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20828292 No.20828292 [Reply] [Original]

If "happiness" is the goal of humanity, then, theoretically, why not live in a simulation and take chemicals that make you happy? Why not live in the Matrix?

>> No.20828303

>>20828292
Happiness is not the goal of humanity, it's just a spook. The goal of humanity is to know the Form of the Good, which means learning mathematics.

>> No.20828304

Because I'm white, I value things higher than mere happiness, like honor and truth

>> No.20828329

>>20828304
And how does striving for or obtaining honor and truth make you feel, anon?

>> No.20828342
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>>20828329
White

>> No.20828348

>>20828329
nta, but I enter a state of hêsychia.
In case u were unaware its not merely (or necessarily) silence,but an interior silence characterized by a tranquil acquiescence
in the will of God, producing a “profound calm and great peace within”

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>>20828292
>the goal of humanity

>> No.20828368

>>20828348
> in the will of god
lol
lmao even

>> No.20828369

Exactly. Why not? I legitimately can't reason a motive on why anyone should think living in a simulated utopia would be bad.

>B-B-B-BUT IT LIKE.. WOULDN'T BE REEEAL, BRO
So what? You wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

>> No.20828372

the goal is to realize Mainländer

>> No.20828390

>>20828369
Any soul trapped in illusion will always be centerless, and mere "happiness" is always an illusion, since the center of being is not happiness but a higher form of bliss that is the obverse of truth. You are presupposing a materialist ontology in which "happiness" is just a state that a biological computer can be in, therefore it doesn't matter what knowledge such a being has so long as the happiness continues. But happiness is not a state of a computer. Consciousness is fundamental, mind is being and being is mind, and ontologically speaking mind can only ever be at rest when it is unified with itself, which means being free from illusion.

The idea of a universe full of deluded beings in pleasure comas is internally incoherent. It presupposes all kinds of nonsensical ideas about matter preceding mind but differentiating into mind for no reason.

>> No.20828395

>>20828292
Who says chemicals make you happy?

>> No.20828396

>>20828292
The humanity has no goals since it has no existence. The humans have goals and that is to discover our potentialities through the harmonization of our three centers: emotional, intellectual and instinctual. This process necessarly involves pain and suffering. They are the feelings that make self reflection and metacognition emerge, since if we would be happy all the time there were no reason to question our existence. If you want to discover the meaning behind the whole of reality (cosmic mind) it is to discover itself through us.

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>>20828292
Happiness isn’t the goal of life. Evolution doesn’t work like that. We are designed to survive and reproduce, nothing more. Suffering is necessary to have a naturally and healthy life. People are depressed because they don’t suffer enough, they don’t struggle. If you are a man, then suffering is not even an issue to you. The only thing that matters is your conquest of the world and yourself.

>> No.20828407

>>20828368
Heathen begone!

>> No.20828418

>>20828303
:D

>> No.20828421

>>20828292
Happiness isn't the goal of humanity, only of retarded angloids. The whole pursuit of happiness has created more suffering than anything. If people accepted the universe for what it is, a purposeless meatgrind people would be way more content with their lives, instead of this nonsense happiness rat race.

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>>20828292
I don't want to. Why? Just a whim.
I'm speaking from outside the pleasure box of course. If you knock me out and force me into the box, I obviously couldn't even imagine breaking out.

>> No.20828433

>>20828390
>mind can only ever be at rest when it is unified with itself, which means being free from illusion
Alright, but define "rest".

>> No.20828485

Good question.