/lit/ - Literature

>>20903772
gimme the recs on spanish lit, lit

>>20904185
I'm reading the book in OP right now and it's very good!

un bumpo

>>20903772
Borges agreed English was superior and Garcia Marquez said he preferred the English translations of his books.

>>20904585
They retarded for that one fr fr, could NOT be more wrong. Anglos seethe.

>>20904585
They were both promoted by the CIA

>>20904656
But spics are seething, because two of the latin american greats just dropped the mother of all truths kek. They're right, by the way.

Pedro Paramo in Spanish is total shit . . . it's like a whimsical ghost story at best. But in English . . . shit, perhaps it's the lack of gendered articles, but the atmosphere Seyder conjures up is spine tingling. Truly haunting stuff. 10/10/. I could never read that story in Spanish again.

>>20904185
Carlos Fuente's La Verdad y La Fortuna

>>20904824
>Pedro Paramo in Spanish is total shit
them's fighting words

Spanish is irrelevant
The only languages worth knowing are English, French and German

>>20904185
Ernesto Sabato, The tunnel and Heroes and tombs, and his essays.
Marco Denevi, Ceremonia secreta
Horacio Quiroga, Del más allá and Cuentos de amor, locura y muerte
Lucio V. Mansilla, Incursión a los indios Ranqueles
Hector Agosti, Tántalo recobrado
Manuel Mujica Lainez, Bomarzo, El escarabajo, Misteriosa Buenos Aires and El laberinto
And César Aira, Fogwill, Osvaldo Lamborghini, Alberto Laiseca, Leopoldo Marechal, Wimpi among others.

Bolaño sucks, like all chilotes chancletudos.

>>20904185
For me it's Alejo Carpentier

reprint this book you fucking nigger publishers i cant find it anywhere reeeee

>>20906428
Just be a poorfag thirworlder like me and you'll can find easily on second hand, zapato.

>>20904185
Do you know the usual names? Borges, García Márquez, etc. Those two are good ways in actualy.

I kinda like Bolaño but he's a tough first bite probably. Savage Detectives is pretty fun though.
>>20906030
I've only read a few of his stories but Quiroga seems a bit schlocky honestly.
Sabaott's Tunnel was okay.
>Marechal
Didn't everyone hate Adan Buenosayres? I found it slightly annoying, but I only read a few chapters

>>20904185
Borges, Cortazar, Bioy Casares, Quiroga, Saer. Piglia (fuck Aira), Bolano, Zambra, Di Benedetto, Felisberto Hernandez, Ribeyro.

>>20903772
English is better for poetry because it's much more plastic, you have short and long consonants, and it has an awful lot of words, but spanish sounds better to the ear. Spanish and italian are the top languages when it comes to sound. French and german are at the bottom.

>>20906479
Thanks God, AB is awful. Roberto Arlt do it better, and even his novel go nowhere.
I'll add Hugo Wast and Josè Ingenieros.

>Adán Buenosayres is the argentinian Ullyses

>>20906445
I am
I legit can't find it
>>20904585
Marquez was probably tired of looking at his sentences for the 1000000 time
I'll give you Borges, although he said that maybe all writers struggle with the limitations of their language, and he liked german the best anyways

Everybody must to read Mirrors by Eduardo Galeano.

>>20906501
I really didn't get Juguete Rabioso lol

Who was Joan Manuel Peres the author of The jump? I can't find anything about him. This novel was ok.

A lot of shit reccs in the thread. We need a proper thread to establish the latlit cannon

>>20906616
aver your recs then.

>>20906625
I would rather not participate in such simplistic level of discussion

>>20906639
then stfu

>>20906644
Seethe

>>20906515
I'm unironically writing the south american ulysses right now

>Octavio Paz is better than Borges

>>20904585
every english translation i've read of borges is at best ugly and at worst laughable

>>20903772
I'm having some thoughts lately. Mainly that hysterical realism doesn't work in spanish because it is just not believable. The gendered pronouns and possesive articles don't give space to a balanced ambiguity common in the inventiveness of post-structural literature. In simple terms, the latin american world is more materialistic than the anglo saxon counterpart (counting logical conexions and idealist concepts as part of a metaphysical tradition south america has forgotten, and that native spaniards actively reject).
Spanish as a language is more grounded in reality to the detriment of it's fantastical literature.
Is easier for a spanish speaking reader to believe in a story of ghosts than to believe in speaking objects like a talking watch.
This comes from a deep sense of cynism initiated by Cervantes writing.
Spanish readers can't understand to an intimate level the american novels of the late century like english readers can't understand the novels of the spanish speaking world.
One example of this, and i've heard it countless of times, is the cyclical nature of the beginning/ending of One hundred years of solitude. Which i have yet to find something that resembles it in the actual novel. I can't find it because it's not there.
This goes beyond marketing. It's a personal connection that its lacking in translation.

*mogs your favorite writer*

>>20906727
>Carlos Fuentes
I sleep.

>>20906672
Octavio Paz era la puta del PRI

>>20906663
Post excerpt.

>>20906718
christ what a pseud

>Ramfis and Radhames Trujillo
Fucking caribean subhumans and their ridiculous names.

>>20906759
Either engage with me or remain a retarded nigger. You can't do both.
If you choose the former reply to me with substance if you chose the later don't bother replying.
>>20906733
>I sleep
Intellectually i see.

>>20906030
Begone, Argentinian.
But good list. Though I feel some of the authors you mention are only considered good because the Tradition considers them to be good but are actually mediocre.
How well known is Lamborghini in Argentina? I recently read his biography and it has given me a very distorted view of Argentinian literary history where everything leads or stems from him.
>>20906718
I'm not very much into Hysterical realism, but I don't really agree with much of what you're saying. Spanish can be as ambiguous as English, despite gendered pronouns and possesive articles; Latin America is in no way more materialist than the Anglo Saxon world, and things like "speaking objects like a talking watch" are in no way foreign to the Hispanic literary tradition.
You still might be unto something, and it's still a good question why modernism lead to very different things in LatAm and the US.
>>20906738
Among Mexican writers, he was probably one of the few with an actual spine and who more or less coherently opposed the PRI. He was no Revueltas, but he wasn't as much of a PRI whore as Rulfo or Fuentes or Garro or basically anyone who began writing before the 50s. But it's not like it matters very much desu, they were all still good writers.

>>20904185
I don’t like Vargas Llosa.

Try these two Colombians Jorge Franco and Laura restrepo

>>20906989
The structure of his novels is masterful. The prose not so much. My main problem with him is that his words bleed some kind of old fashioned liberal moralism and it really shows when he commits a sort of literary vengeance by emasculating Trujillo in the novel.

>>20906795
you see what you want to see. sad. but also ur reply made me laff so here's a (you) for your trouble.

>>20903772
Spanish is a shit language. I am not surprised that every Spanish speaking country is a failure, the language clearly inhibits logical thinking and has very limited vocabulary.
This is coming from someone that speaks Spanish and English fluently and has read many books in Spanish. English is clearly superior in expressing your thoughts and writing understandable prose.

>>20906718
>In simple terms, the latin american world is more materialistic than the anglo saxon counterpart
Retarded claim.

>>20907273
English sounds ugly though and has dumb grammar. Checkmate.

>>20907307
English grammar is simple, not dumb. It actually allows you to express yourself very freely since it's so simply. Spanish grammar is retarded and has 14 tenses of which half aren't even used and doesn't even make sense.
You read an English book and you instantly understand what the author is willing to say, you read a Spanish book and think to yourself wtf is that idiot talking about. This is why so few latinos read books.

>>20907329
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if spics read more books than Americans desu

>>20907300
I thought i made clear in the post that the spiritual side had been forgotten. At least i think so

>>20907357
They don't, trust me. And if they read, they mostly don't understand it.

>>20906501
based arlt promoter.i used to worship sabato, particularly abadon and informe sobre ciegos (still believe its the best he did) but once someone suggested arlt it was a game changer. Its like enjoying bukowski and then finding out he emulated fante for the most part.

>>20903772
Any good books in spanish?

>>20906707
You were definitely filtered then kek. You should watch Borges' interview with Buckley [picrel] - he explains in beautiful detail why he considers English the superior language, and how he consciously draws from it when writing. Seethe more, spic.

>>20906989
>laura restrepo
I don't read holes.

Here is the only list you'll need:
https://www.scaruffi.com/fiction/beste.html

>>20908440
Basic af

>>20908440
>Samanta Schweblin
Fuck you shill

>>20907396
fuck off
no one wants you here

>>20904585
The same has been said of every lingua franca. "[Lingua franca in turn] is better than [my native language]." The same was said of French by elites and aristocrats back in the day, even and maybe especially English ones. But it's just an empty claim that pretentious snobs rarely back up with actions. If the lingua franca in turn is so superior why don't they write all their work in it? All you'll hear from them is retarded excuses. "It's too late!" "I'm not worthy of it!" They talk the talk but they don't walk the walk. All they're doing is lazy posturing in front of foreigners sprinkled with some self-hate.

>>20904824
Pedro Páramo loses a lot in translation. It'd be like translating Faulkner into Russian. The language that Rulfo uses is born out of the Mexican soil, like a rock. The very title suggests a rock in a waste land. The colloquialism, the sense of the era, the culture, the color, the poetry, all that is mutilated and sanitized in translation. You can get an approximate in a translation but you can't really surpass it. So I completely disagree with your take. Your autistic complaint about genders is a sign you don't have a real sense of the language.

>>20906718
>filtered by grammatical gender
wtf didn't know that was possible. This has to be an actual autist because this doesn't make any fucking sense. Every Romance language (Italian, French, Portuguese, etc) is gendered. German is gendered as well. This doesn't affect at all what you say it affects. Grammatical gender =/= biological sex.
>Mainly that hysterical realism doesn't work in spanish because it is just not believable.
2666 is hysterical realism and it works and sell everywhere. The reason why American pomo shit doesn't sell in other countries is because it's mere navel-gazing about muh America. It is not the universal from the local (like classic literature) but more like "let's go to the entrails from the local, let's dive even deeper", so it doesn't work universally.
>Spanish as a language is more grounded in reality to the detriment of it's fantastical literature.
This is not true at all. Spanish lends itself perfectly to the poetic and the fantastic. Even the very word for "good-bye" is "adiós" (go with God) and the word for "thanks" is "gracias" (as in "may you receive God's graces"). It's fairly easy to write something fantastic or grotesque in Spanish. The reason why Spain hasn't written that much in the genre is a cultural reason, not a linguistic one: Spaniards prefer realism. Hispanic America by comparison has written plenty of fantastic, surreal, or magical realist literary pieces, and lots of people are superstitious (believe in ghosts, demons, witches, etc) which has created myths and folklore.

Your reply is such a strange conflation of the most autistic things I've ever heard. Just completely misguided.

>>20906718
>>20907273
>Spanish is too logical!
>Spanish is not logical!
holy kek I love it when two retarded arm-chair linguists spread their stupid nonsense like they know shit. If you can't write a masterpiece in your native language, you're a fucking douchebag. The language is not the problem, it's your use of it. Faggots.

>>20907360
I don't think so, especially not because of language. Anglo culture has always been materialistic-empricist, on the other hand, due to their Protestantism and relative isolation from continental Europe.

>>20908694
What are you talking about?

>>20904185
piggybacking here, any good novels for an intermediate at best Spanish learner? Ideally around novella length and not too dense or complicated.

>Yankees and Sudacas arguing about the English and Spanish languages
Sad!

>>20909164
El túnel by Sábato.

>>20907070
Vargas Llosa is a political hack. He actually ran for president of Peru.

He wrote a book on writing modeled after letters to a young poet that was a marvelous cringe fest I had to laugh out loud

>>20908400
Well you should at least read Virginia Woolf anon

>>20909348
>anglo holes
Nope. At least Yorcenaur I could acept.

>>20909369
>I don't read books because le sex of the person!
>I don't read books because of le nationality!
holy anti-intellectual.

>>20909376
Yes.

>>20909403
You shouldn't read books, then.

>>20909369
>yourcenar.
Holy pleb
Reading females of any nationality is a sign of low IQ

>>20909422
But there are women writers with a higher IQ than you. I've seen poetry threads and /lit/ definitely can't write a better poem than Emily Dickinson.

>>20909410
Make me.

>>20909239
Shut up, retard. Latin American Spanish is just as valid.

>>20909432
Didn't ask. Don't care
>>20909489
It really isn't

>>20909348
Cringe. There are a few women worth reading like George Eliot or Mariane Moore, but Woolf is not one of them. You must be a limp wristed faggot or a woman. At least you didn't recommend something even worse like Sylvia Plath or Alejandra Pizarnik.

>>20909376
this only an anti-intellectual would read books by women or monkey people

>>20909529
How is it not? In my country it's basically identical to Andalusian or Canary Islands Spanish...

>>20909550
It's the basic onthology of language

>>20907396
>Trust me
>Trust you
>You
>(You)
Who are (you)?

>>20909556
What?

>>20909556
Shut up, spanish cuck. You were tainted by moors. I'm whiter than you.

>>20909566
>>20909569
>t. Rape babies

>>20909573
I'm whiter than you. My family comes from north italy and I'm blond. Keep seething.

>>20909577
We discuss literature here
Go back to /int/

>>20909538
You’re obviously a moron. Lol. Go back to your houellebeq incel.

>>20904585
>>20906707

He translated most of his stories into English with the help of Norman Thomas di Giovanni, but the translations were allowed to go out of print by the gold digger that Borges gave his publishing rights to after he died. You can find the collected works of Borges/di Giovanni for download on the internet though.

>>20903772
Why south americans love gimmicks so much? I swear every time I read a a south american book it has a gimmick. It's not necessarily a bad thing and many of them are great, but why can't you just write straightforward stories?

>>20909164
Responso, by Saer.
El perseguidor, by Cortázar.
Ciencias morales, by Kohan.
La pesquisar, by Saer.
Plata quemada, by Piglia.
Kentukis, by Schweblin.

Those come to mind rn

>>20909646
Best seller crap.

>>20909632
Name the gimmicks you have found so far

>>20909656
They're easy, light reads. The only one there really "best seller" is Kentukis, the others I think each one has its merits.
You can't call Saer "best seller crap" lol, you're obviously dumb or too tangled up on this hole.

>>20909660
I think the guy just doesn't know about magical realism and it's calling its devices "gimmicks".

>>20909596
Said the /pol/tard.

>>20909529
Retard.
>>20909632
>but why can't you just write straightforward stories?
Because those are boring and done to death. Read Spain literature if like realist shit, essentially glorified history or journalism.

>>20909819
Low bait
>>20909825
Post IQ

Very virulent thread. God, what a nest of vipers.

>>20909569
Shut up. We're all mixed, and that's good thing. Our ancestors were conquistadors, noble indigenous warrior tribes, and hard-working African slaves who fought for their liberty. Race-mixing is a core part of our identity and history, and nothing to ashamed to be ashamed of.

>>20909908
>hard-working African slaves
I'm not Brazilian, thank God. I have zero eggplant in me.

>>20909912
You will never be white. And that's fine. Your mind is poisoned by Anglo-Germanic race nonsense.

>>20909912
https://lapaseata.net/2020/05/30/hispanidad-y-mestizaje/

>>20909930
>>20909920
>>20909912
Don’t turn this thread into yet another racial discussion, you retards. If any of you want to keep talking about this you’ll have to precede your comment with your favourite Hispanic poet so you can be judged accordingly.

>>20909940
There is no poetry in spanish

>>20909920
I have no interest in that. But I'm also not a negro.

>>20909943
There is plenty of poetry.

>>20909943
You can now be dismissed

>>20909944
Sure you don't. There's nothing wrong with being being black, especially as a Hispanic when our culture from the beginning celebrated its racial diversity and elasticity. Off yourself.

>>20909962
Negroes have never been celebrated. Only by Americans recently, perhaps.

Recommend some good xx century poets, I get stuck in the fag Lorca.

>>20904185
obscene bird of night is one of the best but one of the most disturbing books ive ever read. i had very strange, strong (there's not a better word for it) nightmares for like a month after finishing it. There's definitely a lot of humor to be found in it though so I would recommend overall.

>>20909974
HAHAHAHAHA

>>20909982
Lorca’s not bad, anon. I’m currently reading Ida Vitale and she’s great. López Velarde was amazing and I feel a particular affinity to him and Villaurrutia.

>>20909982
Villaurrutia, Borges, Paz, Neruda's early period. Pessoa wrote in Portuguese but he's good as well.

>>20910006
I can't stand Neruda, but I'll check his early works. I still can see Trujillo raping Ursula while reciting some pathetic Neruda's verses.

>>20910018
He has some good shit from time to time (Residencia en la Tierra). Then he lost his fucking marbles. There's also Huidobro's work.

>>20910029
I'll check that too, thanks.

>>20909982
Vallejo is all you need. Nothing comes close to it. Read it in spanish if you can, no translation works for it.

>>20909896
Internet brain rot

>>20909896
Sorry darling if your feelings got hurt.

>>20906639
How about you participate in the simplistic act of gargling my balls.

>>20907329
You’re fucking retarded

>>20910275
>posts in english

>>20907329
>You read an English book and you instantly understand what the author is willing to say, you read a Spanish book and think to yourself wtf is that idiot talking about.
This tells me your reading proficiency in Spanish is quite low. Always happens to foreign speakers of any language.

>>20907273
>>20907329
I think you're just saying you're not as proficient in Spanish as you think, honestly

Martin get in the truck or Bucitch would must to do it again!

>>20907273
What does it mean for a language to be more "logical" than other?

>>20910426
>>20910481
Es problema suyo si son tan imbéciles que no son capaces de comprender que algunos idiomas permiten expresarse de una manera más simple y entendible.
Creer que todos los idiomas son iguales es prueba que sufren de retraso mental grave.
Lean un periódico de cualquier país latinoamericano (o España) y compárenlo con cualquier artículo en inglés, y rápidamente entenderán la diferencia de los dos idiomas.
But yeah I guess you know more about the topic since you took Spanish in high school and intro to latin american literature at your shitty college.

>>20910925
English is closer to God. That is just a fact.

>>20910925
>>20910934
>Spanish is le bad!
Works on my machine.

>>20910958
No one said that.

>>20910934
Wrong. The Holy Roman Emperor cleared that out.

>>20910961
You're a faggot who finds Spanish news articles confusing... Go back to kindergarten, kid.

>>20910972
Can you really compare medieval spanish to current spanish?

>>20908677
>The language that Rulfo uses is born out of the Mexican soil, like a rock.
Haven't cringed at a simile this hard in a very long time.

>>20910984
Charles V did not speak "medieval Spanish", he spoke Early Modern Spanish, which is very similar to modern Spanish all things considered. I swear you faggots think you know it all but don't even know the basics. All your opinions are retarded.

>>20910982
Never said Spanish news articles are confusing, just that the language doesn't allow you to express yourself the same way that English does.
Imagine believing that every language is the exact same. Imagine being this retarded. Imagine being (you).
Everybody that I know that speaks both English and Spanish prefers to read in English.

>>20910995
Cringe is not a real word

>>20911002
Bro, are really going the take the high ground over semantics to safeguard a funny quote? That's pathetic.

>>20911003
>you read a Spanish book and think to yourself wtf is that idiot talking about.
You can't even read Spanish texts. This is very obvious. Imagine being filtered by fucking news articles lmao holy fucking shit.

>>20911008
I'm sorry for not spreading proud stupidity like the illiterates ITT.

Spanish is the language of child prostitutes,

>>20911015
Sure thing Steven, you know so much about Spanish, I mean you passed Spanish 101 after all!
I can read Spanish texts, you nigger mutt. I have read complex Spanish books and have read complex English books. The English ones are clearly superior, not because I can't understand a language I speak perfectly, but because English prose is better.
Now go back to the closet and watch Tyrone fuck your mother's asshole.

What happened to this thread? This is why we can't have nice things. /int/posters do nothing but harm the reputation of hispanic luterature posters

>>20911043
You confessed you didn't even understand what the authors were saying. Name just 5 complex books in Spanish, the ones that filtered you like a schoolboy.

I imagine you have an aesthetic preference for English's baby prose tendency over Spanish's baroque tendency. But that's simply a preference, not a real reason why you can't understand books. Something must be truly rotten in your brain, even more rotten than your mother's cunt.

>>20911097
yes! Get that pinche gringo maricón! Get su culo, wey!

>>20911097
>English's baby prose tendency over Spanish's baroque tendency
pls don't respond to my post anymore, you are brown or even worse black.

>>20911145
I hate chicAnos so much it's unreal

Books on "la creatura de las americas" plz. I mean chicanos, pochos, cholos and mierdarriqueños and their gta culture.

>>20911162
why? Porque they tienen a richer culture and eye para aesthetics than you? I can hear your deformed Angloid claws typing bitterly from here, as well as smell your reddened, speckled pale skin cooking in the light of the loving sun, my guy.

>>20911149
>couldn't even name 5 of the books that filtered him
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA pseud detected, attacked, and destroyed.
>inb4 more seething cope

>>20911175
LOL this post really cracked me up. What do you consider Guatemalans? I need to know so I can tell my Guatemalan immigrant friend what he is

>>20911219
Guatemalans are none of that. I don't even know what they're called. NTA.

>>20911195
No book has ever filtered me, since I am not dark skinned unlike you.

>>20911219
I don't know. I'm not even murrican. Maybe centracas or call him indio de mierda.

>>20911240
>you read a Spanish book and think to yourself wtf is that idiot talking about.
>you read a Spanish book and think to yourself wtf is that idiot talking about.
>you read a Spanish book and think to yourself wtf is that idiot talking about.
cope more

>>20911244
Oh see unfortunately I am, and I'm still learning Spanish so I'm also not really on even footing with him or any other specie of beaner, spic, wetback, or latinequis that falls over the fence from my backyard. I would like to get better at verbally abusing him in his native tongue so we can bond more

>>20911244
also wherever you're from, are you familiar with the pejorative terms I used in that post (beaner, spic, wetback)? I don't know how widely those terms are known outside of the US

>>20911304
I'm argentinian. Yes, I know all these terms, everybody on 4chan I guess. IRL not so many people, beaner maybe for that Molotov's song Frijolero. Man, mexican are aliens to me. I only meet one in my life. I've grown watching Speedy Gonzales on CN, El chavo del 8, Bee man from The simpsons and opera soaps.
Your neighbour maybe it's just a farmer or peasant from a shanty town. Call him indio, prieto, campesino or jodido.

>>20911347
>promoting racism and IRL violence

>>20911350
It's not racism if I'm dará skinned too. Kneel to me wyboy.

why the fuck does every major latin american author worship William Faulkner???? americans dont even give a fuck about him

>>20911371
Why shouldn't they? Faulkner is a master. America's Shakespeare.

>>20911371
ok, and Americans are retarded? also not even true, Pynchon and Delillo among others are influenced by Faulkner??

>>20911371
Why you don't?

>>20911347
lol okay maybe I'll try those. Gracias para answering mis preguntos, primo argentino. Yo mismo, I grew up around a lot of Mexicans and Guats and Salvadorans and shit, even as a white American. Oh and also, I'm curious, have you heard about this term that gets thrown around a lot up here in los Estados: "latinx", have you heard that one?

>>20911371
I do, I'm an American. From the South too, believe it or not. I know I'm the odd-one-out for it, but we still exist

>>20911371
I guess it's one of those cases where an author is more praised elsewhere than in his homeland. Like Poe in Europe.

>>20911382
because somos fucking stupid, hermanito. La cultura es mierda aqui.

>>20911386
kek do you want to lose your friend?

>>20911395
eres un fellow chicano, mi homie? let's go to agarrar unas gringas and ensartarlas by the culo.

>>20911386
>latinx
Only on memes on zuckerbook, even on normie pages.
>>20911392
Everybody around the globe know who was Poe.

>>20911379
>also not even true, Pynchon and Delillo among others are influenced by Faulkner??
you can't be this retarded. there is absolutely zero evidence that Pynchon was influenced by Faulkner and the only reason Delillo lists Joyce and Faulkner as influences is because he's always been part of that strain of writers that is extremely concerned with the diction and cadence of his sentences for its own sake. but again that's one author. I can give you literally 20 major latin american writers right now that worship Faulkner. and you give me "Don Delillo" lol

>>20911400
>Everybody around the globe know who was Poe.
He's more appreciated elsewhere than in Murica.

>>20911399
>ensartarlas
Hola joven argentino de nombre tipicamente argentino.

>>20911392
>I guess it's one of those cases where an author is more praised elsewhere than in his homeland.
it's definitely one of those cases, but i'm wondering why

>>20911407
my nariz is kinda big but no onions argentino. ensartarla es just slang, homie.

>>20911403
>there is absolutely zero evidence that Pynchon was influenced by Faulkner

http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/bio/influences.html

>[H]e divides his writing life into five principal phases
> [...] then two years in the Navy and a swing back to a classicism that (he says) brought imitations of Henry James, Nelson Algren, and William Faulkner

OK, so your first point got BTFO, and btw there's no reason not to believe this is real, let's go with the other

>again that's one author

Oh okay, just one of the titans of 20th century literature, no big deal right. Moron

>>20911399
nah, wey. I'm half Anglo, half Slavic rape-baby. Just grew up in an area where mucha gente no spicky english y I also recognize we are having a demographic collapse here in America, entonces I might as well join el mundo "latino". Es un cultura y lengua superior anyway.

>>20911422
ah, I get it now. very basado, homie. tú sabes what matters estos días.

>>20911422
>>20911429
This new gta 6 sounds good.

>>20911436
ah, just wait sudaca hombre mierda it's coming to a town near you soon enough, don't worry!

>>20911436
we need un gta but with puro latino power instead of mayates like en san andreas

>>20911422
Puerto rico is not the whole latin world

Enough. Just nuke this thread. All this chicano and centraca peasants ruined it.

>>20911429
gracias, primo. Una raza.

>>20911445
JAJ

>>20911450
Mexico is probably slightly more important to US society than Puerto Rico

>>20911455
mejor show me las jugs de tu sister, maricón de shit.

>>20911462
>>20911450
let's all be hermanos. drama is for mujeres.

>>20911462
Yeah, yo mismo I definitely grew up around more Mexicans and what-not than Puertos, that's more of a New York thing I think.

>>20911445
>mayates
kek

VOY A DICER LA PALABRA "N", VOY A DICERLA

>>20911499
lol

>>20903772
spanish is a very phonetical consistent lenguage, instead of english where the consonants are the center, in spanish the vowals are the center of everything, thus meaning we can speak with a more consistent and musical rythm that our english partners

why spanish literature is so good? becouse a good written spanish text is music, not just owrds, the way our best authors can use our words and make it sound like a melody is out of this world, i remember the first time i read the quixote or borges, it was out of this planet

>>20911554
damn anon, I want to get to that level of Spanish reading comprehension, I'm over here a SSL. Where you from?

>>20905950
Ancient Greek called, yeah that’s right bucko you got OWNED

>>20911567
bottomed.

>>20905950
eres gay

>>20911554
Working with rhythm in English is far easier than working with rhythm in Spanish. There's a reason why English poetry puts more importance in rhythm than rhyming and why Spanish does the opposite, even if Spanish poetry also plays with rhythm in complicated and wonderful ways.

The greatest sex scene in a book was written in Spanish. No, I will not tell you which book. No, you don't deserve it. Yes, you will forever live with this doubt.

>>20911613
me dices

>>20911613
The greatest sex scene was made with me and your mom

hola onions un desgraciado que no sabe mucho espaniol even though mis padres solo hablan espaniol y quiero aprender mas. Recomiendame unos buenos libros para leer y por favor que no seyan mamadas. (I wish to read quote unquote real literature).

>>20911905
llamado del cocodrilo

>>20911371
He's the only American novelist with soul (after Melville). Also because he incorporated the modernist techniques into a rural/semi rural setting, and that was just an eureka for Latin writers that had been stagnating with 18th/19th century realist fiction.

>>20911416
Why the phenomenon happens? Because it's a law of life that one is not a prophet in it's own homeland.
Why with Faulkner? I guess for America it's Literature had been heading for the urban fiction (and it basically still did after him). But for Latin American countries the rural spaces, plantations were still a valid thing, in some places you still had those pseudo-feudal, landholded places were social conflict were still rebounding in their societies.

>>20911954
have you read more than two american novelists?

>>20911371
The simple answer is that Faulkner showing them the bar for what literature could be. The other half of the coin is they most of them also worshipped Hemingway for lowering the bar so it was accesible to them and not a stylistic prison.
South american literature oscillates between these two figures.
It's much easier to see the influence of Faulkner in their writing but most of them admitted that Hemingway played a role just as significant and their job was to balance these two perspectives in their writing.