/lit/ - Literature

anything good on kindle unlimited?

>>20835361
read cradle!

Is the red knight good

>>20835380
I read the first book ages back. It was entertaining enough, but it falls into the trap of trying to make everything grim and gritty which just makes it come across as a huge cliche.

>>20835388
>/sffg/ says it's comfy
>book begins with a description of a nun getting torn up and fucking eviscerated
>then it cuts to a bear getting tortured and then flipping out and murdering everyone including the little girl who took pity on it
this is why I can't trust you guys

Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinniman

[System… Apocalypse?]

On a snowy Seattle night, a 27-year-old Marine Tech darts outside in his jacket, boxers, and a pair of his ex-girlfriend’s crocs to save her cat from a tree and grab a smoke. At this moment, every piece of human architecture on the planet collapses into the earth and sinks below, killing anyone within and reducing Earth’s population significantly. A broadcast is made to the survivors notifying them that Dungeon Crawl Earth is about to begin, with everyone consumed by the collapse being reduced to biomass and retooled into a massive sub-terranean dungeon. Turns out the people of Earth are subject to a universal game show, ran by companies that seed other planets with life for the sole purpose of entertainment. All the survivors are left with a choice: enter the dungeon and play the game or stay on the now-mostly-barren surface and hope for the best.

The dungeon takes on a twisted yet entertaining mix of aliens, DnD monsters, and some memes that have been combined with different movie references to create boss monsters. Reptoid Chads, krakens with mouths instead of suckers that bitch in your ear, etc. There’s a lot of creativity in this title in combining different elements in fantasy, sci-fi and life together for a challenging scenario. Though strength and smarts are good, unfortunately the entire universe is a lot like an Instagram account – if you don’t have enough followers or likes, you’re fuckin’ dead. Play nice for the sponsoring companies and they’ll shower you with gifts, but a challenge to the company or administering AI is usually met with death.

[Our MCs]

Carl is our 27-year-old Marine Tech that finds himself in a dungeon with his ex’s cat wearing only boxers and crocs. Though the situation seems bleak, Carl proves himself more than resourceful by demonstrating a MacGuyver-like affinity for jury rigging different technology (and explosives). A genuinely well-written an endearing character, we learn more about his upbringing and relationship with Beatrice and her cat as the story progresses. Not one to directly involve himself in other people’s bullshit, he’s hesitant at first to interfere until he perceives a deep injustice in both the system and the mentalities of the players now involved with this game. This leads him to challenge the game directly – “You will not break me.”

Princess Donut is… an award-winning cat who belongs to Carl’s ex-girlfriend Bea. Due to the incoming apocalypse she’s driven outside and inadvertently saves Carl’s life. Within the Dungeon she consumes an Enhanced Pet Biscuit from a drop box, enabling her to transform into a hyper-intelligent animal. The dungeon then recognizes her as a TRUE participant, and she becomes the leader of her and Carl’s party within the dungeon. Her and Carl’s relationship, along with her interactions with Bea, are explored in this story and it’s extremely ODD at times to feel so much for a cat’s predicaments in life.

>>20835422
[Supporting Characters]

I wasn’t sure how to format this last section, but the Dungeon AI is a character in their own right. As the dungeon crawlers proceed, they constantly earn achievements and develop skills like an MMO. ALL achievements and enemy scans come with the Dungeon AI’s narration, providing a light-hearted and sometimes disgusting (or horny) preview into this new world and its creatures. It also provides small details about the universe at large and the different factions within it. Seems like he’s taken a liking to Carl and his beautiful feet…

Mordecai also deserves a mention as he’s one of my favorite characters in the novel for personality and SOUL alone. Having participated in a Dungeon Crawl on another world some seasons back, he was lucky enough to be the final survivor and was presented with a choice: serve the corporation as a tutorial guild master or die with nothing. Despite his trauma from participating and being interred, he does his best to assist Carl and Donut with their crawl. Now stuck in the dungeon as a changeling, he’s looking forward to getting this over with… just ONE crawl from retirement.

[Final Thoughts]

I think I made a mistake having this be my first LitRPG because it’s one of the better books I’ve read in this haul and may set unrealistic expectations going forward. That said, I really love Carl and Princess Donut’s interactions. The way the personal story between them evolves now that she talks regularly is incredibly endearing. Great character-driven narrative that uses the litRPG aspects to build up this fantastic story in interesting ways. Carl’s strong values help to build Donut’s character and vice versa.

Only way to consume this is through the audiobook, however. FANTASTIC production and the narrator is fucking phenomenal. He only serves to reinforce my hatred of Travis Baldtree. Hope Jeff Hayes gets every contract he deserves.

9/10

Previous Scores:
>Lord of the Mysteries by Cuttlefish – 9/10
>Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinniman - 9/10
>Cradle by Will Wight - 8/10 (Dropped a full point value, he's not sticking the landing)
>Ave Xia Rem Y by Mat Haz - 8/10
>Forge of Destiny by Yrsillar - 7/10
>A Thousand Li by Tao Wong - 7/10
>Retribution Engine by Akaso - 6/10
>Virtuous Sons by Ya Boy - 6/10
>Bastion by Phil Tucker - 6/10
>Mother of Learning Act I - 5/10
>Reverend Insanity by Gu Zhen Ren - 5/10
>I Shall Seal The Heavens by Er Gen - 5/10
>Beware of Chicken (Non-Edited for Release) by Casualfarmer – 5/10
>Soulhome by Sarah Lin - 5/10
>Soulship by Nathan Thompson - 4/10
>Beware of Chicken (Edited for Release) by Casualfarmer - 3/10
>Reincarnation: Threads by Michael Head - 3/10
>Last Ship in Suzhou by Lungs - Dropped (0/10)

>Current and Upcoming Reads
17. Dungeon Crawler Carl - Complete, waiting 'til next thread since these last 2 reviews were long as fuck.
18. Wandering Inn #1
19. Worm
20. ??? (Still deciding)

>>20835432
Ah fuck, forgot to edit that DCC line.

Current and Upcoming Reads:
>18. Wandering Inn #1
>19. Worm
>20. ??? (Still deciding - likely another LitRPG since I haven't sampled that genre enough)

Can link back to the past reviews if people are interested. Seems over-indulgent otherwise.

>>20835357
I still don't understand how the greatest Japanese fantasy series hasn't been translated. They just stopped not even 10% into it.

>Kaladin is afraid of dropping people while flying in front of the storm
>Shallan volunteered for the test flight
>We didn't get to see their interaction during the test flight, the book just skipped to when they activate the oathgate.
Oathbringer is so fucking shit, it can't even do one thing right.
This fucking book, man.

>>20835405
It really is comfy though, strong bromance among the company. Other strong friendships forged by hard campaigns. That kind of thing.

The books are not constant grim and death, there's lulls and Chivalry Tournaments, plenty of time outside of combat for romance too.
In the first book the Company is basically constantly at war, they get to relax a bit in the second book while other characters go through hardships.

>>20835380
Avē Imperātor!

>>20835443
It's 145 books long and they probably didn't sell well

>>20835432
How do you decide your scores?

>>20835516
Personal enjoyment and comparing it to my list. 'Did I like X over Y? Yes, but not as much as Z. Therefore.... [score].' Simple as.

>>20835432
Not surprised you liked DCC so much, it's incredibly competent by webnovel standards. Conceptualy it's the peak of Litrpg genre in terms of harvesting the potential - gamelike world, but justified, with story based on entertainment and struggle, which synergizes extremely well with the idea. If you start reading more Litrpgs, you'll notice the near-perfect way to differentiate between trash and serious stories is to see whether an author treats the 'system' (or whatever the source of numbers giving powers in a given world) in the story. If there's no more to it than that it exists - it's cheap trash, if the author has the protagonist question what System is, how it works, and why does it even exist, then you have a serious author wanting to write a real story.

By the way, how is reading TWI so far?

>>20835459
I honestly don’t care about Kaladin anymore after what he did in Kholinar. He is a huge failure. I don’t see how he can redeem himself anymore.

Fuschia was awful at the beginning of Titus Groan, but her arc really was good and I ended up really enjoying her character after the Earl dies

READ CRADLE!

What should I read if I want stories of human marines going to alien worlds and enslaving them through military might?

>>20835747
Undying Mercenaries by B.V Larson.

>>20835762
It was good, but I already read it.
I'd preface my request with all the ones I had read, but I don't remember them all. What else have you got for me?

>>20835776
Nothing, the vast majority of modern "pulp" sci-fi is just social justice soapboxing disguised as sci-fi. You could try Jack Campbell's Lost Fleet series but it's got no focus at all on conquest really and the primary conflict is humans against humans instigated by interstellar reptilian jews.

>>20835781
I enjoyed Lost Fleet for a while, but the book had the annoying tendency to fall into the soapboxing you just described. The admiral is supposedly sun tzu incarnate and the fleet worships the ground he treads on, but every arc follows the template of there being a few traitorous elements which admiral jesus allows to fester on the basis of some weird misguided sense of giving everyone a fair go, that of course ends up with the traitorous captains killing literally thousands of crewmen through incompetence or outright subterfuge. The arc ends with admiral saying something to the extent of "they wont ever be forgiven" as if he isn't directly responsible every single time due to his inane morale grandstanding. Around the third time that happened the fleet literally offered to make him the god emperor with his response being the same canned "I'm a good boy I find your offer to give me the power and responsibility to oust the corrupt politicians and bureaucrats I just spent five books whinging about, to be completely reprehensible".

It was the most insane type of have your cake and eat it too soapboxing I have ever read.

Which book like dark souls

>>20835799
Yes, modern sci fi is garbage.

>>20835432
interesting. DCC doesn't look like something i'd enjoy, just judging from the synopsis and the covers, but this makes me want to put it on my backlog after all.

>>20835807
How come its not the same with fantasy? If you're willing to eat shit there's at least a massive range of shit to eat. Scifi seems to only attract these kinds of writers.

Well, it is what it is. In that case what books should I read if I want the fantasy version of military scifi?

>>20835802
Book of the New Sun is the Dark Souls of /sffg/

>>20835818
>How come its not the same with fantasy?
Because sci-fi is attractive to people who are far down on the spectrum. And what do you get when you combine autism, the tech sector, and a lack of vitamin D? Troons. Sci-fi is infested with troons.
Fantasy suffers less from it because it requires more character focused writing to work, which filters out the autistic troons to a degree.

>>20835702
I am now dreading what is going to happen.

>>20835747
Not exactly what you're looking for, but you might enjoy Strange Company.

>>20835860
looks cute

>>20835860
This sounds like a fun read anon, thank you very much.

>>20835865
If you've read The Black Company it's basically that, but in space.

>>20835868
>Written from the perspective of the Log Keeper
Wow you weren't kidding. When does the yandere dominatrix antagonist show up?

>>20835873
Later.

>>20835873
>>20835877
Why aren't domineering yandere gfs more popular in SFF

>>20835818
>>20835826
>Because sci-fi is attractive to people who are far down on the spectrum. And what do you get when you combine autism, the tech sector, and a lack of vitamin D? Troons. Sci-fi is infested with troons.
A typical sci-fi story is focused on the possible technological developements and their impact on people, relationships and society as a whole. The autistic kind of sci-fi that you describe is rare, because by default it appeals to people on spectrum or weird normies. Stories about transpeople and other stuff about gender is much easier to write than technological fantasy, not to mention easy to read.

Fantasy is a genre infested with chads that rule supreme over sci-fi twinks.

>>20835889
>A typical sci-fi story is focused on the possible technological developements and their impact on people, relationships
This is the autistic kind of scifi.

>>20835898
Fantasy author can describe something like this and say "ok so here's how big bad conan/cool twink elric is going to run through them all with his sword/magic and he's gonna get the babes and treasure and shit".

Scifi authors have to go and build a warp drive and what figure out ship hulls are made out of and stuff first. Once they've figured that out the fantasychad is already riding on dragons through the dark lands.

>>20835907
>Scifi authors have to go and build a warp drive and what figure out ship hulls are made out of and stuff first. Once they've figured that out the fantasychad is already riding on dragons through the dark lands.
False. A sci-fi author can be as fast as a fantasy author, but he'd need to be as sparse on the details of the warp drive. A fantasy mage just says magic and adds some little justification, from a scientist in sci-fi readers require more.

Of course, a less ambitious sci-fi would give as much details as the wizard, or cover it up with techno-babble. Why do you think Dune is in spirit more of a fantasy than sci-fi? Because it has people using magic powder to do everything. People even become sci-fi wizards by sniffing it. There is no hard science or justifications, it's the story that matters. That's why it's fantasy.

Has anybody read this?

>>20835929
I don't read books written by women.

>>20835929
Based on the video game series?

>>20835937
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys?wprov=sfla1
Are you fucking retarded?

>>20835937
>Based on the video game series?
The lack of big breasts on female characters and their downright normal look is unironically making me interested in this game, is a not derranged anime game possible?

>>20835942
Play Ys: Origin for some nice aesthetically pleasing graphics and not balls to the wall animu bullshit

>>20835621
Are you the fellah I usually discuss shit with in thread? If so, you're right on the money again - how they integrate that system is going to be crucial to my enjoyment of the narrative.

Genuinely just sitting down to read it (again), I'll update a first impression sometime later today. You've read it?

>>20835813
Happy to point people to good titles.

>>20835442
Figured out a better system.

Last two reviews:
>Retribution Engine by Akaso
>>20830031

>I Shall Seal The Heavens by Er Gen
>>20830041

>consumes your soul

Soooooo I got spoiled that Kelsier will appear in Stormlight.
Is this big? fucking google, man.
But then again, I already missed all the Warbreaker cameos and those characters didn't really do much.

>>20836037
Book?

>>20836092
looks like red knight

>>20836028
>Genuinely just sitting down to read it (again), I'll update a first impression sometime later today. You've read it?
Yeah, I'm one of TWI bros, caught up on all the 10 million words. I assume you're going to to do the audiobook instead of reading? I've heard only good opinions about Andrea's work, so I hope you'll have a good time listening to the first volume.

The first volume is an interesting beast to look at as a long-time TWI reader, almost a different story. It has all of TWI's best qualities in their nascent stages, strong focus on characters, distinct voices, raw emotions, tragedy and happiness, with classic fantasy storytelling put in a modern framework. All of that, but crude, lacking the refinement of an experienced author. But you'll likely notice the already present passion of the author that has only grown with time.

It's always hard for me to describe TWI here, as a fan it's hard to talk about it objectively. I don't want to give you either too big expectations or to excuse the story's early flaws, so I'll just hope you enjoy it for what it was at the time.

>>20835422
Carl is a Coast Guard tech, who worked on boats, not a Marine. This is the second post ITG that has called Carl a Marine.

>>20836134
Carl was in the coast guard and afterward was a marine tech, usually doing mechanic work on rich guys yachts. Marine technician.

>>20836053
Considering last we/I know of, Kelsier was stuck on Scadrial (due to being a Sliver) and was searching for a way out, that's a spoiler with a HARD maybe on it. Where did you even hear it?

>>20836145
Oh you mean marine as in hydro/aquatic, not Marine as in the military branch. My bad. Glad you found something you enjoyed.
>t. the anon who rec'd you Heaven's Laws and Soulship

>>20836148
Don't recommend soulship

>>20836148
You've got a romantic spirit, eh? Both have a focal point on the love story. Appreciate your contributions.

>>20836146
>Where did you even hear it?
I was googling something related to the Ghostbloods. Apparently, the guy is their leader?

>>20836053
>>20836146
>>20836227
I don't think it's confirmed he's the ghost blood leader, or that he will necessarily appear in stormlight. He is a worldhopper now though, so he could.

>>20836205
Not necessarily but it seems to happen that way. The former is the first I've read to actively use dual cultivation and not just have it as some mentioned background noise that other people do as a bad thing.

>>20836255
>He is a worldhopper now
No, he's trapped on Scadrial but the reason for the Ghostbloods's existence is him trying to discover a way out. The Heralds have a similar condition.

>>20836302
Source?

>>20836326
coppermind.net/wiki/Kelsier#Cosmere-wide_Activity

What's your rating system on goodread ?

>>20835432
Oh wow I wasn't sure whether you'd like it that much. Did you only read the first DCC book? I've heard a lot of people say they don't quite like it until book 3 (I personally enjoyed them all the way through because of Carl's character development throughout) because that's sort of when things really settle in. As somebody who's read a fair few LitRPGs, yeah I'll agree that so far nothing really stands up to DCC. Infinite Realm is something I'm reading currently and it's not BAD, it's coming close in terms of characterised protagonists, but it has two main protagonists and it's tricky to like both of them because they're such contrasting people.

got 80% of the way through Seveneves, got 50% of the way through House of Suns.. I think I'm done sci-fi bros. these books are slogs, the characters suck, and the ideas aren't interesting enough to justify reading them. any shorter, standalone sci-fi books with some good characters? something a bit more emotional and relatable?

>>20836513
DCC suffers from having somewhat boring second book, at least for its first half, 3/4 even. Then it gets great again. You're right for there not being many good litrpgs, besides Infinity Realm only The Wandering Inn comes close, but it's more of a TTRPG in a literary form than typical video-game story.

>>20836513
>be Ryun
>want to cultivate
>all day every day
>but people keep being people and bothering you

>>20835907
>cool twink elric
I never really imagined elric as a twink.
Is there something you're not telling us anon-ski

>>20836567
I'm only on the second book so far and while I agree Ryun is more interesting, I don't actually LIKE him all that much. Prior to the flashbacks in the second book I was more unsure but after it became clear him going off and murdering a city was due to a madness-induced misunderstanding on his part, it's hard to find him that agreeable considering he basically doubled down on that. I enjoy his weird sense of honour and all, and in the present he's likeable enough, but I find it hard to root for him, so to speak. I understand why people don't like Zach, he's a very straightforward lawful good guy, but he's understandable, and it's clear he's tempered his idea of what law and order should really be in the new world he lives in, because he's pretty along with the idea of "Okay, I just need to be strong enough to make sure nothing like Ryun happens again".

>>20836576
He's very much (unintentionally?) written as an autist who doesn't fit in well around others and can't figure out how to interact with people on a social level. He learns a lot, sure, but that's how he is throughout the entire series.

>>20835907
I think the scifi written by most scifi authors is steeped in the philosophy of the Faustian man. Everything must be explained, accounted for, and understood. Gene Wolfe, Jack Vance, and those types of authors wrote scifi (when they did) with a completely different goal in mind. The act of traveling the stars was a wonder in of itself, and the more that was left to wonder and mystery instead of being understood and explained, the better.

>>20836555
The Cyberiad

>>20836591
Like, I get his whole monstrous past is basically derived from a REALLY shitty situation and him going nuts due to grief and a perk going haywire, and I can kinda respect that he doesn't even care about redemption or anything in a way, and he at least regrets the casualties caused by the power vacuums he created and such, but the simple detail that after the first slaughter, Zach gave him the biggest olive branch and he just told him to fuck off really doesn't stick well.

>>20835469
people don't care about that shit if the book is only 10% "comfy" and 90% cringy sadistic edgelordism
I swear, some of the shit that gets recommended here makes the Warhammer 40K books I read during my teenage fedora-tipping phase look like lighthearted romance novels for women

>>20835405
I remember the book starting off with the titular red knight tilting at a drake.

>>20836604
>Zach gave him the biggest olive branch and he just told him to fuck off
It wasn't that simple because that olive branch had the corrupt overbearing government attached to it, which Ryun clearly wanted zero part of. Even Zach lamented the (lack of) effort he put into trying to help/save Ryun at that time.

>>20835776
Did you read his Star Force books? They get off to a rocky start. You can tell the early ones were from early in his career. But if you like how he plays his cast of side characters where everyone on the same side is not necessarily on the same page, you might enjoy it. Particularly after Marvin and Hoon are introduced.

>>20836615
Oh for sure both were pretty ineffective there, and the government is inept at best (I haven't seen too much to indicate the WHOLE THING is corrupt yet, moreso that isolated areas are prone to corruption due to an inability to keep them in check), but it's a matter of thousands of lives against one at that point. Ryun's revenge rampage was understandable, arguably even justifiable, even if it had collateral to innocents, but his attack on New Dallas was more or less out of the blue. He gave them a warning, sure, but why would they take it seriously, they don't know who he is, and they can't possibly believe a single guy could solo a city.

>>20836625
I agree with you on nearly everything. He should have been taken more seriously given his strength but of course inept government.
Have you read any of the author's other books?

>>20836608
It's far more balanced than 10/90. Also don't know what you think is so edgelord about it? Only thing I can think of that might be edgy is the Captains view on God in a Christian Empire, but there's reasons for that are far more than just simple contrarianism.

>>20836630
No, I haven't, it seems like he's... Got a lot actually. I don't actually love his writing style all that much. He's got solid characterisation and the system stuff is well put-together (though he has a bit of a tendency to just flood the page count with status screens) but he has a weird tendency to make redundant phrases (like "At the back, such and such was at the back" or similar awkwardly made sentences) and the action isn't super well-written.
Any particular ones you'd recommend?

>>20836630
Not him, but I read Tower of Power and was underwhelmed. Not as good as this series. There was nothing objectionable that I remember, just didn't set the hook.

>>20836053
holy shit I'm glad I dropped it

>>20836639
Yeah his writing is definitely amateurish at times. I'd say Infinite Realm is his highest-quality title but I respect his work ethic.
I'm not sure if I'd recommend any directly but I can discuss what I have read. The first I picked up (and try to follow) was his Universe on Fire series
>humans develop space travel only to be quarantined to their planet by aliens
>accidentally into an alternate dimension where they meet fantastical species (not!elves and not!orcs), and subsequently learn how to use magic
>through unique usage of magitech, humans gain the power to make the aliens fuck off with their quarantine and shenanigans ensue
As far as self-pub I've read, it's unique in that you can read about mecha fighting in space and all that super-detailed mecha/spaceship detail/battling.
Tower of Power which is basically litrpg climb the tower to become more powerful so you can be recruited into a TEAM to help fight off space superfags. I'd say the unique part of this story was the MC having plant-based powers.
I know he has some big 12(?) book space opera too, and that space opera, the two series I mentioned above, and one or two others is part of some 'Chaos and Order' meta. He has a meta dude pop up occasionally, same meta dude who set up the Tower of Power itself. You don't /have/ to read them all or anything to get it and from what I understand, it still has a ways to go before completion. Which may be longer now that the unrelated IR is his golden goose.
>>20836652
Right. I did a lot of skimming in that series.

>>20836671
Right. Seems like a guy with a lot of ambition and not QUITE enough skill to realise it fully. Back on IR, though, I do appreciate the moments that make clear the differences and similarities between Zach and Ryun, they feel quite well-handled. Zach's first action in the Infinite Realm is saving some strangers because they're there and in danger, Ryun's first action is saving some strangers because their plight resonates with his past and he barely even knows why he did it. The people Zach saved don't really matter much afterwards, they're just people to save to him, whereas the people Ryun saved become his closest allies. It's a nice bit of character contrast, though how intentional it is I don't know. There's also Zach wanting to follow a build guide and realising maybe only using them as a reference is the best way forward, and Ryun wanting to do everything alone and being told "Look at this rate you're gonna hit a wall without a teacher".

>>20836668
Why would that revelation, of all things, make you glad you dropped it?

>>20835357
Priest of Crowns, War for the Rose Throne #4 - Peter McLean (2022)

A fun, fast-paced, action-filled conclusion to the series. Considering how lacking the series was in subtlety or complexity for the most part, I still underestimated how literal the series title was. It's driven home that this series is a memoir, which may explain the various swerves over the course of the series, but I think that's more of an excuse for the author not being quite sure what to do with the narrative or characterization. In that regard, I think this may have been the series where I most disregarded how nonsensical it was for just how much fun it was. It helped that the grimdarkness was the sort that I mostly laughed at, which I don't know if that was intended, because of how ridiculous it could be. That his authorial voice remains wonderful also was quite the boon.

Most of the problems I had with the previous books weren't present here, or maybe I just didn't notice them as much. That being said, this was easily the least fulfilling, most streamlined, but also the most engaging and exciting book in the series. There were times that I forgot that I was reading a book. In terms of being content for a good time, it excels. For anything else, not so much. If I were trying to rate these on anything other than my subjective personal enjoyment then assessing it would be far more difficult and likely require multiple ratings, which I don't think I'd ever do. That's unfair in a way to books that I think are better in other ways than sheer enjoyment and thus are on overall superior work, but oh well.

I think this series went about as well it could've given its various limitations and what it was going for. The irony is that if McLean writes another series after this one, his improvement as an author may lead to less fun and enjoyable works. I hope he doesn't try to go for something more serious. It may be rude, but I also don't really intend to read his prior works. I think this hits rather on target for a certain kind of enjoyment and I have concern that his other works don't have the same aim. I haven't written really anything about the content of the book because this is the fourth and final in the series. If you were reading to determine whether to read this final book, then yes, you should. If it's whether to read the series at all, well, you're a reason why I've written this as I have.

Rating: 4/5

>>20836053
>after the second apocalypse Kellhus becomes a world hopper and appears in storm light to fight with Kal
Brando Sando, I kneel

>>20836720
What would bakkerfags do if Sanderson and bakker were secretly collaborating and the reason bakker is delaying his book is for Sanderson to set up kellus's entry into the cosmere

>>20836688
>not QUITE enough skill to realise it fully
That.
One odd thing I noticed, unrelated to his writing skills, is that he went through the effort of buying/creating his own website and doesn't even keep it updated. As a self-pub author, shouldn't that be one of your first priorities?
Yeh I saw your post before. Outside of Ryun/Zach, have any other characters made it to your memory?
>Zach wants to minmax
>Ryun wants to have the most fun discovering shit for himself
kek didn't think of it that way
As someone caught up to around the current point, I don't even read screens anymore. It's just 5+ pages of going to the next page on my e-reader.

>that one samefag anon shitting himself at the observation of me and this other anon discussing books

>>20835762
I'm just under halfway through Home World now and have really been enjoying the series. I started it out of curiosity after seeing that Goodreads review and figured I would just read the first to get some context. For a few years I had been disregarding the series when it popped into my recommendations, I judged the books by their covers and decided it must be among the most generic self published dreck. Instead it's classic hard hitting pulp that feels like it could have been written by Mickey Spillane if he took a different path.

>>20836786
>Outside of Ryun/Zach, have any other characters made it to your memory?
None of their own personal side-characters or any other PoV has really stuck quite that much apart from maybe Quell (I'm not far enough through book 2 but she's absolutely the Night Horror I'm guessing), though I did enjoy Zenker's interludes because I enjoy how much he's just living his best life and going "FUCK YEAH EXPLORATION". Eerv is pretty okay too, though doesn't have a lot going for him besides just being really pragmatic.

>>20836728
If Kellhus joined the cosmere he would dominate all that lives in that world, he would sissify all Sanderson male characters and he would turn all the females into his sex slaves, he would rule with an iron fist until they are spent to the core, after that he would decimate the entire world and then world hop to another place to sissify hopefully earth.

>>20836717
not only do you have to read SA but you have to read all of his other shite
man's a genius

What does lit think of the three-body problem? My friend recommended it and we are having a "bookclub" with another friend. It's pretty good I think. Apparently the later books are better. It's very popular in China where it is from. The main focus isn't the cultural revolution, but it surprised me how critical it was of the cultural revolution it seemed. But I guess times have changed and I'm just prejudice. I don't know much about it anyway

>>20836805
You guessed right and I shouldn't say more. Zenker is a cool dude. Anrosh grew on me even though she's just mom who cares about her daughter but it was amusing later on when she constantly complains about how she got voluntold to run the sect. She can't not be upset at Ryun for helping her cultivate and become stronger than she ever would have but boy does running the sect frustrate her kek

>>20836717
Because the shared universe thing is cringe marvel shit

>>20836988
I don't dislike Anrosh, she just doesn't feel like she's much of a character so much as she is 'part of Ryun's characterisation'. She exists so that Ryun can stop being a dissociating nutcase. None of Zach's friends apart from Quell have been too interesting, though I think that's sort of the point is that Zach realises they're all pretty normal (except maybe Nyathulla I don't know what they're doing with her) and he's just not. Griss felt like he got less and less interesting as he got more fleshed-out, somehow. None of the other interlude/side story characters have been too entertaining, though I just read Dracael's and I enjoy how she's so powerful she needs to drug herself to enjoy some dreams.

>>20837001
Why do you see it as cringe and not just one longer more expanded story?
I mean that's what they are evolving to be, the story of the cosmere and the shards.

Comparing it to marvel is dumb, they never have an end in sight, like webnovels.

>>20837010
I can't really discuss this further with you until you get caught up.
The one-off 'elite PoV's, like with Dracael and Zenker, were cool, learning how the power systems work and their differences, and what it takes to make it there and its consequences.

>>20837022
Fair enough. I'm not too burnt up about the non-protagonists not being that great, as long as the most major characters are interesting I'm fine.

>>20836886
Kellhus died like a bitch to the No-God

>>20837026
It does develop the world well but I feel the plot moves at an ultimate snail's pace. There are hints toward an overencompassing plot and underlying conspiracies but they're dropped like breadcrumbs.

>>20837020
It's cringe. It's no use arguing with a sandifag

>>20837020
>Why do you see it as cringe
He's a crossboarding newfag who arrived here sometime after 2016.

>>20836886
He would dominate Roshan, but I think he would get fucked up on the mistborn planet. It's too modern, too many people who could kill him too easily.

>>20836886
what the fuck is this shit
this is what goes on in the heads of bakkerfags?

>>20837048
You will never be an oldfag sanditranny

>>20836925
i loved it on first read, a couple of years ago. i'm now about to listen to it in audiobook format.
my thoughts
>like you said, i was also surprised at how critical it was of the cultural revolution.
>not an anti-chinafag but i expected chinese content to be more censored in regards to that topic
>the author was truly imaginative and had some great ideas
>there were a few amateurish moments, in prose, characterization and dialogue, where the books sounded like typical asian drama bullshit but overall it was offset by how refreshing and charming it all was
>it really hit all the right notes with me, i expected something different from the usual western sci-fi fare i was accustomed to and that's what i got
>the author's chinese perspective and mindset really shines through which makes for a refreshing read
>it drags in a few places but manages to find its stride again
>the concepts being tackled were very interesting and novel

overall, i felt the books read like a better alastair reynolds imo. likeable characters, large concepts, neat plot, not too bland and scientific, not space fantasy

>>20837020
It's just a tactic to sell more books.

>>20837164
What, writing more?
There's like, around 14 cosmere books right?
Malazan has over 20
Realm of the Elderlings has over 20

>>20837198
Just fanservice to sell more books.

>>20837198
no
this is mostly what is to come

>>20837001
are shared universes a capeshit creation?

>>20837228
No but capeshit commercialized it. Sandiboi is following suit. His books are basically capeshit anyway.

>>20835942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgRnUbsn0Lg

Guys, i 've been reading lit rpg for almost 13 years from the first books that were published on samizdat (old russian analogue of royal roads) and later they had became quite popular and even translated into english. So my statistics all over the years show that 95 % of litrpg shit, 4 % is readable but not great, 0.7% is good, 0.3% is very interesting read. Taкиe дeлa, кoтaны. So recommend me to read something at least good english. I hope i'll find some good read this way.

>>20837219
I didn't say how many were planned, I said there were only around 14 books. And currently I think that's about right

Careful posting too much guys! You might bring the IPschizos from last night out again.

>>20837409
Your post came off as saying that there were only going to be 14 cosmere books period.

>>20837402
You want a book or a webnovel? How familiar are you with Royalroad stuff? Did you read major stuff like Azarinth Healer, Salvos, Defiance of the Fall, Infinite Realm, The Wandering Inn, Blue Core, etc.? Do you read everything? You are vague as fuck

>>20837446
No it didnt

>>20837436
>Zoomers knowing anything about shame.

what is peak cyberpunk?

>>20837436
>Careful posting too much guys! You might bring the IPschizos from last night out again.
They may seethe and scream, I've been posting around 5-10 times on average per thread

>>20837511
They pretty much had it down with cops in cool armor who kill at the behest of corporations and there's neon lights everywhere.
Also flying cars overhead.

>>20837487
>What, writing more?
>There's like, around 14 cosmere books right?
We've known since the 2000s that the Cosmere was going to be at least ~30 books. Him writing more should come as no surprise.

>>20837402
Tell us the good stuff.

>>20837219
>Death by Pizza
>Urban fantasy about necromancer delivery man/person

For me it's Fantasy that evokes shit like pic related.

>>20837402
Those are some completely terrible statistics if they're of what you chose to read rather than of what exists.

>>20837579
There's nothing wrong with inherently silly premises.

>>20837632
and what exactly is pic related? and what fantasy works evoke it in your opinion?
also how old are you

>>20837650
>and what exactly is pic related?
A picture.
>and what fantasy works evoke it in your opinion?
The short story The Last Scream of Carnage by Phil Emery.
>also how old are you
Nice try, rabbi.

>>20837219
>Planned books for 2077+

Kek

>>20837671
>A picture.
non-answer
i googled your title and apparently it's sword and sorcery? are these images supposed to be sword and sorcery? is that story the only examp of something that "evokes shit" like your pic related?

>>20837650
>>20837705
You can just leave if all you plan to do is shit up the thread and be an unhelpful cunt.

>>20837711
are you sure i'm being the unhelpful one, asking for examples of what the fuck you're talking about?
this isn't an artwork thread, it's a /lit/ thread, if you can't articulate what exactly you're looking for, don't get mad at me over it, get mad at yourself.

I just finished the second book of Dan Simmons' Hyperion Cantos

The first one blew me away, so I broke my habit of never reading follow up books in a series, because they are usually trash.
Well, it was still good. Not as good as the first on my opinion, but still easy to get hooked on. I really start to dislike the direction this is taking and I will not continue with the third. It starts to feel like the stakes are getting to high for a comfy sci-fi story and the plot an subplots just start to go wild. Some subplots seem to trail off forever, while other get spontaneously resolved. All the while the time travel shenanigans seem to be out of control and sometimes it just feels like the author is like "I ain't gotta explain shit".

Still I really recommend it as comfy sci-fi, but I do not think I can stomach going on.

>>20837768
stopping there is definitely a good call. you won't believe the retarded self indulgent crap and retcons that happen in the latter two books.
if you're someone who usually doesn't read sequels, i'm surprised you even enjoyed the second one which was such a departure from the first one in terms of style and arguably quality. don't get me wrong, i thought it was a good followup myself but i'm not too picky about reading sequels because not knowing how a story ends gets under my skin a lot.

>>20837711
You can just go neck yourself if you feel this is show and tell. Go back to kindergarten.

What's with Philip k dick and the kibbutz?

How can I trust any of you to know a good book when half of you only read Chinese web novels?

>>20837768
>Still I really recommend it as comfy sci-fi, but I do not think I can stomach going on.
Counter-recommendation for Hyperion, it's dumb as fuck book for midwits. Don't take opinions of people who claim it's a good book seriosuly, they are either trolling or retards

>>20837792
Thanks for letting me know that I probably made the right call here.
You are absolutely correct that the second book was already diverging significantly from the first. While the first was a relatively straightforward sci-fi adventure, the second one was just constant twists and turns with increasingly ridiculous asspulls. I mostly started the second book, not because of the open ending of the first, but because I actually liked the world and comfy reduced scope of it all. Then the second book threw most of it out of the fucking window by just trying to one up everything. Nope, that is exactly the reason why I usually don't read more and I will leave it at that. Still it was nice that at least it did not end of a fucking cliffhanger.

>>20837632
Can you recommend anything? It’s a really cool picture

>>20837933
The Last Scream of Carnage by Phil Emery. It's in Return of the Sword: An Anthology of Heroic Adventure. If I could copy and paste text from Kindle Cloud Reader I'd post it myself.

>>20837956
Fuck it. I'll just screenshot every page and post it.

Opinions on poal Anderson?
I have only read the broken sword

>>20837933
>>20837956
>>20837964
Hopefully this are in order.

>>20838020
*these

>>20838029

I watched a video of Sanderson explaining how he writes characters smarter than him. Holy shit, he does not even know what intelligence is. No wonder most fiction books are so bad. AI written stories can't come soon enough. STEM chads are too busy being productive and artstards can't write anything worth reading.

>>20838020
>>20838029
>>20838037
Don't spam the thread with ths shit.

>>20838037

>>20836177
FANG YUAN-SAMA... I KNEEL...

>>20838042
>stem vs art
jews separated these things

>>20838042
STEM """chads""" are anything but productive and original
t. STEM """chad"""

>>20838047

>>20838042
>STEM chads are too busy being productive
IT/STEM -> Writing pipeline of writers is producing mostly Litrpgs these days

>>20838055

Good god, that fucking retard is actually going to spam images of a story we can get from libgen.

>>20838063

>>20838064
Why are you triggered over a story being posted on /lit/, you faggot?

>>20838076

>>20838076
Because you could post this as an imgur album, or just not post an entire fucking story page by page to flood the thread.

>>20838076
You're going to post a 330 page novel as a... /lit/ storytime? Get some perspective, man.

>>20838082

>>20838076
Because you are spamming, faggot.

>>20838083
>>20838084
>10 pictures
>OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fuck off, trannies.

>>20838069
>>20838076
this jumps from page 29 to page 31

>it would be a same if all this spam disappeared

>>20838029
>illustrated by m.d. jackson
what illustrations?

>>20838042
you are far dumber than sanderson if you think your only option is to wait for AI generated fantasy novels instead of just reading something good

>>20838112
>instead of just reading something good
Like what? That's the problem. I spend more time searching for good books than reading them.

What are some evilmaxxing protag books?

>>20838199
Reverend Insanity, Prince of Thorns trilogy, can't name more of the top of my head. Most of xianxias have protagonists that count as evil by western values desu, there is a meme about rape being a viable battle tactic for a reason

Just started Madouc. I don't want this series to end, Vancebros.

>>20838230
Reverend Insanity is likely the only evilmaxxing chink protag out there that I am aware of. The rest are either low-effort copies or just your average greedy chinaman in a fish market, not truly evilmaxxing. I already read my fair share of xianxias, I can't bear reading more of this garbage unless you got a specific recommendation. I don't know where "Rape is a battle-tactic" come from but I haven't seen a single rape in chink novels, likely due to censorship now that I think about it.

I'll pick up prince of thorns, seems interesting.

>>20838307
i think the rape one appears in martial god asura at least several times (but mga is also one of the worst examples of fiction ever conceived by man, so i wouldn't recommend reading it)

>>20838199
The old testament specifically the Pentateuch.

>>20838372
>inb4 20+ reply sub-thread in response to this post

>>20838372
How does this image make you feel?

>>20838396
feels like /pol/

>>20838132
>Like what?
Bakker. No AI will ever be producing something like Bakker. Even if it could it wouldn't be allowed.

>>20837632
>bland edgy neo-slenderman zoomer horror starter pack image with a twitter filename
I have just the kind of literature for you

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1660511553719199.webm

>>20838690
where did you get this footage of /sffg/ from

>>20838690
Poor bakker autismo poster

>>20836177
it's about insects?

>>20838746
Yes

Any books that do Dark Elves in a remarkable/interesting way?

>>20838934
Malus Darkblade series is very fun. Dan Abnett is really good.

>>20838995
>shithammer

Do you lads feel like the place you're living in affects your reading? I moved to my old grandparent's house at the very edge of town and have been reading something like 2 books each week.

>>20838934
>>20838995
Not sure about interesting or remarkable though cause it’s the only dark elf stuff I’ve read

Fuck Bakker for making the rest of fantasy genre look like dogshit by comparison. I had so many books planned to read, but its impossible now.

>>20839026
Wolfe
Bujold
Peake
LeGuin
Howard
Ashton Smith
Wagner
REH

Maube you're not reading right my man.

>>20839035
>Wolfe
Read, unimpressed
>Bujold
Lmao woman
>Peake
Read, its okay
>LeGuin
Lmao woman
>Howard
No interest
>Ashton Smith
Read, its short boomer creepypastas
>Wagner
Isn't it plays or symphonies or some shit?
>REH
Whomst've?

>>20838199
Dune, lol

>>20838261
Vance's catalogue is large enough to quench any man's thirst. Go for Poul Anderson too, he's probably the most underrated writer in SF and fantasy.

>>20839053
>Doesn't know who Robert E. Howard is
pretty much exactly what I expected of a Bakkerfag

>>20839053
Imagine not knowing who /sffg/ Wagner is.

I wish there's a version of picrel with all the pronouns corrected. The use of "she" for everyone, including male and non-human characters, made me drop the book 10% of the way in.

>>20838934
Die Legenden der Albae by Markus Heitz. I don’t know the English title. Not even sure if it’s translated

>>20838544
I'm sorry not all of us want to read pozzed or chink shit.

I just realized that Leto's being mean to Moneo the whole time because he's planning on hooking up Moneo and Hwi yet there's still resentment. A good chunk of God Enperor if Dune is an elaborate suicide note.

>>20838544
Why are trannies like this?

>163 WPM
Oof.
>Suppress sub-vocalization
This sounds like hooey. How the fuck do you enjoy reading without saying the word in your head and attempting some sort of inflection during a moment of emotion or action in the book?

>>20839035
>doesn't know Howard
What the fuck has happened to this thread?

>>20839081
I'm a fantasy man, but Vance is good enough that I will likely read his science-fiction. I love Anderson - I just got a King of Ys omnibus so I'm planning on giving that a bash soon as it seems similar in concept to Lyonesse.

>>20839026
Jack Vance baby, everything he wrote was gold

>>20839026
Bakker certainly mogs contemporary fantasy authors, but as other anons suggested there are so many classics for you to read that easily surpass him. However, if you're lukewarm on the likes of Peake and Wolfe, then there isn't really any hope for you.

>>20839685
Zoomers

Speaking oh Howard, should I just skip the Solomon Cain stories and go straight for Conan? How important are they?

>>20839763
Kane* And I'm not sure what you're asking. The Kane stories are their own thing.

>>20839763
They're totally separated. Read which ever you want.

Fantasy for a dark cynical nihilistic mood

>>20839823
>dark cynical nihilistic
may i suggest hard sci-fi as an alternative

>>20839707
Peake is exactly the same sort of inane fecal-obsessed drivel as Martin or Bakker, Wolfe is undeniably based though

>>20839763
Did you already buy the Conan the Cimmerian Barbarian omnibus that includes several Solomon Kane and Kull the Conqueror stories? They're all worth reading, but they're not really necessary to get into Conan, even though Kull technically takes place in the same "setting" as Hyboria but like 150,000 years earlier

>>20839825
Sure. Anything to feel this feel I'm feeling rn. Totally hopeless and lost at life. Gawking at the meaninglessness of it all.

>>20839827
You've never read Peake though, anon.

>>20836886
You really are one annoying fucking faggot, your posts are all the same, and you have posted the same shit in every single thread for years now. Do you act like this in other generals, other boards? Or do you reserve your idiotic homosexual shitposting just for us?

I doubt you’ve read Bakker at all; the repetitivity and brainlet nature of your spam makes me believe you lack the basic IQ to parse his prose, and the absence of references to any characters or world background outside of an extremely shallow grasp of Kellhus’ persona confirms this. Suffice it to say, kill yourself threadshitter, and janny please do the job you’re paid so well to do.

>>20839823
Gormenghast has elements of this. Can also be quite humorous at times, though.

>>20839833
Xeelee has a lot of that. Maybe try the short story Vacuum Diagrams and see if you like the setting. Read something like Ring afterward then go from there.
The Great Ship series has functionally immortal humans and you get casual xianxia-tier timeframes thrown around like decades or centuries traveling to/from x and doing whatever on the Ship while the constant stretching and expansion of space is ever-present.

This is great, undoubtedly better than The War of The Worlds, but the third "part" sucks. The buildup is incredible though, which is enough for me, especially because there's a lot more of it than there is climax.

>>20839956
Is this a reference to Leviathan Wakes?

>>20839956
I hate that I look at sci-fi written in the 50's and 60's and just toss it aside.
I can't get over the fact that the people writing it had no idea what computers would be like.
It's not their fault, obviously, but when I read their books I picture their giant room sized computers and ugly, ugly furniture from that era.

>>20835357
https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/your-book-review-god-em

Is there a SINGLE good fantasy """booktuber"""?

>>20840071
Of course not. Only narcissists spend time filming themselves

>>20840048
Honestly, same. Pre-50's sci-fi works, and sci-fi from the 70's onwards works, but that 20-year stretch of post-WW2 boomer decadence and cold war cringe is a dark age for me

>>20840071
Is Katie still doing nude art shoots?

>>20840071
Why would you ever?

>>20839003
Yeah. I have a tree in the woods that I call my reading tree. The east facing portion of the trunk has a concave shape to it. Its like the back of a rocking chair almost. When I sit up against it for an afternoon I get a lot of reading done.
But I have to wear pants and a long sleeve on account of the bugs. Other than that its quite cozy. I leave my phone and any distractions at home and just read and listen to birds chirp and the bee's buzz.
So yes I'd say location can absolutely affect your reading.

>>20839827
>Did you already buy the Conan the Cimmerian Barbarian omnibus that includes several Solomon Kane and Kull the Conqueror stories
I have a digital copy of everything he wrote for Weird Tales

>>20840090
Booktubers should be flayed and filleted
>>20840090
Especially this faggot

>>20840048
It's set in the time it was written so computers don't even come up.
>>20840007
Yes.

>>20840095
sauce?

>>20840171
kino. also jealous.

sci-fi books for this feel?
I am asking this unironically.
I need more like this.

>>20840270
>rehash of a rehash of a rehash of a
plenty of self-pub time perception litrpg garbage

>>20840280
name 10.
plz

>>20835357
Anyone can recommend weird poetry? I got accepted for a publication that specialises in it and I’d like to do more background research beyond CAS and Lovecraft.

>>20840071

>>20840322
Peake.

>>20839003
Definitely. The comfier the setting, the more I will read. I have a cabin I like to rent up in a mountain range a few hours out of town. When my girl and I holiday there, I'll read a novel a day basically.

>>20839003
I read while walking or in bed desu

Most supreme book tuber.

>>20840444
Does he call out WOT for being shit? There are so many WOT apologists it's insane.

>>20840375
Mike rules supreme
Brittany rage and scream
Rage so hard she blows steam
Can't compete even in a dream

>>20840446
No but I like the faces he makes.

>>20839003
Having a "spot to read" can definitely affect it.
My Grandma's cottage has no internet and shitty cell service so all I do there is read.
Plus I can set up a lawn chair next to the lake. Waves crashing, warm-cool breeze, planes going overhead. I bring a binoculars to look at them and other things in the water.
On the flip side, now that I'm home, I don't really want to do it since it's not as nice and I sure as hell can't read during the day when people are moving around and a TV is on.

>>20840180
Well as I said, you won't lose anything by reading the Solomon Kane and Kull stories, they're enjoyable and I recommend them, but you don't need to read any of them to understand or enjoy Conan.

You can only reply if your favorite author has a Fortnite skin

Has anyone tried visualizing any sff characters through DALL-E or Midjourney? Here is my best attempt on Severian as a noob tinkerer.

>>20840474
dall-e 2 universally spits out trash

>>20840474
Now I want to see nice cloak with bathysphere helmet fashion.

>read Wolfe
>highbrow sff is ruined for me because nothing can compare

>read Cradle
>lowbrow wish fulfillment sff is ruined for me because nothing can compare

Maybe I'll just start reading the epics or something. What should I go read first? Journey to the West, Mahabharata, or the Illiad?

>>20839843
How many years has he been doing this? I know he’s a no-life faggot that spams supreme, homosexual and other cringe shit.

>this high-school tier bickering between madouc and those other cunts
Why are women like this, Vancebros?

>>20840499
Start with Iliad, so you have the set up for Odyssey, which is a great companion piece for Journey to the West, which sets up reading Indian lit by being about getting some.

>>20835719
Fuschia is a sweetie

>>20839026
Bakker fans will surely enjoy The Voyage of the Space Beagle. If you're looking for a cold, rational, almost non-human protagonist that will do anything to protect the spaceship from aliens, then this is your guy.

>>20840474
Here is another Midjourney attempt with a closeup, I can't get it to go to the vision I have in my head so I mostly just settle for decent.

>>20840499
>sff
>highbrow
hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>20840499
The Iliad get a verse translation and read up on the Judgement of Paris before you start

>>20840521
I NEED midjourney...

>>20840527
They have a trial 25 tries, its fun to play around with even if you arent an artist

https://www.midjourney.com/home/

>>20840526
>required reading
Which thread do you think you're in, anon? We're not here to do homework.

>>20840532
It's just a paragraph on Wikipedia you can do it champ

>>20840532
Are you retarded?

>>20840570
>posts in /sffg/
As an expert by experience, I diagnose yes.

>>20840527
Reminds me of those hole caves on the mostly empty islands in WindWaker.

More Severian, shits addicting lmk if its spammy and annoying

>>20840612
he cute

>>20840612
Soon I can pretend by shitty stories have professional level fan art.

>>20840612
its spammy and annoying

>>20840625
Makes you think if there would be some sort of creatives crisis due to AI. At least for concept art there is clearly a market fit here.

This would be great if I was actually competent enough to edit out the cloak smudges and make the "claw" more pouch like. Maybe artists will do AI for conception and then refine through manual adjustment in PS.

A book like pic related please

The Pozzed machine rules supreme
but Bakkerchads have a plan
To defeat the pozz with a clever scheme
and make everyone a Bakker fan

>>20840633
I'll let the janny be the judge

>>20840633
Yeah, feels like retards are just spamming shit recently. I mean, it's fine if it's one or two but five?

You guys didn't warn me Bakker wasn't just a meme, he actually rules supreme.

>>20840526
Reading the Alexander Pope translation rn. Never realized the inciting incident was basically Achilles getting cucked. The foundational work of all western storytelling begins with the hero getting cucked.

>>20840647
Then talk about books, you stupid faggot.

>>20840658
Give the thread room to breathe. In the absence of spam, people will discuss their books. It may not be now. It may not be 5 minutes from now. It may not even be 5 hours from now. But in due time, when people have something worth posting, they will post. If the thread is moving too slow for your liking, then go do something else than lurk here to pass the time.

>curries your horse

>20840641
>20840651
>20840450
This is the one, Janny. The threadshitting miscreant himself! You know what to do, officer.

>>20840661
>If the thread is moving too slow for your liking, then go do something else than lurk here to pass the time.
I don't know how people can consider /sffg/ slow since /lit/ itself is a slow board, so it should be expected. Is it because they stay awake at night? Like, in 20 minutes I'm about to go to sleep since it's about to be 11pm.

>>20840676
You know you have to report it as spam if you want the janny to do anything, just making a post about it won't do anything.

>>20840655
Also lol at Thetis asking Zeus for help and Zeus going "Sure whatever, but you need to leave soon or Hera will think I'm trying to fuck you."

>>20840639
Just play Bloodborne.

Beowulf would be better if it were about a wolf man, yay or nay?

>>20840738
Why are you talking about an Epic heroic writing in the science fiction and fantasy general?

>>20838544
>this mad over a picture
lol

>>20840747
A modern retelling of Beowulf as a werewolf would probably fall under the "fantasy" genre desu.

>>20837632
That could almost be croaker and soulcatcher in their armors outside dejagore, aside from that giant white thing

here's the start of a piece i'm writing.
give me proper criticism please.

The Pacific Inter-Psychic Union building, next to the ezi-buy on Stout Street, was a charmingly shit example of early noughties NZ government-chic architecture. Somewhat hastily opened in 2004 by Helen Clarkes’ Labour government as a response to international pressure from the Aboriginee Department of Dreamtime Affairs, the Union was meant to unite the pacific psychic community under one umbrella. It hadn’t, of course, but it had led to a strange side-effect, namely of ending up as the place the actually potent took roost, or at least slept on the couches. Regardless, it was an important building within the topology of the southern hemisphere’s psychic community. After the National Party came into the Beehive in 2008, they began scything away at the various budgets for most ministerial departments, and Dr Wayne Mapp, the then Minister for Psychic Affairs, along with Heather Roy, the Associate Minister for Psychic Affairs, were forced to affect various budget cuts. This had the effect of further reducing the amount of actual psychics under the government’s employ, however, the employees in question were of the highest possible quality, crystallising as the firm peak of the power structure. They were called PI-PU, and all possible jokes have already been made. Uhm, anyway, this reduction in on-site psychics continued throughout the 2010’s, until the Union had only 5 actual psychics under its employ - plus approx 200-250 support staff (those with mental powers are such delicate tools, after all). All of ‘em having a yearly salary of well over 800,000 NZD, and treated to the highest possible standard of healthcare.
One of their phones is ringing, and it gets picked up eventually, no need to rush.
“It’s me” goes Mitchell
“Why aren’t you at the airport? We were supposed to be there at 9 and it’s well past 9.”

>>20840863
>give me proper criticism please.
No, fuck off, there's a writing general for this shit >>20831190

>>20840863
Anon, I think you got the wrong general.

>>20840863
Just because some sci-fi books throw words at you and don't explain them right away like their word for FTL information transmission, doesn't mean every other fucking word of your intro needs to be purple prose dogshit.

>>20840863
Why would we ever care to give you proper critique?

>>20840863
You come off like a massive tryhard. Kiwi here btw.

>>20839833
Dark Forest

>>20836028
Schizo bro here.
Would you read and review my work when i finish posting the first book of it ?
You don't have to review it on the site its on or anything, just genuienly interested in an unfiltered/honest opinion.

>>20840954
>>20840954
>Would you read and review my work when i finish posting the first book of it ?
no

>>20838199
>>20838307
Leylin from Warlock of the Magus World goes pretty fucking hard, though he's not philosophical like Fang Yuan.

>>20840954
Was pleasantly surprised by Retribution Engine so I'm fine with that.

>>20840959
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery but I'm afraid I'll have to cripple you for this transgression.

>>20840863
I don’t know what you expected from us.

>>20840800
Why would you ever want a modern retelling of an ageless classical story?

>>20840655
Less about being cucked, more about stealing his prize of honour (which is a huge deal) because he didn't have one

>>20841026
The more important question is do people even want a retelling. Why read that when You could just read the classic. Especially when they’re free online.

>>20841042
>Why read that when You could just read the classic. Especially when they’re free online.
That's kinda the point I'm making. There's really no need for a retelling of the classics.

>>20840800
Why a werewolf? Literally just because of his name?

>>20841052
Anon, he’s clear he hasn’t read the story.

Bakker rules in absolute supremacy
Despite the screams of his enemies
Bakkerchads rejoice in complete pride
Booty and riches for those on his side
When Bakker wins he rules in might
Destroying those who resist and fight

>>20841064
Imagine ban evading just to shitpost here because you have no life.

fuck off retard
spam your gay unfunny shit all you want, you will never be a zaudunyani

>>20841069
I did notice his post were gone, so the guy legit has no life. And does this shit all day and night? Christ.

>>20840736
Does that have a novelization?

>>20841098
Not him, but it does have a graphic novel but that's about it. I don't think games have any novelization anymore.

>>20841098
Yes.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit

>>20841111
>Analysts
Not reading your schizo writing.

>>20841107
Thanks. I’ll check it out.

>>20841115
>Thanks. I’ll check it out.
Don't expect much out of it, again, it's just a graphic novel

They say if you post "graphic novel" thrice in the thread, Alan Moore appears and permabans you.

>>20841121
Just want to read something fun.

>>20841094
>>20841069
my headcanon about the bakkerspammer it’s a bot created by bakker’s salty former publishers, overlook press, out of spite in order to tarnish the author’s image in one of the only place he’s still discussed on the internet. this also explains why the “anon” who makes these shitposts never interacts with other posters in the thread, and its sense of “humor” and rhyme are too retarded for even a low IQ human
plausible, no? more plausible than one of my other headcanon theories Min-Uroikas was just one of many thousands of other ships like it creates by the progenitors and basically every habitable world in the Eärverse has been colonized by these abominable freaks

>>20841144
>my headcanon about the bakkerspammer
Is that he has no life and literally waste his days on here.

>>20841144
Anon, he’s a faggot who spams. He does this shit in other threads.

>>20841115
I suppose you're just going to materialize who or what Ebrietas was out of thin air then.
Just read it like someone telling you what happened because that's how the rest of us found out everything in the game. We waited for VaatiVidya to make videos about it.
Don't fucking pretend that you were smart enough to figure out what hearing a crying ghost meant when you walked into the dining hall and looked at certain parts of the table. Because you're a liar.

The Bakkerspammer is a NEET who has the /lit/ catalogue refreshing every 30 minutes. If there is any thread related to fantasy, he will start his antics. He ramps it up elsewhere if he goes unnoticed here for enough time. It's a real fine line between ignoring him, and giving him just enough rope so that he's banned here. Just let him cop his bans here - we suffer for the good of the whole board.

>>20835860
A bit mixed so far tbqh.
The tone is really good and just the right mix of bitter and playful. The action is good. The characters are good. I like the author's taste. There's probably a better way of saying it, but I like what the author is trying to write.
But the pacing is just whacky. Sometimes it feels like the author has forgotten what he just said, and repeats the same few paragraphs two or even three times. The tenses are all over the shop, the wrote it in first person present tense from the perspective of the protagonist writing a journal of things that happened in the past being retold in present tense. It can be extremely convoluted with a constant mixture of past and present tense.

I think I'd prefer it if it was written in a Hammer's Slammers format. Since that seems like the sort of pacing the author wanted.

Good short books with fast pacing and efficient use of word count? So fucking tired of these 600 plus pagers that drawl put every detail and use descriptions that I'm going to forget by the next page.

>>20841205
Lord of the Rings

>>20841205
Cradle

>>20841186
500 million years of evolution to create this… the apex predator of /lit/ shitposters. Nature is truly a marvelous and brutal creatrix.

Fantasy prose Olympiad:
>bronze medal
Vance
>silver medal
Wolfe
>gold medal
Peake
I have spoken.

New thread
>>20841537

>>20841533
I rate the prose of an author by how many times I need to consult a dictionary per chapter.

>>20840971
Thanks, should all be up after 2 weeks

>>20841111
I wish there were more in-depth lore analyses of RPGs like this. The Salt and Sanctuary one is very good too and I always recommend it.