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How do you get a gf according to Evola? I was reading the metaphysics of sex and he mentions that in order to attract the opposite sex you have to awake the primordial masculine aspect within yourself but however he doesn't get into any details on how to do this. He also mentions that rape/kidnapping is trad, but as you may understand I would prefer not to do that.

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>> No.20930969

>>20930965
?
who's Doreen?

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>>20930961
Get lost freak. Ah I'm thinking about Evan O'Dorney from Princeton University. Murder scene, graffiti, drugs, comedy etc. "On that shit Ronald McDonald is going to fuck your asshole!" Shouting man.

>> No.20930979

>>20930965
schizo post.

>> No.20930981

>>20930969
the guy in the op I'm assuming

>> No.20930993

>>20930981
Literally says it's Evola.

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>>20930974
Special mention Septic Shock from San Jose, CA circa 2002 to 2008 hardcore punk

>> No.20931071

>>20930961
>as you may understand I would prefer not to do that.
that's why you will never get a gf

>> No.20931082

>>20930961
>He also mentions that rape/kidnapping is trad
He didn't say that. He was explaining under a certain degenerate mentality why a man would rape. Evola saw the act itself as dishonorable.

>> No.20931093

>>20930961
Much like the mystic Tao, the first step to getting a girlfriend from reading Evola is to be the kind of person who would never read Evola to try to get a girlfriend.

>>20930965
Evola's was called Doreen? lmao. Was that like a wizard name or something?

>> No.20931099

>>20931071
dago, I am sorry for betraying you, but it was for your own good. Insinuating that your were a fed was wrong, and I'm sorry.

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>>20930969
the trans-girl mod at r/antiwork which inspired the chud wojak variation

>> No.20931213

>>20930961
i dont think its very common for evola readers to have a gf
>>20931113
no the chud wojak comes from some american mass shooter

>> No.20931230

>>20930965
That is hilarious, whoever made that is really clever

>> No.20931278

>>20931213
Wrong

>> No.20931302

>>20931278
no its true that wojak is way older than that reddit mod thing

>> No.20931304

>>20931113
That's the Foster Wallace mug, common among high IQ individuals. Then you have the Magnus Carlsen/Elon Musk retarded look.

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>>20931113

>> No.20931320

>>20931304
Your physiognomic analysis is all over the place anon. DFW, doreen, Carlsen, and Musk have entirely different faces.

>> No.20931336

>>20931320
I have an eye for autistic faces, don't look at the details just at the autism.

>> No.20931338

>>20931316
He looks like a colonial era New Englander.

>> No.20931341

Be masculine and you will attract the femenine.I it and got a gf at 29. Lasted 4 months after I had the genius idea of telling her I was a virgin before and that I would never take the injection and to stop being a covid retard.

>> No.20931345

>>20931341
Forgot to say I lost my virginity to her. So it was a win anyways.

>> No.20931377

Evola has unironically improved my sex life. His basic thesis about gender polarity is not only correct, it can be directly applied both in attracting a woman to begin with, and having a better sex life once you have a gf. It also trains you in his symbolic phenomenology in general, because you are not just learning to notice the forms and symbolic structures underlying sexuality and gender, you are learning to do that in general. You will naturally take that knowledge with you and apply it in different domains.

Very sensitive, empathetic, and charismatic people often do this naturally without any sense that they are doing some esoteric exercise. They are just being observant and tapping into the real forms of things without even knowing it. But they also often have the various downsides associated with being excessively empathetic and charismatic, like being neurotic, thin-skinned, too easily fluctuating or overstimulated, or panicking when taking too much emotional information from others, and in the case of charisma often grandiosity and manipulative tendencies that over time isolate one and make one less empathetic. By becoming mindful deliberately and consciously, you can tap into these structures with more than just intuition and unconscious talent, and thus without being dominated by them.

If your desire is for knowledge, learning these structures is also important since they are important features of reality itself (like gender duality/polarity). But at the bare minimum, Evola is at least making you heuristically mindful of gender differences that men only rarely reflect on consciously after a lot of experience, which is usually when it's too late for it to be of any use any more, and it's all too woven into their instincts and lucky natural traits to be communicated anyway.

At the bare minimum he can at least teach you how dangerous it is to be ambiguously and indecisively androgynous around women. But there are much deeper levels to it, like how he notes that there are entire levels of sexual experience simply lost to modern people because we only exist at the level of pubescent titillation, and the higher symbolic levels of sex are obscured, like a river whose silt has been stirred up so that it clouds the normally clear waters, and obscures the complex topography normally available to good swimmers. One reading of Evola's book by a sensitive soul is an informal initiation into what is really meant by "tantra" in connection with sex.

But sex will always be a very low level of human experience, no matter how refined.

>> No.20931463

>>20931377
>At the bare minimum he can at least teach you how dangerous it is to be ambiguously and indecisively androgynous around women
I thought women love danger and mystery

>> No.20931477

>>20931463
An indecisive androgynous loser is not dangerous nor mysterious.

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>>20931113

>> No.20931885

>>20931463
They like capability and things "beyond" them and beyond mundane everyday life and sociality, which they feel like masters of and are consequently bored of. This can manifest in really weird ways, some women really do like effeminate or strange men, but it usually has to come with some kind of uniqueness or confirmation of social status and transcendence of the mundane, which comes with a "right" to be weird or different. Women ultimately instinctively want a guy who is already powerful, but because so few people are literally powerful or have visible high status like a rock star, most guys get by on either being locally powerful and high status (which is semi-boring to them but better than nothing), or by faking it until they make it and somehow radiating some kind of charisma that says if they're not currently powerful or high status they will be soon. Women have a paradoxical mandate of heaven style view of what makes men attractive, if you become emperor and end the civil wars it means you always had the mandate of heaven and that's why you won the civil wars and if you are emperor and cause a civil war and die it's because you lost the mandate of heaven. The effect is revealed to be the cause of the cause.

Women are looking for a guy with the mandate of heaven. The shortest way to that is obviously already being a rock star or famous person, which is why rock stars are known for just pointing to a bunch of screaming women after the show on the way to their car and fucking them. But if you can somehow radiate that you are a rock star or famous person or about to become one as soon as the rest of reality catches on to your greatness, they can find that attractive too. A lot of mysteriously charismatic guys do that without even knowing it, or they do it in one sphere at least. Way more often it plays out in small, invisible ways in everyday life, like a woman seeing you do something that strikes her as more than normally sweet, or seeing you be great with kids, when you're not doing it to impress anyone. Or if a woman sees you assuming leadership roles in small situations, that can be attractive even in surprisingly banal ways.

This is also the root of the "just be confident" advice, because the exact opposite of radiating that you have the mandate of heaven is radiating that you are yourself self-conscious that you don't have it and you're nothing. You can't be between something and nothing, or on the way to something, to a woman, because they can't afford to waste their eggs on an almost but not quite guy. Camille Paglia says
>The male has to will his sexual authority before the woman who is a shadow of his mother and of all women. Failure and humiliation constantly wait in the wings. No woman has to prove herself a woman in the grim way a man has to prove himself a man. He must perform, or the show does not go on. Social convention is irrelevant. A flop is a flop.

>> No.20931901

>>20931885
For the record this is also why it's so important to know who you are and be confident in who you are at a much deeper level than the merely "social" level most of us now live at. That level is not for us, it's for women. For men the social level is a vehicle for doing other things, like being basically polite to other men during a work situation or a conversation about a real topic, or at least about stupid shit like keeping up with the joneses in banter at the country club. Women live entirely at that level of sociality though, they are in their element there, so it's extremely dangerous to have a merely social being as a man. If you are a boring nothing of a person, some smiling dickhead with an "okay" job and an Instagram account of you smiling effeminately on vacation in various locations you don't feel that passionate about and only went to because you "like" "fun" and "good food," you are basically a woman, which is essentially social, which is exactly what women are looking to escape.

Only in recent years have the neutered delta males who live naturally at that level begun to be normalized, and you can see the effects of it in how many millennial men are polyamorous (cuckolds) with lisps. But this makes it even more dangerous if you're a neuroatypical guy to try to survive at that level, because now you're not just in competition with women who instinctively despise and enslave men who are merely social, you are also in competition with a race of slime-beings who have somehow adapted to live in that zone.

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>>20931278
Nice revisionism, fag.

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>>20931099
lol it's cool im not upset at all, and we are cool
dago is too much of an oldfag to be bothered by such petty matters

I dont care about the fed stuff, I have been called a fed a million times and you certainly will not be the last.

but you should know that I have only been emboldened! I will groom my spiritual kshatriya ubermenschen whether you like it or not!!!

>> No.20933304

>>20931757
This. Unsure if the anon that you quoted is unaware or just trying to use history revisionism

>> No.20933725

>>20931757
doreen if he a boy

>> No.20933755

>>20930961
> but as you may understand I would prefer not to do that.
cuz ur effeminate and fucking weak bitch.
You want 2 fuck someone for having a curn, have them be submissive and traditional, but you cant fucking take charge and fulfil your own basic fucking roles because your physically weak, dysgenic and a coward

>> No.20933757

>>20933755
*cunt

>> No.20934762

>>20931377
>>20931885
>>20931901
Good posts and based

>> No.20934788

>>20931316
>>20931113
I can see it.
>>20931757
>>20931113
I don't see it.

>> No.20934795

>>20930961
He assumes a non-incel reader.

>> No.20935310

>>20930961
>he mentions that in order to attract the opposite sex you have to awake the primordial masculine aspect within yourself but however he doesn't get into any details on how to do this
Females like masculine males, as in, violent, muscular, assertive, etc.

>> No.20935324

>>20931757
Why do they look so similar? Fucking weird.
Is there something in the water?

>> No.20935862

>>20935310
True but that isn't what he means.

>> No.20935869

>>20931213
Are you fucking retarded? He was a registered democrat. This is where it comes from>>20931113
, stop trying to gaslight, juden.

>> No.20935876

>>20931302
You mean butthurt redditors have been spamming their shitty meme for years without finding a new one?

>> No.20935891

>>20931757
Why does he look remarkably like the r3ddit tranny?

>> No.20935893

>>20931377
>At the bare minimum he can at least teach you how dangerous it is to be ambiguously and indecisively androgynous around women.
What do you mean by this?

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>>20931477
Then why does everybody associate the chud with school shootings? That sounds like both a mystery and a danger. Chudinger's shooter.

>> No.20935908

>>20931377
>>20931885
>>20931901
Ya good posts. What kind of esotericism are you into?

>> No.20935922

>>20933304
>just trying to use history revisionism
Like lefturds do with communism and jews do with the holocaust? Oy vey! Right wingers using our dirty tactics? S-stop it you fascist!

>> No.20935925

>>20933755
Shut up you idiot nigger.

>> No.20935936

>>20935896
>Then why does everybody associate the chud with school shootings?
They don't, only delusional trannies do that, which means everyone now knows you're a disgusting trans freak. How does it feel?

>> No.20935955 [DELETED] 

>>20935930
That's not what he said, it's only one of the things he mentioned and not the first. And even then, the same thing applies. Women are attracted to all the qualities I mentioned above, even if young women are particularly slutty and shallow these days.

You have a small mind and you can't read. Why would you be on /lit/?

>> No.20935991

>>20935893
I think he means not being an autistic fag who doesn't say anything around women because it seems like he's scared, barely moves or barely/uncomfortably changes his neutral facial expression around them, is chubby/overweight but not even strong or imposing, or maybe you are tall and thin but more wormy than sexy. What else? Not being able to hold a woman's gaze. Having no center. Basically look at the average leftist "male" you'd see at a socialist meeting, they will give women massive "creep" vibes. Add to this if you want, I am "brainstorming".

I think we are conditioned to be that way by occult forces now. Instead you should be inwardly detached from things but extremely grounded, always present but relaxed, exuding confidence and competence (superiority). Although one problem I've observed with this is hurting the egos of weak/petty men around me in social situations. I will say something and they will try to match it or "fud" it. I don't care, you fags. But I will pretend to so you behave yourself.

>> No.20936009

>>20930961
I attract women, but they are too dumb, I can't stand it.
I cancelled an encounter just yesterday, a few hours before it happened. I just couldn't bring myself to stop studying, in order to talk to some random idiot amid loud monkey music in a violent and dirty metropolis on the off chance that I might stick my dick into her wet pussy when I could as well open my web browser and masturbate to porn featuring way hotter women (and no monkey music) then go back to my studies, physically relieved, as if nothing had happened.

Are women worth it in the age of porn?

I am not asking this question to those Christian wannabes who hate masturbation because it gives them ED (?), but rather to those who simply do not care, i.e., we the coomers.
Are women really worth it?
I know they are better than porn. I fucked six. It's way better.
But living in the French Riviera is probably better than living in my city. Doesn't mean I will redirect my life in extreme ways just so I can go to Cannes. And in order to get a girlfriend you do need to redirect your life in extremely ways, such as considerably diminishing the time you spend alone and your overall freedom.

>> No.20936025

>>20935991
>Having no center.
This is key, you can be an autistic freak and still have a center

Whatever you are, be the best version of it and bring out all its virtues and also understand that it's not going to appeal to every type of woman. Also fundamentally just do not care about whether women "like" you. Part of having a center means not caring if someone else likes you, because you already know you are "likeable." If you are a reflective person then this will have a combination of factors like being a good person, a moral person, an ambitious person whose life has meaning and who has goals. Einstein wouldn't care if some random cashier didn't "like" him. He's Einstein, he's literally always on his way to do something at least somewhat important, even if it's only going to look at some art at the museum for fun because his big Einstein brain needs cultural nourishment today to keep enriching the world with its contributions tomorrow.

We can't all be Einstein but we can all have self-respect and be a dignified person and a man first and foremost. You can literally get laid as a beanpole stinky non-showering Asian math prodigy with a unibrow or the fat autistic Marx expert in your local art hoe reading group or a funny looking bohemian rich loser who paints his fingernails if all your friends happen to be genderqueer Williamsburg girls who think it's cool you paint your fingernails and your confidence conveys substance.

Manipulative men can convey substance without having any. But it's easiest just to have actual substance, become self-aware and self-appreciating, and then as you mature you will learn by instinct what girls like your "type," and you will also learn a lot of non-instinctive things that surprise you and attract women you would be surprised are attracted to you.

None of this clashes necessarily with a realistic assessment of your situation if you are unbelievably ugly or 2 feet tall or something. Even then it's still "true" at the deepest level, you just have a highly exceptional case of it.

The only thing that is universally always bad with all women across the board is caring so much what they think of you (beyond what is morally and socially normal, obviously it's good to take normal criticism) that you feel like you have no reason to exist or to occupy space in some group. Even then women can see you as some kind of deep wallflower though. And it's absolutely true that if you're genetically gifted tier handsome they will project "he must be such a wallflower, I will unlock his secret hidden heart of gold" onto you even if you are an empty vessel, but again that is just something to be realistic about.

>> No.20936030

>>20931757
This was the real one, the redditor going on tucker was years later. They're just trying to sweep up low iqs to groom

>> No.20936045

>>20936009
Some men enjoy the social/play/flirt element, in that case it's definitely worth it. Those men have something wrong with them imo. Otherwise I don't think it is worthwhile unless it is only every once in a while. I think it's degenerate to masturbate all the time like it would be degenerate to have s** all the time. But if you do it only occasionally it could be worth it, especially if the woman is not overly annoying and attractive (>7/10).

>> No.20936055

>>20936030
He was a registered democrat, quit gaslighting, /pol/tard.

>> No.20936056

>>20934762
>>20935908
Thanks anons.

>What kind of esotericism are you into?
Evola is a good teacher but more neoplatonism as a foundation, and anything else really, I even like some theosophy but I stay away from Crowley type things. Just compare Evola's ideas on inner orientation and having a center like the above anon says with this from Plotinus, on inner attunement as a propaedeutic to gnosis rather than a technique for manipulating the material planes:
>And this inner vision, what is its operation? Newly awakened it is all too feeble to bear the ultimate splendour. Therefore the Soul must be trained—to the habit of remarking, first, all noble pursuits, then the works of beauty produced not by the labour of the arts but by the virtue of men known for their goodness: lastly, you must search the souls of those that have shaped these beautiful forms.

>But how are you to see into a virtuous soul and know its loveliness? Withdraw into yourself and look. And if you do not find yourself beautiful yet, act as does the creator of a statue that is to be made beautiful: he cuts away here, he smoothes there, he makes this line lighter, this other purer, until a lovely face has grown upon his work. So do you also: cut away all that is excessive, straighten all that is crooked, bring light to all that is overcast, labour to make all one glow of beauty and never cease chiselling your statue, until there shall shine out on you from it the godlike splendour of virtue, until you shall see the perfect goodness surely established in the stainless shrine.

>When you know that you have become this perfect work, when you are self-gathered in the purity of your being, nothing now remaining that can shatter that inner unity, nothing from without clinging to the authentic man, when you find yourself wholly true to your essential nature, wholly that only veritable Light which is not measured by space, not narrowed to any circumscribed form nor again diffused as a thing void of term, but ever unmeasurable as something greater than all measure and more than all quantity—when you perceive that you have grown to this, you are now become vision itself: now call up all your confidence, strike forward yet a step—you need a guide no longer—strain, and SEE.

I think the reason there aren't more "magicians" like Crowley is because white magic naturally makes you not care about manipulating things. It's like Alex Jones said:
>The elite are all about transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe, and they want to know all this, some are good some are bad some are a mix; but the good ones don't ever want to organize, the bad ones tend to want to organize because they lust after power. Powerful consciousnesses don't want to dominate other people, they want to empower them, so they don't tend to get together until things are really late in the game, then they come together and evil is always defeated.

>> No.20936063

>>20936025
Or anything talking about how the cheeks has been more or less exclusively Liberal in varying shades for the past couple centuries and that, a Western cheek today would probably be very different than that of the 1300s or whatever?
It always seems to me that the vague consensus is that Western cheeks will either fall to clapping or some kind of mandatory buttsex system in the near future, but what about all the systems of ass governance of antiquity or the medieval era? Those haven't really been tried outside of those eras.
Wouldn't the fact that we're living in drastically different material conditions among different ideologies and a broadly scientific buttcracks mean that these systems could be applied very anally?
In other words, who's to say that Western anal democracy are the most optimal system for this kind of world?

>> No.20936070

No gf for old incels

Gfs? Sold out

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>> No.20936109

>>20936056
Great quote. I have only read a little Plotinus but we seem to be speaking the same language. I was the one who wrote about having a center. Evola obviously writes about that a lot, but even in the fundamental symbols of Sun and Moon in alchemy this concept of poles or masculinity defined as having a center is illustrated clearly. Esotericism is correct.

>> No.20936120

>>20936056
>Alex Jones
Where can I find that video? All I can find are the stupid music video remixes.

>> No.20936161

>>20936109
I agree, your post was good too. I've been trying to understand Jung a bit lately too in this connection, but I was hoping for more Evola style esoteric symbolism and less Eliade style comparison with particular myths.

>>20936120
The best one is the one that overlays it with the Deus Ex conversation music:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MqxSo4RGkXQh/
A higher res version on Youtube had tons of views back in the day but obviously that had to go.

That whole Rogan episode is really worth watching, it's basically all like that. I remember the day I listened to it, I was at work doing some task by myself lost in the shelves for hours, and it was like I was getting hit by a cold breeze the entire time. I can't really explain it. It's nothing new if you're already into this stuff but somehow the whole vibe of it had that effect, and if you read the science/simulation talk allegorically it connects with a lot of esoteric ideas. It was also the episode that started the trend of Rogan getting into trouble for being an alt right Nazi or whatever.

>> No.20936176

>>20936055
Regardless of his political affiliations, he was the first incel soijack. The redditor on tucker was like a year ago

>> No.20936193

>>20936045
Sex is good. More the better, generally.

>> No.20936194

>>20936161
I meant to say, cool breeze, as in refreshing and invigorating. Oddly enough I had another almost mystical experience in the same back shelves warehouse area once when I was reflecting on how one of my managers was purely nice and charitable to people even when there was no reward for it, and I somehow pictured him as a thing that resists or defeats the "logic" of entropy, by not being explainable in logical terms. Somehow his pure act of will against the world's cold logic, of being kind and gentle no matter what material reality "gave" him, was a refutation of the modern assumption that something like kindness is just a function of psychological and social background. It made me understand caritas and agape more.

But it was more than just intellectual or conceptual, it was like I was flooded with joy and desire to affirm life, different from any material or sensuous happiness. Like what Colin Wilson says at the beginning of The Occult about moments when the "web" of meaning seems to light up and reveal its interconnections going off in all directions.

>> No.20936203

>>20936056
You’re not a man if you don’t lust for power.

>> No.20936238

>>20936203
Women lust for power too you asshole, arguably more

>> No.20936243

>>20936238
Yeah for an iphone charger to power another 16 hours of instagramming

>> No.20936257

>>20936109
I wrote a schizopost in the Guenon discord touches on free will, the mind, and having a center. Would anyone like to read it?

>> No.20936259

>>20936161
Not a fan of Jungian alchemy, since as far as I know he wasn't even open to the idea of the doctrine of immortal bodies, which is the whole point of (inner) alchemy. Maybe to interpret some limited symbolism he could be useful. Evola's book is a really good entry-point.

>> No.20936288

>>20936193
So is porn when you don't have a guilty conscience (like Christian-educated people do, which is why they go to nofap).

>> No.20936308

>>20930961
Dude you're doing it wrong. Read his magic stuff and try to get some wiccan sloots to start babbling about their own garbage, then mention you're also into magic and impress them with your knowledge and meme rituals. Not that wiccan women require even a fraction of that go get into their pants but if that's the way you want to do it then that's the way it works

>> No.20936340

>>20936238
Women lust for a good cunt-filling.

>> No.20936346

>>20936288
Porn is fine as long as it’s not keeping you from seeking real pussy.

>> No.20936479

>>20936308
>telling the profane about your esoteric practices
You nigger.

>> No.20936482

>>20936340
>>20936346
>le sex!
Gay

>> No.20936780

>>20936161
Which episode of JRE? Give me the episode number.

>> No.20936840

>>20936346
Why?
Why exactly?

>> No.20936849

>>20936840
It’s hot

>> No.20936868

>>20936479
It’s ok if you are riding the tiger

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>>20930961
Read Bakker. If you're a Logos driven machine intellect then crimes aren't bad because you don't enjoy doing them, while at the same time, it isn't rape if you've brainwashed them into accepting it.

Even if you haven't reached this level, sometimes you need to be a sexual beast to cow your enemies. Even a barbarian like Cnauir realized this. The way to defeat a proud elite general? Drag him off before his men, turn him into your woman.

Some lessons have to be taught...

>> No.20937022

>>20936346
I think porn is incredibly dangerous for everybody but some kind of niche tantric practitioner who is using it with complete self-control and good self-knowledge already. The main problem with it is that it creates intense symbolic cathexes, which is exactly what esoteric and theosophical symbology is supposed to do as well, and even the techniques and mantras used in meditation are similar, but the key difference being that in porn the cathexes are way higher energy than a normal person can deal with responsibly (because they are channeling the enormous energy of sexual lust) into things that are totally arbitrary unless tightly controlled.

With a mantra or esoteric diagram you are effectively doing a sort of memory palace thing that becomes more "lived in" over time, your mind bonds with it and it starts to reveal underlying substructures within the initial structure which was hard to hold onto at first, but has now become reflexive and can sort of expand like a fractal to subordinate layers or sub-aspects. This is already potentially dangerous for the obvious reason that by itself this is basically just autism, you can just as easily use this to memorize something completely unesoteric and having nothing to do with metaphysical reality, hence the memory palace phenomenon. When such a symbolic structure supposed to be applied to esoteric phenomena becomes reified, its function inverts, and it becomes a block to further insight and development rather than a vehicle. That's why it's necessary to always attune any such structure to the esoteric phenomena in question, dialectically adjusting the structures of thought to the intuitive experiences, which can only be done when there is a healthy balance between the two.

Porn is like an unconsciously free-floating memory palace fractal-generator that has no necessary connection to anything but sexual lust, which in an average person is highly "active" in consciousness, but in the way a berserker rage would, by being a blind force that simply dominates it and pushes it from behind. You are basically sitting there with your undifferentiated lust behind you, your confused assemblage of instinctive symbols "in your eyes," and your lust is pushing you forward into where the symbols "take" you, fractalizing them into new patterns in a kind of ouija board self-generating fashion with no intent behind it. Instead of being "in front" of the symbols and beyond them like a metaphysical phenomenon, thus "pulling" on the symbols to become adequate to itself, lust is "behind" and merely pushing, causing mindless and effectively random symbolic differentiation.

>> No.20937027

>>20937022
A much simpler way to put this is that male autism is a hell of a drug, especially when given an infinite fuel source. When you waste ten thousand hours playing Counter-Strike and you find that your mind somehow knows every single corner of every single map by heart (but you're retarded and a useless person otherwise), or you waste 30 years learning about Marvel comics lore or editing Wookiepedia, you are tapping into the same male autism brain ability for creating infinite mental maps to live within forever, you are creating your own personalized wookie nightmare castle with perfect nade setup spots. What "impels" men to do this is loneliness and boredom, basically a desire to be doing SOMETHING, which is a relatively mild drive and prone to lapsing into boredom and drifting off to do something else (possibly something productive).

But porn is an autism hobby with an infinite fuel source like I said above. You start off by sitting there at the computer with only relatively, potentially differentiated sexual fetishes, say you have a vague predilection for dominance and submission, and you have only the faintest hints of curiosity about homosexuality. But your lust pushes you forward, and these symbols differentiate and develop pseudo-randomly, because you are chasing "better" and "more accurate" experiences of what arouses you. You start with basic porn but within a short time you have more specific tastes, a specific kind of girl for example, because your desire to witness dominance and degradation has now "noticed" within the pseudo-random field of potential experiences (porn choices) that girls with glasses turn you on more, because unconsciously you associate this with innocence, and despoiling innocence is a form of degradation. You don't notice this, you think you are just "liking" glasses porn. But soon glasses porn becomes your default starting point. But then it can't be just any old glasses porn, it has to be some weird shit that no longer even corresponds to reality, like some guy on protein supplements ejaculating half a pint onto the girl's face. And it can't just be on her face, he has to get it on the glasses for the symbolic resonance to really activate for you. You instinctively know how to sort through huge cumshot glasses porn that isn't "good" (symbolically resonant) enough, so that the girls are hot enough, the ejaculations are copious enough, the glasses are struck directly by the semen, etc.

>> No.20937034

>>20937027
But this is all taking place within a matrix of other symbols you are also developing, which then begins to tighten up and create interconnections. Now seemingly unrelated symbols start to interact. Now you notice you like it even more when the girls are fucked painfully in the ass before the blowjob, because ass to mouth is extra degrading, and of course soon you have to see proof of the painal and get the thrill of knowing it's real, and being real means it has to border on rape. Now you can only get off on a baseline of weird porn from one of three studios that pick desperate or confused women and actually abuse them horribly. But soon you notice there are "better" and "worse" videos within this field, and you only want to watch the "best" (most symbolically adequate expressions of desire to see maximum degradation of innocence) ones. You begin to drift toward extremely degrading painal rape and ass to mouth porn from sleazy foreign porn studios, now you don't even care what the girl looks like as much as you did when you first started out (when you were normal), as long as there is "real" pain, real disgust. Now you've unlocked new levels of symbolic cathexis, now you've unconsciously picked up on your own demonic tantric thrill at feeling actually disgusted by what you see, now you are not just pushing the boundaries of what disgusts you but racing towards disgust for disgust's sake.

It's not long until you don't care whether it's a man or a woman being painally raped, and of course, at many points along this journey you may have been flirting with whatever homosexual tendencies you have, which are easier and easier to unlock as the symbolic "payoff" of sex becomes more and more abstracted from any actual concrete aspect of the real people involved. If you barely care whether the girl is hot anymore, why should you care whether it's a girl at all? Maybe it's even more degrading to do it to man. Maybe you want to be degraded, and that's the ultimate taboo. Pretty soon you're a furry with a sex change in a polyamorous relationship with a fat girl because she "has your kinks." But they were never your kinks, you were just chasing the dragon and building the wookiepedia pain palace for yourself one stone at a time. You can't even get off normally anymore, all you can do is throw perfectly timed smokes from mid into your fat hog BDSM wife's blown out pussy.

All this can happen within a single year of a teenage boy watching porn. That's why women complain these days that every boyfriend they get is into autistic fantasy scenarios derived from porn, and it's why so common for men to become bisexual and gay. Evola unironically talks about this in The Bow and the Club, he says most gay men are not even really gay, they're just getting off on autistic abstractions.

>> No.20937042

>>20937034
Those trannies who listen to sissy hypnosis videos and get addicted to chasing the dragon of debauchery are basically upside-down and inside-out tantric flesh puppets who zombified themselves, they are the exact inverse of what you are supposed to do with tantric sex, instead of bringing symbolic energy control into sex they just submitted themselves to whatever free-floating symbols they found in the "culture" (pornhub algorithms) surrounding them. That's also why trannies have nothing to do with so-called two-spirits or Thai ladyboys, which are culturally STABLE forms of androgynous symbolic construction (see the book by Elemire Zolla). That is totally different from trannies, trannies are more like people who disintegrated their capacity for authentic human manifestation so that algorithmically generated porn tropes could manifest pseudo-three-dimensionally as holograms and walk around, using them as a husk to pseudo-exist in the material world.

Because of the tremendous energy available in sex it is theoretically possible that a person with perfect self-control could dabble in and experiment with porn to experiment consciously with different fantasies and symbolic cathexes, which he would then only willingly and consciously take up. But anyone that mentally and spiritually powerful is not going to be sitting around jacking off to porn anyway.

All of this can be expressed in thinner materialistic terms too, via the dopamine and serotonin connection. Jerking off for too long creates an amphetamine trip's worth of both chemicals and focuses them on whatever it is you're doing. You are basically getting yourself addicted to an algorithmically generated furry fetish website if you do that.

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>>20937042
>>20937034
>>20937027
>>20937022
get a substack, no one cares

>> No.20937201

>>20937122
cared enough to reply

kys

>> No.20937205

>>20935324
>Why do they look so similar?
They are the same race.

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>>20937122
>substack
Not only do I not want to make money for writing about coom symbolism and tranny golems, I do not want to make money at all. In fact I want to give money away, I want to abolish money and all memory of money's existence.

>> No.20937226

>>20937122
It was pretty good

>> No.20937269

>>20936056
based neoplatonist

>> No.20938337

>>20937042
why am I addicted to tiktok thots with huge tits and asses? am I like a tranny? thankfully for my wallet, I don't even care for their OFs. seeing them naked takes away a little bit of the fun.

>> No.20938344

>>20931377
Which of his books do you recommend reading on this? The Metaphysics of Sex?

>> No.20938376

>>20937122
I have no idea why retarded golem faggots like you bother browsing /lit/ -- the LITERATURE board -- when you are incapable of reading anything more than a sentence long. You should be drawn and quartered.

>> No.20938412

>>20930969
>>20931113
the tranny didnt inspire that. she just went on that fox news show and got btfo for being totally unprepared.

>> No.20938447

>>20930961
>How do you get a gf according to Evola?
You don't. Evola scares the whole.

>> No.20938461

>>20930961
Just be yourself, bro (in the fullest ontological sense of the word).

>> No.20938487

>>20938461
Keked

>> No.20938803

>>20931377
>>20931885
>>20931901
Now I'm curious: what dos Evola think of arranged marriages? One would think they are le trad, but by these posts, it seems that free love is the optimal way for men and women to BE themselves.

>> No.20938858

>>20930961
>How do you get a gf according to Evola?
Ride the tiger. You either take women or they flock to you once you're magnificent.

>> No.20939145

So, from what I've gathered, if you want Evola's insights into the metaphysics of daily life, you want:
>Bow and the Club
>Metaphysics of Sex
>Ride the Tiger
I don't know if I want to dive fully into Evola's world of Traditionalism, because as much as I respect him, I think my worldview overcomes him. But I'm fascinated by what he could teach about living life to the fullest.

>> No.20939153

>>20939145
metaphysics of sex and yoga of power

>> No.20939154

>>20938461
>Just be yourself, bro (in the fullest ontological sense of the word).
based and unironically this

>> No.20939166

>>20939145
>I think my worldview overcomes him
If you can't hold your breath at will to the point where you completely black out and resume automatic respiration, you haven't overcome him (which is not to say that you've definitely overcome him even if you're capable of this).

>> No.20939438

>>20938412
>she
>h
>e

>> No.20940625

>>20938803
Something something inferior races

>> No.20940630

>>20938412
>she
Stop bullying it, chud.

>> No.20940634

>>20939166
I wish I were a drawfag so bad right now

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These books are pretty epic.

>> No.20941123

>>20936780
911

>> No.20941221

>>20930961
>how to get a gf or bf according to Ebola

Be rich, aristocratic and pretentious socialite, just like Ebola himself.

>> No.20941798

>>20941221
Evola wasn't rich or a socialite. He looked down on these things.

>> No.20941806

Can someone post the screencap of the leftypol retard claiming he was cursed by esoteric hitlerists?

>> No.20941850

>>20940634
>t. does not even have power over his body's vegetative functions

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>>20941806
I got you, bro.

>> No.20941891

>>20941878
Kek. Thanks.

>> No.20941898

>>20941878
KEK I'm not reading this shit but this made me chuckle .

>> No.20941914

>>20930961
You don't, if you are ask yourself this, you shouldn't be reading him.

>> No.20942707

>>20937122
>/lit/

>>20937034
good posts. It appears someone has already screencapped them as well.

>> No.20942798

>>20931377
based effortposter

>> No.20942905

>>20937213
based mammon hater

>> No.20943461

>>20941878
lmao
reminds me of the
>new discord rule: no werewolf rape in the astral realm. I'm talking about you azuul

>> No.20943478

>>20930961
>Evola
who?

>> No.20943525

>>20936288
My issue with porn is that it basically makes you a cuckold.
You’re masturbating to the sight of another man fucking a woman you wish you were fucking.
You don’t have this problem if you fap to your imagination.

>> No.20943732

>>20937034
I don't know what might be wrong with me but I personally never experienced kink radicalization ever since I started masturbating despite everyone saying that it's a huge danger for men, if anything, I lost my weirder kinks that stemmed from the wishful and unrealistic fantasies of my youth and developed a taste for more classically masculine sexual kinks. I'm also obviously not some grand master of tantra, either.

>> No.20945152

>>20936025
>>20935991
>I think he means not being an autistic fag who doesn't say anything around women because it seems like he's scared, barely moves or barely/uncomfortably changes his neutral facial expression around them,
How the fuck do i change that. I am a 25 ,shut in, friendless in a 16k pop shithole. The only thing i do is go to work and save money. I don`t even know where to start.

>> No.20945663

>>20943461
Kek, do you have a screnecap of that?

>> No.20946895

>>20943732
me neither. idk why

>> No.20946952

>>20930961
The first step is not being neurotically obsessed with women and making this thread. The second is to ignore any advice you receive on 4chan (including this post). One thing you need to understand about women is that they are essentially paradoxical. People that go about trying to understand women do not understand them. Try to exploit this. Mix yourself up, be interesting, care when they don’t care and don’t care when they care. And if you don’t succeed in attracting them, learn how to enjoy yourself instead.

>> No.20946985

>>20935310
women don't want to marry warriors, they want emperors and noblemen

>> No.20947058

>>20936161
>>20936194
Fascinating you should mention the alex jones appearance on joe rogan. I myself had a profound realization from another thing he said. Its a shame he covers news and isnt a podcaster himself. He has much more interesting things to say than his conspiracies on current events.

>> No.20947070

>>20931000
>Septic Shock
Who?
>Septic Death
More like it

>> No.20947095

>>20947058
Watch this
https://youtu.be/SCponm17qQQ

Charles Upton, someone who was greatly influenced by Guenon (and mentions Evola in his works) says that Alex Jones is pretty spot on, but he just doesn’t know how to root it all in metaphysics.

If you like the three part video, I would recommend his two works “System of the Antichrist” & “Vectors of the Counter-Initiation” (you should probably read guénons “Crisis of the modern world” & “reign of quantity” first tho)
It’s extremely rewarding
https://youtu.be/HSQ_DS6nrzw

>> No.20947119

>>20947095
I will check these out. What I was referring to specifically was Alex talking about having ancestral memories, and how instinct is epigenetic. He brought up a study where baby chicks, which had never been exposed to predators, knew to be afraid of the specific shape of a hawk flying overhead. This totally put into perspective the collective unconscious for me.

>> No.20947123

>>20947119
Have you read Rupert Sheldrake's morphic resonance thesis? Like things (like a species but not limited to that) have "memory fields," and like or routine experiences build up memory without necessarily acting on material bits like genes

>> No.20947132

>>20947119
>epigenetic memories
If everybody has foreknowledge of everything baked into their DNA, then how does anything happen ever? Why do chicks get eaten by hawks then? They should know better.

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>>20947119
>One other remark of no less importance is that there may be transmission of psychic elements from one being to another without this supposing the death of the first; in fact, that there is a psychic heredity as well as a physiological heredity is hardly in doubt and is even a fact of common observation. But what few take into account is that at the least it supposes that the parents furnish a psychic seed as well as a biological seed. And, potentially, this seed may involve a very complex ensemble of elements pertaining to the domain of the ‘subconscious’, besides tendencies and predispositions properly so called, which, as they expand, manifest themselves outwardly. These ‘subconscious’ elements may, on the contrary, not become apparent except in rather exceptional circumstances. This is the double heredity, both psychic and corporeal, expressed in the Chinese formula: ‘You will live again in your thousands of descendents’

>> No.20947279

>>20947123
I have not, I will check it out. I'm very interested in this realm of ideas, and I hardly ever see it talked about. I believe at the very lowest point of the psyche there is a secret pool of knowledge from every ancestor in your lineage which we cannot directly access. The aggregate of this information can be called the collective unconscious, or the will, and it reveals itself occasionally in the forms of instincts and archetypes. The blood memories are compounded and added to by each generation, subtly guiding the descision making of the next.
>>20947132
The chicks do know better, but so does the hawk, guided by his own foreknowledge in defeating the chicks. They battle endlessly, each generation becoming slightly more adept at survival. Neverending metaphysical evolution.
>>20947139
What is this from?

>> No.20947281

>>20947139
le heckin' valid assertion without empirical proof

>> No.20947285

>>20947279
Spiritist fallacy by Guenon

>> No.20947310

>>20947285
Much appreciated. It's almost exactly what im trying to get at. Do you know of any other writing which describes this? It's really the only thing i've found myself interested by in the past year. What is your opinion on this phenomenon?

>> No.20947535

>>20947310
>What is your opinion on this phenomenon?
idk
I mean jews talk about inherited trauma from the holocaust
there is probably some truth to that
>Do you know of any other writing which describes this?
not really, but I too often think about that Alex Jones bit

>> No.20947617

>>20947535
The jews are just milking it. In my mind the ancestors farthest back in time have the biggest impact on our psychology due to quantity, the most recent generation having the littlest impact if any. Think of it visually like a giant funnel, concentrated towards a single point which is you or I. Our instincts are primal and ancient. The mouth of the funnel at the top, holds the most information. The oldest of blood memories make up the majority, and have the largest influence. I wish I could share a webm of an alex jones clip, but the file size is too large for this board. Personally I doubt Jones really dreamed an ancestors memory as he claimed, but the dream he described was very archetypal. I believe the memories to be inaccessable and broken down into other forms in the subconscious, but I wish it were possible, to relive like assasins creed.

>> No.20948574

Bump

>> No.20948588

>>20945152
> where to start
move.

>> No.20948590

>>20930961
> I was reading the metaphysics of sex and he mentions that in order to attract the opposite sex you have to awake the primordial masculine aspect within yourself
So I guess just talking to a girl at a party is my primordial masculine aspect? Cuz that’s how I got my gf. Tinder also really worked well during my manwhore phase

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>>20930961
The question is not how to get a gf, but should you get a girlfriend. If you truly are a differentiated man, then you will find no meaning in women.

>> No.20949597

>>20948590
The thing is I don't really want to move. I bought an apartment and I am renting it for ez money and soon I will buy a 2nd one. I don't see any better opportunity to move.

>> No.20949981

>>20947279
Why do animals make mistakes that have nothing to do with anticipating other animals, like a cat missing their jump and smacking its jaw on the edge of a table?