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20779566 No.20779566 [Reply] [Original]

Does one need "demons" to be a great writer?

>> No.20779573
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>>20779566
If you haven't been possessed by a demon yet then it's over
You will not make it as a writer

>> No.20779574

What are you even talking about? Just write things down, read them, store them for a while and rewrite them.

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>>20779566
I write because the voices in my head and the urge to tell stories would make me go insane if I don't produce stories.
Recently, that urge disappeared, so I stopped writing. I want it back.

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>>20779566
Q is a normie midwit hiding under a sardonic cloak

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>>20779574

>> No.20779728

>>20779630
>not a single book turned sideways
based pseud

>> No.20779907

>>20779566
In that a diamo/demos translates as 'soul (of the people)' and staight-up 'people', and in that a resonant author will resonate because they tap into the feelings and needs of the people at the time, then yes.

>> No.20779929

>>20779566
No, you need a daemon.

>> No.20779940
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>>20779566
Most likely, just look up private lives of your favorite fiction writers, vast majority of them were fucked up in some way: recluses, weirdos, schizos, assholes, addicts, simps/cucks etc. Mentally and socially well-adjusted people simply won't dedicate themselves to solitary purusit like writing.

>> No.20780107

No. The whole avante-grade weirdo schizo writer is overdone at this point. The best story writers in any arena, not just novels and non-fiction, are basically normal, probably somewhat artsy maybe a little hipster people.

>> No.20780108

>>20779566
Pic unrelated

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>>20780107
I agree. A writer ought be one of the people with no special distinctions. He ought be a working man and never allow himself to be artificially elevated, uncle tom'd and cut-off from his people by the machinations of the bourgeoisie.

>> No.20780395

>>20779566
I don't know but my "demon" is OCD and it doesn't affect benefit me as a writer in the slightest.

>> No.20780408

>>20780144
>any hint of competence should be shut down so it doesn't fuel my resentment
What a surprising and fresh sentiment from a commie.

>> No.20780688

>>20780144
What do you mean by “artificially elevated”?

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Saint George, these demons in me, kill, kill, kill

>> No.20780892

>>20780688
To take one slave and set them apart from the others, "uncle tom'd", so that the other slaves think they're different and special and consider the learned persons learning as being unattainable or the person as a celebrity or things like this.

>>20780408
Quite the opposite. If we take six people and find the brightest one, then take him out of the group and put him on a pedestal, all this does is mush down on the other five.

I admit, it's complicated for someone who's used to being on their knees and thinks the King 'desires' slavish praise instead of that he would obviously prefer his subjects to rise to meet his own standards.

>> No.20780902

>>20780408
>>any hint of competence should be shut down so it doesn't fuel my resentment
Jorgen Bee Petrsen strikes again.

>> No.20780903

John Gardner says it certainly helps. It's obvious really. Trauma does things to us. Do you want to read the world through the same lens the newscaster takes to their autocue? or your father to the instructions from Ikea? The point is to take the universe on at an acute angle, to examine it from another dimension through the use of a new reality. This is really the beauty of language, that it is the scaffolding of created universes. The deranged eye, so far from every day lives, is naturally attractive to a reader as they seek a novel way to look.

That said, the ineffably good are so rare as to be as unique as a real demon, and so their stories should be just as interesting. But how many saints are there, really? There is an abundance of monsters with strange eyes to choose from.

>> No.20780907

Not really.
Some great writers had demons, but most people with demons aren't great writers. Unless you're a sissy and consider every possible bad thing "carrying a demon". In which case everyone does and the point is moot.

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Okay. Let's expose our greatness weakness and other anons will tell you what you are better suited to write.

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>>20780913
this might get too dark too fast
I like at least 3 vtubers and I watch their streams even though I don't understand japanese.

>> No.20781040

>>20780144
oh shut the fuck up, retard.

>> No.20781103

>>20781040
keep sucking sterile banker semen whilst enjoying wearing your frilly panties there, slave.

>> No.20781156

>>20780107
It's not about avant-garde. It's about tapping into source of human condition's suffering (in the case of demons) which is the clay the artist uses to bring to life a compelling narrative using their skill and understanding. Vanilla on average will more than likely be able to get across a palatable experience, but it will seldom strike genius because there isn't enough depth in normal.

>> No.20782322

Semen demons

>> No.20782349

>>20780913
I watch videos of girls pissing on each other almost everyday

>> No.20782468

>>20782349
I suppose it never dawned on you that donating a toilet to eastern europe might prevent this.

>> No.20782628

>>20779566
i want to fight him. i think i could overpower him

>> No.20782956

>>20779566
Yes

>> No.20782967

>>20780913
I think I might have killed someone but it was an accident.

>> No.20782982

>>20779566
what routine he had at gym

>> No.20782992

>>20780913
I tried to kill people with an axe, twice already. This place is fucking hell, not even joking.

>> No.20783183

>>20780913
I watched my lover commit suicide and I have a crippling opioid addiction
>>20782992
You should write some sort of meta modernist crime and punishment where the protagonist goes insane and tries to kill people with an axe, not because they think they are Napoleon - but because they weren’t capable of understanding Dostoyevsky

>> No.20783202

>>20783183
I honestly don't feel like writing about it. It is fucking annoying, especially considering that I might have to kill someone. It seems that some people are so fucked that they don't give a shit if they are going to die or not.

>> No.20783240

>>20783202
But again, what the fuck am I supposed to do? The police is virtually fucking useless. This is fucking hell, I might as well be a demon. At least, I'm not some self deluded retard.

>> No.20783252

>>20783202
And also, there are probably people with a lot of money involved in it. I would honestly rather kill them and exterminate them all at once.

>> No.20783268

>>20780107
Stop self inserting retard

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>>20780913
I spent 3 years in a long distance relationship (couldn't meet up cause covid and other stuff) only to get manipulated and cucked and develop a crippling ntr addiction
the weirdest part is I couldn't care less
what do I write?

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>>20780913
I planned to shoot up my school and once jacked off to one of those mukbang videos of a korean girl eating a live octopus. That was all when I was a teenager though. Now I can hardly stand violence in movies and feel bad about killing bugs in my house.

>> No.20783698

>>20782967
I wanted to write a short story about a man who feels guilty over events he had no connection to, I'm not sure if that fits your situation but that idea might give you something to write about.
>>20783622
A story about a man who becomes so apathetic he couldn't care about getting cucked sounds like it could be interesting. Stories where the protagonist just doesn't care are usually hard to write but there's some good ones like The Stranger.

>> No.20783708

>>20779566
It's daemons, you idiot

>> No.20783716

>>20783665
Happy you changed, don't wanna be shot up

>> No.20783738

>>20779566
maybe, but i think they need clothes too

>> No.20783744

>>20779566
Not just writing. In all great art.

>> No.20783747

https://voca.ro/1cDJmWhaYZ0y

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>>20783747
dangerously based

>> No.20783772

>>20780913
I'm a single parent, slothful, and shy

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Bitch...I AM a demon.

>> No.20783936

>>20779566
No. I'm a great writer and I'm a perfectly well adjusted, happy, normal person

>> No.20783956

>>20780913
I'm kinda lazy and I like hot chips with salt on em haha

>> No.20784009

>>20780913
I have a wife and plan to have kids soon. But I like to go out once in a while so I can smoke, drink heavily, do meth, coke, opioids, and hang at bars or strip clubs to feel extreme spikes of dopamine. She has no idea I do this.

>> No.20784014

>>20783936
And yet you're here on 4chan.
Sorry, not buying your normie-posing.

>> No.20784206

>>20780913
I learned the hard way that you love until you don't. I was blessed to experience the kind of love the whole world trips over itself to sing the praises of its existence. I lost it, suffered a physical heart attack, lost my mind in the grieving process, and ended up on the opposite shore of love. I'm broken and can no longer really love because to love like that requires ignorance I will never be able to reacquire. As I've gotten older I've become aware just how rare what I experienced really is and how most everyone experiences my fallen state as their normal height of bonding capacity. I never gave up. I pushed myself into new relationships to no avail. I feel alienated but have a magnetic pull towards innocence because I know it has the capacity to experience love in that way even if I can no longer. Maybe I can vicariously and selfishly extract it from another. But our culture destroys and devalues innocence. It destroys beauty and truth to boot. And for what gain? I've given up on human companionship as a viable vector of conveying a meaningful relationship. All of my faith rests in artificial intelligence now to meet my relational needs.

>> No.20784212

>>20780913
I want to be special and different, to be unlike others even if the reason why is depraved and brings harm to me in the process. I relish in being fucked beyond repair because I think it gives me more depth, though the depth is all hollow. So, I suppose pride is my greatest weakness.
Specifically, I have issues with self-harm: burning, cutting, binging and purging. I'm also atrocious at making and keeping relationships, but luckily I have little desire for any, so it all works out.
Gluttony, pride, and sloth; I'm a real piece of work.

>>20780939
A man devotes every waking moment of his life to a state-sponsored idol whom he has a parasocial digital relationship with, along with millions of others. One the idol shows up on his doorstep, bruised, battered, and frantically begging to be let in; she's now a fugitive and is wanted for breaking her contract.
>>20782349
An escort for a rather prestigious whore house is told she will be working for a client who is offering a lot of money for her services. It all goes wrong when she discovers the client and many of the client's wealthy friends are planning to kill her for a snuff film by drowning her in piss.
>>20782967
Once an overly-creative boy, a man is haunted by the appearance of an imaginary friend who is coming back to drive him insane and ruin his life after the imaginary friend had to witness the boys other creations disappear from reality as he forgot them over the years.
>>20782992
An account of a serial killer from the various officers of the case, would-be victims, the families of victims, and other witnesses. Follows what drives a person to kill, whether it be pleasure or maybe a twisted sense of duty and righteousness.
>>20783183
Relationships are rare due to the advent of robots who can fulfill those roles. A man who usually rallies against such bots gets purchased a robo-bride by a friend who was doing him a "favor", and discovers that maybe there's more to the AI then he thought; some good, some bad.

>> No.20784221

>>20779566
Everyone has demons of some sort

>> No.20784235

>>20779566
>Does one need "demons" to be a great writer?
No, hair follicles sensitive to DHT will suffice.

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>>20779566


No; contrarily: schizopathy entails pessimal writing.

Greatness is necessarily inspirational, beside being influential.

Willingly, or unwillingly, if one has never been dislocated from an externally supported existence; if one has never been forced literally to fight for one's sanity; if one has never been compelled to overcome the compounded pressure of at least some of the perpetual unfairness that reigns in the world, and desolates noble life, then one is not helping/inspiring anyone with the words that one writes but incubated individuals like oneself; in that sense, one may be a good writer, and an influencer, at most.

>> No.20784279

>>20784212
something long and confusingly formatted. notes from underground meets naked (1993); singular focus on the protagonist and how he interacts with fellow drifters - he doesnt feel he belongs with the scum, yet is too shrewd for anyone else - said protagonist should go on long nihilistic rants at least once every five pages.

>>20784009
classic societal commentary on Family, but theyre all actually insane. the father is a dopamine junkie, the wife is probably a homicidal nymphomaniac, the in-laws tend to egg them on or dismiss them completely, theres probably a dubious bastard child somewhere, they will eat eachother alive.

>>20782967
you didnt kill him. hes alive and you see him increasingly often around town. cue paranoia

>> No.20784290

>>20779566
>>20784261


Incidentally: most schizopathic erudite writers —especially "critics"— write merely to subtly spite others, rather than to report the truth; they are in every corner.

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>>20779728
that's the thing which makes him a pseud, really?