosophy calmed your brain, and now you can truly focus. You are a baby again, and you must learn to walk once more. I wouldn't worry about such things. Though do see a doctor, my fine gentleman.

>> No.21027307

It’s happening

>> No.21027368

>>21027168
Stupid frogposter

>> No.21027380

>>21027168
>this is on topic
If you need to put that in, you know it isn't
Go set up a wordpress blog or something
I hear crycrytl;dr.loser is available

>> No.21027418

Reading philosophy is retarded. I mean don't get me wrong, philosophy as a whole is an excellent venue for critical thinking and understanding the way of being human but ultimately reading Plato, Socrates, Descartes, even Nietzche isn't going to help you do anything other than develop cataracts. You're better off cliff noting the greats, maybe reading some existential novels and then moving from there to modern fiction/post modern fiction to help your work. I've read enough philosophy at this point and after reading the critique of pure reason ironically realized there's no point in reading philosophy at all. You make your own philosophy and apply it to your work. The only people reading philosophy unironically are those who can't make works of art themselves or are authoritarian/fascist wanna bes and that's not what philosophy was intended for.

>> No.21027437

>>21027178
thank you. i have not read spinoza in the first place, but i take it he's not a wishy washy kind of guy.
>>21027184
or was my sub 70iq that which allowed me to engage with it meaningfullly, chew on that brainiac.
>>21027221
thank you. i am however quite sure i did not have a stutter beforehand. i should be clear that it's really not that bad and im getting control of it. but never in my life have i ever had an actual stutter before hand. it's not something you don't notice. it's like somethings out of sync, you have something you want to say, you begin to say it and you just skip like a broken record. imagine if you went to reach and pick up a glass, and right when you lift your hand up you suddenly find it snapped back in time and you're back with your hand down but already begining to lift it up. it's like there's something else controlling your body for a bit.
>>21027194
anon you mustn't say this, my greatest pride is my innately highly developed ego.
>>21027190
there's probably a link though, a very profound one, between existential or 'life' views and your physiology.

>> No.21027467

>>21027418
>absolutes in regards to abstract ideas.

>> No.21027477

>>21027467
Abstract ideas are fine but only if they relay a sense of understanding to the real world.

>> No.21027550
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21027550

Read the rules:

Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

>> No.21027597

>>21027168
you chased novelty experiences related to thinking rather than true knowledge. yes it is possibly dangerous, especially when you get to modern philosophy where it becomes increasingly about novelty and wild thinking patterns. stick to pre-modern stuff - if it has to do with temperance, non-desire, calm, self sufficiency, transcendence, its probably decent for your mind

>> No.21027615

>>21027168
Are you a sheltered firstie? Philosophers of yore used to fight in wars, not complain about their fake ailments.

Maybe go volunteer in ukraine before reading another book

>> No.21027650

>>21027615
This. Philosophy cannot be fully utilized until you have the mental ability to kill, and have also seen things such as war, rape, torture. You don't have see them or experience them firsthand, but you need to realize what they actually are. Many firsties live only in their bubble of consoom, having never even seen the result of a man being shot through the head.

>> No.21027730

>>21027615
And this is why philosophy today is absolutely useless as a subject or even reference. It's just irrelevant in peace times and doesn't offer anything to discourse other than I LIKE TO THINK OF THE WORLD AS A COALESCING FUNCTION OF HUMAN CONSIOUSNESS WITH RESPECTS TO MORALS.

>> No.21027784

>>21027168
The stutter is probably indecisiveness about how to phrase something. You can't decide on how to say something fast enough to say it fluently because the books make you aware of how many choices you have.

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>>21027168
>. i guess.
Ohkhey retard. Idk, maybe wait a bit before taking action on ANYTHING, like a second or two at least, let the content sink in for a moment, especially when posting.

>> No.21027987

>>21027168
I already think in shapes like that and I was born unable to express myself verbally. It looks like philosophy was turning you autistic. It’s no problem, millions of us exist like this every day.

>> No.21028317

>>21027168
>like i caught myself staring off into the distance in a paralyses for a long time
Hmm, it's funny that according to Plato, Socrates had the same tick. I don't remember which dialog it is, but one of his friends had to excuse Socrates for falling behind because he was staring into the void.

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>>21028317
Boosting anons ego's since 1216, 12:36 AM. Free of charge and responsibility.

>> No.21029396

>>21027168
So what saying basically is that your sub 70 iq is preventing you from engaging with philosophy is any meaningful way

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>>21027168
Those are the Forms

>> No.21030523

>>21027550
Do people even care about the rules?

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I made the opposite experience. I was hyped to engage in deep intellectual pursuits with philosophy but every philosophical text I read was an utter disappointment. Once you look behind the big words they use to deceive midwits, everything the philosophers wrote is either trivial or wrong. Literally any philosophical proposition is either something I already knew when I was 5 or something so obviously stupid that even my former 5 y.o. me could easily refute it. Am I just too smart for philosophy? I'm a STEM Chad btw.

>> No.21031006

>>21027550
/his/ is shit for philosophy and the jannies can never make me talk about philosophy on /his/. it's full of schizo chritcucks and reddit atheists and religion is all they care about.

>> No.21031042

>>21030782
Name one such proposition

>> No.21031072

>>21027168
Bro if I can blast shrooms and DMT and see the same shit and not loose my ability to speak you’ll be fine. You’re probably manifesting your weird behaviors because you want people to recognize that you’ve taken your deep philosophical plunge, because you don’t actually have a productive and pro-social outlet for all the thinking you’ve done. Treasure the beauty of what you’ve seen forever, and let it inspire you, but know you’re not special, and that even if people knew how deep you are they wouldn’t care. Go make some money boy. And do something creative if you have time. That speech shit will go away. Peace.

>> No.21031073

>>21031042
>determinism
>behaviorism
>eliminative materialism
>epiphenomenalism
>functionalism
>deontology
>consequentialism
>cognitivism (ethics)
>Gettier problems
>theories of truth
Only the stupidest NPCattle would take these seriously.

>> No.21031094

>>21031073
And now show me how the 5 year old you would’ve refuted any of them (besides behaviorism which isn’t philosophy btw)

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>>21027168
Hahahaha, NPC is broken!

>> No.21031178

>>21031073
You can't refute eliminative materialism. It's directly derived from the scientific understanding of how the brain functions.I

>> No.21031237

>>21031178
False. All stances in the philosophy of mind are consistent with the scientific knowledge of neuroscience. Philosophy of mind is about that which outside the scope of science. However, many philosophical stance are inconsistent with experience or are self-contradictory

>> No.21031479

>OP eats shrooms and thinks that's philosophy
Stir yourself awake from the sleep of the sensory world, OP