/lit/ - Literature

>>20881474
sex

oh good, a roastie infighting book

>>20881474
Okay?

>>20881474
Imagine thinking that women "akhually don't like anal, kinky shit or doing porn"

Lul, what a dumb cunt

>>20881474
I hate women. They fight tooth and nail for their right to behave like cheap whores, then turn 40 and start screeching how it’s man’s fault they’re used up and mentally ill now.
Don’t even talk to these creatures.

"Women can't have paraphilias" is definitely the among the biggest feminist copes. It's simply not true, fanfiction writers are almost exclusively women and they write depraved things for sexual purposes all the time.

>>20881474
google "cointepro"

>Noooo! I don't want to do rough sex!
Then find a man who isn't rough.
>Noooo! I want a high T aggressive man, who doesn't act like one, but only when I'm not in the mood!

The “anti-sex” position will lose, like it did in the 90s. Expect people talking about their kinks and fetishes on the street and on local broadcast news as sex work proliferates. Public nakedness will be accepted, because who is going to argue about seeing tits and ass just out? Kindergartners will learn about anal. Only millenials trying to cling to relevancy will be prudes.

>>20881500
https://unherd.com/2022/07/should-all-women-try-prostitution/
They did a debate on it

>>20882881
>The “anti-sex” position will lose, like it did in the 90s
This is true, they don't have the backing needed to win.
Omidyar Foundation and Open Society sponsor pro-sex work events and activists.

>>20882881
It's much stranger than that. People have less sex than ever before, our culture just obsesses over it more. Our intellectual assent to the sexual revolution is accompanied by a simultaneous drive to materially reduce the damage that it's done. Aside from maybe eliminating sodomy laws, which were rarely enforced anyways, the substantive changes made to the legal regime in the decades following the sexual revolution do not reflect a society where anything goes.

For example, we may now have drag queen story hour, but we've also broadened Title IX to mean that Kafkaesque bureaucratic proceedings may be initiated against male students for any reason. The woke TikTokers giving encomia to prostitution and paraphilic sex acts are also the most zealous vanguard for the new taboos. Whereas in the past it might have been common for a lawyer to marry his secretary, consensual relationships between the two are becoming increasingly stigmatized due to an implicit power imbalance.

It doesn't seem like we're far off from broadcasting hardcore pornography during the Superbowl Halftime Show and accepting it because everybody has stopped having sex.

>>20882488
Anal is disgusting and many women don't like it, yes.

>>20884165
It's true, but they still give it up to chads when they ask for it. Do you even have a brain? Women?

>>20882881
And this will eventually lead to extreme authoritarian prudishness. The remnants of authoritarian strict virtue we feel today are from the late Roman empire. Constantine abandoned Rome largely because it had nothing but corruption and debauchery. To avoid the same fate in Constantinople morality laws about marriage etc were put in place that dominated civilized European culture for 1500 years.

>>20883150
The sexual revolution just made sex - even just talking about sex or anything sexuality - into social capital. Look at the staggering difference between "prostitute" and "sex worker." But books like OP, the "reformed" slut movement, or the tradcath puriteen trend isn't going to fix the damage. Plus their arguments are just un-sexy. We know people aren't going achieve their full potential if they go full anti-sex. They'll kill each other.

>>20884165
Women are subservient animals that do not know insolence or disobedience, if you are big enough or agressive enough they will just go along with it. This is of course if its not a publuc setting where they can cause a scene and try to get attention and pity. In private even the most foolhardy and stalwart woman will give up her asshole and only regret it later. They are livestock. You could tell a woman you are going to rape and best her to her face and she wouldnt find a problem with it if you looked like you could breed her better than the last guy she had.

>>20883150
The concept of "power imbalance" is such a stupid notion to me and it's only used to eschew responsibility. It even has the implication that the person who's the "victim" of the power imbalance has zero agency -- and this is especially the case when someone brings up age difference, i.e. at X-age disparity, there is a lack of agency.

Of course, people CAN be manipulated, but I've never seen the "power imbalance" used in conjunction with something like being threatened to lose your job if you don't fuck someone, which would be a legitimate power imbalance.

>>20884265
ah yes the incel sex expert lol

>>20883150
It's strange how pornography has so quickly saturated our society and no one seems interested in talking about the ramifications of this phenomenon except puritan conservatives, which I think even makes discussion harder, because once you've said anything about the topic you've become one of the snooty, puritan, banal, no fun-having Evangelicals, which have been parodied and satirized to death in our current culture.

Which I think totally gets to what you're saying... how does a culture enforce moral values like "Don't rape" but also suggest to it's population to "have fun" and "explore your sexuality" etc. What happens is you get these weird paradoxes where it's (the society's) population stops having physical sex and instead turns to a virtual sex, OnlyFans, pornography, nudes etc. which minimize the emotional damage of physical sex. This is how you get the Superbowl Halftime commercial with buttfucking and the only people making a fuss about it get ironized to death.

>>20884254
I see OP's book, the reformed slut "movement", and the tradcath puriteen "movement" as two end of the same horseshoe. Both are reactions to the increasing pornographication of society.

>Plus their arguments are just un-sexy

That's the issue I'm trying to understand. How the hell do you revolt against institutionalized rebellion without looking like a Mike Pence?

>We know people aren't going achieve their full potential if they go full anti-sex

I'd agree, but at least OP's book and tradcath larpers are making an attempt at pushback. I'm genuinely asking when I ask you this, what the hell does your solution look like, cause I'm lost as hell over here.

You're simply supposed to copulate with your spouse whenever it is requested and avoid all adultery since it makes your future spouse a cuckold and distorts your status as an image of the Creator. Every single religion in history understood this, it's not just a product of recent morality. You can't just insist casual fornication is okay and not expect things to lead to this point.

People don't really account for how much more feminine society was before the Hippies. The Hippies are an almost tribal level masculinity that has completely changed culture ever since their arrival.

>>20884368
Right, that must be why grown men have now adopted the speech and mannerisms of teenage American girls. I had to stop listening to a podcast a few days ago on account of how often a grown Englishman was using the word "like."

>>20883150
>People have less sex than ever before

Why, tho? Every factor is present for people to go absolutely nuts with sex, yet as you said, people are having less of it than ever before. It doesn't add up.

>>20884414
Millennials grew up being told talking to girls is wrong and they should be less masculine.

>>20884414
People are uglier.

>>20884414
If 30-40% of the population are offering their bodies freely to every stranger, then this makes it quite difficult for healthy people to find a genuine relationship with a person whose capacity for love and bonding hasn't been exhausted through incessant intercourse.

>>20881474
This girl got it.

>>20884414
I think it's multi-faceted issue:

When images, videos, and virtual reality have hit the point where you can please your deepest desires, why even bother going out and dealing with the messy, emotional, and frankly un-sexy aspects of meeting someone, being vulnerable, and going to bed with them, when you can just get to the point in the safety in comfort of your own home?

Exposure to pornography from a young age does something to you that we haven't quite figured out yet scientifically, but it's probably bad, but from a spiritual and emotional perspective, is horrible. For some, like Billie Eilish, it's traumatic.

I'm sure religious guilt plays some part of it, but how can it when the zoomers are the least traditionally religious generation in forever?

I think dating apps abstract that process of meeting someone naturally, reducing people to mere image, caption, and soundbite. Which makes the whole matter worse.

>>20884414
Because they cannot find love. That vulgar, genitalia-reduced, drug-fueled, degrading hook-up culture without love nor commitment nor marriage nor children only fit a tiny part of men and an even tinier part of women that are low enough to revel in it. For better people sex is a part of love, and since they cannot find love, they don't have sex.

>>20884414
It's very simply distractions. Electricity blackouts cause births. The tree of man bears fruit when you remove the fuel of the demon that's poisoning it, even temporarily. It's not inherently about electricity, that's just one form of power we can abuse to summon these parasitical forces.

>>20884476
I see where you're coming from, but I think porn alone does not explain it. The atomization of western societies and the breakdown of western male-female relations (to put it in the least incel-y way) surely play into it as well.

If the IRL sex is worth going after, men won't choose porn over real sex. Porn is just the opium to numb the pain.

And this is only my personal anecdote but I think there already needs to be some sort of susceptibility to being influenced to be present for porn to be able to fuck you up real good. When I still watched 3DPD porn my kinks never radicalized, I never felt as if I needed more and more extreme shit to get off, and when I switched to 2D pics as my primary masturbation fuel I even lost some of my weirder kinks. Nowadays my tastes are super vanilla and "heterosexual male default".

>>20884528

>The atomization of western societies and the breakdown of western male-female relations (to put it in the least incel-y way) surely play into it as well.

I have felt this too. Men and women just seem unable to even communicate with each other. It's like we're operating on different axioms at this point.

>If the IRL sex is worth going after, men won't choose porn over real sex. Porn is just the opium to numb the pain.

Man, I hope this is true. For me at least, the images are so good it's hard to look away. I'm glad you and hopefully others have gotten out of it. I hate to be doomer about this, but the whole glittery electromagnetic system is still chained to our pockets. I don't see a way out except a serious internal and external debate with ourselves and others about what standards were gonna hold on to.

>>20882497
/thread

>>20883150
Smart left people don't have kids and die off. This means low iq left people who have lots of sex and are too stupid for contraception reproduce more. Fanatic religious people also have more kids and reproduce. These are the people who don't have a lot of sex but they still have a lot of children so they reproduce. Society overall is not having less sex, its just that sexual behavior is stratifying and the middle is hollowing out.

> it is taboo for a young woman to express discomfort about the nature of the sexual bargain she’s expected by society to
make.
No it fucking isn't
There are no taboos for women, women can say anything they want and be praised for it endlessly. I have never seen a woman be criticized for anything they've ever said. Taboos only exist for men, men are the only ones who are ever criticized and ostracized for their opinions. We live in fully matriarchal society where women are exempt from any criticism and receive endless love and adoration for every possible action.

If a woman came out and said she is a virgin and does not want to ever hook up, she'd be beloved by billions of men instantly. But they don't do it. Truth is that women are the ones who love copious and commitment-free sex. Majority of men don't ever even get to experience it.

If women actually wanted to pleasure men in heterosexual dating, they'd stay pure virgins just like guys do. Women enjoy getting fucked in the ass more than men like doing it, same with filming pornography and everything else.

>>20884165
You have only dated boring women ngl

>>20884343
I think the proliferation of pornography online completely changed the discussion. It’s interesting to me that NoFap independently rediscovered a lot of the 19th - 20th century thinking surrounding human sexuality, ideas like sublimating your sexual desires into something else or controlling them through exercise. The latter practice was so widespread in the US by the mid-20th century that CS Lewis described it as “madness” in The Screwtape Letters.

You are right that it is strange that all of this was completely memoryholed by normies and the medical establishment somewhere along the line. The latter seems content insisting that formerly all the world was mad, I guess.

But in the meantime, it seems like the damage inflicted on people by cooming, camwhoring, watching pornography, “sexual exploration”, etc. has become self-evident to most people. I think within the next ten years, once the novelty has worn off, these will all come to be seen as low status behaviors and go the way of smoking.

>>20882881
Then bonobo style human will be Darwin'd by chimp style humans, and circle will start again.

>>20884627
>I have never seen a woman be criticized for anything they've ever said. Taboos only exist for men, men are the only ones who are ever criticized and ostracized for their opinions
>thinking woman's opinions matter to civil society
So when do you start transitioning?

>>20882864
Women don't make sense

>>20881474
> This bargain says: sacrifice your own wellbeing for the pleasures of men in order to compete in the heterosexual dating marketplace at all.
How? Does she give any reasoning for it after or is it just a claim a reader should just assume to be true?

>>20884290
Point to me where he is wrong

>>20884379
Estrogen in the water supply

>>20885001
Because you trying to apply complex models of behavior based on causality and reasoning onto women who are much more inclined to follow their intuition rather than rational thinking.
Today she might feel like she doesn't like when men treat her rough, tomorrow she might wish for that same treatment she scorned before. Estrogen makes you impulsive.

>>20884476
>I think dating apps abstract that process of meeting someone naturally, reducing people to mere image, caption, and soundbite. Which makes the whole matter worse.
Correct observation. Using dating app shit is outright dehumanizing. Person is reduced to storefront by using it. Hence confused people obsessed about appearance way more than they should be, and losing their shit because of that - appearance is much more important for storefront, than for human being.

>>20883150
The major changes in the sexual behavior of millennials and younger are all closely tied with hardcore pornography. The journey into taboos and darker elements of sexual exploration are all motivated by two pillars: either they are tied to past trauma /abuse or they are the result of extended overstimulation to normal sex, pushing ever further into the forbidden fruit of things we generally consider morally wrong.

One is not just born wanting to choke a girl into submission, fuck his own mother, anally harm his partner, etc. These taboos and violent sex acts grow from the continuous pushing past a given "red line", typically through constant pornographic viewing for decades, combined with some deeper resentment of the opposite sex.

The poor man who grows up in the third world, without internet, without the exposure to hardcore pornography, is he less happy than the porn infused American millennial? This third-world man could marry a woman and live his whole life in sexual bliss with basic, normal, loving sex. It is the exposure to more and more depravity that drives this sort of dangerous thrill that is corrupting American sex.

I have experienced this all first hand. I have been watching hardcore porn since I was 12. I love rough sex. My first sexual relationships had lots of choking, slapping, face fucking. My current girlfriend is the opposite. She has never watched porn, she wants sweet, loving sex. It took me a while to adapt, and I would still secretly engage in my dark fantasies on the phone away from here. But over time I just cut porn out of my life and we have a healthy, happy sexual relationship that I don't feel shame or guilt about, it feels pure and beautiful. I hope that other millennials can find that sort of sexual relationship and avoid the depravity of what the porn industry has instilled in our world.

>>20881474
You don't get it anon being turned into a sexual object is actually empowering because it lets women make a lot of money from men who spend a large chunk of their money and time worshipping them
I'm pretty sure this can't have any negative repercussions

>>20885140
Nice story anon thanks

>>20881474
Examine movements from the past which were in opposition, like the temperance movement from the late 19th/early 20th century pushed by people like Mr Graham and his crackers. Ultimately the sexual revolution was a return to normal for the bulk of people, big families were not the norm because of trad values.

>>20884414
>Every factor is present for people to go absolutely nuts with sex
No, it isn't. People are sexually oppressed nowadays; every company and institution tries to sell you sexual fantasies and demands you try to "measure up" to others. But as others stop being normal people and start being professional actors who get vasodilators injected into their cock before a shoot (look it up), it becomes almost impossible to compete with them. Thus, most people simply drop out and don't compete, becoming virtual celibates, keeping their needs in check by constant masturbation.

>>20882914
sex negative and antiporn roasties are wrong because they presuppose it’s porn addicted men driving women’s tastes when it’s the opposite. women are more sexual than men.

Who gives a shit. Womens obssession with status and their virulent classism deprives many men of sex by default. Who cares if the transaction they largely created is lopsided against them.

>>20885696
I've noticed more misandrist feminists often criticize the same things as incels do but they blame men while incels blame women, or they say one system is in favor of men (marriage, sex, porn) while incels think they're in favor of women

how come i never see this posted here? seems like chuds would be into it

>>20884267
kys pedo

>>20884222
This is accurate. And there's a very good reason why everyone in the West wants more immigrants, more ayrabs, niggars, etc. It's because society is preparing for that wave of authoritarianism. Sharia, basically. It'll come in a few decades.

>>20882932
>>20882881
But until it comes, we'll keep seeing more absurd shit. Like take for example thongs and underwear. Women are so stupid (in general, I'm generalizing) that if you see their underwear it's a big no no but then when they go to the beach they get the skimpiest thong bikini possible (those 80s bikinis that look like pussy hammocks or slings), showing the rash they got when they tried to shave their pubes, showing off their naked butt, 10% of their nipples, 25% of their labia majora and the outline of their vaginal opening and clit, etc. And then they upload photos because they want attention, sexual "power", etc. It's retarded as fuck.
And the yoga pants they wear.
This is part of the reason why I focused on killing my sex drive. I know most 20-somethings go mad when they see this shit and they think about sex all the time. Women want to cock tease but they only do it for the good looking fags. I'm tall, good looking but I still don't want to waste my time with women when I can read and make more money, two things that are far more useful for me than a silly woman giving me hugs n pussy.
But I digress. My apologies, gentlemen.
>>20884991
It's funny how much normies lack self-awareness. You see them all doing the same fucking thing while claiming it's "freeing" or something like that. But almost everyone does it.
The same women that today are wearing thongs and see-through yoga leggings would've worn those hilarious, huge ass circus monkey dresses that women were wearing before the 19th century.

>>20884254
Anti-sex is for individuals, not for normies.

>>20884476
>>20884414
There's no more mystery behind sex. We all know what it is. Messy, stinky, stressful, it leads to emotional drama and it's not that pleasurable nor is it interesting, unless you just like pleasure for the sake of pleasure. And fuck putting up with women (or men) just for the sake of sex.

>SEX BAD!!!
Have sex

>>20884490
What you're describing is an objective view of sex, devoid of any religion of cultural adornment. Sex really IS genitalia-reduced or focused, stinky, sweaty, disgusting, etc. and very intense, emotionally speaking. Excuse the incel-like description but you're basically shoving your weenie into a wet hole, full of gut-like bacteria, and your shove your pubes and dick cheese into that hole, piss particles, shit particles, and then you also cum into that, and you feel good, and then you feel angry and sad if you aren't near your sexual partner. That's ALL there is to it, speaking strictly of the activity itself.
I think very few people really analyze the activity, because it feels too good and it's kind of supposed to turn you into a zombie because otherwise no one would want to reproduce. Do you think women would've wanted to go through the pains (and the huge risk of death) of pregnancy and childbirth? No, it's irrational, it makes no sense.

Love is a cultural concept, this is why you cannot find it now. It means its existence was almost purely cultural. Love is basically a social agreement, where everyone says "so if we feel an emotional attachment to this pleasure we should allow it to control our lives completely, yes? alright".

>>20884265
This is true.
>>20884290
Why do you spread lies?
I had multiple relationships with all sorts of women and they're all like that.
>>20885005
He's 100% correct. Men used to be given that kind of advice decades ago. Now all we're told is to buy flowers and plan the date in advance, listen to her emotional garbage, etc. And then they cheat or divorce and give us STDs and we can't even complain about it, because it's all our fault, somehow.
I've tried both approaches. I know from personal experience that the livestock approach is far, far, far safer and more effective.
You do NOT want to be that guy who takes a woman 150% seriously in every way possible (intellectual, emotional, financial, etc.) and then finds out that she got her cheeks clapped by some guy on a business trip, who didn't have to do all that shit and who got better sex from her than you ever will.
She wouldn't do it on purpose, because it's just the female instinct to present her ass in front of the bigger, cooler guy. But does it matter?

>>20884361
You're not supposed to do anything. Society has different groups in it. The cool guys get to fuck and live a life free of responsibility, while the losers have to do what you're saying: providing, simping, emotional work, serious (not casual) sex, etc. People like you tell everyone to be a simp, a loser. Maybe some of us don't want that?

>>20884496
It's shit like that that makes me feel like we're all livestock with zero self awareness, eating grass, being milked dry and then dying or being killed for our beef. How the fuck can you say shit like "blackouts cause an increase in pregnancies" and not be aware of that? Fuck being a cow, man. I'm a real man. Let the breeders shit out the future wageslaves, I'm out.

>>20884165
>>20884851
Women give you the anie very easily if you're a chad. I'm a tall guy and I have nudes and I've done almost everything you see in porn (not japanese porn, though) to women of all kinds. Shy, confident, career women, academic women, women who work nigger jobs like cashiers, etc. They all let me fuck them in the ass and cum inside them, they all sucked my dick and gave me nudes. I have hundreds of gigabytes of nudes (mostly videos) on my computer, from multiple women. I'm not even a real chad, I'm just a tall guy who is good looking (which means top 20% facial aesthetics) and a decent job.

Women become bitches in heat if you look good. You can achieve this by being a chad, or by aiming below your level, or both.

>>20886601
Go to bed

>>20885140
Your point is that you define sex as "making love" and came up with a bullshit story to justify all that.
Also, imagine feeling guilty or shameful about a benign activity such as sex, lmao.

>>20886604
Read a book and learn about timezones, brainlet.

>>20884590
Sounds like humanity has reached its peak. After here it's all downhill. Existence is so shit smart people just don't see a point in it.

>>20886573
Love is a cultural concept insofar as it's a "novel" concept. By "novel," I just mean a fiction to facilitate the narrative continuity you associate with your existence. The modern "love" is a byproduct of 19th century novels, derived from 17th century playwrights.

>>20884290
you must be speaking about yourself because he is exactly right. I've never had a woman reject rough sex, they usually ask for it

>>20886622
>Love is a cultural concept insofar as it's a "novel" concept. By "novel," I just mean a fiction to facilitate the narrative continuity you associate with your existence. The modern "love" is a byproduct of 19th century novels, derived from 17th century playwrights.
Romanticism was pure cultural poison.

>>20886632
Losers just can't fathom that a woman could genuinely turn into that sex-obsessed primitive animal for them. If you look good then you can make any woman become your bitch. It doesn't matter who she is, what she does, what she wears or how cute she looks. You could make a cute librarian eat shit if you want, or eat your cum in a public toilet. Anything. I've dated career women from the big city, and I never had to do anything except come up with bullshit excuses as to why I cannot take them on dates, and then I'd have sex with them for hours, doing whatever I wanted. One time I didn't even shower before meeting her, and I was such a stinky, stinky man, but she still got naked for me. Losers can't understand this and will call me a larper, which makes it so fucking funny

>>20884368
>>20884414
These are related. We are living through a period of hyper-masculinity (anti-potential, anti-mystery, anti-unknown) which is manifesting itself in a lot of unusual ways
>virtualization (individuation) of sex
>rise of same-sex relationships
>feminist individualism
>plummeting religiosity
>incel hobby-culture with grown men valuing material delusions instead of seeking adventure
it's really sad and you see it everywhere

>>20886682
>>incel hobby-culture with grown men valuing material delusions instead of seeking adventure
How is that hyper-masculine?

>>20886643
So? Sex is not a big deal, it's just a function, like peeing is. Address your sex addiction.

>>20886884
I haven't had sex in a long time because I agree with you that it's a waste of time. I feel the same guilt I feel after wasting my time watching a shitty movie or playing video games when I cum in a woman. I want to GTFO as soon as I cum, and that's why I stopped dating women, because I don't want to be neglectful and to have to deal with pregnancies and the stench and stupidity of the average woman, who is an intellectual and emotional black hole.

I was simply replying to that anon.

>>20886682
>>incel hobby-culture with grown men valuing material delusions instead of seeking adventure
Dumbest shit I've read today. What's "adventure" to you? Changing diapers and waging extra hard to support wifey and wageslave jr?

>>20886891
you're damaged but are desperately trying to pass yourself off as a cool. damaged fucks like you are a big part of the problem. kys.

>>20885030
They think with their pussy is what you mean. If women cannot be logical they don't deserve to exist

>>20886891
I used to be like this too when I was 13

>>20886878
It's not, he's just saying it is a manifestation. In the sense, he focuses on the fact that incels obsessing over how much a "top man" looks, so they seek surgeries to fix their looks, which I think is not wrong, in the sense, it's probably body dysphoria.

Saying everything is "hyper-masculine" is a copout.

If anything feminists say they care about men is also funny, they never do, women even feminists don't care about collective men, they only care about the top men and want those jobs. Because money is apparently power.

>>20886895
Too close to home eh?

>>20886682
That doesn't sound hyper masculine to me, actually the opposite

>>20885140
The third world usually has arranged marriage. America does not. Think about it.

>>20882488
Most female don't like anal or being completely ghosted after sex.
Girls like being dominated and attention, yes.
The idea that girls don't like being filmed is ridiculous.
There is an entire side dedicated to girls taking pictures of themselves naked.
Girls LOVE to use their sexuality to court male attention.

>>20886899
I used to think being older was cool back when I was a kid, too. Grow up, retard. Come up with a proper argument instead of attempting to insult people on an anonymous imageboard.

>>20886896
He's coping with all the empty sex, meanwhile a lot of us cope here with no sex, and so he calls us "losers". If we are truly losers, and he's not having sex anymore, is he a loser too? Sometimes these people live in their heads too much and they say we live in our heads, LMAO.

And funny thing is incels are right, looks matter and he's proven it again. But this anti-sex, anti-feminist etc revolution or fight by these minority of women who are not feminists, and women who look beyond feminism know their time's up and they have no pickers, either they fell through the cracks like a lot of us "losers" or they are tired of the guy you just asked to kill himself because he had so much vapid sex and his dopamine levels dropped to negative levels just like ultra coomers who fap 100 times a day.

These women are seeing feminism in moderation.

But I see regret in women who have had empty sex and now want to put toothpaste back in tube. Sorry, not happening. An average man will be scared and even can smell from a long distance about the miles of cock you have ridden, and even when he gets into a relationship with you, a breakup is happening because people change and you will start feeling unattracted to him because he's not a chad you banged, and you don't like his ways and the way you relate is broken. And he feels insecure and starts to distance himself, and sometime will break and eventually things fail.

Many people learn the hard way, actions have consequences, heck even words have consequences.

>>20882881
To the contrary.
Empires, lordship, sefdom, harems and marriage as a contract were the men have autorithy and responsability over a women will come back with a vengence.
You have to be a retard to don't see it.

>>20886907
>bro you have to change diapers and listen to wifey, stop doing incel shit like reading, reading is materialism, it's boogeymanism, it's bad-ism
No matter how many disparaging labels you attach to an activity, you're just a stupid normie that wants to defend his way of coping with life. You're predictable and stupid

>>20884414
Our society is not more sexual.
We have SODOMY not SEXUALITY.
Society became fake, gay and sterile.

I'm not even talking about marriage. The concept of LOVER like Don Juan completely dissapeared.

>>20886573
Trannies are not human beings.
A non-human does not have a reight to argue or put into doubt what means to be human.

>>20886896
Cool impotent anger, bro.
>>20886922
I'm not sure if I called anyone a loser for being like that ITT, and by that I mean for not having had sex. Reading your post makes me think you're arguing with yourself, honestly. You've written a bunch of stuff about feminism, lookism, inceldom, etc. I don't have a lot to do with the stuff you've mentioned there.

>>20886933
What does your tranny fetish have to do with my post? Keep your low IQ interjections out of this thread, subhuman. I don't want to talk about fucking trannies with you.

>>20886930
>I'm not even talking about marriage. The concept of LOVER like Don Juan completely dissapeared.
Because it was simply a concept.

>>20886948
>Because it was simply a concept.
Are you seriously this dense and retarded?
This is why I hate trannies.
I wasn't just "a concept" it was a more complex behavior.
More complex = More evolved (for human standards).
In the past you couldn't "tinder buy" a piece of ass fuck it and then send it home with uber. You have to be a lover (or a rapist).

Technology is making us more retarded.
Just saying
> but muuuuhhhh anon, this is human nature, completely free of the chains of the past

No, is human behavior devolved thanks to technological dementia.
Technology make us retarded. In the same way people that use and over use GPS are losing spatial capability and forward thinking, tinderellas and tinderstuds are losing social skills and basic human behavior like pair bonding.
This is pushing us to a behavioral sink.

>>20886966
Judging from your obsession with trannies and /pol/-tier trad stuff I suspect that if I were to give you a serious reply you'd dismiss it and tell me to "cope seethe and dilate". I'm not interesting in talking about hairy men in skirts, you dumb nigger. Life is too short, and I'm far too intelligent to waste my time thinking about stupid, disgusting shit.

>>20881474
Leftists are finally figuring out ways to agree with what reactionaries have said for decades without blaming themselves for their own choices.

>>20886925
>disparaging labels
>proceeds to call me stupid normie
embracing fatherhood and raising children is authentic masculinity with a proper integration of the feminine. Retreating into a personalized, mental headspace divorced from the mystery of life itself is escapist, unbalanced hyper-masculinity

>>20886941
>I don't have a lot to do with the stuff you've mentioned there.
Exactly, it's your cope because you are on the other side. And I'm simply putting a meaning into the emptiness of your existence which you are trying to figure out. Incels are rationalists, and have accepted their fate. At least most of them, those who don't rage.

>>20887099
><this> is <the mystery of life>, <that> is not (sources: my arbitrariness)
>if you don't do the thing I want you to do, you are escapist
Nope, I reject all that and I won't do as you say.
I do was I want.
Anything else you want to say?

>>20887110
>Exactly, it's your cope because you are on the other side. And I'm simply putting a meaning into the emptiness of your existence which you are trying to figure out. Incels are rationalists, and have accepted their fate. At least most of them, those who don't rage.
Again, you're arguing with yourself. I don't think sex is the meaning of life, it's just one of the many things we humans can and probably should do (but we're not force to, thank god). Another thing I don't understand is why do you project a lack of meaning onto my life?

>>20885002
She did quite a bit of evolutionary psychology research for the book, which shows what everyone deep down already knows. Women tend towards lower socio-sexuality than men on average(compare homosexual male vs female partner counts and the difference is insane), have a lower sexual disgust threshold, are more cautious about sex, enjoy casual sexual encounters less, bond to their sex partners more, and so on. Men's ability to have many women impregnated at once, and the relative low cost of sex for men means that promiscuity benefits males on a reproductive level. Women can only be impregnated once at a time and the cost of pregnancy is very high for them. Men and women's emotional dispositions towards sex (on average) evolved to accommodate this reproductive dynamic. Expecting men to invest a lot into a woman for a sexual access so to balance her high investment in the reproductive act balances things out. The women who lower the cost of sex means that women who don't have to fear being considered as not being worth it and passed over, this is why women slut shame each other. It's trying to get a collective agreement about how much men should invest into sexual access with a woman as a norm.