/lit/ - Literature

Not again!

good luck, niggers

>>20662220
Posting a boring schedule as OP only helps doom the thread. Now, posting sexy book cover?
>priceless

BOUTTA ROLL OUT

AH44 V

>>20662925
Want the best mythology in the world? Read Arthurian literature.
Ah, shit! It's about cucks!

i'm late to the readalong, i'm currently on proteus and ready to fucking drop this
i'm reading and listening to the audiobook at the same time and have a hard time of even understanding who is speaking and what is going on

not mentioning the fact that every second sentance is incomprehensible

unless i swallow my pride i'm not going to finish even this chapter

please convince me it's worth it

>>20663420
Proteus is allegedly the early filter chapter. Once you get past that, the other ones will filter you less

>>20662925
The lesson of all great books shouldn't revolve around the men who were done wrong, but the wrongdoing of the woman. It is a constant theme in literature. He saw the point but missed it entirely.

Cyclops
Myopic views of the citizen and narrator.
Great chapter that’s full of funnies, couldn’t stop laughing.

Are anons even still reading?
Can we do a countl

>>20664143
Red leader, standing by

>>20664143
I'm now... 40 pages behind on Cyclops. I intend to catch up... eventually.

I love how short and straightfoward the Joyce reading list is.

>>20664143
finished it yesterday. thanks op and posters, for the threads. overall a worthwhile experience

>>20664367
Kek

>>20664143
On schedule to finish Cyclops tomorrow.

Is there a translation Joyce used? I've heard Butler's version was an inspiration, but unsure of the validity. If one does want to read the Butler translation (weird given that it's prose) which publishing version is best and not something with shitty paper/margins?

>>20664143
i haven't read a book since 2019

>>20665015
>Forgot to specify "Odyssey" translation

>>20663420
Like that other anon said, Proteus is one of the hardest chapters. It might be the most difficult for me. I admire you taking the time to read the audiobook and the text on your first go through anon. All I can say for sticking with it is that nothing else I’ve read has been able to capture the universal human experience quite like Ulysses, and I think the only way to see that is to read it. Hope if you stick with it you don’t think it was a waste of time.
>>20664143
Still at it you bloody Jesuit. Currently on Ithaca for my second read.
>>20662220
I think part of the problem is all the different time zones.
>>20663974
I said on the last thread, but the way Joyce keeps going through all the names when listing off Irish heroes should be annoying yet he somehow makes it hilarious.

>>20664143
I've been here since May reading... Ulysses only, slowly.
>>20663420
Proteus is designed to filter although it is objectively wonderful writing. Æolus, S&C and Sirens were considerably difficult as well but i am beginning to get drunk from this stream of conscious. Just finished Nausicaa and checking out the next chapt... oh, ok. here we are. and I'm drunk.

Gogartyanon checking in, been neglecting the general lately much to my shame. How is everyone doing? By my estimates we should be reaching Cyclops or Nausicaa now?

>>20664143
gonna finish cyclops today!

>>20665504
schedule's in the OP! Nausicaa begins tomorrow

not again lads

>page8
Not on my watch lol. Imagine getting filtered by bloom wanking on the beach

>>20667415
Ulysses doujinshi when?

>>20667701

>>20667705

>>20667709

>>20667701
There is an actual Ulysses manga. Buck Mulligan was ripped as fuck in it too.

>>20667793
I’m a fucking spastic what the fuck how did I not notice what you posted hahaha

>>20664143
I'm gonna finish Nausicaa tonight. Another funny chapter, though in a different way.

>>20667701
Holy shit Bloom looks like THAT?

>>20668313
nah. he's fat and has a thick moustache. that looks more like joyce than anyone else

>>20668598
Joyce was a skinny little fucker lol. Bloom is based off a man Joyce knew in Trieste

>>20668865
i worded my post wrong.
he's (bloom) fat and has a thick moustache. that (man in the manga) looks more like joyce than anyone else. i.e. the author didn't draw bloom right.

Don’t believe the hype: oxen of the sun is quite delightful. Might be my favourite chapter so far

I know it’s supposed to be a parody, but I love his long description of Gertie McDowell. Particularly, the line where he describes her, “Wealth of wonderful hair.”

Also, just finished A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man and just gotta say I’m glad Buck Mulligan knocked this smug Jesuit down a few pegs.
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>>20668598
>>20667701
On my first read through I pictured him as fat, but on this one I think of him as a bit thinner for some reason.
>>20665504
Hey Gogartyanon, doing good. Doing good, nearly finished with my second re-read. Like I said earlier, I appreciate our stately-plump friend much more after reading it.

>>20670906
There's a sketch of Bloom that Joyce drew. He's round and had a thick moustache.

>I am now a full chapter behind
No one told me life was gonna be this way... My job's a joke, I'm broke, my free time's DOA...

>>20662208
I can't believe I missed it! Fuuuck!

>As for undies they were Gerty's chief care and who that knows the fluttering hopes and fears of sweet seventeen (though Gerty would never see seventeen again) can find it in his heart to blame her? She had four dinky sets with awfully pretty stitchery, three garments and nighties extra, and each set slotted with different coloured ribbons, rosepink, pale blue, mauve and peagreen, and she aired them herself and blued them when they came home from the wash and ironed them and she had a brickbat to keep the iron on because she wouldn't trust those washerwomen as far as she'd see them scorching the things. She was wearing the blue for luck, hoping against hope, her own colour and the lucky colour too for a bride to have a bit of blue somewhere on her because the green she wore that day week brought grief because his father brought him in to study for the intermediate exhibition and because she thought perhaps he might be out because when she was dressing that morning she nearly slipped up the old pair on her inside out and that was for luck and lovers' meetings if you put those things on inside out so long as it wasn't of a Friday.
NEED GERTY MACDOWELL NEED NEED NEED WANT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NEED PLEASE OH MOMMY

>the narrator in the first part of Cyclops was so bored by Bloom and the citizen debating that he made up his own story about an international delegation with ridiculous names who get into a fistfight over what day an Irish saint was born on
I'm sad I waited so long to read this chapter

bump. you goddamn jesuits! keep the thread going! wha do you think of nausicaa so far?

>>20673761
I masturbated to it.

>>20668313
>>20671481
He looks like this.

>>20673844
A portrait of the artist...

>>20673873
well that's bloom not joyce
>>20673844
yeah this is what i was talking about thanks for posting

>>20673873
This is an abstract portrait of James Joyce

>>20674417
More info on this?

>>20671481
>>20673844
Actually something I was wondering does Bloom have glasses? I don’t think it’s mentioned but always felt like he did and looks like he does here.
>>20673761
I’m liking Nausicaa a lot. Like I said the long description of Gertrude at the beginning is really fun. Somehow, doesn’t overstay it’s welcome.
>>20672250
I think it’s sweet the way she plays with the babies.
>>20672732
One of the funniest. Surprised it didn’t garner more discussion here.

>>20672732
I'm very sad it was passed over quite quickly too. The whole framing of the story is amazing. Not much has changed in people telling stories in the pub it seems.

Mentally, I am still on Cyclops. Physically, too.

>>20676527
cyclops might be one of my favourite chapters apart from aeolus

>>20673873
kek

bumpity

you faggots! keep the thread up!

Wake up bros...

>>20662208
Joyce writes erotica in such an artistic way that I stop after sensual sentence and have to reread it to see if I registered it right. The lewdness seems so modern compared to novels written at his time, still recovering from vicrorian puritanism. I totally get how controversial it was when it was released, Joyce was ahead of his time. That fireworks scene was just silly and parodic, but somehow with Joyce's style it felt like a work of art

>>20676527
I need to reread it. I didn't really see the humor in it, don't know if it's an esl thing but I just didn't get it. A bunch of anti semitism, nationalism. Drunk behaviour. The narrator just felt fragmented and I couldn't follow his story about Irish heroes or what thy point was. I admit I was filtered. Nausicaa has been much easier to digest.

>>20678896
I'm going to bed now gn

>>20678997
hint: there's someone called The Arranger who essentially interrupts the narrator to shitpost. it's okay to skim those large passages (they're my favourite parts, though)

>>20676527
Joyce’s ear for local dialogue is so strong you can practically hear it, Cyclops is almost better than any chapter at showing it off it off. If nothing else, after so much stream of consciousness it can be pretty refreshing.
>>20677614
>>20678401
>>20678896
I’m trying anon.
>>20678969
He’s really incredible at that stuff. It’s so beautiful it doesn’t even turn me on. It’s like he’s captured all the feelings of sex without any of the carnal desires.
>>20678997
I was filtered my first time through as well. I think it’s a chapter that requires a lot of attention but once you get it it’s one of the best in there.

>>20662925
Can you tell me if Bloom gets any justice from his wife cucking him. Not gonna put the effort to read a giant crazy tome about guy avoiding going home to his cheating wife.

>>20679970
It’s hinted at this point that they haven’t fucked since their son died and that he is also fucking someone else.

gonna take a nap and finish nausicaa tonight. love you guys

>>20679970
The thing about Joyce is his wife's first bf committed suicide and she never got over it. So Joyce was doomed to be eternally cucked from the grave.

Wake up you fucking Jesuits. Come greet the morning

>everything reminds bloom that he's a cuck
kek

I'm expecting our little post numbers to completely die by the time Oxen and The Sun is finished lol.

>>20678997
> From his girdle hung a row of seastones which jangled at every movement of his portentous frame and on these were graven with rude yet striking art the tribal images of many Irish heroes and heroines of antiquity, Cuchulin, Conn of hundred battles, Niall of nine hostages, Brian of Kincora, the ardri Malachi, Art MacMurragh, Shane O'Neill, Father John Murphy, Owen Roe, Patrick Sarsfield, Red Hugh O'Donnell, Red Jim MacDermott, Soggarth Eoghan O'Growney, Michael Dwyer, Francy Higgins, Henry Joy M'Cracken, Goliath, Horace Wheatley, Thomas Conneff, Peg Woffington, the Village Blacksmith, Captain Moonlight, Captain Boycott, Dante Alighieri, Christopher Columbus, S. Fursa, S. Brendan, Marshal MacMahon, Charlemagne, Theobald Wolfe Tone, the Mother of the Maccabees, the Last of the Mohicans, the Rose of Castile, the Man for Galway, The Man that Broke the Bank at Monte Carlo, The Man in the Gap, The Woman Who Didn't, Benjamin Franklin, Napoleon Bonaparte, John L. Sullivan, Cleopatra, Savourneen Deelish, Julius Caesar, Paracelsus, sir Thomas Lipton, William Tell, Michelangelo Hayes, Muhammad, the Bride of Lammermoor, Peter the Hermit, Peter the Packer, Dark Rosaleen, Patrick W. Shakespeare, Brian Confucius, Murtagh Gutenberg, Patricio Velasquez, Captain Nemo, Tristan and Isolde, the first Prince of Wales, Thomas Cook and Son, the Bold Soldier Boy, Arrah na Pogue, Dick Turpin, Ludwig Beethoven, the Colleen Bawn, Waddler Healy, Angus the Culdee, Dolly Mount, Sidney Parade, Ben Howth, Valentine Greatrakes, Adam and Eve, Arthur Wellesley, Boss Croker, Herodotus, Jack the Giantkiller, Gautama Buddha, Lady Godiva, The Lily of Killarney, Balor of the Evil Eye, the Queen of Sheba, Acky Nagle, Joe Nagle, Alessandro Volta, Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa, Don Philip O'Sullivan Beare.

> A couched spear of acuminated granite rested by him while at his feet reposed a savage animal of the canine tribe whose stertorous gasps announced that he was sunk in uneasy slumber, a supposition confirmed by hoarse growls and spasmodic movements which his master repressed from time to time by tranquilising blows of a mighty cudgel rudely fashioned out of paleolithic stone.

These are just some of the funny bits of Cyclops, and I've felt that this spirit runs throughout. Even the Narrator's antisemitism towards the end seems somewhat silly.

>>20664367
you realise he has other works?

>>20664367
>>20683456
>not including his collection of love poems
>not including his (pretty bad) play
https://www.26reads.com/library/74598-chamber-music
https://www.26reads.com/library/42525-exiles

>>20683531
The antagonist in Exiles is also another Gogarty character lmao. Also the entire play stinks of Ibsen it's quite funny seeing Joyce try to emulate his hero.

>>20680185
>he is also fucking someone else.
I thought their relationship was just by letters? I know Molly thinks he had a thing for the old maid before she fired her, though.
>>20683077
That or some abstract scientific idea.

WAKE
UP
JESUITS

>>20685423
You and me are the only two anons posting in this thread anon, I swear.

Almost done with Nau
What did anons think of how gerty sees Bloom compared to the people at the bar?
Also for some reason I couldn’t help but think of Jeffrey Epstein, there was some voyeur/perv vibe to the chapter

>>20662208
Is Ulysses worth reading?

>>20685433
hey i'm here too!
>>20685575
i can't help feeling a little disappointed in bloom.
>>20686371
yes. a thousand times yes.

will post a few highlights later.
ALSO cissy > gerty

>>20686545
Sorry anon, you too.
>yes, a thousand times yes
Kek, is that a Penelopereference?
>>20686545
>>20685575
I thought it was a little pervy too. I guess it's sort of a nice touch that Bloom is glad he didn't know she had a messed up leg, but it really felt a little mean spirited the way she imagines having this nice marriage to him and he just wants to jerk off to her. This chapter is supposedly a parody of this 19th century novel The Lamplighter so it could just be for laughs, but I wonder if Joyce is saying something about what men and women expect from one another.
>>20681363
Oh man, puts "The Dead," in a whole new perspective.

>>20686814
>she imagines having this nice marriage to him and he just wants to jerk off to her

She seems to enjoy and actually encourage it. Also, she seems to be extremely narcissistic.

I found the whole chapter hilarious:
> Girl has kitsch-vision reveries on the beach
> Le mysterious gentleman appears
> Girl fantasizes about marrying him
> Le mysterious starts jerking off
> Girl is shocked but accepts it and enjoys it too
> fireworks
> Le gentleman is Bloom and now he has to deal with stickiness

>>20686814
>Kek, is that a Penelope reference?
Yup.

>>20687444
>enjoy and actually encourage it
I might be an idjit who missed the encouragement. If that’s the case, makes it a bit funnier. Could be a joke about the way men and women see relationships with strangers. Like I said, it’s apparently based on some sentimental romance novel.

>>20685433
I never thought i'd say this but the schedule is kind of slow. it's like 10 pages a day sometimes. I'm in here lurking everyday, anyways. On Circe.

>>20688109
It's designed for people who don't have a lot of time to read or are reading something else.

>>20688109
I think the pace is ok. Some days I don't have time to read. And some chapters, like OotS are really hard for ESLs.

>>20688109
I'm currently 20 pages away from finishing Cyclops, but I blame it on my friend being in town for once so we're spending a ton of time together.

>Oxen of the Sun starts tomorrow
Hoo boy

>>20688550
I'm scared... Nausicaa was so pleasant that I feel an eminent rug pull. No matter, though Joycebros, we will continue on.

>>20688183
OP here; this was my reason exactly! And I think that if the schedule was tighter a lot less people would be reading currently.

>>20664143
I stop reading from the start. I got bored of it.

>>20689462
you stopped reading?
Why? What was boring?

what the fuck
i am being dragged through the mud

>And whiles they spake the door of the castle was opened and there nighed them a mickle noise as of many that sat there at meat. And there came against the place as they stood a young learningknight yclept Dixon. And the traveller Leopold was couth to him sithen it had happed that they had had ado each with other in the house of misericord where this learningknight lay by cause the traveller Leopold came there to be healed for he was sore wounded in his breast by a spear wherewith a horrible and dreadful dragon was smitten him for which he did do make a salve of volatile salt and chrism as much as he might suffice. And he said now that he should go into that castle for to make merry with them that were there. And the traveller Leopold said that he should go otherwhither for he was a man of cautels and a subtile. Also the lady was of his avis and repreved the learningknight though she trowed well that the traveller had said thing that was false for his subtility. But the learningknight would not hear say nay nor do her mandement ne have him in aught contrarious to his list and he said how it was a marvellous castle. And the traveller Leopold went into the castle for to rest him for a space being sore of limb after many marches environing in divers lands and sometime venery.

>And in the castle was set a board that was of the birchwood of Finlandy and it was upheld by four dwarfmen of that country but they durst not move more for enchantment. And on this board were frightful swords and knives that are made in a great cavern by swinking demons out of white flames that they fix in the horns of buffalos and stags that there abound marvellously. And there were vessels that are wrought by magic of Mahound out of seasand and the air by a warlock with his breath that he blares into them like to bubbles. And full fair cheer and rich was on the board that no wight could devise a fuller ne richer. And there was a vat of silver that was moved by craft to open in the which lay strange fishes withouten heads though misbelieving men nie that this be possible thing without they see it natheless they are so. And these fishes lie in an oily water brought there from Portugal land because of the fatness that therein is like to the juices of the olivepress. And also it was a marvel to see in that castle how by magic they make a compost out of fecund wheatkidneys out of Chaldee that by aid of certain angry spirits that they do into it swells up wondrously like to a vast mountain. And they teach the serpents there to entwine themselves up on long sticks out of the ground and of the scales of these serpents they brew out a brewage like to mead.

Almost every sentence begins with "And."
I love Joyce. I once had the idea to end a short story the same way

this is a very tedious chapter.

>>20690175
It's very evident in Old English. Basically every other sentence began with "And" it's an aamzing chapter, probably the most impressive but can also be a massive slog.

>>20690258
I'm 15 pages in and wouldn't call it that. It's somehow engaging, even though I get filtered a lot because I'm an ESL.

Alright no more fucking about. I've got to read 70 pages to catch up today and God dammit I've got a whole ass free afternoon. I'm putting down the video games and the phone. I'm going READ mode.

>>20690258
>>20690166
>>20688550
I'm ahead so I went back to check Oxen of the Sun to refresh my memory. I'll be honest anons, I don't even remember reading most of this.
>>20688109
I think for something like Ulysses, it's better to err on the side of caution for a schedule. It's a tough book to ask people to read exclusively.
>>20690175
>>20690669
According to this guide,
https://www.ulyssesguide.com/14-oxen-of-the-sun
most of the chapter is a parody of different types of /lit/.
By the way, if you like that you should check out Blood Meridian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0oDTAjkzNM

Oxen turns out to be an amazing chapter. The plethora of styles does a great job conveying a bunch of drunken students. Too bad I'm an ESL and not an English major and I can't get all the subtleties.

Buck Mulligan is called "Le Fecondateur" at one point.

>>20689260
I thought someone else designed the schedule.

>>20692013
i found the concept of describing a bunch of hooligans getting rowdy drunk in a hospital next to someone 3 days in labor in such formal ornate language quite amusing.
>>20690166
for this part i suggest reading a guide/synopsis ahead of the text. It's hard to deduce some details purely from the text. You'll enjoy the prose much more if you establish the scene paragraph by paragraph (there's 40 of them mirroring the weeks of pregnancy)

>>20692157
I'm sorry. I didn't mean I designed the schedule. I meant my reason [for implementing this particular] schedule*
Thanks again to the great anon who designed the reading schedule!

>>20692180
>i found the concept ... quite amusing
Yes

>>20691900
Oxen in the Sun is basically going from Old English to Middle English to Early Modern to Modern. Joyce is showing the characters in the maternity hospital and is showing how English grew in the "womb". As I've said before it's the best written chapter in the whole book, possibly in literature but can be very dry. This is the hardest chapter in the book, get through this and you'll get through anything anons. Circe is childsplay compared to Oxen.

For any Gogartychads if you read "Tumbling in The Hay" you will find this exact chapter from Buck Mulligans point of view.

>>20689260
Hey OP, you did a great job!

Holy fuck Nausicaa was such a breezy read. All of Gerty's POV felt like I was reading stuff from Portrait again, just fast as tempo and really easy to get swept away. I love those long sentences he strings together like the voice of a breathless, lusty animal. The short sentences chopped together in other POVs really slows down my reading speed. Fuckin nice chapter.

As an aside, I'm finding it really hard to glean from Bloom that Blazes and Molly are sleeping together. It's either really well hidden in Bloom's scatterbrained thoughts or I'm just retarded and have been missing it. Do any of the future chapters come out and say it or is it always only hinted that, hey, maybe these two are fucking?

>>20673761
I'm glad I didn't get filtered by it.

I'm a page and a half in and remembering that this kind of prose is exactly why I dropped Suttree.

Oxen killed EVERYBODY

>>20694901
for what it's worth I will insist that Circe is QUITE readable and funny.

>>20692678
I’m ashamed to say it, but I actually missed they were in a maternity ward even on my second read through. Knowing it’s parodying all these different types of styles makes me want to re-read the episode, though. I love looking at different periods of prose. Really interesting idea too about the womb. I think that guide I linked said it was Joyce showing off his mastery of style but I like that explanation much more.
Thanks for the recommendation, by the way Gogarty anon.
>>20693577
I think there might be some more explicit mentions of it in later chapters, but honestly the prose can obfuscate a lot of plot points that you only get through very close reading.
>>20694901
I think the thread actually seems more lively than ever.
>>20694109
I’d say to give it another shot anon. Great follow up to Ulysses.

Good morning fellow Jesuits, it's time to wake up and read your 10-ish pages. I stopped 2 pages shy of my quota yesterday because every other sentence I was Googling the definition of a word.

>>20696056
Bro I’m just furiously writing it all down to look up later bc as you said every other fucking word was something new. Got mogged pretty hard yesterday. How are you liking it? Didn’t come in with the usual heat this morning. Fires died?

>>20696248
I thought the discourse between Stephen, his friends, and Bloom about being able to give abortions was worth rereading several times to really wring all the meaning out of. The difficulty of the prose without using annotated texts makes it really hard to fully understand what all is said and what it means, but I like the mental exercise. That first big paragraph of this chapter was just needlessly cruel. So far the rest has been much more readable.

>To be short this passage was scarce by when Master Dixon of Mary in Eccles, goodly grinning, asked young Stephen what was the reason why he had not cided to take friar's vows and he answered him obedience in the womb, chastity in the tomb but involuntary poverty all his days.
This sentence was somehow hilarious to me

Alright I am fine with blogposting to keep the thread up. Following up the above with
>Master Lenehan at this made return that he had heard of those nefarious deeds and how, as he heard hereof counted, he had besmirched the lily virtue of a confiding female which was corruption of minors and they all intershowed it too, waxing merry and toasting to his fathership. But he said very entirely it was clean contrary to their suppose for he was the eternal son and ever virgin. Thereat mirth grew in them the more and they rehearsed to him his curious rite of wedlock for the disrobing and deflowering of spouses, as the priests use in Madagascar island, she to be in guise of white and saffron, her groom in white and grain, with burning of nard and tapers, on a bridebed while clerks sung kyries and the anthem Ut novetur sexus omnis corporis mysterium till she was there unmaided.
Love that Stephen's bros try to give him the "bro didn't you pound mad pussy in Paris" and he is too melancholy to accept the praise, so they then make fun of him even more and say Stephen basically has to have a whole ass ceremony before he pops his wife's cherry.

And as an aside,
>An exquisite dulcet epithalame of most mollificative suadency for juveniles amatory whom the odoriferous flambeaus of the paranymphs have escorted to the quadrupedal proscenium of connubial communion
Fuck this whole sentence. I had to look up 8 new words.

>>20697085
>quadrupedal proscenium of connubial communion
That’s the only sentence I got without looking up words
Kek
Beast with two backs.

sike

>>20692365
You're welcome

>>20667717
You forgot the best part

>>20698831
kabloom

Nope

>>20696056
I haven’t read my quote today but I’m on Penelope so I don’t feel too bad.
>>20696442
It’s friggin funny, though, I still feel bad for mammy Dedalus.
>>20697085
The bantz in Ulysses is on another level. What’s your favorite line so far in it anon? I love when Buck Mulligan’s messing with Stephen’s Hamlet theory;
>Shakespeare? he said. I seem to know the name.

>>20699619
>The bantz in Ulysses is on another level. What’s your favorite line so far in it anon? I love when Buck Mulligan’s messing with Stephen’s Hamlet theory;
>Shakespeare? he said. I seem to know the name.
How did he put it? "That's the fellow that copied Synge"? Great banter, it really is. Synge is also very much worth reading as well, or watching even.

>>20699619
>what's your favorite line in it so far?
It's surprising I haven't found one to really sell me yet. I think it's because I'm spending so much time trying to read through it and make sure I get just what is being said that I haven't had much time to really enjoy the prose like I did with Portrait. There were a few lines in Nausicaa that I thought were peak Bloom and peak man.
>Mr Bloom with careful hand recomposed his wet shirt. O Lord, that little limping devil.
Felt this after a good orgasm. You're still slightly awash in the afterglow so you think things like the second sentence.

>Dixon tells a whole myth story about a farmer who breeds a bull so big that he runs around the island protecting (king?) Harry's lands and pastures
>Stephen has a meltdown about how women are ingrates who only want to fuck big bull cock and that's why all the good Irishmen left for America
Joyce, please, I thought this is supposed to be a serious book

>>20701289
Ulysses is a comedy

>>20662208
—I just wanted to say, he said. Ireland, they say, has the honour of being the only country which never persecuted the jews. Do you know that? No. And do you know why?
He frowned sternly on the bright air.
—Why, sir? Stephen asked, beginning to smile.
—Because she never let them in, Mr Deasy said solemnly.
A coughball of laughter leaped from his throat dragging after it a rattling chain of phlegm. He turned back quickly, coughing, laughing, his lifted arms waving to the air.
—She never let them in, he cried again through his laughter as he stamped on gaitered feet over the gravel of the path. That’s why.
On his wise shoulders through the checkerwork of leaves the sun flung spangles, dancing coins.

>>20702194
How much has Joyce influenced your writing?

>>20702194
What are you insinuating, Mr Frater Asemlen?

>>20702830
Not much at all. I think he’s good or serviceable but he’s never had that much of an impact on me. The wake is better in my opinion too.

> “The voices blend and fuse in clouded silence: silence that is the infinite of space: and swiftly, silently the soul is wafted over regions of cycles of generations that have lived. A region where grey twilight ever descends, never falls on wide sagegreen pasturefields, shedding her dusk, scattering a perennial ·394· dew of stars. She follows her mother with ungainly steps, a mare leading her fillyfoal. Twilight phantoms are they yet moulded in prophetic grace of structure, slim shapely haunches, a supple tendonous neck, the meek apprehensive skull. They fade, sad phantoms: all is gone. ”

Excerpt From
The Complete James Joyce
James Joyce
This material may be protected by copyright.

Holy fuck broboros

>>20700159
Was about to say that I never read him, until I realized that he wrote The Playboy of the Western World. Read that in the same class we did Dubliners, but again I don’t think I really appreciated it my first time though. I’m sorry Dr. A, wish I appreciated Irish /lit/ more.
>>20700940
I felt sort of similar on my first read through. Didn’t really appreciate how clever some of the lines were until I re-read them with a better understanding. I’m ashamed to say, but I can agree that line from Bloom is dishearteningly relatable.
>>20701289
>>20702178
I still don’t know if I’d just call it a comedy, but it’s friggin hilarious.
>>20702830
Not him, but if I ever write after reading Joyce I find myself inadvertently trying to copy his style. It always turns out poorly done and amateurish, but I can’t help it. He’s too good.
>>20704754
Is this just him writing stuff on the fly?

>>20705306
>Is this just him writing stuff on the fly?
From Oxen of the Sun chapter.

oxen slaughtered our crew

>>20707219
Where’s everyone!
I though /lit was full of geniuses that understood every book easily, I need those geniusesboros to explain to me the chapters

>>20707219
Not true, they just fucked all our women

>>20707219
I think Proteus took a good few out, then S+C took a very heavy toll then Oxen simply picked off the weary. I'm hoping there's still enough left for Penelope to even have a thread lol.

>>20707219
I'm still here

>Mulligan's genius business venture idea is to set up a fertilization farm with himself as the chief bull on an island at least 8 miles outside of Dublin which he bought from an unpopular Englishman
Fucking hell, how are people filtered by this chapter? Once you get past the demanding first 3 pages this shit turns super readable and very funny.

>>20707219
i'm still here, but i stopped posting because i'm busy. keeping up and looking forward to circe

>>20707219
I was busy the last two days so I haven't posted nor read, but it looks like I might still finish Oxen ahead of schedule. I'll definitely finish Ulysses. Beauty of prose and humor aside, it's the most intriguing novel I've read so far.

>>20708347
what else is on the shelf? Of what I've been reading lately, Ulysses is the book I'm most eager to return to. Hope to get a physical copy and take more time with it, reading alongside some other classic (perhaps the Odyssey). I realized reading Oxen how normal it is to consult supplementary material when confronting daunting texts - Joyce used them to write the piece so of course I'll use them to read it. Hell, he first read the Odyssey via an abridged version for kids. The book seems founded on jokes and games, almost predicting Wittgenstein's language-game philosophy. Stephen and Bloom's lives are littered with little trials and games throughout the day, often with their dignity at stake. Anyways, I feel like i often feel like i'm losing 'this' game but what i do get is quite amusing. I'm hoping that it magically makes more sense next time - as some anon posted awhile ago "comprehension is inevitable" (i hope).

>read first paragraph
>oh fuck.jpg
>ctrl+f "mulligan"
>skip ahead to the part where he enters

this is how we roll.

>For answer Mr Mulligan, in a gale of laughter at his smalls, smote himself bravely below the diaphragm, exclaiming with an admirable droll mimic of Mother Grogan (the most excellent creature of her sex though 'tis pity she's a trollop): There's a belly that never bore a bastard.
my fucking sides

>>20709169
Oxen is shaping up to be my favorite chapter after Nausicaa. It's very opaque at first glance but if you focus on what's being described rather than what's written, it's very easy to follow. The one filter is that horribly hard third paragraph.

>Lynch's girlfriend thinks that going naked is better than wearing clothes
How to get a girl like this? Holy shit

you can stop samefagging. noone cares

>>20709517
fuck. you got me

What’s the importance of The Rose of Castile it keeps popping out.

>>20709517
Someone has to keep the thread up.

>>20709396
>How to get a girl like this? Holy shit
it aint holy

>>20707219
I feel like Circe is going to get the rest

>>20710659
Baka, Circe was the most clearly written chapter yet and definitely the climax and payoff for putting up with oxen. I found it quite apparent where fantasy and reality began throughout. My advice: read it like a script for a movie, not a play - he was an enthusiast, after all. Eumaeus was frustrating after all that direct action, but Ithaca is comfy af

>>20705630
Oy, I really did miss a lot on this read through.
>>20707219
I’m here.
>>20707789
>>20709158
>>20709169
Mulligan is the unsung hero that will keep this thread alive.
>>20709954
No idea anon, couldn’t even find much about it online. Wonder if it’s just an opera Joyce liked?
>>20710659
I feel like Circe may reinvigorate people if they can make it to it. The language is much simpler and it’s one of the funnies chapters.

>>20709954
>>20711001
It's a pun.
>What opera is like a railway line?
>Rose of Castile
>Rows of Cast Steel

GOOD
MORNING
You fucking Jesuits. Get up here and smell the morning air. How many pages do you have left on Oxen? 20 for me

>>20711101
I get the pun, but I meant why it was brought up a few times like >>20709954 was saying.
>>20712079
I'm on Penelope, but I'm re-listening to the start of Oxen and the Sun in shame because I missed so much of it.

>>20712079
10 - I'll finish it tonight

>>20708706
>what else is on the shelf?

Rather boring nonfiction: Why the Germans do it better - about the success of postwar Germany and The cathedral and the bazaar - about Linux and open source software. I was reading Against Nature by Huysmans, but stopped to avoid any interference with Ulysses.

>The book seems founded on jokes and games, almost predicting Wittgenstein

The more I read, the less clear it gets what the book is really about. I guess I shouldn't jump to conclusions till I finish. I'm not sure if the games part is really dominant, we'll see.

>i often feel like i'm losing 'this' game

For me, the prose manages to carry me along, so I really don't expect to understand everything on my first read. I've heard someone say that to read Ulysses you have to read it twice - not only because of the complexity of references, but because you can't really understand some stuff in the earlier chapters without stuff from the later ones.

>"comprehension is inevitable"

Not so sure about it, but in my experience you certainly get better perspectives about books with time - I'm just not convinced that the last one you get will be the true one, if it even exists, especially for Ulysses.

>>20708706
>Wittgenstein's language-game philosophy
hey, anon. could you elaborate on this more?
> some anon posted awhile ago "comprehension is inevitable"
that was me!

Heh, I'll bet you thought you could drink your sorrows away in Horne's bar. Well wake up, God dammit. Mrs. Purefoy is giving birth upstairs

>>20712536
This, the pun and riddle are funny n easy to get but why does it keep popping out?
Is it the idea of progress?
Railroads connecting the world faster, etc?
Is he comparing human movement/migration/transportation and its evolution to that of language, or am I overthinking it?
Is it just some wandering rock Joyce put there for readers to crash on?

>yfw you realize the "handsome stranger with burning eyes" is just Bloom jerking off on a bench

>>20713844
Where are you getting the bench from? There's no bench.

8 pages left... I'm gonna make it... Oxen is considered the hardest chapter in the book, right?

Circe is about 170 pages so make sure you read roughly 24 to 25 pages a day to keep pace with the schedule!

>>20714989
It is the hardest anon, keep up! If you can make it through this, you can make it through Circe!
>>20715135
If that sounds hard to any anons, just know Circe's pages are much quicker to get through than the others. You'll see why when you get to it.
>>20713815
>evolution to that of language
Could be that anon, with the themes that are introduced in Oxen of the Sun.

bump

You're all Jesuit scum! Asleep while her Majesty's emerald jewel tarnishes! Ashamed you should be.

>>20718302
Final thoughts on oxen?

>>20718444
I liked it! Very tied up in difficult to parse prose, but I think once you get into the beat of the writing, it gets easy to stay on pace and collect the meaning. The two parts I didn't fully know what was happening in were the very beginning and the end. My thought on the end is that all the boys leave Horne's hospital after hearing that Purefoy gave birth successfully and decide to celebrate at Burke's, which if memory serves was a bar mentioned in a previous chapter. The rest I think is a scattered collection of multiple voices and thoughts talking over each other in a drunken mess. It was hard to determine exactly what they were talking about or who was saying what. All in all, I can see why people say it was the hardest chapter, especially coming off of Nausicaa which was a dream to read.

>>20718444
I got filtered . . . I just skimmed it and read the summary in the Bloomsday Book.
This is my second time reading too.

>>20718507
Yes at the end they are about to go get fucked up.
>>20718706
Kek

>>20718706
What filtered you?
I found this helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmRErSzIMuE&list=PLxlGs_Xj2HYA8P6E2Jy6Ub9m7eqs-9lcU&index=20

>>20718444
The pains of becoming of English literature? Culminating in a cacophony of drunkenness? I don't know, it's a very perplexing chapter. It's like a museum focused on a history, somehow tied to a difficult labor.
I enjoyed many parts of it, though. But at least part of the enjoyment may have come from being able to make sense of those difficult phrases. Lots of kino passages, lots of funny bits, but it appears you really need to be an English major to fully appreciate and understand what's going on. I did enjoy it though - but not so much as other chapters.

Haven't posted in a while. I'm a first-time reader and have read ahead a bit, halfway done with Circe. Circe is very fun and has a cinematic feel to it; it's very surreal, and bizarre, but explicitly so, and therefore easy to follow. If you're fatigued after Oxen like I was, you'll be rewarded with Circe. Very sad we're so few now, but I'm guilty of not posting much, adding to the discussion. I feel like I'd have a much better time discussing it on my second read. So much goes over my head that I can barely follow the plot, so all I can really post about are just initial impressions of reading Joyce's prose, some themes and characters maybe.
Oxen for me felt like reading another language, but certain passages do give away the themes of birth from the womb, and the last pages of the drunken banter were pretty fun. Couldn't help but feel like Joyce was just flexing his talent in imitating old Engling prose, purposefully using outdated and obscure words. Couldn't bother looking them all up

>>20719733
>purposefully using outdated and obscure words
Is English your maternal language, anon?

>>20719733
>>20719768
Where are my manners? I was asking because I'm an ESL and am curious how native speakers deal with the vocabulary.

>>20719799
I usually try to context clue it. If it's clear that it's an obsolete word I usually don't bother. I'll break out the dictionary on the occasion where I think it'll really enhance my meaning of a sentence. Oxen added something like 30 new words to my vocabulary list.

>>20719768
>>20719799
No it's not, but the vocab hasn't been a problem really until Oxen, like the other anons said I usually get the gist of most harder words from the context. I mostly get filtered from references to Irish history and the constant change in narrative. I have a hard time distinguishing between the Narrator and the Arranger. I just found out about the latter recently actually, so reading Ulysses again with with the Arranger in mind would help.

Ulysses has also exposed my weak attention span. I thought it was decent until reading Ulysses, because it demands extreme focus to imagine the "scenes" in the book. I understand the words and context but most of the time am too lazy to read carefully and imagine the scenes play out. I can't put my finger on why, but probably because his prose can be extremely abstract and multilayered. Maybe some other anon can explain what makes his prose hard to imagine in more detail

okay i'm sorry, but while Oxen was very funny, i can't help feeling relieved that it's over. maybe some time later i'll dedicate an entire day to reading and analysing oxen again.

>>20720418
It really was a grueling chapter. It's hard to believe we're about halfway through the book and there's only 4 chapters left. Circe alone takes up almost a quarter of the book's printed paper. That's insane to me.

>>20721470
It’s a movie script, a tv prugrum

>>20721812
A play, you fool

To that anon with a copy of the Ulysses manga: is it scanned online anywhere or is that why you bought a physical copy? All the ones I've seen online are about $200 or more.

>>20720106
I've started using the dictionary more and more in Oxen, and I often found out that my inferred meaning was far from accurate. But I have a problem with some expressions - either Irishisms or older English expressions.

> the Arranger
Didn't know about that. Good to know.

> extreme focus to imagine the "scenes"

I want to keep away from that, and just let the book carry me along. So far, I'm very satisfied with this approach.

>>20723694
>and I often found out that my inferred meaning was far from accurate
This has been my biggest aggravation. Sure, I get a ton of insight into what Joyce is actually writing, but I have to fucking stop my reading flow every 2 sentences and look up some new word he threw in there. It really took me out of it.

How do you do, fellow Joyceboros? All you puffing Poldys, all you blowing Bloohooms? I for one am nearly erect with delight at how much of a breeze Circe is compared to Oxen, despite her length. Oxen was quite the filter for me and I found myself, after having read for a few pages, forced to return and retry, dictionary and notebook in hand. (I am not ESL, I'm merely a retard) I don't think though that there is an anon here remaining that won't claim that Oxen was difficult. Possibly the last test of the book? I will not be writing up any form of analysis for Oxen as it lives in my mind as a traumatic experience that one day I may learn from though today is not that day. I will however share some highlights:
>Therefore, everyman, look to that last end that is thy death and the dust that gripeth on every man that is born of woman for as he came naked forth from his mother's womb so naked shall he wend him at the last for to go as he came.
>A black crack of noise in the street here, alack, bawled back. Loud on left Thor thundered: in anger awful the hammerhurler. Came now the storm that hist his heart.
>The voices blend and fuse in clouded silence...
That entire paragraph was beautiful to read.
I also fucking loved the gibberish sloshed slurring drunken conversation that fills the remaining pages of the chapter.

Anyway. So the pace for Circe is about 25-26 pages/day right? Shouldn't be too bad in this case. I barely eked 6 a day for Oxen. Good luck, fellows!

Sleepy Jesuits get made fun of at Burke's

>Each has his banjo slung. Their paler smaller negroid hands jingle the twingtwang wires. Flashing white Kaffir eyes and tusks they rattle through a breakdown in clumsy clogs, twinging, singing, back to back, toe heel, heel toe, with smackfatclacking nigger lips.
Mr. Joyce, this isn't PC... but at least I recognized the song they were singing

Guys come the fuck on. I make a post before I go to bed and I have to make another when I get up?

>>20727850
>tfw people got so badly mogged by Oxen they've given up reading

>>20727913
It's a shame because Circe is really fun with the way Joyce is toying with aspects of time through changing people and italicized scene settings.

>>20727930
Then after that you get a really comfy chapter with a lot of little things going on in the back.

I'm falling behind big time.

>>20727954
Keep going anon, you got this.

is it good and worth reading or pretentious shit for pseuds? I don't read fiction much, would I be able to follow along and find it enjoyable?

>>20724049
>I have to fucking stop my reading flow every 2 sentences
It happens but not that often and it depends on passage or chapter.

>>20724693
>How do you do, fellow Joyceboros?
I'm excited for Circe because it's not only a breeze and often very funny, but it also elucidates a number of things about Bloom.

>>20728145
> is it good and worth reading
> I don't read fiction much
Why would you want to read it then? If you have some criteria about good books, your question may be answered. I don't think this is really a book for everyone and it's certainly not a breeze to read.

>>20728145
It’s a hilarious book.
I wouldn’t call it pretentious but aspiring, Joyce wanted readers to enjoy the book but he wanted to give the reader more than just a nice story.
You would enjoy it even if you haven’t read any of the references and allusion Joyce gives, but having a companion book or just watching some yt vids explaining parts will help.
Of course the more you’ve read (references) the more you will enjoy

>>20728719
My post was about Oxen specifically

>>20729060
Yes, Oxen was the peak of this, but even there it varies.

>model young ladies playing on the pianoforte or anon

Anon bros, I think Joyce is speaking to us

>>20729795
wdhmbt

what the fuck is the potato

>>20730724
https://www.bloomsandbarnacles.com/blog/2020/04/28/blooms-potato

>>20730724
His prostate
t. Has no idea what you're talking about

>>20718444
It made me realize what a pseud I am because I didn’t catch half of it. Excited to give it another go, though, with the evolution of English lit in mind.
>>20719733
Don’t feel bad about not posting as much anon, I never come here on the weekend.
I pretty much had the same feeling as you my first read through as well. On my second now and loving it, but I think there are a ton of plot points people will miss on their initial go through. Hope you’re still happy to be following along, though.
>>20719799
Much like the other anons said, I usually figure it out through context.
>>20721812
Junia!
>>20724693
All downhill from here anon. If you think some of the other chapters were weird, get ready for Circe. It’s Joyce unchained.
>>20727954
Keep going my man!

>GEORGES FOTTRELL: (Clerk of the crown and peace, resonantly.) Order in court! The accused will now make a bogus statement.
>Bloom proceeds to make some incoherent speech about being a good citizen
>the next line is about how one time he shit in a plasterer's bucket
>Bloom then starts singing in a sleepwalking daze
>the entire court shouts him down
I'm fucking done. It will take me years to ever be this senselessly funny.

Damn guys, it's just Circe. Get your act together.

>>20733048
Oxen is what killed people me thinks. The Gogarty read along will never take off now tut tut

>>20733100
The reading groups in general have been pretty successful here. We just had Don Quixote back in March and now we've gone through most of Joyce's major repertoire. Someone else somewhere mentioned doing a read group for pulpy noir novels or Westerns. As long as people keep them rolling, they'll be successful.

>>20733145
>pulpy noir novels or Westerns
stay with classics

>>20733404
Let’s read Frankenstein next. Easy read, gives anons time to reread passages from Ulysses and review their notes etc.

>>20733640
You can do anything you want anon, as long as the board is interested enough to read along with you.

>>20734297
Any book suggestions? Easy reads?

>>20733048
op here! i'm reading but not posting.

>>20733048
Circe is my least favourite chapter.

>>20733100
i kinda wanna do infinite jest next. seems very interesting

>>20734893
Why? I've found it hard to tell exactly what's going on but I'm just picturing it as Bloom hallucinating/daydreaming on his walk home.
>>20734828
Post and keep the thread alive! I still link quotes I like even if they're back to back or really short. It can't be much of a reading group if there's 310 posts of "bump" every thread.
>>20734567
You'd probably want to pick a book that most people would want to read. These big reads are really taxing on time and investment, t. has been here since Dubliners. You can poll the board, you can make multiple threads asking, etc. I'd be interested in a week-long read of a shorter book.

>Bloom walks on a net, covers his left eye with his left ear, passes through several walls, climbs Nelson's Pillar, hangs from the top ledge by his eyelids, eats twelve dozen oysters (shells included),
Alright, the oysters made me laugh

>”He implored me to soil his letter in an unspeakable manner, to chastise him as he richly deserves, to bestride and ride him, to give him a most vicious horsewhipping.

mrs bellingham

Me too.

mrs yelverton barry

Me too.”

Excerpt From
The Complete James Joyce
James Joyce
This material may be protected by copyright.

>>20736162
I swear Bloom is a part self-insert. He even calls out exhibitionism, which I'm pretty sure is one of his fetishes, later in Circe.

>>20736165
Bloom got canceled. Joyce would’ve been like Louis ck

>(He hesitates amid scents, music, temptations. She leads him towards the steps, drawing him by the odour of her armpits, the vice of her painted eyes, the rustle of her slip in whose sinuous folds lurks the lion reek of all the male brutes that have possessed her.)
>THE MALE BRUTES: (Exhaling sulphur of rut and dung and ramping in their loosebox, faintly roaring, their drugged heads swaying to and fro.) Good!
All smellfags should be executed.

how's this chapter so far? it was kind of hard to tell what was real and what wasn't at the beginning

>>20702194
What are you trying to say? Isn't the point of nestor that literally every word he says is bullshit?

>>20664143
I started reading two months ago and finished just yesterday. But I didn't really pay attention to these threads (nor did I start reading Ulysses because of them).
>>20733145
>Don Quixote
How did anons like it?
How about Zauberberg next?

>>20713797
Yeah what was the deal anyway with having a drinking bout in a maternity hospital?

>>20692678
>>20695179
I thought I recognized Gibbon (decline and fall) and then looked it up.
>>20693577
>As an aside, I'm finding it really hard to glean from Bloom that Blazes and Molly are sleeping together. It's either really well hidden in Bloom's scatterbrained thoughts or I'm just retarded and have been missing it. Do any of the future chapters come out and say it or is it always only hinted that, hey, maybe these two are fucking?
Idk, I also had to get that from ulyssesguide about 1/3rd way through. Actually I was vaguely thinking of Bloom's spicy pen-pal and Molly's adultery as the same thing. It should be clear-ish from the way she handles the letter in chapter 4 though.
Also
>Molly’s name on the envelope should by proper etiquette appear as Mrs. Leopold Bloom
(it's written Mrs. Marion Bloom)

>>20662208
Should probably read the Odyssey first

>>20727954
Was behind 200 pages five days ago. Juat caught up today. You can do it anon!

>>20662208
I found that the best time to read Ulysses is in the morning over breakfast. Just leave my phone by my bed and get to it a little later than normal.

>>20739230
Thats the best time for reading in general. I routinely wake up an hour before i need to get ready for work, and spend said hour reading. An hour a day consistently will get you far. Reading is a great way to lightly wake up the brain. If I'm reading something harder like I am currently doing with Ulysses, I like to have an easier book by my side (currently reading about danish history in the 12th century) and maybe warm up for 20 minutes with that. Reading in the afternoon just doesnt work for me, as I'm too tired and will distract myself with my constant yawning.

This has been the daily comfy post of the Joyce read along. I'm praying for you anons to stay with us till the end :)

>>20739596
I usually have an hour before I'm on my way to work, so by 6:40ish I'm usually at the table with my oatmeal reading. I can usually get 20 to 30 minutes in that way. Then at night I might do another half hour in my chair before bed. When you're also trying to balance a few other hobbies it can make for a very tight day.

>(Leering, Gerty Macdowell limps forward. She draws from behind, ogling, and shows coyly her bloodied clout.)
what does clout mean here?

>>20740738
What Edwardian girls used for menstrual pads. Remember in Nausicaa:
>That squinty one is delicate. Near her monthlies, I expect, makes them feel ticklish.

>>20664143
I got banned. On Penelope

>>20735717
>hallucinating/daydreaming
Not him, but I think it’s exactly that. You know when you have daydreams of being wildly successful and well liked? I think Circe captures that feeling perfectly.
>>20737611
I think the parts that seem too absurd to be true generally are. It’s tough, though, because Joyce switches quickly between them.
>>20737844
Congrats on catching up my man!

>BLOOM: (Reflects precautiously.) That antiquated commode. It wasn’t her weight. She scaled just eleven stone nine. She put on nine pounds after weaning. It was a crack and want of glue. Eh? And that absurd orangekeyed utensil which has only one handle.

So Molly weighs 163 pounds huh?

>>20741076
i thought so! but why does she say "you did this to me"?

Just got to the femdom part of Circe. If I ever make a Read/Expected/Got of this I know exactly what I'm including.

Does anyone else get a söyboy feeling from Bloom? I swear, Cyclops makes him look like a redditor.

25 pages more for today. It's crazy to think we're still over a month out from finishing this.

>>20743626
he's just a bit quirky desu

>>20744659
>quirky
literally what every söyboy ascribes himself

>>20742610
I feel that most of Circe is a daydream/hallucination, but Joyce presents the subconscious mind, so there’s a reality to it, hidden/unaccomplished goals and aspirations, fears etc come forward, it’s truth but not reality.

>>20662208
U.P.: up

>>20743611
Kek

Bloom got me tooed

>>20745490
When you die u p, in other words your time is up

>>20745490
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HAE YOU I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE IT ANYMROE
gonna call the jannies!!!!

I'm about 20 pages behind. Let's see if I can catch up in half an hour.

>fucked a woman behind a church
>exposed himself in a telephone box
>asked a whore to shit and piss in an abandoned outhouse
>anonymously asked stronger men to fuck his wife. Five times. In public forums.
>walked by the sewage plants to see if any people were fucking near them
>laid in bed with a piece of used toilet paper beating off after Martha told him to do so via letter
Jesus Christ, Bloom.

>>20746771
Hey man, he’s a bloomer, just give him some time

>>20746944
Binbad the Bloomer

>>20747024
Kek

>>20742627
Hey good but if trivia anon.
>>20743611
Kek, that’s perfect for that.
>>20745474
You could really get into a rabbit hole examining Bloom’s psyche just from this scene alone.
>>20746771
The toilet paper part really grossed me out.

>>20662208
Are anons even still reading?

>>20748715
I finished my daily page count this morning, but I'm having so much fun that I'll probably continue reading tonight.

>>20748715
Mulliganon checking in, I haven't actually read at all because the book in engraved into me at this point I feared the Proteus and Oxen would be the death of the reader count and it seems so. Only the hardened remain and how richly rewarded they are.

>>20748715
I’ll finish Circe tomorrow

>>20749951
same

>>20749951
I finished today

>>20748715
I might finish Circe today.

This chapter is heaven for smellfags.

>>20662208
Is there anything I should read before jumping into Ulysses?

>>20752478
No if you have general knowledge of literature

>During dark nights I heard your praise.

The line alone sound like a conversation between god and a follower. Something out of exodus, OT shit, fucking biblical.

>STEPHEN: Nothung! (He lifts his ashplant high with both hands and smashes the chandelier. Time's livid final flame leaps and, in the following darkness, ruin of all space, shattered glass and toppling masonry.)
I noticed this during the Portrait read when his uncle and Dante are arguing at the table, but even though Joyce describes actions very slowly, they have enormous impact every time I see something violent like this. I think it's the context around the violence he sets up and then delivers with a normally overused word like "smashes". In Portrait I think the uncle's verb is "crashes" describing his fist slamming on the table.

>>20752688
I remember thinking the same thing about that line.

>finished Circe a whole day early
Crap. What do I read now?

fuck. i'm far from finisihing circe

>>20753963
It's impressive how quickly it ate up the page count. I went from wondering why we were only halfway through the book to being nearly at the finish line.

>>20749567
A few of us read on and finished the book. I am one of them, yes.

Btw I found this amusing lil “documentary” about Ulysses that features short re-enactments of proteus, calypso, cyclops, circe, Ithaca and Penelope. I’m sceptical one can spoil Ulysses so don’t feel timid about checking it out.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob3NWUtCCJI

>>20754946
I'm wondering about the Ulysses manga, now. Is there a scan of it anywhere? Paying $200 for a copy online that probably is in Japanese and hasn't been translated feels like a raw deal.

>>20754946
I've watched that one a few times. Poirot was great as Bloom lol. Why Stephen has a ponytail I'll never know

>>20752846
Did the same. Just kept on reading. Would rather be ahead than behind

Hohohohome

What are anons final thoughts on Circe?

The scene with the mother reminded me of Kubricks the shining with the old hag.

>>20754946
>Ulysses is about love . . . the profound love of men for men
lol ulysses is gay

>>20754946
>>20755568
Check out the 1967 film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7xAM_eXuuk

>>20756833
Circe was good. I wish I had known going into it that it was going to be part hallucination part real life, but I think I got a pretty good understanding about 20 pages in. The argument between Stephen and the bobbies at the end was kino.
It was insanely funny. I made a post earlier about Bloom being defamed and told to give a bogus statement, so he makes this long speech about how he's a good person, then a line later someone accuses him of shitting in a bucket and when he tries to defend himself (by changing the subject) they just shout him down. That felt like something you'd see in South Park.

>>20756877
What you say about my fucking king?!

Just finished my re-read of Ulysses. So glad I did since it’s become one of my top ten books. Thanks for starting this OP.
>>20756833
Didn’t think about that but it’ll be in my mind now.

bump

There's about 50 pages in Eumæus so in 4 days you should do 13 pages a day. It's a very fast read too.

To help keep this thread going, let me ask you all do you like Bloom? Personally I love him. He can seem sort of pedantic and smug sometimes, but he also seems like a genuinely caring person who tries to do the right thing. I also feel like we get such a rich view of his brain it’s impossible not to feel a little attached to him.

>>20760780
He seems like a person. It literally could be anyone of you, or someone you know.
He seems like a cool person to have a conversation about life, the universe, etc.

>>20760780
I wish Bloom were my father.

>>20762172
bloom wishes you were his son

I didn't like Nausicaa, Oxen, and Circe as much as I did the rest of the novel.

Why is Bloom jabbering on about bullshit in the first part of this chapter? Is he trying to deflect because Stephen is anti-catholic and he's worried his sourpuss mood is going to get them shanked? I'm a little lost here.
>>20762532
Cyclops through Circe was my favorite part of the novel, desu.

>>20762858
Because he is a neurotic Jew

You will stay alive for dialogues in the cab man's shelter and for the upcoming house and bed chapters. And then you'll watch the two films made and produce your opinions on the matter.

“One thing I never understood, he said, to be original on the spur of the moment, why they put tables upside down at night, I mean chairs upside down on the tables in cafés.

To which impromptu the neverfailing Bloom replied without a moment’s hesitation, saying straight off:

—To sweep the floor in the morning.

So saying he skipped around nimbly, considering frankly, at the same time apologetic, to get on his companion’s right, a habit of his, by the bye the right side being, in classical idiom, his tender Achilles. The night air was certainly now a treat to breathe though Stephen was a bit weak on his pins.

—It will (the air) do you good, Bloom said, meaning also the walk, in a moment. The only thing is to walk then you’ll feel a different man. It’s not far. Lean on me.”

Excerpt From
The Complete James Joyce
James Joyce
This material may be protected by copyright.

>holy shit, this scene is great. I’m there. I’m bloom and I’m Stephen.
>Holy fuck. I’ve seen these scenes before in real life.

Bump-post. I haven't had time to post here and fell behind but finally caught up. Hope you anons are having fun reading the Bloom-Stephen interactions.
I wonder how many left we are, feels like Oxen filtered so many, and maybe even Circe cause of its length. How are the anons left holding up?

>>20752478
You should have a light understanding of Western Canon. Odyssey, some Shakespeare, etc. Not trying to be off-putting but its a long and difficult read so no reason not to make the most of it.

>>20760780
here's a maybe-kinda-shitposty question to consider: since joyce has lain bloom out for us to parse and pick through so intimately and thoroughly, and since we probably know bloom, a fictional character, in and out more fully than we have known anyone else in the world, how do you think he compares to chris-chan? considering chris-chan's been documented more than anybody else in history and all.

>>20764565
I'd say less than 10, by my count. This was also a very long reading group for those of us who started with Dubliners about half a month before Ulysses.

>>20765570
God it feels so long ago when it all started. Good times though.

>>20765570
I started on portrait. But I had just finished reading Foucault. So it did feel like a long read.
There’s some ideas that jumps from portrait to Ulysses. The identity theme is repeated and expanded.

>>20765351
chris chan is te modern ulysses

>>20767685
The difference is I like Bloom. I can't fucking stand Chris.

>>20760832
You can almost imagine how he’d react to any situation for how good a job Joyce does at making him feel real.
>>20762172
I like him but he’s not as good as my dad.
>>20764565
Finished but still trying to follow along with the thread.
>>20765351
That’s a great comparison but I don’t think they’re the same. Bloom is a fictional character so when we look into his head we know we’re seeing his exact thoughts. All we have of Chris Chan is the stuff publicly available. Despite what some armchair psychiatrists on Kiwi Farms might say, we don’t know what’s exactly going through his head. Maybe Chris Chan is more like Joan of Arc in that much of his life is so well documented. I’d hate to say it but it may be all the bully sites and forums built around Chris may be used in the future to give people an idea of the early 21st century the same way the Trial of Joan of Arc was used.
>>20762858
I think he just likes to talk kek.

Soon we will hit bump limit. Kind of insane to think about it.

>What two temperaments did they individually represent?
>The scientific. The autistic.

Anonboros, what did he mean by this?

Also bloom has good thoughts

>“He reflected that the progressive extension of the field of individual development and experience was regressively accompanied by a restriction of the converse domain of interindividual relations.”

Excerpt From
The Complete James Joyce
James Joyce
This material may be protected by copyright.

As much as I love 4chan, he’s onto something here, might be cliché but “dime con quien andas y te dire quien eres”

>pg8

>>20769355
He means Stephen is the mind and Bloom is the body, sort of like how the Karamazov Brothers are the animal, the intellectual, and the spiritual sides of man.

This'll be the bump limit post but I hope everyone is having a good time with Eumæus. We're closing in on the home stretch. In less than 2 weeks we'll be done with Ulysses.

Just want to say thanks to the bros still reading. I know we lost a lot of people along the way. I was half hoping for a fast general filled with great memes and discussion that would really bring the board together, but I suppose it was a bit much to ask. In any case, I've got some ideas for a REG and I've had a good time reading so far. Maybe my next read will be a more thorough study of the text to get all the references.

If anyone has any ideas for future read alongs, please feel free to just drop a thread and see if it garners attention. These read alongs are probably the best thing to do for this board.

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