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20874518 No.20874518 [Reply] [Original]

I see a lot of trads pointing out here that Nietzsche never criticized Christianity, just German Protestantism. How true is this?

>> No.20874540

have you considered reading nietzsche yourself du dummer bastard du absolut geistig behinderte missgeburt mein gott halt doch bitte deine scheißfresse

>> No.20874554

Why don't you read his works and find out? Oh sorry I forgot you're ugly stupid mental wanker paedophile get the fuck off my board

>> No.20874558

Read the first 30 pages of Human All Too Human (not the preface, the first book) and find out for yourself

>> No.20874563

Read any part of Nietzche

>> No.20874602

Why don't you actually read him you mouth-breather

>> No.20874609

>>20874602
OP is a twitter subculturefag phoneposting a twitter screenshot, his life revolves around talking about books while never actually reading one

>> No.20874619

>>20874518
Retarded question, read Nietzsche motherfucker and find out, your clearly not illiterate.

>> No.20874633

Op here: I’m guessing none of you have read Nietzsche but thanks for trying to help anyway

>> No.20874636

>>20874518
He criticized Christianity (religion), not Christianity (Christ's teachings). Christ also criticizes religion.

>> No.20874639

>Noble Lie utility
Roman Catholicism would have its uses if it were still organizing crusades. Eastern Christianity has the Dionysian aspect of mysticism, becoming like Jesus, non-emphasis on the Crucifixion as if He was merely a makeweight kapparot sacrifice to Baal When he objects to "Gemut" it's related to Pietism and Quietism, which he'd have familiarity with from his preacher father.

>> No.20874649

>>20874633
>oh fuck oh fuck theyre all telling me to read a book i could easily have just read what they're saying makes perfect sense oh fuck
>"Oh yeah well none of you have read Nietzsche, like me, I also haven't!"
Stop being a faggot and go read a book by Nietzsche right now. This is a defining moment in your life where you must choose: remain a gay little zoomer bitch forever, or take the high and difficult road for once in your life, listen to constructive criticism, and stop coasting through every problem on kneejerk reactions that you have simply acquired unconsciously

You can't save or lose face on an anonymous forum you pussy fag. The only thing that happens after this encounter is whether you go read some Nietzsche and learn a life lesson, or make a subtle but definitive choice to remain a faggot forever.

>> No.20874655

>>20874518
They might be confusing he intense hatred for germans in general for only disliking german protestantism.

>> No.20874662

>>20874649
>you can’t ask a question about a book on this board because you must immediately read every book you want to know anything about before knowing anything about it
Of maybe just maybe you don’t know yourself

>> No.20874668

>>20874662
It's more when you got specific responses and didn't engage with them because all your zoomer brain knows how to do is have text chats and defend your "identity" like a teenage girl

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>>20874662
Your asking a retarded question OP, you might as well ask "was Nietzsche a German?", There's no discussion to be had here, you're asking me to dictate shit to you, it's a boring fucking question. Read "genealogy of morality" "the Antichrist" "beyond Good and evil" actually just any Nietzsche and your damn question would be answered. Stop clogging up the board with retarded shit. I read most of my shit in PDFs but here's my old as copy with pages falling out of "thus spoke Zarathustra" ADHD zoomer.

>> No.20874786

TSZ intro involves something akin of “I will ignore Thou shall and I will arm myself with I will”

In his the antichrist In my memory he address the turn your other cheek quote by insulting it and ridiculing it

>> No.20874797

>>20874518
Who cares

>> No.20875028

>>20874518
it's dumb christlet cope, unless you believe Protestantism emerged in a vacuum and shares no origin with whatever their preferred sect of the month is

>> No.20875369

His criticisms were generally not targeted at protestantism, he dismissed the reformation as a peasants revolt

>> No.20875413

>>20874518
>t. only learnt about Nietzsche today and is too much of a dribbling idiot to be able to put any effort into doing any real research or putting any effort into his works so tries to stir shit up on the only respectable board

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>>20874518
>>20874540
>>20874554
>>20874558
>>20874563
>>20874602
>>20874609
>>20874619
>>20874633
>>20874649
imagine taking the time out of your day to read neetchud the bitter incel that got cucked by a jew named ree

>> No.20875946

>>20874518
These people have never read Nietzsche ("trads" tend to not read at all, they merely pretend that they do) and are going from second hand opinions. If you read The Antichrist he does say that protestantism is an even worse version of Christianity (he calls it "paraplegic christianity") and that protestants must be dealt with more harshly than Catholics, but his dislike for the religion extends to all types of Christians.

>> No.20876290

>>20874518
>t. Never read Antichrist

>> No.20876291 [DELETED] 

>>20875751
Excited for 10th grade, niglet?

>> No.20876300

>>20875946
He criticizes christianity because of its semitic origins, semetics being plebs and not Ancient White Hyperborean Masters like the Germans.

>> No.20876374

>>20876300
your alphabet originates from semites, might as well retvrn to illiteracy then

>> No.20876411

>>20875946
The people who argue this are arguing that Nietzche is incorrect about Catholicism, and that all of his critiques are actually aimed at early (Jewish) Christianity, and late (Protestant) Christianity, these two branches sharing very similar traits. It's a valid argument to make, that Nietzsche was wrong about Catholicism, and its supported in certain places by Nietzsche praising the will to power of Popes and the splendor and power of the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages and Renaissance.

>> No.20876453

>>20876411
>Nietzsche praising the will to power of Popes and the splendor and power of the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages and Renaissance
If tardlarper e-converts to "Catholicism" think they've more in common with dynastic popes—ruling central italy as private fiefdom, commanding armies, commissioning art, and flagrantly and sovereignly trangressing every little commandment of the zombie rabbi—than they do with low church Protestants and that therefore they are exempt from Nietzsche's critique, they are beyond wrong

>> No.20876495

>>20876453
>and that therefore they are exempt from Nietzsche's critique
They're arguing that Nietzsche's critique is flawed, which would be correct, they're not trying to assert Nietzsche was saying something he wasn't. So yes, they would naturally be beyond something that is wrong (although only qualifiedly, ie it still pertains to early Christianity and Protestantism) to begin with

>> No.20876510

neetcuck: prussian aristocrats should mix with jews to inject strength into their blood
CHAD WAGNER: viscerally disgusted by racemixing

>> No.20876712

>>20876495
>which would be correct
Oh, do explain to us how Catholicism is not Christian in origin and how it has kept these origins at bay rather than regressing to its base expression the way Protestantism has. Is it because of the nice buildings from 500 years ago? The smells? The bells perhaps?

>> No.20877627

>>20876411
He liked cartholicism when they were behaving more like pagans than catholics and ignoring their own doctrines.
>>20876300
Not true, he was quite fond of Islam.

>> No.20877962

>>20876374
ᛋᛈᛠᛣ ᚠᚩᚱ ᚣᚩᚢᚱ ᛋᛖᛚᚠ ᚾIᚸᚪ

>> No.20877965

>>20876510
Chagner