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>creates entire languages for his fictional world
>but then just uses real month names from the Gregoriam calendar

>> No.20970006

>>20970002
He’s translating into English

>> No.20970022

>>20970002
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but English, Old English, and Old Norse exist within the universe he created. I think the people of Rohan speak in Old English, or at least their language is translated to us in Old English

>> No.20970028

>>20970002
The book literally has an Appendix (D) dedicated to his fictional calendars.

>> No.20970059

His way is better. When someone who has spoken English their entire live hears Tuesday in October that person knows exactly what I means without thinking. When they say Coxdi in Vagtember we're all gonna have to work it out in our heads unless you're just a super fan of the setting and bothered to learn it all.

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20970075

>>20970002
there are like 4 threads about tolkien and lotr on this board right now, why don't you guys make your own general or something

>> No.20970355

>>20970022
> I think the people of Rohan speak in Old English, or at least their language is translated to us in Old English
They speak "Rohiric" which is represented by Old English, while normal English represents Westron or Aduni, a bastardized descendant of the Númenor language spoken by the human population of Middle-Earth. Maura Labingi is the real name of Frodo Baggins, something Italian. Bilbo = Bilba Labingi. Samwise Gamgee - Banazîr Galbasi , something also Arabic-Italian.
Old Norse transmitted the names of dwarves. They never use or reveal their true name when communicating with other races. So Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili - this is how the names of the dwarves sounded to the hobbits, like the old Norse for the modern English. The only "real" dwarven name is Azaghâl from the first age.

>> No.20970369

It's all translation for the sake of the reader.

>> No.20970399

>>20970075
Asians look extremely uncanny

>> No.20972112

>>20970022
Holy shit, someone actually read the fucking book.

>> No.20972365

>>20970075
>there are like 4 threads about tolkien and lotr on this board right now, why don't you guys make your own general or something
Because /tv/ constantly shits up /lit/ due to /tv/ being filled with faggots.

>> No.20972845

>>20970002
Yes, the gregorian calender and not the julian
because fuck orthoshits

>> No.20973672

>>20970002
>creates entire languages for his fictional world
Yeah no. He created the languages first. He was a professor of English at Oxford University and a philologist. He wrote the Hobbit because he was fucking bored while grading papers and wrote LotR because the publishers wanted a sequel.