/lit/ - Literature

>>21011642
Why did you delete the other thread?

What about a crusade to the holy land, led by unfettered protagonist and a world that reverses all you know about a Tolkien elves?

>>21011642
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57747/simulacrum-heavens-key

Watching HotD is making me sad that WoW isn't out yet
I thought I was over it bros...

>try to read scifi book
>author uses made up words and names that are hard to read an pronounce
>close book
Why do authors do this? Nothing puts of a book more than. The words never sound right and you struggle each time you see them.

>>21007345
It's an excellent work of fiction, if not the best thing Wolfe every wrote

>>21011702
Give examples.

>>21011676
ngl even if you didn't attach the image I'd still say this sounds uninteresting

What about a crusade to recover gems made of treelight stolen by Satan himself?

read cradle

>>21011708
A memory called Emire. I see it the time in books though. Why can't they just name people John and Mary?

I'm having a great time with my reread!! It has definitely been 8-10 years or perhaps add another, since I've read this, much longer than my first mention of this book 6 years ago. I'm maybe 25% through now.
>overwhelming sense of empathy and secondhand anxiety when criminal MC has his pants torn in a chase and accidentally loses a speeding ticket, with his personal information, at the crime scene
I'd love to discuss the book more but woe, it isn't one of the same 15 series endlessly circlejerked so this post will see 0 replies until page 10. :)

>>21011794
>book with names that are either russian or aztec
Are you baiting?

She ruled supreme over Wolfe

>>21011864
I don't want to read books where I spend most of my time srugglng to understand made up words and names.

>>21011898
You know you don't have to pronounce things to read them, right? Just mentally substitute a nickname or something if it really bothers you that much.

what harlan ellison stories are worth reading? only checked out i have no mouth... and one where humans end up fucking aliens for all eternity because they have magical vaginas or something

there's an edgy one i'm looking for where some guy gets trapped in the sun if anyone knows the name

>>21012195
>You know you don't have to pronounce things to read them, right? Just mentally substitute a nickname or something if it really bothers you that much.

>Just don't care and half-ass everything
NGMI
What a disgusting attitude to reading

>>21012341
>He has to read aloud

>>21012202
I liked the one where the guy goes out for a Sunday drive with his wife and then they get hassled by some punks in another car so he calls up the highway patrol and gets permission to car duel the punks to the death.

>>21011642
I was involved in this job.
Can I have your phone number?

>>21012341
are you seriously enunciating every single word aloud inside your head when you read?

>>21011642
Does it actually tell a good story or is it a self-indulgent wankfest?

>>21012721
It’s a very good story yes. It wouldn’t be memed as much if it wasn’t good grimdark

>>21012721
>>21012747
>dude the honey of unwashed anuses
>dude a hundred pages of a wizard spy and his whore girlfriend (black seed)
>dude le barbarian chad hero is actually gay
do people actually take this shit seriously?

>>21012751
>do people actually take this shit seriously?
Why, do you take any fantasy seriously?

>>21012721
People here seem to like it.

>“What sect is it this time? If any of you know, speak quickly.”
>“Its the He Huan Sect. I know that slut, Wang Ying. As long as she appears within 100 feet of me, I can
smell her stench…”
>“That is correct. That is the He Huan Sect.”
>As people talked, the faces of the two Nascent Soul cultivators of the He Huan Sect, Cheng Huan and
Why aren't you reading Xianxia

>>21013074
>Why aren't you reading Xianxia
because I'm bored of reading protags who are stronger than everyone else because of magical bullshit

>>21013088
>stronger than everyone else...At/near their cultivation level, and plot armored from people at much higher levels.
ftfy

>>21013098
Yeah that's the thing, if you're gonna write a 10,000 chapter work why not just have a protag who succeeds against people of the same 'power level' because of skill and guile but they literally always attach either some special object or some magical core or whatever that suppresses everyone else of the same level

>>21013098
>>21013112
And lord of the rings sucks because sauron didn't just kill dildo faggins right after he started walking in the hobbit.
The point of Xianxia is to read for reading’s sake, and to train your reading muscles. Things like imagining are demonic and should be done as little as possible.

Thoughts? At the onset I'm suspicious of his idea of creating a world first, character second.

I started reading some male oriented erotic fiction and it's quite good... besides the sex. Somehow it manages to be better than most other recently published "actual" books I've have read.

>>21013227
>besides the sex
sure

>>21013227
>furry shit
>romance
Go back

I'm looking through my Kindle deciding what to read next and there's a little thing with dots that roughly indicates the size of the books, and I suddenly noticed that The Name of the Wind was nearly as big as the book that contains the entire Malazan series. Can anyone confirm if that's true, is The Name of the Wind really that fucking long and it's only the first entry in its series? And don't worry, I don't intend to actually read it. I downloaded it years ago to see why it's so heavily mocked around here and was instantly put off by the writing within the first few pages. I only just now noticed it's still on my Kindle.

>>21013331
No that’s not correct. It just might be poor file size management.

>>21013112
That's the best part, you get to see all the crazy bullshit powerups they get througout the novel and still they aren't even close to the strongest being until the very end, if they ever get there.

>>21013227
>I started reading some male oriented erotic fiction and it's quite good... besides the sex. Somehow it manages to be better than most other recently published "actual" books I've have read.
Go read Blue Core. A nice story to one of the best sex scenes I've seen written. Plus fox girl.

>>21013439
Garbage

>>21011642
First for women authors are actually good

>>21013519
Coldfire trilogy doesn't get enough love, if you love BOTNS you will love this as well.

how do i improve my retention/memory

>>21013616
Fujos make powerful media. Nothing can satisfy their lust for high quality man on man action.

ok im gonna give elric a go
better not be as much of a dissapointement as red rising or the powder mages, the two worst suggestions i got from /ssfg/ so far

should i just read the elric books in release order?

>Reading book with the main character having an actually cute and lovable love interest for once
>She's killed off and replaced with a bitchy independent used goods girl
I hate this.

>>21013714
who

>>21013655
Chronological
Elric of Melnibone
Fortress of the Pearl
Sailor of the Seas of Fate
Weird of the White Wolf
Vanishing Tower
Vengeance of the Rose
The Bane of the Black Sword
Stormbringer
>>21013714
I like bitchy women

>>21013714
independent used goods girls rule supreme

>>21013714
Same, i remember reading this ya fantasy book where the mc gets with his grandpa's ex childhood gf who's stuck in a timeloop.
The first trilogy is all about their romance but in the second trilogy the author torpedos that romance since his wife got jealous and he made her a self insert that got with the protag of the story.

>>21013714
name?

Just finished this.

Probably the worst "book" I have ever read.

>>21013632
>how do i improve my retention/memory
Read things you want to read. I cant remember anything, I can read a full non-fiction book and dont remember shit, but give me one trashy fantasy and I will remember the overall plot 10 years later.

>>21013871
...and that's what led me to the vtuber life.

>>21013983
what was so bad about it? was it worse than children of dune or chapterhouse?

>>21011702
>for he is the Grok Gormenghast
>>21013983
I swear this book is only popular because of that redditor chart. No wonder almost every Dune "fan" quits after finishing the God Emperor.

>>21014257
Are you saying people who read up to that book and stop are not Dune "fans" or people who keep going to that book are the fake Dune "fans" because the earlier ones are better? I"m genuinely trying to understand.

>>21013983
it's the best for me

>>21014055
chapterhouse has hot milfs near your area so it get a pass

>>21014010
what if i read something i want to read but only remember the overall plot line 6 months later

>>21014055
It's mostly just Leto II lying there, pontificating and flapping his tail around. To its credit, it aims high and just throws one roundhouse after the next. But that's its flaw, a mortal man writing a god. When I say this to people they say, well in fiction you can be a man and write a woman, you can be a jew and write an arab...but the difference here is not just in kind but in order. I like the book and would recommend to anyone who makes it that far, but its reach exceeds its grasp and structurally must.

>>21013263
>>21013498
Erotic literature is unironically one of the best genres to read currently. For some reason it seems all this culture war shit didn't touch it as deeply as all the other genres.
And, for someone who is just sick of it all, it comes as a breath of fresh air.

>>21014399
>and structurally must.
what does must mean here?

>>21011781
This would be so fucking epic to see adapted.

>>21013650
Welp now i lost all interest

>>21012886
Never read Bakker
Never read Tolkien
Unimpressed by Wolfe

>>21013650
That's proof that Friedman is a good writer, yes she is a horny fujo but the plot of Coldfire is amazing

>>21014405
So what, even if its old school conservative non progressive lit its still erotic coomer garbage.

>>21014431
unfortunately you'd just get ROPe

>>21013519
Nice cover.

>>21014554
>Never read
what does read mean here?

>>21014692
lol oh. I guess that's confusing. I meant "I never read Bakker". Read as in red

>>21014415
I mean the disparity between author and character is unavoidable because we can't bring in a god to write the god parts.

>>21014765
Why not?

>>21014405
any good reccs? also are we talking good like actually good or just good like inoffensive mindless entertainment?

>>21014773
>Chad Emperor of Dune
I'd buy it.

>>21014672
i like the sword wielding werecat

>>21014775
Yah good as in "Inoffensive" mindless entertainment, nothing actually "good" good.
But if you want good good you can reread the classics. Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser comes to mind.

>>21014580
These are a bunch of buzzwords that make little to no sense together in the order they are in.

>>21014801
cute blade you have there be a shame if he turned into an undead haha

>>21014818
>mindless entertainment
I’d be ok with that given how much of fantasy these days is edgelord and/or woke

About halfway through Urth of the New Sun,
>...it seemed to me that my acts toward women had depended not upon my will, but upon their attitude toward me. I had been brutal enough with the khaibit Thecla of the House Azure, then as mild and clumsy as any untouched by with the real Thecla in her cell; fevered at first with Dorcas, quick and clumsy with Jolenta (whom I might have been said to have raped, though I believed then and believe still that she wished it).
So why did some anon shit on me for "repeating what you've heard instead of actually reading" when I asked why he did that a couple weeks ago? Severian clearly agrees with my assessment.

I need sci-fi with a "women are literally scum of the earth" theme

wuxia/xianxia fox spirit kino?

Any sci-fi stories for a loser going through an existential crisis seriously contemplating suicide?

>>21015098
my life 2077 the book

I love fantasy!

>>21014818
>These are a bunch of buzzwords that make little to no sense together in the order they are in
coomer is the keyword, being a coomer is not something to be proud of, when you are called out as coomer you pretend not to hear it or understand, it suddenly makes no sense to you, just like when a pervert or a thief is called out in public they plead ignorance and then just hide. You are a coomer, yet you present yourself as someone trustworthy, who really knows what good literature is, you are recommending erotic lit to people who might not know better and make claims like "it's actually good and untouched by culture war" but at the same time you want to waste peoples time by getting them to read trash or worse turn then into degenerate coomers like yourself. Coomer lit is not good literature, it's garbage, just because a piece of garbage was not touched by culture wars doesn't mean it suddenly stopped being garbage. I see through your tricks, you filthy coomer! you are not fooling anyone, you are not welcome here, GET OUT from board this board!

>>21013227
Is there any version of this type of story where the MC isn't a scrawny hand-wringing pussy when compared to his love interest?

>>21014405
you could always just read da classics
old campy pulp is a dime a dozen on gutenberg

>>21014775
Neural Wraith is great, barely even cooler lit, much more just a scifi story with cute robutts.
Saving Superheroes is also pretty good.

>>21012798
My fantasy has great fights, great alpha, sigma and based men. Any sort of degenrocy is not even held by the antagonist, greet men fighting each other with great powers and cool stuff

>>21013331
i have noticed files sizes all over the place for epub's and mobi's
dont think too hard about it, its not even to do with illustrations half the time

>>21014775
I like Mike Truk's work. World building and writing is actually decent, mc"s are actually characters that develop over time, and woman for the most part don't just fall in love and suck the mc's cock at first sight.

>>21013519
thats not robin hobb

>>21016010
absolutely based

>>21014282
I'm saying how could one be a Dune fan without reading every Frank Herbert Dune novel? There's only six of them. You can read them all in three months tops.
>>21014886
Not this shit again... Having sex with unconcious women is rape regardless of what Severian thinks. He is clumsy with strong women because he is only confident when it comes to rough sex because sex is one of his torture devices. Furthermore, I can't stop thinking about the newly hatched chicken between Jolenta's legs.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1662807022913180.webm

When i started reading webnovels on Royal Road back in 2013 i really didn't expect it to get so popular. Legendary Moonlight Sculptor is basically irrelevant now.
It's honestly great a narou type site exists in english.

>>21013519
Fantasy literature has been written by too many women and faggots.

>dude what if aragorn was evil
>dude what if the dark lord was ayys
>dude what if elves were insane
>dude what if orcs were coomers
>dude what if all that plus the crusades

>>21016461
Then the winged hussars arrived?

read cradle

>>21014886
do people actually read this shit and spout it as good?
why do people praise wolfes prose so much, its fucking shit

>>21016529
let's see you're prose

>>21016461
sounds like the best fantasy series of all time

>>21016544
>Having walked by shop windows, mirrors and gates -- and it was cold -- she pushed a heavy door. Barely open, it closed with a bang. We climbed the stairs. I followed her footsteps. The walls seemed high. She said it was blocks with nothing but offices. No one was there at night. At the top of the stairs she opened a wooden door that led to a corridor. In the corridor was a small washbasin. And toilets. We went on down the long narrow corridor. It seemed we must be a long way from the street. Then we stopped in front of another door and she gestured for me to go in.

>I found myself in a room carved out of nothing. I felt the icy cold. It's a rectangle, a window at the far end, yellowing walls. 'J'-habite ici.' I was standing. She picked up a saucepan, poured in some alcohol and lit it. We stood watching the fire on the ground, the struggle, then deaththroes of the last darting flames. She told me she had seen some cockfights in Andalusia. 'La chauleur ne dure pas longtemps.' And she had something Spanish about her, something ancient, something ecclesiastic. The blaze of heat died and the cold of the mountain tops and the glaciers swept down.

>A bulb hung from the ceiling. She offered me the only seat. Under the bulb. She picked up a gnawed candle (was she living on wax?) and lit it with a match. The wick was buried. Her eyes, which took no light from the trembling flame, were bright, calm beneath, lacquered, alien. Her face was partly hidden by her hood, it could have been a veil of marble wrapped around her. Her beauty hadn't left her. Nor her determination. She looked at me with irony, challenge almost.

>>21016689
10/10. i apologise for ever doubting you.

>>21016689
is this AI generated

>>21016461
Books for this feel?

>Nervous nose, twitching in the cold air. Arched windowpanes letting in the chilling breeze of the winter night in early spring. Furred feet slide expertly across marble floor; not for show, but out of necessity. This orphan's threadbare socks can't be taken off.

Why don't more novels feature furry characters?

>>21016756

That’s one cute marten.

how was tywin able to name tyrion the hand of the king? He had no legal right

>>21017054
That's a good question. I guess since tyrion was only acting hand and a war was going on, plus Joeffrey's claim was entirely backed by tywin. So no one questioned it

>>21017054
legalism means nothing if the people with power want something to happen

Which order should I read the Elric of Melnibone series? I just finished Elric of Melnibone. I've seen people recommend this order:

>Elric of Melnibone
>The Fortress of the Pearl
>The Sailor on the Seas of Fate
>The Weird of the White Wolf
>The Sleeping Sorceress
>The Revenge of the Rose
>The Bane of the Black Sword
>Stormbringer

>>21016713
I'll take that as a compliment.

>>21016461
>dude what if orcs were coomers
Yes
What is some good elf-rape kino

>>21011690
>Watching HotD is making me sad that WoW isn't out yet
6 days until WotLK classic

>>21013655
>>21013742
>>21017107
oh, didn't see this

>>21016461
You can put "dude what if" followed by a snarky reductionist remark, to literally anything. You're not actually saying anything.

>>21016756
No need. Redwall mogs any potential furry literature.

>>21017054
They literally discuss this in the book lmao. Its one of the first things Cersei throws at Tyrion when he arrives in Kings Landing. The answer is that Tywin has all the soldiers.

>Sex Scene

Dropped

>>21017054
When asked such a question as this my only response can be to, in turn, ask

>What are you gonna do about it, bitch?

>>21016689
wtf is this. those sentences are way too short, this is so stale to read.

>>21017054
the queen regent is literally his daughter

>>21016461
Good ideas do not have to be original.

>>21016689
The short sentences sound way too stilted. Breaks up the flow to add seemingly pointless details.
>In the corridor was a small washbasin. And toilets.

>>21012202
Deathbird

>>21011690
>>21017336
>He plays video games
>He plays WoW

>Trying to write whacky and insane, out there fantasy and sci fi stories
>Have trouble writing them because they seem more suited for a visual medium
What do I do?

>>21017986
You've made three threads about this, fuck off, you no life shitter.

>>21017986
You're a talentless hack.

>>21017986
stop writing what happens in the world and start writing what the character is thinking, feeling, hearing, experiencing

>>21017986
What mental illness is this?

>>21018004
The one where someone thinks that they will become a writer.

Is there anything better than a bittersweet ending in which the protagonist manages to accomplish his goals but the loss and suffering he endured have left him marked for life?

Which of these is good?

>>21017780
Based

>>21018131
None.

>>21018131
Can't you just read them and form your own opinion? Is reading really that difficult for you?

>>21018131
Hidden tower is not bad
Paranoid mage
Avoid legend of arch magus and mother of learning

>>21013742
>Vengeance of the Rose
Revenge of The Rose, pal... also do you know a new elric is due this december?
>>21013655
>dissapointement as red rising or the powder mages
mmmh? I was in the process to read a number of reinassance/age of discokvery/gunpowder etcetera fantasy fiction that i still have to pinpoint and select. I was thinking about books by guy gavriel kay, the powder mage series, Djiango Wexlers's books...mmmh what else... His Majesty's Dragon and other that don't come to my mind atm.
Why PowdMage is a disappointment for you?

Coomer lit is better than jap and chink lit.
There I said it.
Wuxian and xianxia and all of that other shit is just unbearable to read. Maybe there is some merit to those work as entertainment IF they were read in their original language... maybe.
Fuck all those anon who recommended chink shit over here and made me waste my time reading pure garbage and fuck me for going along with the "don't worry it get better after 500 chapter or so trust me dude"

>>21018181
ok coomer.

>>21018131
Vigils Justice. Herald of Shalia

>>21018131
Read it and enjoyed it but it started dragging: Mother of Learning and Beware of Chicken
Read it and it was dogshit:
Worth the Candle
Looked into it and decided that it looked bad:
Solo Levelling, Hidden Tower, Defiance of the Fall, Legend of Arch Magus

>>21018181
>Fuck all those anon who recommended chink shit over here and made me waste my time reading pure garbage and fuck me for going along with the "don't worry it get better after 500 chapter or so trust me dude"
What did you read?

What's up with this guy who decides to try and force some absolute dogshit subgenre every 3 months?

>>21018239
Chink shit, can't you read his post?

>>21018243
yes, what specific novel(s) did you read?

>>21018248
He read chink shit, how many more times does someone need to repeat it, for you to understand?

>>21018242
I just think they wants to feel validated or something for liking something /sffg/ doesn’t like. Really stupid if you ask me, just read things you like.

Shit thread

>>21018266
Retards keep responding to shitposters. Newfags reply to newfags reply to newfags reply to

what are some fantasy novels with this aesthetic

>>21018131
As some who reads webnovels and read most of these, the chart is fucking dogshit, the quality and genres vary extremely between those stories.

for anybody who reads trashy wish fulfillment power fantasy, it's out

>>21018285
No face no fap

>>21018450
>hides face
>those shoulders
>flat chest
>dat chin
It's a guy.

>read a new Orson Scott Card series (surely this one will be different)
>underage naked male character and Mormonism as a mandatory features

Orson please stop.

>>21018482
ywnbaw tranny

>>21018437
>the quality and genres vary extremely between those stories
What have it away? The big white texts that says varying forms of Quality?

>>21016037
Robin Hobb is better than most of the writers posted here
>>21018131
none

>>21018176
been a long time since i read elric and i only read half the DAW novels but didnt elric die at the end of stormbringer? how are more stories post stormbringer coming out? are they set between the dreaming city and stormbringer?

>>21018539
>are they set between the dreaming city and stormbringer?
Yes
>Elric along with his companion Moonglum return, in this prequel set within the early days of Elric’s wanderings, in order to investigate the history of Melniboné and its dragons, known as the Phroon, in this exciting new addition to the Elric Saga from World Fantasy Lifetime Achievement Award winner Michael Moorcock.

>>21018239
>>21018248
I Shall Seal the Heavens, Against the Gods, Martial God Asura and some other shit that was shilled here. These are the ones that stuck out to me as specially bad despite some guys telling me "no bro it gets better just read a few more chapters bro trust me."

>>21018616
>Shall Seal the Heavens, Against the Gods, Martial God Asura
Why? We've been very consistent saying RI and LotM are the only two actually good xiaxias. The rest are, at best, mildly entertaining.

>>21018630
Reverend Insanity is shit as well.

>>21018663
Filtered says what?

>>21018630
Reverent Insanity!!! that was the other one read. Completely forgot the name and everything about it, but granted I gave up about 20 chapters in instead of 300 or 600.
No I'm not going to read any more of it. It isn't good either.
This sort of literature is literally bottom of the barrel stuff, even smut is above it. Why do you guys keep shilling it?

>>21018671
Because it's the pinnacle of western literature.

>>21018671
>I gave up about 20 chapters in instead of 300 or 600.
I gave up when the MC was nothing more than an edgelord that would make Shadow the hedgehog cringe. Anyways, just ignore the fags that recommends Xianxia, it’s that simple. Especially the fag that shills Reverend Insanity every thread like a bot.

>>21018131
I haven't read nearly all of those but I can say of the ones I have read that're there, MoL is pretty good by the back half, though it suffers a lot early on Reincarnated as a Farmer is charming and overall competent though I think it's not quite for me, it's very much a half-parodic book about 'gaming the system', I enjoyed Tower of Somnus well enough but it is objectively not very well-written and kind of doesn't DO a lot with its own concept at least in the first book, the idea of a shared MMO with a bunch of aliens is cool and it does SO little with it besides "hey here's THIS species and ALL of them dislike humans because humans really suck at presenting anything but the worst aspects of themselves", Primal Hunter is solid, I wouldn't call it great, but it's at least good, has a likeable enough protagonist though it's probably one of the most blatant power fantasies on there, Full Murderhobo is funny-ish, but somehow manages to kind of do a whole lot of nothing because it spreads itself too thin (there's three main POVs and arguably four protagonists and so much of their actual growth is time-skipped that the only one you can really follow the growing up of is Luke whose entire arc is "Castaway but LitRPG"). I've read a couple others on that list but they're not mentioned for a reason. There's a couple on there that I HAVE but haven't gotten around to reading yet, like Battle Mage Farmer and Herald of Shalia, but we'll see when we see.

>>21018671
>Why do you guys keep shilling it?
Why'd you read it in the first place?

I know nobody asked for this, but here. It's a pretty good book. Not very outdated despite being old.

>>21018834
You're right, nobody asked for this.

>>21018901
Here's another one. This one's low effort, what most people apparently want them to look like.

>>21018834
>>21018913
Can’t imagine wasting my times on these.

>>21018925
This is the second most productive thing I've done today.

>>21018929
That's really depressing

>>21018795
Same reason I read bakker, every time I ask for a recommendation on any genre these guys say "you should read this book it's the best thing since sliced bread". I don't like bakker but i can say he is a million time better than xianxia shit at least his prose is good and not google translated form Chinese.

>>21018943
Can't you just read what you like? I don't understand this weird ass mindset. I read things that interest me, I never need to ask recommendations.

>>21018834
>>21018913
You want us to praise you for spending five minutes on MS paint?

>>21018954
I don't. It will be worth it if someone someday picks up the books I covered. As I've said, I could spend hours on a single collage, but people don't like the end result of those.

>>21018974
Why not just leave a review, which is objectively better than whatever the fuck you’re doing now.

>>21018448
>deliberate no use of personal pronoun in bio
>no image on goodreads or website
this is written by a t***y isn't it

>>21018630
>we've
>names a book that isn't a xianxia

>>21018984
I want to feel like I did something and not sit on my ass all day behind a computer screen.

>>21018984
I'd do book reviews on YouTube if I were extroverted enough.

>>21019003
Nobody would want to watch you, is leaving normal, typed reviews on /sffg/ that hard for you.

>>21019008
Nobody will read some autistic fuck's 3000 character-long review that will get buried in /sffg/#1234.

>>21019027
yes they will, it's literally the only way to get an opinion on lit from someone who has actually read what they're talking about
If you're concerned about having eyes on what you write just ctrl+c ctrl+v and put it up on goodreads as well

>>21019027
I don't even read them, I scroll past them when they appear in the thread. Reviews are self-indulgent blog posts and have been since their inception, there's no reason for them to be longer than "I liked it" or "I didn't like it."

>>21014984
3 body problem

>>21019027
So, you’re doing this all for attention. That’s rather sad.

>>21018950
I have read a lot of books in the past, the obvious choices based on what I like are already done so I welcome suggestions. Some people over here have good tastes and some of the things I would turn away from based on the cover and descriptions, like the chronicles of amber, were actually quite good. And I would never have read them if not for anons shillings them here.
I mean why else would you come here if not to talk about, recommend and get recommended books? If you already Know what your next 10 books are and have a good idea of what the ones after that will be why even come here ? just read.

>>21013227
He understanding of firearms and the military in general fucks with my autism but damn if it isn't a good series

>>21019236
> why even come here
To discuss what I’ve read.

>>21018913
Stalker is a shitty fucking video game franchise but Roadside Picnic is based. Seriously though, I thought Slavs were obsessed with firearms and ballistics and innawoods tier shit, how can the weapons in these games do so little damage and feel like complete fucking SHIT nine times out of ten?

Seriously, fuck the STALKER series. STALKER 2 is going to be shit.

>>21018485
Seriously? No incest? What is it with Mormons and being obsessed with incest anyway?

>>21018266
Many such cases, sad!

>>21019404
Go back to /v/.

>>21019438
I just said the games are shit and that the book is kino, are you retarded?

>>21019447
You can make many excuses, now fuck off yo /v/

>>21019404
In Stalker the weapons get more lethal for both you and the AI on higher difficulties.
You had the difficulty set too low

>>21019504
That's a fucking retarded way to do weapon damage

>>21018671
>read 20 chapters
>it isnt good
>porn is better
RI has no sex, no porn, its not pozzed, clearly the things that you find most important in a book RI are not present in RI.

unironically it seems like authors have an easier time writing a rape scene than a consensual sex scene

>>21019665
Still not reading your shit story.

>>21019665
Kek, you always fall back to that, but Reverend Insanity will always be a terrible story. I'm glad the Chinese government shut it down. It's the only respectable thing they've done since their existence.

>>21018671
If you’re going to read webnovels, you can skip The wandering Inn. It’s pretty fucking terrible and not worth reading.

>>21019756
Why does it make you glad? I mean there are countless terrible stories, yet you probably don't care about 99.9% of them, why is it only RI that makes you seethe?

>>21019796
RI doesn’t make me seethe, just glad the Chinese government had the sense to shut it down.

>>21019665
>RI has no sex, no porn, its not pozzed,
>Anon makes no mention of wanting any of that
Are you projecting, or just plain retard?

>>21019816
why even bother shutting down something that most people will never read, like what difference does it make it to you? the ban likely had the opposite effect and contributed to its popularity and increased exposure in the west.

>>21019854
>the ban likely had the opposite effect and contributed to its popularity and increased exposure in the west.
The fuck are you talking about it? You’re the only one who likes it, everyone here has read it shits in it for being a shitty story.

>>21019835
>>Anon makes no mention of wanting any of that
my bad, I may have projected(or maybe just retarded), anyone who isn't pozzed and rejects smut is clearly based.

>>21018671
>but granted I gave up about 20 chapters in instead of 300 or 600.
Wish I had the foresight to quit early on. If I wanted to read about a muderhobo who lavishes in the act of killing and being a self-serving villain, I would have just gone to /tg/ for that

The good wuxia/xianxia webnovels are Mao Ni, I cba to spam this to make it the thread's opinion though
>>21019854
>the ban likely had the opposite effect and contributed to its popularity and increased exposure in the west.
The censors don't give a shit about what the west thinks lol they just ban stuff that violates their guidelines. Loads of stuff gets caught accidentally or is completely mundane in terms of political message like house of horrors having to scientifically explain the supernatural elements to get around its ban.
They're mostly not judging the popularity or impact of a work, it's just see a violation whack a ban on it.

>>21019887
I was wondering why RI makes people (not)seethe so much. It is hardly ever mentioned, it is a shitty story like many others but when people see something posted about it, they have to go out of their way to let everyone know just how bad it is (even if they haven't read it). Just makes no sense.

>>21018671
>This sort of literature is literally bottom of the barrel stuff, even smut is above it. Why do you guys keep shilling it?
Not to belabor a point but stop reading webnovel Xianxia. They're literally no different than western webnovels. If you want to read a good Chinese martial arts fiction, then read Jin Yong. He's a traditionally published author from Hong Kong and his works are professionally translated.

>>21019924
Yes, character progression is based on merit, ability on competence. No woman drama that turns mc into a complete idiot. All those hated hated by a modern western reader...

>>21019942
>Just makes no sense.
Because there’s a fag who keeps shilling it in every thread >>21014307 gets extremely combative when you don’t agree with him or his retarded point of views and philosophy, and overall won’t shut up about it.

>>21019965
You’re story if godawful and you’re wasting your time trying to shill it.

>>21019966
Out of all shilling and recommendatioms RI is hardly ever mentioned (apart from that one post every thread), it is rarely discussed.

>>21019970
Hmm, not sure what makes you think that but ok.

I'll see you on royalroaf anon

>>21019965
>Yes, character progression is based on merit, ability on competence.
>he says when the author literally hands the MC everything on a silver platter
Whatever you say

>>21018285

Pride & Prejudice

>>21019981
He used to shill it more often in the past, but stop once people started hating on it.

>>21018913
>This one's low effort
They're all low-effort

>>21019965
Do you even read the story you're shilling? The author bends over backwards, so his self-insert gets everything he wants with no consequence. It's boring and dull since there's no stakes involved. I don't know where you get the idea that the story support merit.

>>21019516
It’s for realism, if you’re going to be a /v/tard, at least be a good one.

>>21019959
>If you want to read a good Chinese martial arts fiction, then read Jin Yong. He's a traditionally published author from Hong Kong and his works are professionally translated.
All this talk of Xianxia, and this is perhaps the first time, someone mentions a publish author of the genre. I can’t tell if it’s because no one reads him, or if the people who read Xianxia don’t even read the genre itself.

>>21020162
His word count is beefy as fuck. With some novels being over 500,000 words, two novels being over a million words, and another being close to a million words. I can understand if no one wants to read that much.

>>21019959
Forgot to include Ni Kuang, though I would recommend his science fiction novels more.

>>21016529
>do people actually read this shit and spout it as good?
Only Wolfefags and they can’t take any criticism. Personally, I found Wolfe to be mediocre.

>>21011642
Should Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings be considered Western Canon? He’s the only fantasy writer that has any literary merits and his works define fantasy as a genre.

>>21018986
Go back to /pol/. It’s obvious you suffer from brainrot.

>>21019959
Jin Yong’s wuxia though. I honestly wonder how people mix up wuxia or xianxia, even if the line between the two can get very blurry at times.

>>21020274
Because there’s no real difference other than being anal about it.

>>21020241
Might as well. I don't think there's no other fantasy series that can have their own academics.

>>21020296
Not just academics, but it’s cultural significance. I don’t think it can never be replicated.

>>21019854
>the ban likely had the opposite effect and contributed to its popularity and increased exposure in the west.
You must be really stupid of you think getting ban means anything at this point.

>>21016037
Shame she doesn’t get a lord of mentions here. Why does she filter so many people?

>>21020324
>she
That's basically why. People see a woman author and run for the hills because... It's 4chan what did you expect.

>>21020330
There is a reason for that, especially if you read more than one female author.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.

>>21020330
>It's 4chan what did you expect.
What? I read her and Ursula Le Guin, I don't know what you're talking about.

>>21020340
You haven’t even read one.

>>21020330
If people, you mean shitposters, who can’t even read female MC due to them being insecure about their sexuality, sure.

>>21020347
It's impossible to tell if they're genuine or not.

>>21020330
I’ve just started reading Temeraire by Naomi. Don’t let a few anons color your views on /sffg/.

>>21020367
Shitposters are never genuine. That’s the entire point of shitposting.

I've read science fiction and fantasy from two female authors within the last two or three years. Lathe of Heaven and A Wizard of Earthsea by Le Guin and Piranesi by Susanna Clarke.

All three of these were decently written and for the most part, enjoyable reads. I can't for the life of me figure out why female authors trigger you niggers so much.

Granted, women just in general are fucking scum, yes but come on... Is it just inceldom that makes you people this way?

>>21020367
Bujold is one of my favourite authors, and I still skip almost everything written by women outright. Women cannot write until proven otherwise.

>>21020377
My assumption is people think female author = female audience, which is true for some of the romance thinly disguised as fantasy stuff like whatever the hell Sarah J. Maas is pumping out, but female authors of more 'proper' fantasy don't really have much of a higher or lower quality output.

>>21020377
>I can't for the life of me figure out why female authors trigger you niggers so much.
It's mostly from anons who also visit /pol/ and /r9k/.

>>21020377
>you people
Go back to whichever social-aggregate you came from, 2019+ newfag.

>>21020386
>which is true for some of the romance thinly disguised as fantasy stuff like whatever the hell Sarah J. Maas is pumping out
Young adult high fantasy

>>21020401
Fuck off. All you ever do is shit up /sffg/.

>>21020404
A court of thorns and roses is new adult high fantasy. Haven’t read her Crescent City series.

>>21020380
>I still skip almost everything written by women outright. Women cannot write until proven otherwise.
That's a stupid point of view to have.

Enjoyed Void Star a lot. Interesting story on AI, perfect human memory, and the blending of human memory between multiple people and between humans and AI. Reminiscent of William Gibson in style. Surprised I don't see it brought up more, especially in conversation around cyberpunk novels.

>>21020446
>especially in conversation around cyberpunk novels.
No one reads cyberpunk novels here, unless its Neuromancer or Snow crash

>>21011642
What is some good S&S for someone who's never read any?

>>21020464
Try Conan.

>>21020446
>Reminiscent of William Gibson in style. Surprised I don't see it brought up more, especially in conversation around cyberpunk novels.
In what way? Like in Neuromancer or his bridge trilogy?

>>21020377
>Piranesi by Susanna Clarke.
Good book, shame its shun here due to who wrote it. Feels like anons are just throwing away good reading material for no reason

>>21020377
>I can't for the life of me figure out why female authors trigger you niggers so much.
Trying to fit in? Some sort of Toxic masculinity? You’re guess is as good as mine.

>>21020377
>Is it just inceldom that makes you people this way?
You’re on 4chan, the answer is yes.

>>21020330
Don't lump me with those idiots, I read female authors, whether or not I like them is another question, but I give them a try.

>>21020241
>Should Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings be considered Western Canon?
Yes, he's called the father of Fantasy for a reason and his influence on the genre shouldn't be downplayed

>>21020401
I've been using 4chan since 2005 sweaty, sorry to disappoint.

>>21020529
You can just ignore him, he always says stupid shit like that.

>>21020478
Similar imagery and the sleek and terse yet slightly fragmented style of writing of Neuromancer. The story is similar to the Sprawl and Bridge trilogies in that it's an imagining of the future of technology as written on the cusp of a sea change, assuming AI and general autonomous computing is about to take off as the net and computers were when Neuromancer was written.

Speaking of women, I have Sea of Tranquility by Emily St John Mandel in the mail. I'm excited! It's the novel that sounded most interesting to me out of her six, but if I like it I would like to read Last Night in Montreal and Station Eleven as well.

>>21020446
I’m more into Hard Sci-fi, so I don’t really read a lot of Cyberpunk, the most recent one being the Junk Mozambe Myster series by Warren Hammond. And that’s more of a Tech-noir than anything else. Still, if you’re looking for a hard-boiled mafia thriller set on another world, you can check it out.

>>21020544
>The story is similar to the Sprawl and Bridge trilogies in that it's an imagining of the future of technology as written on the cusp of a sea change, assuming AI and general autonomous computing is about to take off as the net and computers were when Neuromancer was written.
Does it get philosophical with its themes? Because if it does, I'll be willing to add it to my reading list

>>21020444
The top 2% of female writers are better than the top 40% of males. Misogynists will never tell you this.

>>21020571
Not terribly, just presents some things to think about when it comes to transhumanism.

>>21020629
>Not terribly, just presents some things to think about when it comes to transhumanism.
Ah, that's sad, wish it dealt with the nature of AI, but I'm willing to take transhumanism

>>21020636
Well, it does that too, but I felt the focus was mostly on the human aspect.

>>21020646
I'll read the free chapters on amazon and then buy it if I like it. thanks for the recommendation.

>>21020555
Hope you enjoy reading it.

>>21020580
What’s your list of good female authors?

>>21020444
>>21020580
This fat bitch is mad.

>>21020544
Not the person you’re responding to, but it doesn’t have that cringey out of date cyberspace, right? I understand why it appeared on Neuromancer, but I cannot tolerate it now for modern cyberpunks.

>>21020677
Wow, anon, you're so cool and edgy for saying this

>>21020347
99% of female protagonists are male self-inserts and/or projection of the author's narcissism. Writing good ones is a major creative drain. Most competent female writers won't even fuck with it, and when they do it's usually a very unflattering parody of their younger self.

>>21020693
>Writing good ones is a major creative drain.
Writing a good MC is a major creative drain, not just female ones. I've stopped reading books due to the MC just being plain shit.

>>21020555
I don't think it'll be what you think it is, based on my reading and writing about it, but maybe I'm wrong.

>>21020706
>this exists therefore
No. You're comparing two bell curves. f!mc needs more setup and has far lower success rate.

>>21020766
I think you’re just over complicating things.

Lord of Mysteries is a good xianxia with great worldbuilding and a satisfying power system. Its the only xianxia worth reading really.

>>21020780
Shame it’s still shit.

>>21020769
I think I'm trying to discuss YA literature with a kitchen appliance.

>>21020785
elaborate

>>21020791
Lord of Mysteries Is still shit. What’s so hard to understand from that?

>>21020446
>>21020646
Actually, going to buy it now, since it's on sale for half price, so it's worth 10 dollars now.

>>21020804
Hope you enjoy reading it.

>>21020693
You should read Gideon the Ninth if you haven't already. In my opinion, it's akin to a Agatha Christie novel

>>21020446
>Surprised I don't see it brought up more, especially in conversation around cyberpunk novels.
Very few anons read here, and some of them are often driven out

Lord of the Mysteries is the by far the best webnovel/serial ever-written in the history of mankind.

>>21020853
People have mention that series, but apparently the second book is written in second person point of view? Not something I’ll read if I have the choice.

>>21020880
Shame it’s still shit.

>>21020881
Second book is good, if a bit experimental when it comes to the writing.

>>21019027
What? People here clamor for reviews, the fuck are you on about.

>>21017054
It’s literally discuss on the first chapter of Tyrion during clash of kings.

>>21017744
>They literally discuss this in the book lmao
It's like people here don't even read the books they ask questions about

>>21019932
Who knew Kant could've finished his Anthropology by looking at the Chinese.

>>21020693
I really need to get around to read Sabriel. It’s been on my list to read for months now.

>>21011676
>a world that reverses all you know about a Tolkien elves?
This is a "hit the snooze button" moment, no hesitation.

>>21012751
you forgot the sweet scent of faeces and sizzling lamb

>>21013983
The Lord Leto sat alone in a dark catacomb, his worm body surrounded by his Hwi Noree doll collection, when Moneo entered the room.
Leto smiled. “Something’s on your mind.”
“Yes Lord, I find myself wondering once again why you turned yourself into a worm. How does that benefit the Empire?”
Leto smiled, and proceeded to quote the entire works of Plato, in their original ancient Greek (which Moneo could not understand, of course). “Do you see now my friend, how intelligent I am? I was Plato, after all. Very intelligent.”
“Yes Lord, it is as you say. As I listened to you for the past few hours though, another question came to mind.”
Leto smiled. “Of course Moneo, you know how much it pleases me to demonstrate my intellectual superiority over you. Proceed.”
“Thank you, Lord.” Moneo bowed low. “My question, is when my daughter Siona will become relevant to the plot?”
Leto smiled. “Don’t you see? Despite doing nothing, she was always the most important person to me and my plans.” He stroked the head of one of his Hwi life-sized dolls, accidentally activating the Tleilaxu bomb planted inside to kill him. He was unharmed, but the explosion alerted the rest of his guard.
Duncan Idaho burst into the room, still balls deep in one of his harem members. “What the fuck is going on?!”
Leto smiled. “Oh Duncan, this is why I love your company so. You know exactly what questions to ask, and you doubt everything.”
But Duncan was a Face Dancer, and started firing blaster shots at Leto’s face.
Moneo shouted from his side: “My Lord! Why is this happening?!”
Leto smiled, as he so rarely did. “All of this is in accordance with my Golden Path.” He resumed cooing over his dolls.

>>21020932
Reads terribly.

>>21020933
Reads like God Emperor.

>>21020853
>voice seamlessly from Lovecraftian gothic mode into a slangy contemporary mode without ever undercutting one or the other for cheap comedy.
Isn't this kind of mixed style the one Le Guin criticizes? The best stylists like Dunsany, Tolkien, etc. have a consistent style and don't mix it up because it breaks immersion.

>>21020324
I see her mentioned often enough, the two biggest filter for people though are how the first series can come off a bit depressing and the homostuff regarding the fool

>try reading A Court of Thorns and Roses to see why my crush loves it so much.
>mfw all these lewd scenes, and kisses description.
uhhhhh ok.

Dan and Marty are a cute couple

New thread
>>21021207

>>21016523
Book 11 a shit