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I finished this terrible novel, on /lit/'s recommendation no less, and it's pretentious tripe. Why does he write with this fake deep affect, like your average English major? This is who you guys say is one of the best writers of the 20th century?

>> No.20994412

>>20994253
I don’t like any of his books either

>> No.20994474

>>20994253
Are you wearing a hacking jacket? What's a hacking jacket?

>> No.20994498

>>20994253
I have only read Libra but i have no doubt its his best novel. I suggest you get a physical book to read it though

>> No.20994506

>>20994253
Yeah I do not get this guy's appeal. That excerpt isn't so bad but I tried reading his novels before and I dislike his prose. It's pretentious.

>> No.20994613

>>20994498
Why physical?

>> No.20994641

>>20994253
dumbass

>> No.20994695

>>20994613
That's how books are meant to be read

>> No.20995509

>>20994412
Why not?

>> No.20995542

>>20994498
I agree Libra is his best, but he's hugely overrated.

>> No.20995550

>>20995509
His writing makes me cringe. He hides his vapidity behind affected prose

>> No.20995551

>>20994506
He's liberal with the descriptions. A bit much

>> No.20995591

>>20995551
Upon reading of the plot Babette is a fucking whore. I swear to God

>> No.20995686

>>20994253
This is unironically pretty good not cringe at all. Now I want to read DeLillo.

>> No.20995795

>>20994253
I regret reading it as well. Ellis, except no discernable talent.

>> No.20997494

>>20995550
Lots of buzzwords

>> No.20997515

>>20994253
it's not good. falling man was better

>> No.20997794

>>20994253
Don't know, he's pretty boring

>> No.20997804

i liked it

>> No.20998085

>>20994253
I didn't mind the prose of White Noise, it was a bit pretentious at times but mostly I just found it pretty comfy. What was disappointing is how the book had almost nothing new to say to me. For a book about the relations between consumerism and mortality he really made an ocean out of a stream, and then committed self-masturbatory congratulation over his little ocean for the second half of the book. If that annoyed you I can see how the pretentious prose would drive you nuts, but I just shrugged it off and found it to be alright in the end.

>> No.20998211
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20998211

>>20998085
What do you think about the religious themes?

>> No.20998230

>>20994253
>pretentious tripe
Those are certainly two words, indeed. Imagine putting those two words together in a sentence to describe White Noise. Perhaps the problem lies with you, since you are retarded

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>>20998211
>consumerism is religious zealotry
Again its told in a way that I find endearing and enjoyable, but it doesn't have the impact now that it probably would have in 1985. We've become so entrenched in simulacra that even most normies are onto it now.

>> No.20999094

>>20998276
That's fair. It should be best understood in it's time. But I agree it doesn't hit the same in 2022.

>> No.20999114

>>20994253
It works best as a prediction, desu. Most of the issues he discusses have become not only obvious but celebrated.
Bear in mind, it's not his magnum opus, but the novel that put him on the map. Underworld, Libra, and Mao II could arguably be considered much better.
I also really like how cold his prose is at times. The dialogue is fucked but that's endearing to me in a way, and is something DeLillo acknowledges.

>> No.20999123

>>20999114
I also like the discussion on celebrity he makes with Elvis and Hitler. He is pretty blatant when he is suggesting themes and ideas, but I found it enjoyable. He does it alot in Libra as well.

>> No.20999222

>>20999114
Liked white noise and underworld.
Mao Ii was not enjoyable for me. Dialogue reminded me of Americana.
Is Libra closer to Underworld or MaoII?

>> No.20999250

>>20999094
I think I came across too harsh in my first post, I went in with 0 idea what the book was about anyways, and I don't mean to imply that he approaches his themes at only the surface level as if a puddle. I wonder if there is a book that analyses the completed development of consumerism, where the average person doesn't have the wool pulled over his eyes like Gladney, but is completely aware of how entrenched his entire perception is with consumerism, how he acknowledges and even at times complains about it, but fails to take any action against it. Maybe even coming to a conclusion that its inescapable. That is the trend I see more of nowadays than any form of white-noise esque technological mysticism, people who acknowledge the horrible misdeeds and ill intentions that their symbol-makers possess and even call them out, participate in some kind of verbal activism, but continue to gladly consume their media, their products, their advertisements, so on. That is the kind of thing I see among people nowadays.

>> No.20999311

>>20999250
When I watched tv I used to watch ads all the time. Now internet has completely supplanted television as a source of entertainment in my life and I ignore all advertisement.

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>>20994253
read this, my man. Avoid future mistakes

>> No.20999608

>>20999593
>B.R.

>> No.20999615

>>20999608
huh?

>> No.21000397

>>20999615
brazilian

>> No.21000435

>>20994253
>trying to make mundane shit sound interesting with forced cringe prose
and this board says murakami is bad with that stuff...

>> No.21000438

>>21000435
>forced prose

why do you read

>> No.21000467

He literally writes like a redditor

>> No.21000477

Delillo filters most of lit. It’s really funny.

>> No.21000492

>>20998230
based

something isn't pretentious if it is actually brilliant and original, like White Noise was

>> No.21000824

>doesn't understand book so his only criteria for evaluation of quality is solely around some vague notion of "muh prose" without detailing what about the prose doesn't work
/lit/ in a nutshell. Everyone here is a dumbshit

>> No.21001078

>>21000824
It's as if they think the author wanted the narrator/protagonist to be a likable guy.

>> No.21002176

>>20994253
2deep4u