/lit/ - Literature

>>20851717
as far as i know RS bakker is just the eleatics in novel form so maybe just read them?

>>20851717
Maybe you don't have the power to understand Bakker.

Bakker isn't even that great, despite being the best Fantasy on the market rn, so yes you got filtered.

>>20851734
Bakker IS great, he is the best author in modernity, and in the fantasy genre, even you admit he rules supreme.

>Scott "rape aliens" baker
>good

Just read real philosophy instead os reading a pornographic fantasy book

>>20851740
He's no Tolkien or even a Herbert, but yes within context of contemporary fantasy he's head and shoulders above garbage like Sanderson.

>>20851727
>>20851727
I understood it. It's just I'm past my edgy 'reading hard things because they're hard' phase. I only read to be entertained and this failed to do that.

>>20851750
>He's no Tolkien or even a Herbert
He took inspiration from them and made it even better, he rules supreme over Tolkien and he certainley rules supreme over Herbert, he has better story than Tolkien and a better world than Herbert, he is also more philosophical and more complex than Tolkien, he is more grim than Herbert and mores sublime, he also better at prose than both of them.

>>20851761
>It's just I'm past my edgy 'reading hard things
Then go read SOFT things like sandersois, go read mistborn and go post in the Sanderson forum.

>>20851764
Bakker has his qualities but to say he's better than Tolkien or Herbert is just foolishness. He's not even in the same league as Tolkien & Herbert in terms of sublimity and philosophy, owing to the fact that his work has no discernible philosophy in itself, and is really more just a grand exploration of concepts.

>>20851717
The series does sputter as it goes along in a fashion typical for the genre. The first three books are unironically nice, but the rest only hit if you got really pulled in. For me, TWP and UC were both a resounding "meh".

>>20851764
>Tolkien
>Pick any page of LOTR

>Bakker
>"The very ground reeks of cunny!"

Better prose, yes.

>>20851784
>For me, TWP and UC were both a resounding "meh".
Bakker barely edited them and it shows. Good chunks of those books read like fucking first drafts. TPON trilogy was infinitely more polished.

>>20851717
Why did you make a thread for Bakkerfag to spew his bullshit in?

>>20851779
Only a fool can say Tolkien is more sublime than Bakker, Bakker has better prose, more depth and more complex world, compared to tolkien's good vs evil bullshit.

>>20851886
This is your brain on post-modernist retardation.

>>20851895
Tolkien brain is on christcuck retardation.

Lots of girls on youtube are starting to get into him now. They complain about it, but they can't keep away from the sexual violence.

>Tolkien prose
Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo!
Ring a dong! hop along! fal lal the willow!
Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!

>Bakker prose
A wind had dropped into the silence, and the scent of the onlookers filled his nostrils: the bitter of rotting teeth, the ink of armpits, the honey of unwashed anuses, all shot through with strands of balsam, orange, and jasmine. And for a moment it seemed he stood within a great circle of apes, hunched and unwashed, watching him with dark and dumbfounded eyes.

>>20851921
You leave my Tom out of this, you whore

>>20851919
Bakker knows how to make girls both scream and cream.

>>20851921
>honey of unwashed anuses

>>20851921
>A man reveling in the joy of creation and being
vs
>"they stink lol"
You played yourself.

>>20851927
Tom Bombadil is a fat assed fellow
Big fat belly and his hole is yellow

>>20851936
>A man reveling in the joy of creation and being
More like a onions boi who is fat being a useless simp to a blonde whore.

You played yourself, Tom Simpdel.

Simps like Tom Bombadil because he remind them of themselves, he is fat, a simp, and a useless retard hoping around with his fat jiggling.

>>20851941
Now argue the merits of your stinky sentence, or better yet the cunny dragon.

>>20851951
The prose itself is good, you can smell the stink as you read, compare that with Tolkien's retarded song and Tolkien becomes a joke.

>>20851955
You failed.

>>20851960
Your Tom Simpdel failed to do a useful thing in his life, beside hoping around like a fat ass.

Hey Simp! merry simp! fucked by a dildo!
Sucks a dong! hop along! fat ass of the willow!
Tom the Simp, jolly Tom, Tom Simpbadillo!

>>20851955
Filled his nostrils, great circle of apes, dark and dumbfounded eyes are all cliched descriptions. The rest is just juxtaposing random smelly thing with random romanticist sensory trope.

With Tolkien that song follows a rhyme scheme and meter which gives it its sing-songiness. Obvious who is the better writer.

>>20851972
>sing-songiness
Tolkien is a lowly singer while Bakker is the king of prose.

Congrats, you played yourself.

>>20851982
schizophrenia

>>20851982
King of using cliches for sure.

Bakker > Steve Erikson

Simple as.

>Steve Erikson
Bald
>Bakker
Golden hair of noble length.

>>20851991
This is acceptable. Stay in your lane, Bakkerfags.

>>20851997
Tolkien is the equivalent of reading a cartoon show, Bakker is the equivalent of reading philosophy.

>>20851740
Bakker stop shilling yourself it's pathetic

>>20851886
>Only a fool can say Tolkien is more sublime than Bakker, Bakker has better prose, more depth and more complex world, compared to tolkien's good vs evil bullshit
This one schizo that fixated on Bakker all over /lit/ is a really weird guy. Unless it's Bakker shilling himself (he seems the type)
Better than Tolkien and Herbert, sure thing buddy. Fucking lunatic.

>>20852029
The only lunatic here is people who read surface level kid stuff like Tolkien and saying it's better than Bakker, Tolkien has no depth, and his story is lacking, Bakker is way more complex and has more depth.

>>20851717
Supremacy of Bakker forever real
No matter how hard you squeal

So uh, his books are about cognition.. or language.. or God, or something? Doesn't sound like all that, there's dozens of sci-fi novels like that

Is he actually dead?
I can’t believe he could let himself get punked by a fag with a chorae unless it was part of grand design or something.

>>20851991
schizo

>>20851750
Sanderson is better

>>20851717
I fucking loved these books. One of the few good things /lit/ has memed me into reading.

>>20851779
Bakker had a coherent philosophy. You have a thing, and then its opposite, like Heraclitus. It's the dialectical.

Now there is this Absolute, but to attain that you need to progress through the dialectical. How do you do that? Hegel told us, sublation.

But this is a novel, and so how does our hero protagonist and ultimate good guy, you know who, do it? By raping. This is why he has to rape and murder all the bad guys, but why he also has to rape, and then often murder the decent characters too, and why the books end suggesting he is probably going off to go rape, and maybe kill the gods too.

Just the way it goes. Freedom ain't free.