/lit/ - Literature

Yes

No. Just because you like something or think it’s profound or has pages like a book doesn’t make it literature.

>>20842461

Why not?

>>20842453
only if it contains themes such as lolicon or shotacon

>>20842457
You don’t have the authority to make such a claim.

>>20842479
Manga is in book form. It isn’t literature because it is managa. Like Spiderman isn’t literature

>>20842485
Lolita isn’t manga till what?

>>20842493

What if spiderman was a novel?

Manga is Literature
I have the authority to say this btw

>>20842453
Barely literature. It's pictures with a chat bubble every now and then. Light novels are where it's at

>>20842548

What about manga's with wall of texts?

>>20842502
The obvious answer is that the story is written and not illustrated in any way.

>>20842519
You are hereby sentenced to a twenty year prison term by the authority of international librarians coalition

>>20842572

What about written books but has drawings in them, for example Alice in Wonderland by Carroll?

>>20842453
This is the definition. I think Manga could go through as literature in a sense
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/englisch/literature

>>20842567
Perhaps...

>>20842599
“Picture book”, usually children’s books, but also scientific journals and the like.
Ever see a scientific book in managa form?
An epic poem in manga form? —oh, that reminds me of Dore’s illustrated Dante.

Anyway. Managa isn’t literature. You can tell Neon Genesis Evangellan however you spell it, in just text and it can be considered literature.

Weebshit is what baudrillard warned us about. Do not let it gain a foothold on /lit/

>>20842567
hunter x hunter is literature

>>20842453
It is a form of art of the same worth but not literature

>>20842661
This a direct quote? I don’t buy that last line.
Anyway he’s pointing out the problem bookworms have too. Since the beginnings of literature. It breeds misanthropy. I love literature, but it damages some people the same as manga does to otaku. You can see it here

>>20842453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AefLPBlONtw

Are visual novels literature?

>>20842656

Would you consider scientific mangas as literature if there are more available in English?

>>20842722

It's not a real quote

However, Miyazaki does criticize otaku culture on how people who have no interest in people are the ones who make stories about people (paraphrasing)

>>20842722
No I dont buy this ultra relativistic viewpoint that manga is "just another medium" and all mediums are somehow equal. The demographic dictates the market and weebs are the trashiest demographic of all.


Go into any manga community/forum and look around. Look at the front page of /a/. Or if you think /a/ is not representative of the community look at a more "normie" place like /r/manga. It's 90% isekai/coomer shit. Every few posts you get someome posting a borderline h page asking for source. The new series of the month is always some sex slave revenge hax power escapist fantasy.That's just the target demographic.
Now imagine if the entire literary community is like a goodreads group centered around smut. Or if 90% of films are like skinemax or syfy. That's the anime community.

>>20842764
Never meant to imply scientific books were literature. They’re a kind of picture book

>>20842777
Yes, most weebs have trash taste, but that doesn't mean there aren't masterworks in this medium

>>20842453
No more than Harry Potter's literature. It's light reading to entertain manchildren.

>>20842815

What about women who reads manga and literature?

>>20842815
HP is Children’s literature.

>>20842800
There are some good ones sure but they're few and far between. And ironically weebs spurn anything that touches upon the 3dpd condition and think SoL moe is the pinnacle of taste. So an /a/ denizen would only like the series you posted because it contains "straight shota"

>>20842453
No

Stop paying attention to weeb communities and maybe you biased anons will discover suitable manga. They may not be easy to find, but the medium is enough diverse to host works not too different from renowned text books.
As for OP, I don't know.

>>20842855

How come Nabokov never wrote a book titled "Shota" ?

>>20842732
Yes.

>>20842951
Like asking how come he never wrote anything good

>>20842453
Manga is the hamburger of literature, like Marvel movies are the hamburger of cinema

Which is more difficult to define?

A woman or a literature?

>>20843057
Anything

In my mind, manga features illustrations first and foremost while the text is secondary. Literature features text first and foremost. So it's not literature. If text was simply required to be literature, then movies with subtitles would be literature too. So would comics. Why do people say manga is literature but comics aren't. Because it's black and white? It makes no sense. The written word is the defining feature.

>>20842453
Yes.

>>20843841
Read the thread. You’ll find you’re mistaken