/lit/ - Literature

>>20991992
Not /lit/

>>20991992
link it. a free version, of course. nobody will pay for it.
it's not against the rules to post the link to the text here.

I’ll solve your problem. “Hey anon! I’m looking for some cool works from radical 4channers! Do you have any you could share with me?” Godspeed

>>20992013
>>20992050
Alright I am not good with computer tech stuff hope this works https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y_8HqqK5ghCE7LxL0JHwDD5tAA7EYq2zdJxgoraCPik/edit

>>20992104
Will read on my lunch break <3

>>20992104
Gonna need permission to edit the document to correct some errors you made

>>20992104
Interesting read, but it reads like a 9th graders essay. It felt very unprofessional, if you want people to respect your writing and ideas you need to state them as fact, not as “I think” “I believe.” The weird interludes brought me out of the reading and like mentioned made me take it less seriously. For example, literally in the beginning, “uh anyways…” in its own line. Interesting concept, childishly written.

>>20991992
>“Meta-Programming” in computer science means designing a code, or com puter program, which then either updates and programs itself, or otherwise then produces code and programs of it’s own.
I stopped reading right here. Baby had his first "Whoa bro dude" philosophical moment while taking a computer science course. This writing you made is painfully cringe inducing and doesn't reflect that you've read any actual philosophy.

>>20992104
Fantastic, anon. I'm sure you'll have no trouble getting it published.

>>20991992
Well done anon

>>20992104
bump for interest

>>20992104
>this retard was able to have enough discipline to sit down and write an entire books worth of drivel
Thanks OP, this is an incredible motivator. I'm actually going to get off my ass now and resume working on my book

>>20991992
dont listen to these sad fucks be proud of your book bro

>>20993085
have you given it a look?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM

>>20991992
>>20992104
>I wrote an actual fucking philosophy book.
And its shit.

>>20991992
I'm going to be honest, I hadn't fully read it nor do I intend to, simply because I'm exhausted, however . . .

You're gonna get a lot of mixed responses, you already got some people bashing you. I'm not gonna sugarcoat and say you wrote something new or even rehashed something old in an interesting way, but I will tell you this: don't get disheartened. You seem young, take your licks and learn from it. You want to think difficult stuff and put yourself out there, that's admirable, but remember you're stepping into a world of giants.

Keep going, explore how your ideas fit into already established philosophies, from ancient to modern.

>>20991992
You will just get a lot of hate, and you deserve it.

>>20994794
I love him. Fuck you.

>>20994381
>>20995050
>>20994794
It's actually quite sad. OP is mentally ill.

>>20991992
Regardless of how shit it might be, it is still more than 99% of this board will ever accomplish so you can be proud of that at the very least.

>>20992400
does one need to read philosophy in order to do philosophy?

>>20991992
I wrote mine two years ago

>>20995060
>OP is mentally ill.
He posts on 4chan, it was a given.

>>20995187

You are going to say some retarted shit unless you understand the conversation that proceeds you. Otherwise you are just barging into a room and shouting something unrelated

>>20992104
This... is unironically well written

>>20995066
Sad but true. However, and then, and so it was.

>>20995187
Unequivocally yes

>>20995066
Not only have I written more than OP, it is significantly less retarded and done in better style.

>>20992104
I didn't even read any of it, but I do want to tell you that your writing sucks. Especially the prose. You should give up and never try again.

>>20992104
>Some will say they do not know where they go when they die. Quite true. But tell me, where were they while living? Tell me of that mystical land they beheld while alive. What was that strange place like?

>>20996204
>Some will say they do not know where they go when they die. Quite true. But tell me, where were they before they were born? Tell me of that mystical land they beheld in the mist of pre-existence. What was that strange place like?
Fixed

>>20992104
>>20991992
Good read anon. Here's my review

In Metaism, Anon introduces a philosophical viewpoint that is rooted in understading oneself, hence metaism. Anon's writing is unpretentious, simple, and to the point. More than that, his writing is clear and well organized into clear sections: introduction, metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, conclusion. In terms of content, there are some sparks, but anon seems still young, preferring to make more of an artistic work than a rigurous thesis. Here it is by chapters:

>META AWARENESS
Here, he introduces his metaphysics, which is fundamentally mystical: it centers around the idea of understanding that our souls exist despite not being able to perceive them. Although anon cites Heidegger, it's not clear that he read him, because Heidegger has a more extensive exposition of Being.

>SELECT UNKNOWABLE BELEIFS
Here, anon introduces his epistemology: we have biases, and just as our souls are unknown to us, so are our biases. However, he does not wish that we adopt a defeatist mindset: we should explore and understand our biases, and, above all, embrace them. Rather that futilely trying to correct them, anon says we should instead use our biases in order to answer unanswereble metaphysical questions. This viewpoint was already presented by Hume, but anon does not seem to be aware of it.

>THE ALIKENESS BETWEEN CONCIOUSNESSES
Lastly, anon introduces his ethics which conclude with the golden rule as a conclusion of the likeliness between us all. Although we cannot prove that others exist, anon builds upon his previously stated epistemology and uses his psychological biases to claim that it's likely that others exist too. This was already used by Berkeley (argument from analogy).

>REVIEW CONCLUSION
Overall, anon put out a pretty good work. He's probably in his early 20s, so he's a talented young man. He obviously read a bit of philosophy, but not a lot of it presumambly because he wanted to explore philosophy by himself. Above all, he managed to create a coherent philosophy that builds up from metaphysics up to very valid ethics. In his philosophy, he makes room for mysticism, differences, and accord. Philosophically, it is of course nothing new, but it's a good exercise, it is well written, and it is a complete work. Now, what OP may not like to hear is the following: anon, you're a crypto-Christian. You're too young now to realise it, but within 5 years you'll be worshipping in a Church, probably an Orthodox Church.

Good luck, ignore all the hateful comments, and hold tight to your optimism about life because it's a true blessing.

Is this better than Belcea? OP get a cool cover so you can enter the /lit/ Hall of Fame philosophers

>>20996054
are there no new avenues of philosophical inquiry that have no precedent? I am generally sympathetic to you point though. one should know the history and genealogy of a topic as a bare minimum prerequisite for a work on that subject to be taken seriously. But how does this apply to completely new concepts? surely there was a first philosopher who read no other and still wrote down his ideas. There is also the chance that someone who hasnt read any philosophy comes to a conclusion another philosopher came to but by different means that can glean new insights into the original work. which would be something that would be hindered by previous knowledge ("someone else already figured it out so why would I bother?" kind of deal). Is there zero value in that?

>>20996520
>are there no new avenues of philosophical inquiry that have no precedent?
No, not since the Greeks.
> Is there zero value in that?
Believe me, you're not on the level of the Ancient Greeks who were raised in the most sophisticated and advanced age of philosophy. You were raisesd in one of the most intellectually bankrupt eras, you're entirely lost without tradition. There's no value in arrogance, none whatsoever.

>>20996567
>you're not on the level of the Ancient Greeks
>who were raised in the most sophisticated and advanced age of philosophy.
You are in a phase and you will cringe when you are out of it

>>20996579
Projection.

>>20996583
I'm not in denial about it like you though

>>20996591
Then you invalidated your statement dumbass becaues it's coming from a self-confessed child who is yet to grow up. Don't post again.

>>20996579
You don't read lol

>>20992537
How do you get published?

>>20996622
Spoken like you took it personally

>>20995187
If you wish to reach new ground, otherwise you will only retread the paths of others.

>>20995281
Like no joke, actually mentally challenged. Even this "book" gives vibes to many as though it's been written by a child who just "thought that this philosophy thing sound cool". This is what actually retards do, unironically get excited over things because they are talked about in pseudo "underground". How is this notion actually called? Naiveness? Don't have to be a retard to have it, but all of them do if they are.

>>20991992
>>20992104
You wrote a 'philosophy' pamphlet not a book first of all.
Drop the comedy if you want to be taken serious. Drop the awkward segues and work on better flow, from skimming it's very start stop start stop. Not coherent or fun to read. The philosophy involved is very bare bones and easy to pick apart. But I admire the effort and hope you keep expanding and refining your idea

>>20996942
I do think this is the common out come but what about >>20996520

Bump

>>20996257
>Now, what OP may not like to hear is the following: anon, you're a crypto-Christian
I’m not a Christian, FAGGOT. I’m a satanist GOTH and I spit on your bible.
Your review was shit. Unflushable shit. You must be unable to read because your comments have ZERO connection to the fragments quoted.
Good job, you played yourself nignog

>>20996257
OP here, I’d like to point out this >>20999269 is not me and that in fact I suck gingatous veiny cocks <3

>>20992380
Robert Anton Wilson wrote about this. His stance was that it is better to say "I think", "It seems to me that", etc. instead of just stating something as fact. This way, you avoid confrontation while also expressing yourself. I think that's a good thing.

>>20996628
Try an academic press

>>20997029
>Naiveness
Now you're the actual tard. It's "naivete" or "naiveté" if you're feeling fancy.

>>20999356
>Robert Anton Wilson (born Robert Edward Wilson; January 18, 1932 – January 11, 2007) was an American author, futurist, and self-described agnostic mystic. Recognized within Discordianism as an Episkopos, pope and saint, Wilson helped publicize Discordianism through his writings and interviews.[1]
If this paganoid said so...

>>20996482
More people made fun of Belcea that's for sure. This thread is very quiet. Also where the fuck is OP?

>>20999269
>>20999280
Fuck both of you guys the fucking poster count went up when both of you posted don't think I didn't fucking notice go fuck yourselves.

>>20999426
I'm still here. I read a lot of the posts in this thread, really liked the critique from >>20996257 this guy, I think he got most of it, though I don't think I rely on belief in the soul. I just call it consciousness. I also don't say that it's not perceivable, I mean it's not invisible, I can see "consciousness" in everything, though I didn't get into this really in the book. I think though he got the main points. I'm glad people commented on it even if some people thought it was childish, silly, goofy, and rough around the edges. It's obviously a passion project. I think I am going to continue reading philosophy and write more books. I don't want to lose the funny goofy childish side to it though, it's just how I write my thoughts.

>>20991992
i wrote two novels and i've had some poetry published but yeah i wouldn't write philosophy

>>20991992
>book
>8000~ words, or about 20-25 pages
more like an essay, no?
also, its shit, at least read Kant or some shit before making your own philosophy

>>20999371
>he spells naïve with a single dotted i
Yeah, you're dumb.

>>20996567
>No, not since the Greeks.

And that's how you know philosophy is a dead end meme. If it can't even outgrow some bearded old dudes from 2500 years ago who didn't know a quarter of the shit about the world a regular modern high schooler does.

Not to shit on OPs efforts that is.

>>20999460
>I can see "consciousness" in everything
>mfw OP turned pantheist

>>20999356
>avoid confrontation
HAHAHA THATS NOT A GOOD THING CUNT

>>20994350
le ess see pee dream journal

>>20996197
ti... I mean, links or gtfo

>>20992104
"A book" You're too cute OP

>>20991992
Happy 4u

>>20999356
Based RAW enjoyer. I also use “some but not all” often. It’s amazing how fast that cuts down reflexive kneejerk responses.

>>20991992
its an essay, as >>20999528 pointed out, also how old are you? this whole thing seems to have been written by no more than a 15 year old that has minimal knowledge on the history of philosophy (most likely googling quotes from [insert philosopher here] and thinking that they sum up their philosophy so you don't have to read their books), i must admit however that you seem to be a pretty creative person, so keep going (and read more philosophy) and one day you might make something at least decent

>>21001429
Post some of your philosophy writing