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20984817 No.20984817 [Reply] [Original]

>le ideology is le boogeyman.

>> No.20984843

>>20984817
Why do Eastern European’s look like that?

>> No.20985348

Ideology is good now
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rLNSzxzEbKU

>> No.20985414

>>20984817
>hates ideology
>is ideological
huh

>> No.20985543

>>20985348
>Zizek vs Vivek
Bros..........

>> No.20985590
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>>20984817
>>tears down structure
>>offers nothing to replace what he destroyed
>>society objectively worse after he speaks
>>has more tics than a cajun waterfoul dog

>> No.20985615
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>>20984817
When did you guys realize that all Marxists are in the end just biological determinists?

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>>20985615
They are not. You retard. National-Socialists are. Marxists are the opposite, believing all manner of behavior can be controlled by moderation of their enviroment.

You fucking libertarian fuckwit.

>> No.20985664

>>20985625
they are though if they actually think for more than ten minutes about their theory. They are materialists who believe "material conditions" dictate society. When you push them on this they will all say that DNA and genetics count as "material conditions" as they are what constitutes a living person. And since they don't believe in a self and believe material conditions precede social relations and the fact that the only way to even interact with any outside materials requires your biological faculties means that it is the primary determinant. Marxists are biological determinists, they just don't want to admit it :)

>> No.20985670

>>20985664
>When you push them on this they will all say that DNA and genetics count as "material conditions"
I should add, they do this in order to completely discredit psychology and self-consciousness as that would place ideology above "the base"

>> No.20985686

>>20985543
It's about time. Zizek was talking about Morrowind years ago in In Defence of Lost Causes. Now he is here to cast down the false gods of the Tribunal.

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>>20985664
Are you being a fucking idiot on purpose,

That is the opposite of biological determinism. Because they, and you, use terms incorrectly does not mean that others also. Use correct terminology and correct science. They can be called economic determinists but that is all.

>> No.20985705

>>20985694
I'm sorry but that is not the opposite of biological determinism, it's materialism taken to its logical conclusion because biology is, no matter what you think, the prime material or as Engels called "real-life". Just because they don't bother to think their theories through doesn't mean I can't do it for them :)

The opposite would be free will.

>> No.20985708

>>20985590
Pretty much what I think. Deconstruction without meaning. All you end up doing is breaking the table you fail to put food on.

>> No.20985718

>>20985705
>the prime material or as Engels called "real-life"
that is, Engels further described that the ultimately determining element in history is the production and reproduction of "real life" not the "economic element" whatever that means, but the only thing that actually can be the foundation of this "real life" is biology. Of course, they didn't think that far because they were retards.

>> No.20985719

>>20985708
If his whole thing is "he makes good points for others to use" he isn't a thinker, he's a tool. Not having any sense of solution to the problems you point out is a waste of breath.

>> No.20985837

>>20985590
I apologize if this has been pointed out a million times but how funny is it that Sartre looks like that and one of his most famous books is called Nausea

>> No.20985850

>>20985718
That is interesting
Leftists always go on about how economic and social conditions determine things
But biology is even more powerful. Why do they deny biology?

>> No.20986542

>>20985615
Stupid frogposter.

>> No.20986625

>>20984843
look like what?

>> No.20987403

>>20986542
Retarded marxoid.

>> No.20987427

>>20985850
>Why do they deny biology?
They don't, not when it suits their wishes, they just practice willful ignorance in order to not be seen as heckin' racists chuds by their peers and it would imply it is historically determined that some people are to be unfree. That or they are actually retarded.

>> No.20987518

I don't agree with his views at all but I respect him because I have a similar facial tic to him so I know it takes balls to speak publicly with that.