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The ruling party of Poland, PIS, has introduced in 2022 a wholesale school reform in the History category.

History class has been divided into 3 distinct classes:
>Polish History
>World History
and 1 bonus Redpill Class:
>History & Modernity

pic related is from a History & Modernity textbook. part of the Polish New Deal

>> No.20913592
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Pic 2 from Redpill Class

all 3 History classes are mandatory. History & Modernity is redpilled in a kind of /lit/ way, a kind of post-Marxist/Shinzo Abe way.

The chapter in the 2nd pic is titled
>Culture and family in the eyes of the West

>> No.20913595

how long until PO is back in power? they're the leftist euro globalist party right?

>> No.20913602

>>20913588
Based Poland.

>> No.20913653

>>20913595
see if nick soldo has given any predictions. if the russians and the looming economic collapse result in the EU being more directly integrated with the american order, poland will have absolutely no options but to be brought to heel. if the EU instead becomes weaker then it might not.

>> No.20913656

>PiS is... LE BASED
the absolute state

>> No.20913681

>>20913653
meh, the EU has no power, if the pressure becomes negative for us, we will leave and cooperate with Ukraine. in fact this is a contingency plan that is already being carried out. PiS is based and you unironically need to trust the plan. PiS has in fact spent the last few years on digging into the political system, even in the event of an electoral loss. Kaczynski's got Poland covered. without going into Putin's direction like dumb Orban. Kaczynski is the true statesman for the 21st century

>> No.20913710

>>20913681
if poland is hostile to both an american-controlled EU and to russia, how would PiS be able to politically survive economic sanctions and corresponding decline in living standards?

>> No.20913715
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I'm mad at the piss party. I hope we vote for the poo party!

>> No.20913721

>>20913710
PiS is more or less pro-American (just not big on Biden), and simply anti-Germany. They want to position Poland like South Korea, Japan or Turkey.

>> No.20913732

>>20913588
>spent half a decade whining about leftist ideology being pushed onto children
>when the other side does it it's le based
classic /pol/

>> No.20913737

>>20913592
Those are not brackets but quotation marks stupid twitter faggot.
Also, this will not make Poland less gay (it is, as you all know, the gayest country of Europe), they are like 5 or 10 years behind on the white hatred/race sensitivity crap but time will take its course, no matter what's in the fucking history books lmao.

>> No.20913739

>>20913721
>PiS is more or less pro-American
the question is whether the american state is pro-PiS when according to american propaganda PiS is committing genocide against LGBT people

>>20913732
yes. teaching evil things is bad and teaching good things is good.

>> No.20913749

>>20913732
Faggot go home

>> No.20913753

>>20913739
>teaching evil things is bad and teaching good things is good.
I agree, which is why propaganda from ruling parties has no place in the classroom, no matter from which side it comes from.

>> No.20913760

>>20913749
Been here longer than you, election tourist.

>> No.20913763

>>20913753
what should children be taught to believe? rand?

>> No.20913775

>>20913739
the Reps are totally pro-PiS, the Dems used to be more anti-PiS but since Ukraine they've gone soft and eased pressure greatly. PiS Poland is good for America.

>> No.20913786

>>20913753
Be honest, the BLM is antiwhite. You are just seeing a reaction to that negativity. "Reverse racist is not racist" is american standpoint now.

>> No.20913984

>>20913715
Waiting for a scandal in Poland called the PiS tape

>> No.20913992

>>20913732
more like
>spent half a decade explaining how it's unfair to use social and cultural engineering in a liberal society to generate an inorganic anti-white ideology
>nobody listened
>spent the next half decade realizing "i guess 'explaining' doesn't mean shit and it's rule or be ruled"
leave it to a leftist to live in a liberal society, abuse that society mercilessly to try to engineer outcomes he wants, and then get mad at others for doing the same back when they are on the brink of becoming a subjugated minority in their own homes.

at least a fascist just says openly he's going to do everything in his power to take power from you, you faggots are so implicitly reliant on the liberal worldview that you think it exists just to coddle you. you think you can bend it and break it to suit your purposes for a century, but if anyone bends it back you go crying to liberalism and suddenly respect the rules again

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>>20913588

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>>20914018
Fuck

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>>20913588
It would be more helpful to teach about the self-hate of white American "liberals" in general.
BLM is just one of many symptoms of that.

>> No.20914057

>>20914053
Success and intelligence breed excessive experimentation, naive confidence, and general neuroticism

Whites replaced their endogenous religious traditions with the white savior mythology of "universal democracy/liberalism." It'll be over soon enough, thankfully with a good number of whites left to re-subjugate the earth

>> No.20914067

Jebac PiS

>> No.20914073

>>20913588
OH MY GOD!!!! You mean a history textbook mentions BLMr?!?! Clearly they are brainwashing everyone! A proper history textbook would not mention it even though it's a major political movement.

>> No.20914106

>>20914073
It's a Polish history book, though. It's kinda depressing to see them so americanized. They should turn off the amerimutt media and start from the greeks.

>> No.20914120

>>20914106
>>20914073
polish kids will have to do a presentation on gamergate and vidya journalism

>> No.20914140

>>20914106
>They should turn off the amerimutt media and start from the greeks.
We do though. Both History and Polish class start from the Ancient times: Neolithic Revolution, first civilizations, Greek and Roman history, Greek and Roman philosophy, Greek and Roman literature, the Bible, St Augustine, etc.

>> No.20914155

>>20914018
People should follow them all home and kill every single one of them in their sleep.

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Here's the cover of the textbook.

>> No.20914177

the whole thing is a /pol/ boomer ranting about leftists and germans, perhaps redpilled but hardly a respectable textbook
funniest part is when he talks about music, Bob Dylan is LE BAD, The Beatles are LE BAD, Pink Floyd is LE BAD, Woodstock festival was a catastrophe, punk as a whole is the worst thing that happened to civilization, symphonic rock tho is pretty good I like Yes and Genesis and King Crimson

>> No.20914185

>>20914177
that's absolutely based and correct tho

>> No.20914203

>>20914106
It's just one portion of one page. Show us the entire book and let us judge. Anyway, BLM is (for better or worse) an international movement. It has an effect in Europe as well as North America.

>> No.20914225

>>20914174
It could be a LOT worse. I went to school in Oklahoma and I didn't even hear about evolution until after I graduated high school.

>> No.20914286

>>20913732
The problem of leftist ideology being pushed onto children isn't the it's pushed onto children part, it's the leftist part. Subhuman freaks spreading their filth is bad.

>> No.20914392

>>20913732
>the other side
stop lumping everything that isn't communism in with the neo-fascists. identity politics on the right and the left have more commonalities with each other than either does with, for instance, the libertarians, who opposed propaganda in classrooms back then still do so now.

>> No.20914436

>>20914106
>It's kinda depressing to see them so americanized.
Our children are already americanized, that's just an attempt (and probably a futile one at that) at arresting further development.
>They should turn off the amerimutt media and start from the greeks.
They already introduced a new subject which will teach the kids rudiments of Latin and ancient culture. Too bad it won't be very comprehensive like the ones they have in Italy but that's better than nothing.
https://notesfrompoland.com/2020/07/21/poland-adds-latin-to-core-curriculum-to-help-pupils-understand-foundation-of-western-civilisation/
The thing that enrages me the most in this country is a complete absence of right wing cultural discourse which is above the Tucker Carlson-tier level of "cultural Marxists are going to turn our kids into Satanists with sissy hypno". Journals and websites aimed at an educated man of conservative sensibility

>> No.20914449

>>20914286
>The Other Side is evil! I hate the Other Side!
Refreshing take you have there.

>> No.20914454

posting in a directionbrain thread!

>> No.20914621

>>20914436
>Journals and websites aimed at an educated man of conservative sensibility
why would anyone be aiming at a demographic that doesn't exist

>> No.20914671

>>20913739
This >>20913775
we support de facto neonazis, and condone arab slavery. as long as msm points the rage-finger at russia and china, we will continue to ignore atrocities everywhere else. a textbook is nowhere near an atrocity except maybe the communist manifesto.

>> No.20914680

>>20914436
>>20914621
who is the italian equivalent of pat buchanan?

>> No.20914728

>>20913595

Eh they’ll likely have to have a three way coalition with Polska 2050 and KOD (also the miscellaneous parties like Lewica Razem).

They won’t be able to clean up all the mess and someone will replace them.

>> No.20914729

>>20914436
>complete absence of right wing cultural discourse which is above the Tucker Carlson-tier level of "cultural Marxists are going to turn our kids into Satanists with sissy hypno".
That's not true. There's plenty of options, ranging from old writings by Dmowski and Stachniuk, to Krasnodębski, Klub Jagielloński, modern Polish nationalists, Palade, Rafał Woś, Zybertowicz, there's plenty of options, and on the dumber but still "intellectual" side wRealu24 and Karoń

>> No.20914744

>>20913656

They broke the education system completely, constantly try to silence the media, raise taxes constantly, caused the current inflation, worsened the odra disaster, basically cause a new horrible disaster every month.

They are the third worst government Poland had in its history and, and seeing how the top two are the nazis and the reds that’s really quite the achievement.

>> No.20914749

>>20913681

Well the problems will start to happen when Kaczyński kicks the bucket, which is likely going to happen soon.

>> No.20914753

>>20914680
Nothing quite like him but the equivalent to Buchanan's master strategist Francis is probably in Casa Pound

>> No.20914757

>>20914749
Lol no, Kaczynski is still young and very alive intellectually, he will outlast Tusk who has gotten too comfortable. Kaczynski has unmatched energy and passion. He's just 72 and lived, honestly, a pampered /lit/ lifestyle, he could remain eminence grise for at least 10 years still. In that time he could sufficiently prepare PiS for the time after Him (the responsibility will probably fall on Morawiecki)

>> No.20914795

>>20914757

Mati? Really? That man is just a drone, similar to Duda, just a yes man to do Kaczors bidding.

It’s going to be Ziobro who wins unless someone comes out of the woodworks.

It’s certainly going to be fun to watch after I’ll get out of this Radom of a country.

>> No.20914802

>>20913592
Both "black" and "white" music are artificial creations by marketers, who, noticing that sales increased with the division of folk musics into the categories "country" and "rhythm & blues", have torn our great country asunder by their creation of rock & roll, hip hop, and other noises.

>> No.20914827

>>20914795
Yeah, either Morawiecki or Obajtek.

Consider this. Kaczyński is Lenin. The Thinker.
He fears Ziobro. Ziobro is the Stalin.
Kaczyński needs someone more like Trotsky. That's Morawiecki, or Obajtek. Either could do.

>> No.20914860

>>20914827

But Stalin won out in the end, so will ziobro.

What I’m most concerned with is the loose cannon, meaning Czarnek. The man is known to be both completely retarded and unpredictable. If he can get the support of the church then he might win out.

>> No.20914869

>>20914860
Stalin was gensec. Back then they didn't know:
>the long-term importance of the position
>Stalin's ulterior motives

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Gazeta Wyborcza, "the Electoral" Gazette, Polish newspaper of record, said this about Roszkowski, the author of this textbook
>Dugin and Roszkowski stood in one house
>The ideologues of the PiS right in Poland and Putinism in Russia are unanimously lamenting the allegedly declining European civilization.
>Witold Gadomski

>Professor Wojciech Roszkowski has almost nothing in common with Aleksander Dugin, a gloomy Russian philosopher praising the greatness of Eurasian Russia. And yet, reading the texts of both thinkers, one gets the impression that in many cases both gentlemen would find a common language.

>Here are excerpts from Dugin's essay "The Flight of Apollo or the Abyss called" Modern Europe "":

>“The spread of Christianity (…) initiated a revival of the Indo-European foundations of culture, which culminated in the European Middle Ages. Towards the end of the Middle Ages, the urban 'civil society' looks up again, the role of the 'merchant class' grows - and finally the bourgeois Europe of England , Holland and Franceultimately consolidates the normative democratic social model. The main figure of this Europe of modern times is the burgois (merchant, entrepreneur, businessman), who in classical Indo-European societies was either on the periphery or was absent at all (...) The analysis of the French philosopher Georges Dumézil shows that with the appearance of bourgeois, alien to Indo-European society, New Age Europe has moved far away from the Indo-European paradigm. Other authors who applied the civilization approach (Spengler, Danilewski, Sorokin et al.) Agreed that the cycle of European civilization had entered the phase of decline. Their theories suggest that in the history of European civilization as a whole, the modern moment is a final phase, an era of decline, degradation and agony. This means that after Europe's childhood, which fell on Greco-Roman antiquity, and in its mature age in the European Middle Ages, the European Logos entered the last, third phase of its cycle. (…) According to René Guénon, European modernism has become an expression of anti-civilization, the embodiment of everything that is against spirit, Tradition, and holiness. Secularization, humanism, naturalism, mechanicism and rationalism, according to Guénon, are manifestations of a spirit of perversion that affects all societies, but which only in modern Europe has acquired such an absolute and complete embodiment, has been elevated to the rank of norm and principle. Traditional societies have known periods of degradation too, but modern Europe has built an anti-society in the full sense in which all normal proportions are violated: the divine transcendent dimension is rejected,

https://wyborcza.pl/7,75968,28837142,dugin-i-roszkowski-w-jednym-stali-domu.html

1/3

>> No.20914879

Why are leftist extremists surprised that they resulted right wing extremism?

People don't react well to sociopathic perverts and racist minority defenders.

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>Let's move on to professor Roszkowski. He wrote several long books about the crisis of European civilization, the most famous of which is "The Shattered Mirror. The collapse of Western civilization ", fragments of which he published in the famous textbook" History and the Present ". In it, he proves, like Dugin and the philosophers on whom the Russian refers, that the West has lost the moral sources of law which had been the compass of civilization for centuries.

>Europe is dying like ancient Rome
>Roszkowski's views are well reflected in the interview conducted with the professor by the conservative journalist Łukasz Warzecha ("Why, while doubting Darwin's theory, am I treated as a heretic?", Dziennik Gazeta Prawna, December 24, 2020)

>When asked if we are in a similar situation to the Romans in the 5th century, who did not notice that their world was ending, the professor replied: “The 5th century in the Western Roman Empire is a good point of reference. Of course, the historical decorations are different, but then there were similar doubts as today (...). In general, the socio-political elites of the time either did not notice the seriousness of the situation or were helpless against it. Answering the question - I was wondering if it was the end or the crash or the twilight. "

>I am not a specialist in ancient history, and probably not professor Roszkowski, but it seems to me that Rome fell under the pressure not of foreign ideas, but of Germanic tribes. Well, unless the professor is referring to Christianity, which became the ruling religion in the empire from the end of the 4th century, and pagan beliefs were banned. Tolerance for many beliefs has been replaced by the monopoly of one faith and the power of one Church. It was indeed a new situation and a new idea, radically different from the ideas promoted by Greek and Latin philosophers during Rome's greatest glory. Professor Roszkowski does not develop this idea. I wonder what he thinks about her.

>He assures that "Western civilization is at the end of its tether. (…) It is not twilight, it is something more. It is not over yet, as we are still living among the institutions created by Western civilization. It is true that they have wasted - even the democratic state of law, which we consider fundamental. (...) I think that yes, the 13th century could be considered the apogee of Christian culture in Europe - with the Gothic, with universities, with Saints Dominic, Thomas Aquinas, Francis of Assisi, Saint Louis - great figures. "

>> No.20914893

>Apotheosis of irrationalism
>Apart from the lamentation over the allegedly declining civilization, Roszkowski and Dugin have one more thing in common - they both treat European civilization (Dugin writes "Indo-European") as a spiritual community, not very concerned with its material dimensions. God, the more powerful civilization is, and they both believe that the Middle Ages were at the peak of the development of civilization.

>I am not surprised by Dugin, because irrationalism is common bread for Russian philosophical thought. But Roszkowski is an economist by profession. History is his additional profession. In an interview with Warzecha, the professor mentions technological development that must be taken into account when describing the development of civilization, but he focuses primarily on the spiritual. He complains that the French Revolution destroyed the transcendent sources of morality and law. "Because if it is the will of the people that determines what is good and what is bad, then the question arises: who is this people?" - he asks rhetorically.

>And who determines what is good and what is bad in societies living according to the commandments of the Christian, Jewish and Buddhist religions, in Islam, which, like other religions, has many varieties and each has a slightly different idea of good and evil? Does Roszkowski really believe that it was God who dictated the Ten Commandments to Moses and that their interpretation has not changed in 3,500 years?

>This is the truth about the "golden times" of Roszkowski and Dugin
In this great Middle Ages, praised by Dugin and Roszkowski, every third child did not live to be one year old. The plague epidemic killed half of the population in some European countries, and diseases or cuts, which are now trivial today, were fatal. Wars and famine were the common reality of the vast majority of Europeans. People believed not only in God, but also in vampires and witches who brew miraculous potions or cast a spell, for which they were condemned to death at the stake. The great figures of the Middle Ages, mentioned by Professor Roszkowski, were known to a handful of monks or aristocrats, as the vast majority of people could not read,

>Modernity has brought not only a constant increase in prosperity, but also in security, it has freed people from constant fear for their lives and their loved ones. This is not a regression of European civilization, but quite the contrary - it is flourishing.

>Liberal democracy, about which Professor Roszkowski, like other PiS activists , speaks with contempt, ensures not only the influence of the majority on the government, but also respect for the views and lifestyle of the minority. This is definitely a better system than the feudalism that Roszkowski longs for, convinced that he would then be the interlocutor of Saint Thomas or Francis of Assisi.

>Maybe it would be, or maybe it would have been pushing from dawn to dusk, a bit pulled by an ox.