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Mostly Marxism and Sorel, probably Bernstein too. If you really want to know, read Ideology of Fascism by Gregor.

>>20726924
The biggest influences were the early fascists Gabriele d'Annunzio, Alceste de Ambris, and Giovanni Gentile.

>>20726924
Gentile came up with anything of worth in fascism. Mussolini just ruined it, especially by siding with Hitler who forced his stupid ideologies on him.

>>20726963
>Gabriele d'Annunzio
not a fascist

>>20726975
>Hitler who forced his stupid ideologies on him
Hitler was the only good thing about Fascism.

>>20726924
Didn't he read Stirner? I wonder if it had any influence on fascism

>>20727020
Hitler ruined fascism, actually. Also, he wasn't a true fascist.

Siege by James Mason

>>20726924
Pretty sure Plato's Republic was a big influence over him.

>>20726977
An influence anon.

>>20726924

>>20727034
Hitler made it stand for something real and meaningful

>>20727034
Your right. Hitler was a national socialist.

>>20726924
His friend Harukichi Shimoi translated a lot of haikus, as did d'Annunzio, while Arturo Ferrarin (immortalized as a minor character in the Miyazaki anime Porco Rosso) went even further as the first European to make a direct flight to Tokyo.

Basically the fascists were a bunch of weebs and if Mussolini was alive today he'd have grown up reading Death Note.

>>20727919
I didn't know that, interesting.

>>20727294
This. I read his dialogue about going through Italy and it was written in a pastiche of Plato. His idea for a perfect fascist republic was trying to be Platonist (though the parts about tyranny being nearly the worst, but not as bad as democracy, might contradict fascism).

>>20726924
>What do you think he read that contributed to his ideology of Fascism?
Mostly Marxism and Sorel, I would guess.

>>20726924
Is that Aleister Crowley?

>>20727020
Hitler wasn't even a fascist. National Socialism was already a thing pre WW1 and the book which was the main inspiration for early party policy was published in 1919

>>20728616
Explain this one to me. Are you talking about the German conservative movement?

>>20728616
I don't really like this way of thinking about political philosophy and politics. Fascism and national socialism are manifestations of the same thing in different national contexts, a statist third way between liberalism and communism. Sure, they are marginally different things but they occupy the same space. To me it's like drawing a big line between say, social democrats and liberal democrats.

>>20728730
I feel it comes entirely out of a desire to be a fascist without dealing with the atrocities alleged to have been committed by National Socialism. Which-- you're still going to be tarred with those as an Italian style Fascist, because they're fundamentally a blood libel. Just say "don't care, not my problem" and step over it.
>>20728704
He probably means Rudolf Jung's book.

>>20728704
No, there were high tension in Austria-Hungary because Czechs started moving into rapidly industrializing German majority areas where they were basically cheap labour. This cause ethnic Unions to form of which the German formed the DAP in 1904 (although the formation started in 1903)

>>20728730
Obviously there are similarities especially in the ideas of strong state and the common good being put first. National Socialism however also has all the ideas like blood and soil, lebensraum as an natural expression of struggle and a strong focus on (mendelian) genetics. This was mostly worked out under Hitler with the Life laws which were seen as basic concepts of nature which any system that wanted to prevail and flourish had to adhere to.