/lit/ - Literature

>>20898490
that's a very low-quality way to start the thread. if anything aristotle's scientific methods were more practical than his contemporaries since he actually believed in observation instead of pure speculation. Although I might be wrong based on what you consider "autism"

>>20898514
It's just the way he writes. It's not that he filters me, I mean I understand most if not everything, but it's so incredibly dry and monotone. It's often absolute toil trudging through his points.

>>20898562
He writes like that because he want to systematize knowledge. You could say the same about Kant. That only make them boring ---or "dry", as you say--- when you are not interested in what they want to express.
If you want a clear reason and contrast on why Aristotle is formulated in that way, you could read some book on the pre-socratics. (You can also grasp the same idea by putting attention on how Aristotle describe what pre-socratics said ---and also compared to how Plato paraphrased them).

>>20898490
No. He believed strongly in friendship and was married and had children. He said “to live alone one must be either a beast or a God.” Meanwhile Plato never married and was obsessed with esoteric doctrine and his dead teacher Socrates. If anyone was autistic it was Plato.

>>20898490
why should I bother with this guy when I can read and reread Plato instead?

>>20898751
/thread

>>20898751
Read Categories and Prior Analytics. That is pretty much all that matters for understanding subsequent philosophers. You could read metaphysics but it will be much more productive just to google the terms prime mover, unmoved mover, self moved mover, final cause, entelechy, and potential.

>>20898809
Oh and substance, essence, and being. They are important but Reading metaphysics won’t help you understand them.

I'm sorry Aristotle you had a good run.

>>20898562
worth remembering that not a single word of his extant writings was meant to be published
supposedly he wrote some very beautiful dialogues, but all have been lost in time

>>20898809
Posterior Analytics is arguably the most important of his works.

>>20898490
As do all great minds.

>>20899029
WHOA MOMMA, A HUMINA A HUMINA AH WOOOOGA AH WOOOOGA
t. reading Posterior Analytics for most of the semester

>tfw reading through my hippocrates g. apostle literal translation with commentary edition with glossary alongside a loeb parallel greek/english and writing all the interesting greek parts in the margins

it's amazing how much translators mess with, i can't believe i lived without knowing the τὸ τί ἐστι and the διὰ τί, can you imagine reading these two translated as reason and essence and not seeing the connection of the τί, when aristotle uses τί alone two pages later for quiddity or substantial individuality.

>>20899219
sadly I am too poorfag for the loebs
tattered second-hand copies of old penguins aren't making life any easier

>>20898490
No

>>20898514
>that's a very low-quality way to start the thread.
That's implying he even wanted to have a productive thread.

>>20898490
"COME HERE BOY, I'VE GOT 5 DRACHMAS AND IM GOING TO BUY YOU AND FUCK YOUR MOUTH!"
Market Visitor to Aristotle, prior to his flight

>>20899219
I wish every translation were like this. They could at least put this stuff in square brackets.

>>20898872
Looks like we won't be needing you anymore.

>>20898631
Thinking of Aristotle as a systematizer like Kant proves you still haven't understood him clearly enough. Aristotle only gets labelled as a systematizer because his intellect is so far ahead of most of his readers, such that what is actually just reasoned speculation appears as a "system" because his basic thought process is that sophisticated.

>>20899708
Have you checked abebooks or the library

>>20898490
>Philosopher
Check!
>White
Check!
>Theories people 1000's of years later still dont know what the fuck he was talking about.
Check!

Yup, it's autism.

>>20898490
Why would he have autism?