/lit/ - Literature

>>21025946
is it even possible to be a conservative leftist these days? let's say I'm economically leftwing but socially rightwing.

>>21025958
You want national syndicalism or some other variant of third positionism

Sorel was a fan of both Lenin and Mussolini, and the Young Conservatives in Germany were big fans of Lenin, as was the fascist Ezra Pound

>>21025958
Being left or right no longer has anything to do with economics or class struggle, if you’re against replacing white europeans by various breeds of brown third worlders, you’re right wing.

>>21025946
>no real scottsman fallacy
Dropped
>>21025958
Leftism is very conservative outside of the anglosphere

>>21025958
That would make you literally hitler and consequently Enemy No. 1 of contemporary leftists.

>>21025972
>if you’re against replacing white europeans by various breeds of brown third worlders, you’re right wing.
I am against it but only if we are talking about indigenous Europeans living in their native lands. Australia, Canada, USA, they can all go to hell as far as I'm aware. I'm nationalistic to the extreme but if you don't have a real (read: indigenous) claim to the land, you're a phony.

>>21025987
So you're a dumb internationalist commie retard. Congrats.

>>21025987
Try reading Bernard Bailyin and Gordon Wood and see if you don't change your mind about the USA. One of the greatest republics in human history.

>>21025946
>muh church
>muh flag
Holy cope. Far worse still is the religious, and the nationalist.

>>21025991
No, I am pro-nationalism for Europeans, even to the point of fascism. Globohomo entities like Australia, Canada and USA are not indigenous and therefore not worthy of my concern.

>>21025995
you're a faggy teen with 0 understanding of humanity. your meme ideology is worthless.

The left are like zombies lurching towards the the bodily pleasures that they crave and that their politics seeks to make universal.
They're motivated by an inhuman will that allows them to justify whatever behavior they need at a given moment. All of the intellectual work they seem so proud of is just a rationalization to justify it.

>>21025946
WHAT IS A CONSERVATIVE TODAY? SOMEONE WHO DEFENDS JEWISH CAPITALISM. You are conserving nothing but your own destruction.

>>21025999
Are you European or are you Globohomo? What's your ideology?

>>21025995
>even to the point of fascism.
Surprise surprise.
This is the kind of idiocy you end up falling for if you believe in the actual existence of "rights." It's amusing how much of a red flag sympathy for fascism is in 2022. Basically means "I'm a retard crypto-commie who misses the point entirely."

>>21026009
I see fascism as a cleansing method, as a means to an end.
>>21026007
A Zionist.

>You're supposed to feel sorry when a bunch of genocidal zionist freemasons get what they deserve

>>21025993
What drives immigration to the USA is capitalism. Essentially you cannot be a true conservative and a corpo-capitalist. All the faggots whining about immigration and being le replaced ignore what causes it. It cannot be stopped because capitalism cannot be stopped.

>>21026035
>It cannot be stopped because capitalism cannot be stopped.
false, kys commtard

>>21026067
Capitalism will annihilate everything you hold dear. A diverse workforce is less likely to unionize, for example. This kind of things are what drive capitalist decisions. Being economically leftwing and socially rightwing is the correct approach for me.

>>21026078
The only real answer is anticapitalist radical centrism my friend

>>21026086
>radical centrism
what would that be exactly?

>>21025973
>leftism is conservative outside of the us

i'm french and i can affirm that there is no proper conservative / patriot leftist party there, it's only idealistic progressive commie bullshit or america cockriding, the RN is taking a better direction but it's full of retards and former ceos

>>21026094
Pragmatism and realism not driven by ideology or emotions, if either right or left have a good idea, use it.
Also the insight that fundamental reforms are necessary, instead of just slightly tweaking the parameters as non-radical centrism of today does.
This article is absolute trash but should give you a qrd
https://medium.com/radical-critique/radical-centrist-principles-and-values-ten-radical-centrist-values-by-billy-rojas-7479c6bf335

Nobody's gonna bring up that OP's screenshot is in like a nicer Comic Sans?

>>21026100
Would a Houellebecq make a good president? How would France be as Houellebecq as president?

>>21026102
Thanks

Leftcucks just aren't as intelligent as RW chads

>>21026113
Studies found no correlation between iq and political affiliation, but you wouldn’t know that since 4chan rightist are anti-scientific for some reason

>>21025946
Similar to how any ideology seeks memetic supremacy they are trying to spread their seed. Their main methods of choice are intimidation, subversion, manipulation etc. Basically all the shitty ones.
A huge reason for this is the fact that they have no real moral core. Their religion is atheism. Atheism is a religion, and a most pernicious one because its motto is "We are not a religion." Which its followers will repeat with dogmatic fervor at the mere mention that they might, just maybe, be subscribing to the same ideological framework. Since this religion is young and unsophisticated it has no concept of sympathy for its Devils. It will attack them without mercy and sleep soundly because it believes that it is true, just and right. Like any other religion, but without the temperance and empathy that comes with age and spiritual roots.
It is a dogma that abhors creation. Its founding an exercise in stamping out the desire to create - out of fear that the creation will lead to dogma - that will lead to ignorance - that will lead to violence. So terrified they were of being wrong - they never dared try at all.
Atheism demands castration of the mind. It is cowardice that demands all others be cowardly.
What started as a pearl in the minds of geniuses - the idea that we could be free from dogma - was cast to the swine, and was subsequently turned to mud. Such is the fate of all great ideas.

>>21026109
Kek, where is this from?

>>21025946
Why is every single last thing rightoids say projection? Are they even capable of perceiving other people?

>>21026228
I fucking hate how “schizo” became a cool edgy term for some zoomers to identify themselves with. You guys are just as pathetic as twitter trannies and their self diagnosed mental illness.

>>21025958
>let’s say I choose to be wrong about everything all the time

>>21025958
Proudhon thought conjugal fidelity and strong families were very important. I'm surprised he wasn't a free love weirdo like Fourier.

>>21026237
Shut up neocon

>>21026125
wrong. studies hyave shown leftists to be more stupid. they did not conclude why, but we all know why.

>>21026245
He was still a rabid atheist though

>>21026319
> Hodson and Busseri (2012) found in a correlational study that lower intelligence in childhood is predictive of greater racism in adulthood, with this effect being mediated (partially explained) through conservative ideology. They also found poor abstract reasoning skills were related to homophobic attitudes, mediated through authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact.

>What this study, and those before it, suggest is not necessarily that all liberals are geniuses and all conservatives are ignorant. Rather, it makes conclusions based on averages of groups. The idea is that for those who lack a cognitive ability to grasp the complexities of our world, strict-right wing ideologies may be more appealing.

No they’re aggressive because they feel like they are always under imminent threat of being massacred. See how they equate banal shit with violations of their God given human rights and how they equate nom-representation with “being erased” or even genocide. This is for the left-lib crybully type. Historical leftists and the modern “tankie” and “antifa super soldier” type are aggressive because they follow an active nihilism in which those who still say there are values have to be made not to be to “defend human freedom” and such

>>21025946
Not sure if this pertains to leftists but it certainly applies to vegans. Trying to inflict feelings of disgust (milk contains mucus, wine is filtered through fish guts) is the only way they can effectively get their point across - the reason they're so vitriolic and incessant is because they're used to falling on deaf ears.

>>21026408
The irony is that the ears wouldn't be so deaf if they weren't so vitriolic, people naturally rebel against aggressive approach. Sharing recipes around to inspire curiosity has a much better effect.

>>21025946
What you consider "leftism" is a religion for all intents and purposes. It tries very hard to pretend it's not religion but ackshully an enlightened scientific theory, because secularism, greatest achievement of Enlightenment and one of main pillars of civilization, still stands and prevents explicitly religious teachings from having social power. However in private "enlightened secular scholars" who teach you "leftism" bash their head so hard on checkered floor it makes whole lodge shake.

You ask why do they act wish such a grim manner? Why did Christian inquisition tasked with mindbreaking and executing wrongthinkers act with grim manner? Why weren't they humorous? Modern zealots of nameless religion that pretends it's not religion will be happy to do just that to you too, but secularism won't allow them, yet.

>>21025946
on an ideological level:
it's the same reason that governs aggressors to campaign for peace after they have stolen land and property
the essence of communism is perversion

on a human level:
the praxis of communism resides in giving jobs / roles / responsibilities to people who are not worthy of those jobs / roles / responsibilities
the reason for this is that the employees -- especially the bureaucrats -- are ten times as fierce in clinging to their job and ten times as loyal in defending their masters; it should be noted that their masters are the only reason they get to keep their job, said persons they having neither competence nor character
you can see this behavior highlighted in the USA, where almost all Black people and a large contingent of women vote for the Democratic party in order to gain free stuff and unearned priviledges

>>21025946
Projection
Cope, seethe, dilate, back to Twitter/Reddit, 41%

>>21026349
What does it mean if one started as a liberal and later in life became reactionary? Or the opposite, like Sorel?

>>21025946
this explains why leftists are so unfunny

>>21026408
>wine is filtered through fish guts
Is this for large-scale wine production? My grandfather has been making wine all his life and never used such a thing.

>>21026349
We all here know about the iq curve meme. Sure, plenty of retards are racist, but so are the Bobby Fischers and Ezra Pounds of the world.

>>21026237
evidently you do

>>21026422
>Why did Christian inquisition tasked with mindbreaking and executing wrongthinkers act with grim manner?
This is literally propaganda. The inquisition was very mild and they treated criminals so well that regular criminals would say heretic things to be sent to the inquisitors.

>>21026585
I don’t know who Ezra Pound is but Bobby Fischer was obviously mentally I’ll and so far into the autism spectrum that he came out the other end

>>21026593
>I don’t know who Ezra Pound
This is the quality of posters /lit/ is getting now. Go back. Seriously.

>>21025946
Leftists are biologically evil. Spandrell got it right.

>>21026598
Just looked him up. I’m not into poetry and it didn’t say anywhere on his Wikipedia page that he was extraordinarily intelligent or anything. Only that the Nazis first invited him over to visit some mass graves of Katyn but cancelled that because he was too unstable lmao
Also, I’ve been on this site since 2008

>>21026546
Why did left terrorism die with the New Left (funny how tankies now act like they were weak fags)?

>>21025946
>le left is so angry and coping and seething and aggressive, le right is always fun and relaxed and doesn't take itself too seriously, please ignore my aggressively coping and seething tone

>>21026584
I think so, but I'm not sure how commonplace it still is. White and sparkling wine are filtered through isinglass, which is dried swim bladder. 'Fish guts' serves to make it sound more barbaric.

>>21025946
>literature

>>21025968
That's basically what I am

>>21025994
I'm a religious and a right wing socialist. Not big on the race shit but I'd kill every atheist if I could

>>21025946
>Kept in bondage, needless poverty, needless hierarchy and ignorance, persecuted, manipulated, malnourished.
>Why does he spit on my precious flag???? Whaaaah
We want what our ancestors once had.
And if I hear one more tard-larper throw that "myth of the noble savage" routine at me....

>>21027042
you are just as pitiful as those blacks in the USA who imagine they were K A N G Z and not some cheap slaves sold by the dozen
instead of being grateful that you exist, you only know how to destroy, driven by your illusions... soon we will all be certain that the only way to get rid of scum like you is to physically remove you

>>21025946
>>/pol/

>>21027085
I'm a direct descendant of royalty.

>>21027095
A lot of people are related to Charlemagne. I’m not impressed

>>21027085
Idiot. I don't imagine kings, that's your bag. You know Argentina has been having such financial woes they stopped sending police out to their countryside. It's a free people's zone now and they're doing just fine.
So-called civilization destroys. I'd recommend the books that back all this up, but you're too busy reading esoterica of naziism and shit.

From the Epic of Gilgamesh, to the Kurds, from the Hmong and many others to the hillbillies and rednecks, and the preppers and old uncle Ted. There's a lot you could read to see proof of what we had.

>>21025958>>21025968
>>21026889

>>21025946
anarchism, socialism and many other isms were created by the same people who created capitalism, let that sink in

>>21026233
Other people dont exist. You, alone, are the only person alive

>>21027123
I'm sure. I also don't care.

>>21027115
And then you got your spine broken by someone with better tools.
>Le civilization is bad
>You abandon bad civilization
>I roll my tanks into your lawn because I felt like it
>Sharp stick can't stop them
>I run the place now, and I decide what's good or bad
Cry about it bitch lmao. Or at least find me book on primitivism that starts with instruction on how to stop tank with a sharp stick, because any primitivist philosophy is obliged to start from this. The only thing that ultimately governs the world is physical power.

>>21027123
That's a dumb narrow minded talking point.
You'r upset with the liberatory project, but the middle class of the revolutionary age were chiefly concerned with freeing their markets. So they too advantage of the poorer classes and seized power.
Now these poorer classes are too easily bought off and propagandized, some wanted the king back, some profited from the merchant middle class, but plenty of others saw the trick played on us all and moved to socialist ideals. You're a dumb bootlicker because you like shoe polish on your tongue. You'd squeeze King Charles toothpaste for a living and look down at dark people. Right?

Leftism is primarily a product of the dialectics of Platonic tradition, and dialectics are essentially a logic structure and ideological justification for power projection (the imposition of the will against the status quo WILL yield change, inevitably).

>>21027147
And you're cool with the extinction event or nuclear winter. civulzatun is sooo cool
Enjoy your modified corn zogbot

>>21027095
>"royalty" is characterized by whining whining whining
you ain't worth a spit
>>21027115
you can't even comprehend basic english and you come to /lit/ to whine and yap?
go away and drown in your own filth

>>21027166
>And you're cool with the extinction event
What extinction event exactly?

>nuclear winter
Even if we consider for a second that Cold War scaremongering without scientific basis is true, it's a choice between possibility of nuclear winter, and someone else having strategic weapons that you don't have, which automatically makes you their bitch. But in reality, even if entire nuclear arsenal of humanity gets set off right now, biosphere will barely feel anything.

>civulzatun is sooo cool
No, you don't seem to understand it. Civilization is the source of physical power, which makes civilization inevitable by Darwinian law. You cannot avoid civilization. Even if you try, your enemies, that are impossible not to have, certainly wouldn't, and it will result in you becoming their bitch. You can only be good or bad at civilization. Looks like someone's been bad at civilization but for some reason never realized exact nature of problem.

>>21025946
They are the dumb iconoclastic Christian mob

>>21027095
So am I and half the country, retard. Pedigree collapse is a bitch.

>>21026229
From the movie Thalasso (2019)

>>21026593
>I don’t know who Ezra Pound i
kys

>>21026607
>Also, I’ve been on this site since 2008
Not on /lit/, that's for sure.

>>21027207
What if you just had a hyper advanced faction of a civilization who used their resources to keep everyone else at caveman level.

Jannies, please show these illiterates the way to the showers

>>21027207
You’re not a serious person.

>>21026009
>crypto-commie
For those who confuse Bolshevism with communism

>>21025958
People will say yes, but I don't think so. People still place themselves on the left or right in relation to the economic left or social right, but in my mind it's pretty clear now with the 20th century in our rearview that to even enter a paradigm that subordinates politics to economic or social dichotomies is probably inherently progressive and thus left-wing no matter what. And what use does a technological civilization have for these anyway? The elite in a technological civilization will necessarily always be technocrats. So what are you conserving? Just one or another variant of industry.

>>21027655
>>21025958
Chomsky is

>>21027691
Chomsky's just a basic liberal, he only seems conservative because anyone who doesn't shill miscegenation in a Pepsi advertisement in 2022 seems conservative. Chomsky is a vote blue no matter who guy, even.

>>21027691
>>21027693
I can't think of anything Chomsky wouldn't do for a $100 bill... which is the hallmark of a liberal

>>21027739
That's not true, he requires at least a million dollars to be deposited in the offshore tax shelter trust fund of his nepotistically well-promoted Jewish daughters

>>21027751
So a real conservative.

>>21025958
Like national… socialism?

>>21027767
You can keep the neocons and the Chomskies

>>21025995
>globohomo
Irrelevant nation cope

>>21027810
Only liberals praise globohomo.

>>21026234
cringe

>>21025946
Directionbrain.

>>21026234
Schizo writers are the coolest.

>>21025946
>no real scottsman fallacy
Dropped

>>21026546
Have you sifted through the things the FBI considers to be "right wing terror"? They classified a couple with neo-nazi tattoos robbing a convenience store as a right wing terror attack. By the same metric, "black nationalist" terror attacks should be the #1 threat to the US, but for some reason those are just treated as crime and not domestic terrorism.

>>21025946
most hangmen were normal people doing a job.

>>21025993
Oh here you fucking go regurgitating Gordon Wood again

>>21027874
Terror attacks are determined by motivation and intent.

>>21028134
This. This is why Susan Rosenberg isn't a terrorist by the way. Chuds love to bring her up when they whine about being called terrorists, but technically she isn't.

>>21028134
BLM spread more terror than some faggots robbing a store.

>>21028171
>somebody kneels at the magic flag ceremony
TERRORIST

>>21028177
>burning buildings is not a terrorist act
kys

>>21027874
>>21028171
>trying to engage honestly with people who have shown they are nothing but unscrupulous swine
shiggy, my dood
just laugh at them

>>21028180
motivation and intent, what are they?

>>21028185
>not telling anon that whataboutism does be a logical phallus
I shiggy your diggy

>>21028274
>The term ‘anarcho-tyranny’ was coined in the 1990s by Samuel Francis, who argued it reconciled civil disorder with oppressive government. As he wrote, anarcho-tyranny is “the combination of oppressive government power against the innocent and the law-abiding and, simultaneously, a grotesque paralysis of the ability or the will to use that power to carry out basic public duties such as protection or public safety.” A follower of James Burnham, Francis believed that the “managerial revolution” established the sociological, economic, and cultural conditions for anarcho-tyranny. He emphasized our dependence on bureaucrats and experts, which resulted in a “managed pacification” and the “usurpation of previous autonomous social functions.” Anarcho-tyranny as a natural outgrowth of modern bureaucracy. Bureaucrats engineer a “fake problem” to perform “fictitious functions” to “foster the illusion that the state is doing its job.”

Anarcho-tyranny is at its clearest in criminality and law enforcement. When crime is a leading public concern, civil authorities will “change subtly the definition of crime by expanding it to include the innocent and the law-abiding, and to avoid any serious challenge to real criminals.” This functions by creating easy targets to prove that they are “doing something,” while leaving alone the real criminals, thus forming a feedback loop: “The anarchy that anarcho-tyranny breeds thus serves as the rationale for the tyranny it builds.”

The anarcho-tyranny of Francis’ days however has morphed into something more sinister. The pacification, the feedback loop, the fake problems, and the targeting of innocents remain, but the relation of anarchy and tyranny has evolved into a method to oppress political enemies.

>>21025946
>ME NO LIKE THE OTHER SIDE! THEY BAD! ME NO LIKE THE OTHER SIDE! THEY BAD!

>>21028366
motivation and intent, not didn't read lmao

>>21028274
>what are they?
Terrorize police departments

>>21025946
Because leftism has become a mental illness. All of them are obsessed.

>>21028378
More Samuel Francis for those who can read and are interested

https://counter-currents.com/2022/04/remembering-sam-francis-2/

https://counter-currents.com/2021/05/sam-francis-beautiful-losers/

>>21028366
Are you that guy with the youtube channel?

>>21025946
Im not mad!! Im laughing on the way to the gallows. Im not mad. Dont post that I got mad

>>21028366

I did read the post, and I understand the post in itself. It does not pertain

>>21028390
Not you though, you're so marvelously well balanced.

>>21028134
Yeah, exactly. A white guy robbing a gas station with a swastika tattooed on his head doesn't intend to "cause violence or intimidation for political aims" any more than the black guy who robbed the liquor store down the street, so why is one a terrorist but the other is not?

>>21025958
Don't know, but I'm the same way. It's why I argue with all my left and right wing friends.

>>21026614
>he said
>aggressively

>>21025946
The leftists I know are lighthearted and enjoy their lives. The right wingers I know are bitter, hostile, aggressive, full of resentment.

>>21028770
>happy communists
doubt it

>>21028770
>you really think a leftie would do that?
>just go on the internet and tell ideologically convenient lies?

>>21027751
he prefers cash nowadays

>>21028809
You shouldn’t
>>21028822
Have a book

>>21029782
Before I read it I must ask: Is it delusional utopian cultist shit, or is he at least somewhat realistic?
Another thing I will say is I sympathize with the more intelligent leftists. Very rare these days. My points of agreement are in the problems, however, I disagree with their solutions.
A more accurate way to put it is I think they see the symptoms of the disease, but they misdiagnose the disease, thus the treatment they prescribe doesn't work.

>>21025995
t. 3way mutt made up of WHG, anatolian farmers and swarthy steppe pastoralists

>>21025958
Maybe in eastern Europe

>>21028770
The leftists and right wingers you know are abnormal then. Polls show the religious, who are the right wing power base in western nations, have significantly higher life satisfaction than the non-religious.

>>21029896
It's simple utopian comfy sweet. It makes an effort to explain how they get there, but that's not the point, it's the vision the socialists have had all this time. Not gulags, not 1984, or whatever it is they teach you people. No attempting this isn't impossible and always leads to the USSR, that's not what happened at all.
The point is we're not nihilist robots, that's cubical drones or NEETs who wish for a real anime waifu.
The solutions are simple enough when you can diagnose what exactly is wrong. It's not just capitalism.

>>21029782
Really, anon. This sounds like pure cult delusion. Similar to atheists - communists don't seem to realize that they're in a cult because they follow in the same tradition of the atheists who have made their motto: "This is not a religion."
Communists tweak it and instead say: "Our system is based on science."
>what? how can our utopian dreams of a promised land be cultist delusion? Marx said he used science to scry! and since he says it's scientific - it must be
The problem is their view of science is warped and more resembles scientism with Marx as their "scientific" prophet. He may not have meant to, but he did create a cult. Complete with self-fulfilling prophecies of revolution and all.
>>21026228

>>21029932
I completely agree that things can be better. On a fundamental level - ignoring other points of contention for now - there is one fatal point of contention I run into with leftists. On a very fundamental level this is what bothers me the most.
The dissonance of the dogma. It is dogma, but within the dogma is the insistence that it isn't dogma, but also any counter-dogma must be destroyed, but communist dogma totally isn't dogma. There's dissonance there. If you have a religion you have to call it a religion. An all encompassing ideology complete with prophets who tell the future is a religion - whether you like it or not.
You even call each other "comrade" and view any who oppose your grand utopian vision as heretics who oppose God himself. It's batshit.
>Not gulags, not 1984, or whatever it is they teach you people
Really, you can't hear it because you're a member - but you sound exactly like a Scientologist explaining that outsiders have their group all wrong. That it totally isn't a cult.
Communism is political scientology.

>>21026237
>there's nothing wrong with the gays getting married, it would bring them equality and make them happy
>no, they're not going to promote transgenderism in kids, that's just a conspiracy theory
>the slippery slope doesn't exist

>>21029970
No, fool, I'm a natural free thinking person. The cultists are those trapped in a cage. You're born there and will live your whole life and die there not knowing what a natural free life was about.

>Dissonance
I am not troubled with a dogma. These things of the free world were not laid down by an authority but found in nature. I am following nature. Not Marx or Lenin or some social system from the pst or present. The only system is nature. Am I worshiper of nature now? Or is it of science? It is atheist, it is Epicurean, I can admit to that. It isn't cult, whether you like it or not. Comrade or brother or friend is a nice and equal honorific used instead of sir. That's all that came from.
>Outsiders
I am an outsider of civilization, though I wander about it's dying surface

>>21030264
Good to have you back, Butterfly.

>>21025946
Leftists are hyper-estrogenized, fearful little narcissists.

>>21026237
How's 8th grade?

>>21030289
No no. We've already snuffed OP out as a false assumption. Go back.

>>21026546
>Data: the investigative fund
>radical muslims are the same as Trump supporters
Nice source, tranny.

>>21030307
Do you have brain damage? Go watch videos of antifa cucks getting their heads kicked in by a couple dudes in ball caps when they tried to do black mask protests in the suburbs. Leftist men are effeminate weaklings with the arms of a child, assuming they hadn't already converted, in that case they'd be a fat predator in a dress. Meanwhile the women are the most horrendous bulldykes or mentally ill harpies. There are chemicals in the water and food, microplastics, frequencies from technology that lower T. This is all well documented if you really delve into it.

>>21025946
>The true Right is never so grim
The true right is a bunch of unfuckable incel losers who spend their limited time on earth posting collective cope to each other.

>>21030339
>thinks the 5 dudes on lit bullying him/her represents the true right wing
Sounds like you're projecting some insecurities there, sweetie.

>>21030333
>What makes leftists aggressive
>Bullies beat up kids in masks for supporting Bernie Sanders
You're a narcissist

>>21029929
Right wingers have more sex, are happier, more attractive, have a higher median household income, are more independent. Leftists are just pussies epitomizing petty bourgeois cancer they wish to oppress.

>>21030264
Alright, if you want to play the 'schizo-outsider-who-sees-the-system-maaaan' dick measuring contest game - you have no idea, my man.
Something I have learned is this idealism has to be tempered. The sleepers are not builders. They will never be builders. It is something that took me a long time to accept - but it has to be accepted. If you follow nature and what may lay within and without us (God, the life spirit, whatever you want to call it) then you have to accept all of its laws. Some of these laws are harsh. Some of them are hierarchical and unfair.
Christ is known as the good shepherd - because people are sheep who need to be led and he led them in earnest. There are snakes and bad shepherds who must be opposed at all costs. We are currently being led by bad shepherds, no doubt about it - but Marx, leftism, etc. will not yield a good shepherd. It sounds nice. But that's entirely the problem. It's surface level nice. It's Plato's sweet shop owner. If you are swept away in this candy cane forest idealism you are susceptible to the demons. They will use your naivete against you. It is not an accurate reflection of reality. It is shallow and without depth. The depths are fucking terrifying - and unless your philosophy takes those terrifying depths into account you will set those demons free and they will fuck your shit sideways for being so ignorant as to think they do not exist.
You have to discriminate. You do not give a power tool to a kid with downs syndrome. Is that unfair? Some may say so, because we let others use power tools - what about equality? Why not the downie? Because it would be a fucking disaster.
>The only system is nature
If you truly mean this you must accept nature for her darkness and her light - because she doesn't give a shit if you think her darkness is too dark.

>>21029897
>t. Antiwhite literal nigger
Kill yourself ASAP, chimp.

>>21030347
>projekshun
Wow well done nigger you really got to me. Remain in the hell of your own creation, but know that you may exit at any time.

>>21030358
Sure fits the bill for every /pol/nigger I've ever seen.
Cope is unreal

>>21030350
Antifa are violent communists, i dont care who they supported, they are there for violence. Ya, some probably like (((bernie))) since he appeals to 14 year olds and millenial losers. Leftists are purwly narcissists, they hold their values for social purposes, except for the really young ones who are just stupid and going through a cringe phase.

>>21030380
Yes, I know multiple people irl who use pol, many are in their 30s with families and a house.

>>21030385
Same

>>21030385
OK nigger sure

>>21030394
Sorry i talk to people and you dont i guess. Maybe work on yourself? Dont be ashamed of your ugly dark skin and simian features.

>>21030402
OK nigger for sure

>>21030385
>>21030402
>I know people with houses and I talk to people
Jesus fucking Christ this is "haircut person" tier

>>21030381
Anitfa that are genuine are people opposed to fascism. Captain America is Antifa, Indiana Jones is Antifa. Patriotic Americans are supposed to be Antifa.
But we have foot age of agent provocateurs in masks do nefarious shit and they've been called Antifa. Burning a building down to help stir the chaos isn't an Antifa action.
Protest movements are always telling these masked divisions to do no violence, but in recent years the feds have egged them on and posed as them to give the rightwing something to swing at. They feds don't want a labor movement uniting these people. Which almost happened during lockdown.
Just mostly FYIing

>>21030407
>>21030415
You understand I'm talking about poltards, right? The ones i know irl almost all have houses, wives, families, etc. So your point is idiotic, you're probably brown.

>>21030430
Wow feds have infiltrated the communist group of violent masked retards? Guess im antifa now! Thats so le based, your right, the evil capitalists are funding us with billions of dollars just to stop le revolution, which will bring about a communist utopia where race doesnt matter myan. Huhuh. Pass the weed dude, and check your privilege. Fuck nazis! Were just like le indiana jones and captain marvel who were also fighting white supremist Drumpf!!

>>21027123
>anarchism, socialism and many other isms were created by the same people who created capitalism, let that sink in
what did the Dutch have to do with anarchism and socialism?

>>21030449
>he thinks Jewish banking elite were Dutch
Why are you even here?

>>21030451
> Jewish banking elite
Look up who build the first stock exchange and when before you dare replying to me again in such an embarrassing fashion

>>21030461
>doesn't know how stock markets work

>>21030468
Do you?

>>21025946
What people colloquially call "leftism" in the west is an ideological descendant of early 20th century anglo liberalism (among many others) which itself was the descendant of anglo protestantism and the american evangelical and puritanical tradition. It's a combination of the former's smugness and cynicism and the eschatological vision and zeal of the latter.

I think it also has to do with not being a boilerplate liberal (an umbrella under which even neocons would belong to, despite what most americans would think) being something you have to willfully do rather than being something you can "slip into" through "lack of virtue" (though there are plenty of stories of "conversion" about badthinkers becoming good libs) or something you can be through ignorance. From the moment of your birth you are bombarded with the ideology of lukewarm western liberalism to the complete exclusion of everything else, so when you reject those values and views, it is something you do of your own volition. You "sin" willfully, rather than accidentally. Which makes that sin all the more grave in their eyes.

>>21030945
All of this is to say that the particular lefty tone of indignation that the author is alluding to has always had a very strong religious tone to it in my view. Like Moses smashing the tablets upon seeing the people worship the golden calf, or seeing themselves as a Jeremiah preaching in vain.

>>21025946
The all just get off on having a sense of "power". It's like the whole idea of how powr corrupts. They're the mainstream norm now as much as they like to act that they aren't. So they do anything that they can to bully and intimidate (through cancelling) to retain that sense of power they are getting high off of