/lit/ - Literature

About time we had a new thread

>>20709905
Here's scene one of my script. Sorry it took so long. I fell asleep, had to do some errands and edited it.
This is the opening of the episode with the main lead, her brother and her mom.
>Brother is lying down on the couch watching TV. A few seconds pass and Sister who just woke up walks in
>Brother "Hey, have you heard the news about Lake Ontario this morning?"
>Sister "Oh yeah I just woke up but yeah I heard all about it." She says sarcastically.
>There's a slight pause and silence as the two stare at each other.
>Sister "No, no I haven’t heard"
>Brother "Yeah some waste has been dumped into the Lake"
>Sister "What?! Put on the news!"
>Brother "Hold on, the best part of the episode is almost on."
>Sister "News! Now!"
>Brother "God, no patience today huh?" He says annoyed as he proceeds to change the channel.
>Anchorwoman "Live from Lake Ontario. A copious amount of waste and sludge has mysteriously appeared in our once clean waters"
>Sister runs upstairs to their mom's bedroom
>Brother "Hey wait! You’re missing what the politicians are saying about this! The waste that comes out of their mouths is almost as bad as the waste in the lake!" He says with a grin.
>Cut to Mom's bedroom, Sister slams open the door and Mom jumps out of bed
>Sister "Hey mom there’s waste being dumped in lake Ontario! We have to go there quick!" She says as fast as she can.
>Mom "Oh yay, we’re finally going on that vacation I’ve always wanted. Road trip!"
>Brother off screen "AAARGH!!"
It's still a work in progress but i hope you like it.
Also i decided to simply refer to the characters as "Brother" "Sister" and "Mom" for this post.
And sorry that i had to use greentext for this.

>>20714167
Indeed, that's the same anon. From the way he talks I think he's been more inspired this time, should be developing his style more.

Editorchad here offering his services to mortals once more. Message me with your manuscript and we can negotiate the price. My previous clients have been very pleased!

>>20714362
maat042@yahoo.com

>>20714362
Hey, are you the same Anon who offered to look at my cartoon script?
The progress is going great.

>>20714371
Yes, what do you have done so far? Feel free to send it to me in a Word document and I can enable track changes.

>>20714362
Massive cock, this lad. Very pleased with the size of his meat!

>>20714392
Thank you, the NSA. Very cool!

>>20714378
Well so far i have got four scenes and i posted the first scene here. >>20714353

>>20714404
Nice work anon.

Southern anon here. I'm starting 3rd Draft on a novel next week. Almost time to mail to beta readers. Now I see the light at the end of the tunnel.

>want to submit to unreal podcast for an interview maybe
>form asks for pronouns
>I'm actually a girl but they might think I'm a tranny and filter me

>>20714427
Really? Thanks. I'm gonna work my best on it. I'll email you once the full script is ready.

>>20714440
They seemed nice from the F Gardner episode. That’s pretty neat we now have a /wg/ podcast.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLfrpEAfB8

>>20714440
Do you mean to interview about your writing? Where is that form? I'd love to talk to them after I publish.

>>20714472
Yeah and they just chat in general
Listened to a few episodes while I was drawing last night and they seem chill
The form is on the about page on the YouTube channel, it's a Google sheet

>>20714459
I’ve actually been reading through Horror’s Call since listening to this. It’s honestly a really good horror series. At least so far. I’ll reserve total judgment till I finish all of the books. But so far it really does read like Goosebumps for adults.

(You) there, reading this post: do not quit.
You will be a writer.
You will make it.

>>20714513
Thank you. Yeah. I keep reminding myself this is true. If F Gardner can make it then we all can.

>>20714307
>The Rhetoric of Fiction
How is this one? I've read a few of the others, and they seemed a bit hit or miss to me

>>20714404
This should give you a brief idea of what I would do to your work

>>20714544
i have to go eat and only took a couple minutes but if you haven't you should watch the movies in robert mckee's story to learn how dialogue works

>>20714544
>>20714550
Hey thanks. I'll check out the movies and write the script like your example.

>>20714561
Yeah, just watch a few movies by David Mamet or Aaron Sorkin and it will come naturally. Cut all the extra words and make sure the characters in the scene are interacting with the environment as they argue

>>20714518
Don’t ruin another thread you cunt

>>20714518
F Gardner honestly inspired me to try to finish my own book.

In order to revive /ffa/, we’re joining /wg/ for those who want to practice writing and discussing flash fiction!

How it works:
1. Choose a prompt (full list of unused prompts in following post)
2. Write a story 1,000 words or less based on the prompt
3. Post it in /wg/ with the words "for FFA" somewhere
4. Add a new prompt for the list

Anyone posting for the /ffa/ accepts that their work may be made available online (Creative Commons) or in print (available for purchase at lowest possible cost).

There’s only the lightest editing (typos, etc) so garbage-in garbage-out. While there are not quality/content requirements (aside from porn, extreme abuse or gore) that doesn’t guarantee all submissions get added.

Prior three volumes available for free (pdf, epub):
https://archive.org/details/@_lit_anthology

And print (low cost) here:
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/anonymous-/gifts-evil-and-good/paperback/product-mgwkgv.html
https://www.lulu.com/en/ca/shop/anonymous-/rags-and-bones/paperback/product-9d7gp2.html
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/anonymous-/simian-deluxe/paperback/product-y6z687.html

>>20714667
>prompt list
A closet full of skin suits
A dating app with extraordinary risks and rewards
The academy of Paranormal Life Coaching
This will be India in 5 minutes
A grizzled detective goes undercover on 4chan
You reap what you sow
"Please don't forget what I told you"
The location the GPS took them to seems to be a little off
A tapestry constantly being added to
Murder in the Cathedral's sanctuary
The cellar houses wine and... bodies?
Finding a one-of-a-kind book in the library stacks
A co-worker has a hidden talent
A shut-in decides to go trick-or-treating
The best way to die on a dessert island
Horrible timing for a pregnancy announcement
A game of twister at a nursing home
There is a ship museum in Utah
A librarian goes blind every Thursday
Someone crashes a child’s birthday party
POV of an alley cat in Istanbul
An unusual item at the bottom of the sea
Pina coladas and long walks in the rain
A gateway opens between hell and earth
a slasher villain's first date
An elevator that doesn't work
A flooded castle, sinking into the mud
Why robot teachers were discontinued
A very lost succubus
Gender Selection Day
The whales save themselves
Elevators have been portals this entire time
Plants are proven to be sentient life forms
A minor god trying to prove its existence
Japanese ghost fish
What lives beneath the moss
An embarrassing phobia

Thanks to the anon who finished his flash fiction btw.

>>20714667
Do we at least get credit if it gets used?
I don't write for free.
Unless I feel like it.
But nobody gets credit for my work.
Unless I feel like it.

Anyway, someone hurry up and give me a prompt.

>>20714684
Authors remain anonymous by default, but you can get credit if you ask for it.

>>20714513
Thanks anon. I've found enough success in life already that I strongly believe in myself for this, even if it takes a lifetime.

>trying to find literary agent for high fantasy novel in Canada
>95% not looking for fantasy
>within the 5% who are, 4% are looking for YA only
>within the 1% left they have stipulations on not being interested unless you are an author of colour

It's going to have to go to the Amazon Kindle self-publishing arena where books go to die isn't it?

>>20714773
Why don't you look for agents in another country? Hell, I know some Americans that got published in the UK first.

>>20714798
I'll have to see if the agent markets are much different in the US or UK I suppose.

>>20714773
That's part of the business my dude. Agents aren't selling your work, they're selling you. If they go to a publisher saying, "Yeah we have this white twenty-something male fantasy writer from a stable middle class community with a normal upbringing" they're not even gonna be let in. They want books by authors that they can sell as tragedy redemption stories or as inspiring tales of women and minorities being just as good at writing as men.

This has been proven time and time again by male authors submitting works as female pseudonyms. No one's had the balls to make their name "Tyrone Washington" and claim they're a former gang member from Harlem writing poetry-laden epic fantasy. You KNOW publishers are fucking edging their dicks waiting for the cumblast session at being able to market "The Tolkien of the modern day".

Yeah, stick it in the Kindle graveyard.

>>20714667
>>20714675
Did you get my flash fiction in the last thread? The seven year old serial killer?

>caveat lector

>>20714940
>terrerre es

i had writing dialogue. dialogue is gay. i just want to write walls and walls of prose

>>20715003
lol *hate

>>20715003
Why not do that then?

>>20715003
Try it then; you don't have to "mark your characters' speech" — you can just report it. Could be fun, create an interesting atmosphere.

>>20714893
Sorry but it does not meet our standards and has been denied.

>Start a dozen different short stories or disparate chapters of a novel that can't be properly connected into a whole
>Never finish any of them
How do I fix this habit? The only pieces I can actually complete seem to be short poems. Every time I sit down to add a new chapter for my current work I write two pages then spend hours adding one or two sentences to all the other unfinished ones without ever drawing them together into anything cohesive.

>>20715082
I finish them and then to nothing with them. My Documents is full of shit that'll never see the light of day.

>"Holy..."

>>20715003
Have you read any Gaddis? He has so much fun with dialogue it's infectious. Two or three chapters in my book are 100% dialogue and it gives you so many neat ways to depict things, I love it.

>>20715036
You have standards?
Maybe I'll bother to write something, then.

>>20715082
I have this same problem. I thought I couldn't orchestrate some intracate story with all the details mapped out, so I wrote disparate paragraphs as you did.

I realize now I am past that, and the only way to progress is by making an outline. A simple outline. There is no structure in winging it. Have some semblance of a story, and the story will (hopefully) write itself.

>>20714573
>Yeah, just watch a few movies by David Mamet or Aaron Sorkin and it will come naturally.
What movies do you recommend?
>Cut all the extra words
Can you give an example?
>make sure the characters in the scene are interacting with the environment as they argue
Yes. I have lines with more environment interactions.

>>20714773
kek I'm a leaf too I know exactly what you're talking aboot

>https://www.transatlanticagency.com/about-us/agents/amanda-orozco/
>Unless written by an author of color, she is not the right agent for thrillers, mysteries, procedurals, space operas, or historical fiction, and she is not currently looking for children’s picture books.

Need those Indigenous space operas.

>>20715170
Wait, you didn't write it?

>>20715194
No, I did.

>>20714773
>>20715188
So how important is ethnic diversity? Heritage perhaps?

>>20715003
Read Jens Peter Jacobsen's works. Bunch of prose interweaved with short bits of dialouges. All of it beautiful and simple. See if you like his style.

Particulary, his short story "Mogens" is free on Gutenberg.

Is it weird that I struggle with writing insane characters? It's hard to explain, but my biggest fear is losing my mind. I struggle with mental illness, so getting into the mind of someone losing their's makes me somewhat uncomfortable.

Like, I struggled with delusions for a short period of time, but it was scary, so writing about a guy with delusions somewhat scares me. It's like this fear that the more I get into their mind, the more I'll become like them.

>>20714307
Anywhere I can do the needful and post my writings?

>>20715178
>What movies do you recommend?

Episodes of The West Wing, Glengarry Glen Ross, A Few Good Men, The Social Network.

>Can you give an example?

Writing should be fractal, like a tree. You start from a trunk (main idea) and branch out. Anything not necessary to the scene is dead wood. Look at the deleted scenes in Star Wars: A New Hope and think about why they were removed. They aren't pertinent to the overall structure of the movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDcy2HxCCsY

>Yes. I have lines with more environment interactions.

Think of writing like playing a game of Dungeons & Dragons by yourself. What would the characters do in a given situation? A character without a setting is not a character, because they wouldn't have any choices to make. One affects the other.

>>20715346
>Writing should be fractal, like a tree. You start from a trunk (main idea) and branch out. Anything not necessary to the scene is dead wood. Look at the deleted scenes in Star Wars: A New Hope and think about why they were removed. They aren't pertinent to the overall structure of the movie.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDcy2HxCCsY [Embed]
Yeah but that's not entirely relevant to writing novels. Movies have to have a more brisk structure than novels which is why so many movie adaptations have to cut massive amounts from their novels to adapt them. A book can have more extraneous content that fleshes out the characters, world, story, etc.

>>20715346
Don't forget Margin Call, the scene in the board room with Jeremy Irons is fantastic, as is the scene about the bridge at the end.

>>20714893
Don't listen to >>20715036, I've collected and accepted the submission.
>pic related

>>20715263
Not at all, I once wrote for roleplay and the character's progress towards a complete breakdown affected even someone with a stable state like me.

>>20714684
Fuck off Sponge. All you get is another dick down your throat.

>>20715346
Thanks. Although i don't quite get some of this stuff yet i'll try my best to wrap my head around it.
>>20715375
Well, my script is for a visual medium, more specifically a cartoon.
>>20715384
Thank you too.

>>20715462
Then yeah it's gotta be tight considering animation is expensive, although most things are flash animated now.

>>20715462
I have no idea how cartoon scripts are supposed to be formatted but I can still fix the dialogue and character development. Are you writing this as a spec script or did you somehow get a job writing a cartoon? If so that's pretty cool

>>20715263
Somewhat to normal people yeah. I struggle with it too. Instead, you might want to give acting in-character or reading aloud (as a performance)

It might help you feel better about yourself. Although professional actors and performers become highly absorbed in their role, it's usually pretty safe even if it's method/mimic acting. Heath Ledger was likely just a one-off, though his family denied method acting caused his death. Anyway, try it out!

>>20714675
>A very lost succubus
Claiming this one. I'll have it up by tomorrow night.

>>20715525
Noted. Feel free to post ITT (pastebin or otherwise)

>>20714675
Will be trying this one:
>A flooded castle, sinking into the mud

>>20714307
How can you tell if a passage is too sentimental/cloying, as opposed to emotional but natural?

>>20715496
Heath Ledger didn't kill himself retard.

>>20714307
>become self-conscious about the word “and” as well as adverbs in general
>can’t tell if neurotically avoiding them as much as possible is making it better or worse

>>20715570
Just read it and see if it's too sentimental/cloying, as opposed to emotional but natural.

>>20715573
He overdosed on drugs, hence why the rumors started. Hence why people claimed he lost his sanity due to method acting. Hello?

>>20714675
>The whales save themselves
fucking kek, the stuff I can do with this

>>20715586
But anon I have no taste

>>20715604
No one does. Just go with it.

>>20715462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhy7JUinlu0&ab_channel=Extractor

Here is the Margin Call scene, my god I love this movie.

What was the last interruption you got while writing? I saw large roach run into the room and try to get under my bookshelf and I grabbed the closest metal object and beat it to death. Need to spray around the house now.

>>20715600
He was overdosed on drugs.

>think my work offers nothing new
>at the same time think there's nothing else like it because if there was I wouldn't feel the need to write it in the first place
Fuck this

>>20715666
Something need not be new or special to have meaning, anon.

>>20714307
My nerves are made from the edges of paranoia. I feel on the verge of revelation and indifferent confusion every day and towards the end of the day, when the edges of the sky start to yawn, a vague fugue of disappointment collects around me for not getting closer to the eternal river and re-remembering its paths. It's almost like my head lolls around and skitters over shadows until I hunker down and thumb my soul down into an invisible distance and wait for words to come back from the pressure, as if I am a soul-braille reader and the blindness is merely redemptive to my own efforts and willingness to push, press, and blindly head-bash the nothingness at the edge of human thought until it speaks or I bleed. It's a type of slavery but I love. The insanity, or the near total isolation from my own broken thumbing, gets puts me into the shape of a useless maniac and I continuously jitter in uselessness, though not idleness but relative uselessness, and spend most of my time in half-thoughts hungover from the drunken festivals of thought. I am addicted to them, thoughts, and the Word of God, those quiet moments when you see half of God's finger print, His purpose, and almost the dimmest smile. I'm getting better at it. Closer. I am almost dead while being alive.

>>20715684
>My nerves are made from the edges of paranoia.

>>20715666
Just write to be honest. I was reading an interview with an author who got intimidated by the classics, but like that author you need to write believing that you see something a way that no one else sees it or say it in a way that no one else will say it.

>>20715693
thx

>>20715679
This desu. There's nothing new about basic bitch chocolate chip cookies but they have value and also yours could be better than someone else's.

>>20715666
Better to be the guy that wrote a shitty book than the guy that did nothing.

>>20715699
Yeah, I can easily see where my themes have come from so it's nothing new in a sense but the characters, conflicts they have and the history of the world is also something no other story has because it's my own. It's just like the chocolate chip cookies, everyone uses roughly the same ingredients but no one bakes them in the same way.

>>20715699
>food analogy
Everything you said rendered invalid.

>>20714307
Somehow my dry technical writing for work is 100x better and uses more advanced vocabulary and grammatical structures than my fiction.
I write specs at a college reading level and stories at a middle school level.
It’s a curse.

>>20715729
>being so edgy you hate food

>>20715699
>food analogy
everything you've said is far more valid now.

>look at Book covers
>Everything is YA fantasy trash
>Or random hot woman looking at reader
Why do all these covers look the same?

>>20715755
Market research.

>>20715755
That's what sells.

>>20714773
just lie and say your story is a critique/analogy for capitalism/nationalism/racism/religion and they'll eat it up

>>20715761
Proof?

>>20715755
Just grab some chalk and draw your own covers like F Gardner.

>>20715777
Gardner honestly has very good covers

>>20715777
Or just like kys.

>>20715785
I really like this one.

>>20715785
I'll give him that much, at least. I really do like the covers

>>20715785
>>20715792
Oh hey look everybody it's F Gardner.

>>20715789
I’ve never even seen that one. Kino.

>>20715804
Can you tell us a little bit about your next book Mr. Gardner?

>>20714513
I had a bad day of writing today. Thanks, Anon. I'll keep my chin up.

>>20715821
He wasn't talking to you.

>>20715813
I don't want to spoil it too much, but let's just say the twist is an eye opener after a long, long night.

>>20715813
Oh-hohoho! I’m glad you asked! My next epic tale of horror will be called Call of the Holocaust. A fictional tale which never happened. But it SHOULD’VE!

>>20715693
>>20715729
>>20715827
seethe
demotivational failed-crab pseud

>>20715785
This is the one thing I'll complement him on. They have a recognizable brand, aren't over simplified like most modern books, and are remarkably intruiging.

>>20714773
>find agent who's interested in agenting my sort of stuff
>except they stipulate they'll only agent it if it's "accessible" so that anyone could pick up and read it easily
>meaning retarded

>>20715755
I’m looking forward to a trend of DALL-E-alike generated covers that become extremely tacky looking within ten years.

>>20715857
>>meaning retarded
Wait so what's the problem?

Of course Boswell is here to jump to the defence of shit writing.

>>20715843
The samefagging bit is getting ridiculous Frank.

>>20715789
>>20715792
>>20715843
>>20715843
My favorite is the one with the baby covered in fire. That’s the only other one I read other than Croc. I liked the cover a lot more after reading it. Because the story is about the same kid from Croc but when he’s a baby. The cover is like that because there’s a leprechaun trying to burn down Chicago. So the baby is like in constant fear of it in the story. It was metal as fuck. The book started off with the kids mom getting set on fire by the leprechaun while she’s walking the kid in his stroller. It kind of becomes a clusterfuck toward the end with all the wacky Gardner twists. But it had some creepy imagery. The baby in the book also has the most ridiculous plot armor I have ever seen in all of literature. There is actually a scene where the kid eats a bottle of steroids and beats up the leprechaun. I couldn’t fuckin believe what I was reading.

>>20715889
Sounds amazing.

>>20715889
>. There is actually a scene where the kid eats a bottle of steroids and beats up the leprechaun
kino, KINO!
>t. F Gardner

>>20715889
Sounds unironically based and enjoyable.

>>20715889
Retarded. But I kind of want to ironically read some Gardner books now.

>>20715898
>>20715906
Thanks for weighing in yet again F.

>The post was read by the Anonymous user.

>Setting is a world where in actuality all life has perished and every world since then is only an imitation of the first

>>20715889
>There is actually a scene where the kid eats a bottle of steroids and beats up the leprechaun

Kek. Thanks for reminding me how insane Gardner’s books get. I need to get around to reading more of them.

>>20715911
>the Anonymous user
Guess it makes sense since everyone else ITT is literally just F Gardner stroking his own tiny schizophrenic cock.

>>20715929

But sir that is fake news. Gardner has a huge cock.

>t. F. Gardner’s girlfriend (male)

>>20715929
Shut up Boswell. Stop being jealous.

>>20711209
>Also, what's the significance of the lamp?
That's a surprise tool that'll help us later. Nah but, basically when anyone ends up in Remoria, the candle they come with is the remainder of their soul. Aka the amount of life they should have lived before they would have died naturally. Once that's gone in Remoria, you keep right on living without a soul, joy or purpose. End result is that people either degrade into a form of madness or take themselves out.
>>20712583
No man, that's good advice. Immediacy is a natural hook and a better idea than just writing the first thing that hopped in my brain. That actually gives me a good idea toward the way I can adjust it.

>>20715948
Joke's on you fag not even F Gardner has seen F Gardner's penis.

>>20715918
Which Gardner book is that?

Why does Boswell hate Frank so much?

>>20715957
Same anon who asked about the lamp, thanks for the explanation. I agree with what the other guy said, your setting is interesting but the way we actually see it through the eyes of your characters is far more passive in comparison and in my opinion you might be able to create immediacy from the mass suicide you wrote there.

>>20715965
Why do you still post on 4chan Frank? I thought you made it?

>>20715965
I think Boswell is like the “Newman” to F Gardner’s “Jerry.”

>>20715965
Jealously. Boswell is always going on about “crabs in a bucket” but does nothing but crab Gardner all day long.

>the burning fire
>the freezing winter
>the blackest night

>>20715989
Lmao. Even the name Boswell sounds like the type of name you’d give a character that’s irritating.

>>20715968
Dang, now that I think about it, it's incredible that I missed that. Also, I think it was you who said earlier that you were excited to find another fantasy guy on here. Aren't there scifi fantasy writers all in abounds here? It's been awhile since I've come here daily but surely the dynamics haven't changed that quickly since crit thread days.

>>20715989
>F Gardner’s “Jerry”

>>20715989
This post kills me. Lost it.

>>20716016
Same person, yeah. I meant that what you wrote is more in line with something I enjoy seeing because my world is similarly bleak (Though people have forgotten that truth in my story and it's about to unravel at the seams).
>Dang, now that I think about it, it's incredible that I missed that.
Not really. From your perspective it might have been easier to think of your initial characters as people who have seen everything but for us readers we might want to get closer to that scene because we've never witnessed it.

>>20716049
You lost it a long time ago Gardner.

>>20716052
Hello Boswell

>>20716058
Hey Gardner. Since I've got you here why don't you answer >>20715983

Who the fuck is Boswell?

>>20716066
F Gardner's alter ego.

>>20716065
Ask>>20715834

>>20716074
I'm asking you Frank.

>>20716079
Gonna have to find another guy to larp as the meme man for you, mate.

>>20716089
You're the only other person here F.

For FFA: A minor god trying to prove its existence.
New prompt: A lie is taken seriously, with far worse consequences than the truth.

Battesh sat by himself at the counter in the diner, glumly eating his lunch. Behind him was the bustle of the usual mid-day crowd – office workers, mothers with small children, and young people on dates. Their boisterous conversations blended together in his head, becoming a single exuberant outpouring, almost a song of pure joy. Still, it seemed to wash over him and leave him unaffected. People avoided him intuitively; they couldn't put their finger on it, but they could sense something was wrong with him, something unsettling. It never changed. He sighed and attempted to focus on his food.

A loud crash shook him from his reverie; the sudden juvenile caterwauling shattered his nerves. He turned to look at the revolving pie display case, now laying on its side, a small child trapped under it. Several patrons surrounded the case and tried to lift it off her, but to no avail; it was simply too heavy, and the glass curves made gripping it difficult. Battesh smiled to himself; this was a perfect opportunity! He closed his eyes and concentrated.

The volume of skittering noises increased; the restaurant patrons screamed as they watched the flood of cockroaches cover the floor. They headed toward the pie case and scurried underneath it. A moment later, it started to rise; a column of cockroaches lifted the case off the child and stood it upright, completely undamaged, though the pies inside had spilled and mixed together, a total loss.

Battesh suddenly jumped to his feet. "Wow, that was incredible! Let's hear it for the cockroaches!" But he could hardly be heard over the din of terrified customers running out the door. The little girl looked around in confusion, then got up and headed outside, screaming for her mommy. His shoulders slumped as he gave the cockroaches a furtive glance; they ran out the door and disappeared into a nearby storm drain.

The waitress rang up his bill as she groused about all the customers that left without paying. He hurried to his truck, turning around once to look at the chaotic disaster the restaurant had become. He sighed as he got in and drove to his next job.

It was a small house in a run-down neighborhood; it had the usual assortment of broken windows and scattered piles of junk. Battesh grabbed his spray can and walked up to the front door, calling his employer's name. The lady of the house greeted him warmly; a young boy shyly hid behind her. They accompanied him during his walkthrough. It took no time to assess the problem; the cockroaches had spread into every corner of the little abode. Hardly any part of it remained uninfested.

He smiled, pumped up his spray can, and waved around the wand as he depressed the trigger. A fine mist of liquid billowed forth like a cloud; as it hit the cockroaches, they bolted, rushing outside as quickly as they could.

Kind of sad the most successful writer that's posted here is the call of the crocodile clown

>>20716110
>past tense
Nobody's buying it Gardner.

>>20716107
"That's amazing!" the lady guffawed. "What are you spraying?"
"A special mix of all-natural ingredients," he explained. "It's completely harmless to humans, but cockroaches can't stand it. They'll be out of your house in no time."
She sniffed the air. "Smells sort of minty."
Battesh nodded. "Mint is one of the ingredients; so is eucalyptus. Just watch; your house will be cleared in no time."
True to his word, ten minutes later, after a thorough traversal, there was no sign of any infestation. "Thank you!" she cheered. "You're the best exterminator ever! I'm going to tell everyone about your company!"
"My boss would surely appreciate that, ma'am," he drawled. That brought forth a laugh.
Battesh secured his spray can and prepared to leave. He looked up to see the little boy staring at him, mouth hung open.
"Are you OK?" he asked. "Can I help you?"
"That spray didn't do anything, did it?"
Battesh froze. "What do you mean? It made the cockroaches go away, didn't it?"
"No, I think you did that all by yourself." The little boy beheld him with adoring eyes. "I've heard of you before."
Battesh perused him nervously. "Oh? Who am I?"
His eyes burned with revelation. "You're the Cockroach God."
"Well, not really," Battesh demurred, chuckling. "More of a saint. But yeah, the cockroaches do what I tell them."
The little boy clasped his hands together in a respectful pose. "I want to come with you. Serve at your side. Learn your ways."
Battesh smiled. "That'd be great! I've always wanted an acolyte. Someone I could pass this gift to."
The little boy beamed with joy. "I'd be honored."
"Andre!" the lady suddenly shouted. "Stop bothering that man and get over here."
His eyes washed over with sadness. "I have to go," he mumbled before toddling off.
Battesh sighed heavily as he watched Andre leave. With a lump in his throat, he returned to his truck and drove away.
A cockroach flew in through his window and alighted on the dashboard. Battesh glanced at it and smiled sadly. "I'm trying to share my gift," he explained. "Show everyone the wonders of cockroaches, and how mankind should be grateful for you." He grimaced in anguish before continuing. "But it's just not working out! I don't think I'll ever find my place."
He slowly became aware of thudding music; he saw a car prowling down the road, masked men inside. His eyes grew wide as he saw them ready their guns. He was witnessing a drive-by shooting in progress! Quickly, his brow furrowed as he concentrated on a nearby storm drain. A moment later, a swarm of cockroaches emerged, quickly inundating the hoodlums's car. He heard some scattered shouting, then the car's tires suddenly peeled out, and it lurched forward haphazardly, crashing clumsily into a concrete light standard. Its passengers leaped out and ran in all directions, screaming and trying to brush the cockroaches off of them.
Battesh smiled to himself. All at once, he realized how he would make a name for himself.

>>20716107
>His 'hook' is a name
Stopped reading.

>>20715879
>>20715929
>>20715965
>>20715996
I literally made none of these posts being attributed to me.
I have no idea why I'm even being associated with them.
Someone here has hit peak schizo.

>>20716110
Well at the rate I’m going it’ll be resolved in 2-5 years.

>>20716122
>Someone here has hit peak schizo.
And that someone is F Gardner.

>>20716118
Blattesh is an allusion to the order Blattodea (i.e. cockroaches).

>>20716113
>guffawed
>explained
>cheered
>drawled
>asked
>perused
>demurred
>shouted
Jesus Christ. Did Boswell write this?

>>20716127
Has F. Gardner been the seething pseud all along?
On the one hand, that would make sense; there are a lot of similarities between the seething pseud's spewing, and Gardner's writing style.
On the other hand...why would he bother?

>>20716110
Where do you think we are? Of course a fat retarded flat earther is the most successful among us. Welcome to clown world.

>>20716135
He's a flat earther?

>>20716131
>On the other hand...why would he bother?
Ironic attention on 4chan is literally all Gardner has to look forward to.

>>20716131
It’s Boswell. In the last thread it was revealed that he made a Goodreads alt to rate his book high and subsequently rate Gardner’s book low. Then he proceeded to samefag here in an attempt to build F Gardner tier infamy for himself. I guess it’s sort of working for him? This feels like a soap opera desu

>>20715755
you forget, it's all now a brunette white woman that's walking away from the shot. Like that one picture of that girl grabbing that guy's hand.

>>20716139
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLfrpEAfB8

He sure is. Skip to around halfway through.

>>20716140
Thats darker than anything he’s ever written.
>>20716135
Hey now. Don’t be fatphobic.

>>20716135
Don’t forget “homosexual.”

>>20716153
How much could it possibly cost to scam a book into the NYT list with buying it yourself?

>>20716164
Darker than the walking pile of dead babies in Call of the Crocodile? Don’t tell me that chapter didn’t given you heckin nightmares for weeks! Bravo, Gardner.

>>20716164
The real stuff is the scariest.

Write that down Frank.

Reminder that Gardner wrote a book about himself and that Butterfly and Waldun are in it.

>>20716179
I don’t have to read it to know it’s bad.

>>20716189
>Reminder that Gardner wrote a book about himself
He's written like 11 by last count.

>>20716193
That was sarcasm.
>>20716189
Oh I’m aware. One of his books is also a Pokémon ripoff.

>>20716150
I am not the Goodreads guy that reviewed my book.
That's just schizo.
I also don't (knowingly) have anything against Gardner...unless that's really him spamming constantly and attributing random anons to me.
I wasn't even aware he was still here.
In any case, I'm going to bed.

>>20716198
Yeah but he self inserted like Dante in that one.

>>20716201
That would be hilarious if that turned out to be true. Can one of the people claiming to know Gardner on discord tell him to come here? Or just post the invite.

>>20716208
He's here right now retard.

>>20716209
I know that’s the meme. But I have no way of knowing if that’s true.

>>20716209
So, who’s posting in all the other Gardner discussions? Does Gardner have clones of himself? This is the only way your conspiracy makes sense.

>>20716216
>all the other Gardner discussions
Good one Gardner.

>>20716220
>not knowing how to search the catalog

>>20716222
>Falling for the old "made you look"
Not going to happen Frank.

>/wg/ has turned into an F. Gardner general
I hope you lads are at least getting some writing done inbetween shitposts

>>20716230
It's easy when your writing is just copy and pasted shitposts.

>>20716233
Eh his books are more like creepypastas. Other than Waldun I don’t even remember any memes in them.

>>20716248
>I don’t even remember any memes in them.
That's because you've never read them, like everyone else here.

>>20716230
There really needs to just be a Gardner General as a containment for this shit. It’s been like this for years now.

>>20716251
This is a writing general, not a reading general.

>>20716251
Name them then.

No one would be talking about Gardner if Boswell didn't try to tear him down while reviewing himself.

>>20716255
Chill bro. Gardner can't do either and he still gets to post here.

>>20716259
What part of "everyone else here" did you not understand?

>>20715684
I like it, anon. Good choice of words and interesting.

Hey guys, have you been advertising?

>>20716280
This thread is bad enough already. Go away.

>>20716230
This is all inspiration for my novel about F. Gardner. I'm getting mad writing done here.

>>20716286
Graffiti isn't really writing Jamal.

Why does everyone think Boswell reviewed himself? That review was really long

>>20716287
Yes it is so.

>>20716290
Who is Bowell and what are you talking about.
Give me the tldr of the drama fren.

>>20716286
I would unironically read that.
>>20716290
Because it’s really funny. Same with accusing other anons of being Gardner.

>>20716286
WHO THE FUCK IS F. GARDNER

Finna bouta hit 1,000 subscribers on substack. Wez all gunna make it cuz

>>20716311
The schizo who wrote Call of the Crocodile.

>>20716311
See >>20716135

>>20716290
Because no one else would read Boswell's book.

>>20716311
That's FaGtardner to you.

>>20716337
You're projecting Frank.

>>20716135
This is the most painfully true thing I’ve ever seen posted here.

>>20716345
Thousands of people have read Gardner's books.
Only one person has read Boswell's, and he only did so in order to review it.
Cope more crabswell.

>>20716349
>Thousands of people have read Gardner's books.
Prove it Gardner.

new and improved hot stupid shit from the press
https://pastebin.com/2QXhCAti

>>20714459
>influence from goosebumps

>>20716430
Wait till you get to the recommendations. It's like 3rd grade me. Just not as as good a writer obviously.

>>20716424
wombo is neat, I like the ability to provide it a reference picture
I can block out a shitty scene in Paint and get a passable impressionist illustration/cover

>>20715188
>She is particularly drawn to stories from Asian and Latinx
>Latinx
THIS is an agent? Holy shit the bar is low

Day 40 editing.
Chapter 46 freshly re-cut.
Closer brothers and sisters.
Day by day.
Closer.

Fuck, I've hit a snag in laying out the plot for a story. I have the absolute beginning, the rough direction I'd like it to go, and the intended tone but outside of that, nothing. Any tips to power through?

>>20716546
Think of F Gardner. No really. He did it. This means you can.

>>20714440
I fantasize about killing and raping wonen

>>20716546
Sounds like you need to think of something then. I'd know because that's my problem too, there's a thing that's supposed to exist between point A and point Z and if your beginning is as solid as you say point B should come with some brainstorming.

>>20716558
Given the amount of faggotry surrounding him in recent threads, I'd rather not.
>>20716584
The issue is that my usual brainstorming technique, 'what is the least likely thing to happen next', is drawing blanks too.

>>20716602
Oh, that sounds like a problem. Surely your characters have some kind of objective that can lead to problems though? My issue is that my protagonists have to travel across a battlefield and they manage it with some difficulty, but then the really daunting part comes because the history of the northern part of my story is vague compared to the south and all of it is supposed to be important.

How does this paragraph make you feel?
>She put fruit on her platter and kept it there for weeks, letting it rot and grow haggard, as if she took pleasure in displaying the grotesque. She then, once they were bad enough, scraped it all into a box which she bathed in ice until there were no more bugs wandering around. Then the concoction was placed back onto the platter. This process, after time, formed a mound of dust-like rot, with new, more fresh fruit placed on top, ready for the next harvest.

>>20716612
Why the hell is she doing that?

>>20716611
The issue is the objective is simple enough - getting to dinner on time. Maybe I could use this to explore my setting more?

>>20716629
Possibly. You said that you tend to think of what's least likely to happen so maybe you can have something absurd in your setting happening at this time.

>>20714362
I will pay you in a Genshin Impact reroll.
You're a weeb with a gambling addiction. I know you can't resist such an enticing offer.

>>20716618
She’s sick. She has some sort of allurement to biological decay.

>>20716640
Huh, this might be one of the few times that my weirdo tendencies can come in handy. Anyway, I think your prose lacks fascination and detail because she seems to be doing this too mechanically with seemingly little note regarding the smell or changes the fruit has when it decays. I see flattened rats sometimes and even once walked by a dead cat for a week, noting how its skeleton got exposed as it rotted away so you want to give some thought to the morbidity of such a process.

>>20716659
Huh. That’s very helpful. Thanks for that insight, anon, I’ll revise it and focus on that.

>>20716678
You're welcome. The principle I go by is that you can give a voice to your character by directing focus, because as we all know most normal people don't waste fruit or like seeing rotten things. Some narrative on her thought process goes a long way too; what does she think of as she places more fruit on top of the rotting pile she's cultivated? Maybe you can add some stark contrast here by comparing her to a gardener, where she celebrates death and decay where a gardener would consider that to be a failing.

>One should save his questions until the end.

>In everyday language, generic you is often used instead of one:

>You should save your questions until the end.

im writing a guide to life, im earnestly asking as many of you to ask questions about it, questions you'd like to see from a literal 'cover all guide to life' meant to replace religions

im at a bit of a writers block, setting up the format of the total thing but i dont think people would be totally interested in a flippant rundown of every major religion and their flaws to start

anything, really.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YZ2VhS-8wIiKG-PXkprBpPnGv1J7fRRr/
this is literally a skeleton base of what im going to write

please give honest criticism, even if it's just to shoot down the idea
everything helps

>>20715655
Sometimes when I'm writing, I'll have my blinds open, an occasionally a woman with a nice rear end will pass by

>>20715699
>food analogy
I have not eaten in months

>>20715995
>the cuckest cuck

>>20716915
The sheer content alone has me interested. But I will not read this now, as I have awoken from slumber on my floor, and I will be going back to sleep. Sometime throughout the day, however, I will come back go this and give some of my thoughts. For now, have this image.

Is there anything in your story that might provoke some readers? I don't get preachy but by virtue of writing a religious end-time scenario I think it might make more dogmatic eschatologists a little upset. I'm at least trying to make room for the possibility of different views on the Rapture which is I think what gets people the most. The question of election I think is a bigger point that I hope people will argue with each other about.

>>20717048
I wouldn't worry about it. You'll be lucky if you find two dozen people willing to read your writing so it's unlikely to ever be an issue.

>>20717048
you have to be prepared to provoke people, but it has to have a purpose and not just an outright attack

why care about the dogmatic eschatologists? if they give your book attention then you've won, what are they going to do, stop others from reading it?

>>20717066
No I mean provocation is the point but it's not an outright attack, just a challenge on three fronts between the main characters. I am not firmly standing behind one idea in the book but I'm writing it to provoke people to talk about it. Most of the time I hear people talk about end-time war and death and no one has anything to say about the peace when the peace I think is more interesting in its subtlety.
Those dogmatic readers are the kinds of people I think would be the most passionate about it from the alpha reading I've got because that is their entire spiritual life. For the secular humanist and the pessimist there is something for them too, but I can ever get a decent readership and there is discussion then it may be primarily religious readers giving their opinion.

wow these reviews are great

I wrote my first draft quite quickly, with my internal editor mostly shut as I was merely writing the story through. Now that, after some weeks of keeping my distance to the work, I came back to do a read through making notes, I can see there is so much cringeworthy stuff here, and noticing it I tell myself, good job. Not because I have written cringe, but because I notice cringe for what it is. There are so many people who self-publish (I will never self-publish, even if I am never accepted for trad-pub) and they could never tell if their works were cringe.

>>20717194
Boswell is at it again I see. Maybe if you give Frank another 1* people will stop reading his work and start reading yours.

No one in /wg/ has been traditionally published.
>But I don't even want to.
You lie, you sent your manuscript to few agents, got rejected and now you hate trad pub.

>>20717215
>Boswell
no idea who this is and I found out about call of the crocodile in this thread, like 10 minutes ago. Take your meds

>>20717230
Okay Boswell. Just a coincidence. I'm sure.

>>20717194
>Formerly
Gold. Solid gold.

>>20717223
I will be. Just you wait. 87k words deep. By September I'll be ready to start sending it out, and you'll see!

>>20716279
Thank you fren :)

>>20716260
>>20716290
Not that this really needs to be said, but...I obviously didn't review my own book.
Gardner (or whoever is pretending to be him) is apparently upset that the Goodreads reviewer gave my book 4 stars and his 1 star.
This led to him somehow imagining I'm the reviewer, and that I'm part of some sort of conspiracy against him.
Sorry, but that's just schizo.
I mean, would I really criticize my own use of dialog tags?
Or mistake Skeeter (a small town) with Millenniaburg (a large city)?
Or point out a typo in my book (i.e. Brain -> Brian) that I didn't know about already?
Of course not.
The whole basis of this seething is quite literally insane.
I also didn't stay up all night just to hurt Gardner-LARPer's feelings... as I said here >>20716201 I went to bed.

>>20717223
I will.

>>20717330
/lit/ beef.
Where's the popcorn?

>>20717206
Good jerb. You are overcoming the inertia. It's better to write a lot of cringe that you can edit than to stare at a blank page. It helps you find the nuances of what you want and dont want by laying all the ideas out.

>>20716915
still need more questions or considerations. any at all

think about all the children that grew up without stable guidance and plenty. i know you'll flippantly disregard them but then just think of yourselves or your own

lets not have your kids need to be protected by beaner cops

>>20716915
The answers are stupidly vague, and I really hope you format the guide much better with proper citation links instead of just copying the URL.

Im also curious how much life experience do you have? Because it's as stupid as all the "college" bashers today. Blah blah blah one doesn't need university because look at how much it costs blah blah blah.

Yet if they actually looked at the statistics, university debt is still averaging only 30k. You're telling me it's not worth potentially earning 60-70k and easier promotions in a corporate setting for 30k when you have easily 8 years to pay it off? It's bad advice and the author wants to spew shit.

>>20717426
Then these same person tell you to start your own business. So it's okay to risk 600k with a 85% failure rate but not okay for a 30k risk with 0% failure rate?

>>20714667
Oh nice is this similar to the /tg/ thread? I've had some fun over there but it's not as active as it used to be.

>>20716639
i would work for dota plus and magic cards desu

I still can't decide if I want to have an open setting or a closed setting for my story, i.e. if the world and worldbuilding and lore exist as a backdrop for the story and imply other things are going on, or if the entire lore exists solely for the main plot, everything leads back to it, and it gets "solved" by the end.

>>20717451
Nobody knows but you

>>20717451
just write some good characters and throw obstacles in their way

>>20717223
Lmao, wanting to only make 7% of the profit of your own book.
You’re a well trained slave for loving your master’s beating hand.
Funny cope though.

>>20716915
How old are you and have you honestly actually read all the books you cite in this from cover to cover?

It just feels like a firehose of various suggestions - focusing on fewer but more detailed topic areas might be more helpful. And since this is so reliant on links it may actually make more sense as a series of blog posts.

>>20715478
I hope the art style i envision for it isn't too expensive.
>>20715479
It's a spec but if it goes well then i have a chance to get a full paid job.
>>20715643
Thank you.

Only 122 words last night. But it is infinitely bigger than 0 words. I'm aiming to get more done this weekend along with two flash fictions, one for 4chan and one for my website. We are writing ourselves to victory, bros.

>>20717528
ive recently turned 30. yes ive read all the books except the cooking chemistry one

it is quite all over the place, in previous posts i did mention that i already had a website and blog posts in mind and that the various suggestions will be fleshed out in the future

thank you so much for the feedback. i should be presenting something more cohesive instead of asking people to review an incomplete skeleton.

do you have anything that you would like to see in a guide like this?

>>20717554
Topics
>How to get a girl to like you.

>>20717580
>'fill a void'
>figuratively, literally

they actively want fun and reassurance of safety/future
learn to emulate or guarantee those things and you're in

the better you can present yourself to fit their tastes, the better you'll do
lovebombing works insofar that you are adequate enough to begin with.

subtext is crucial. your 'story' is the overriding narrative in her mind

>>20714307
Where and how do I find literary agents?

>>20717580
thanks for asking, i really do need more questions to get me going
the process of creating content and refining can be so tedious

i extend to you all, a better world, all with your help.

Which /wg/ book is the best book?

https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/

never used it, but supposedly it's where all the agent data is
it costs money, but they have a $10 for a month deal
you can probably find a lot of agents by doing a google search

>>20716915
>You could also get your CDL license and do truck stuff.
Been there, done that. Got pretty boring.

>>20717554
So here is a question. At 30 years old what makes you uniquely qualified to help others find enlightenment? Do you think you are actually capable or is it that you are looking for the answers for yourself and this project is an avenue for your own journey?

I'll give you an easy answer, if you are indeed looking for one. If you are single, get un-single. In the fabulous year of 2022 people are really confused about how important that actually is.

>>20717599
ManuscriptWishList
QueryTracker

>>20717536
I will help you with the writing, characters, plot, dialogue, etc. for a nominal fee, but you'll have to figure out the proper formatting for a cartoon yourself. I don't even know what agency decides the standards for that shit. Keep me posted!

>>20717685
>nonfiction topics for my book/blog. modern doctrines for the aimless non-believer (or disillusioned follower)

>at first i wanted to just explain what i went through, the suffering i experienced and what i understand of the human mind and will.
>then, while coping with the passing of my dog, and the announcement of neuralink, the possible futures of humanity and a possible digital afterlife as a techno-cope for the neo-human.
>thinking these were all plausible ideas and that determinism has no recourse, i considered that this might not be a bad basis for a cope written by a former high iq winner who can distill physical, emotional and spiritual pain for the average person and anyone who doesnt have time to just think

>so it went from a self-help guide to get ahead, to schizo beliefs and then made the jump to modern age doctrines for how to live life in the attempt to either normalize your behaviour and situation or accelerate your development in life through high iq advanced techniques or concepts

>the goal isn't even money, i dont even know how ill manage to make tonnes of money from this in the end. the goal is to accelerate the world to become more efficient, effective, less cruel and senseless with less false justice handed out

>i figure i can just amass youtube links and tutorials online until something cohesive manifests and i can begin using funds to research and disseminate these ideas until we can all agree on my vision of reality. heh
but really, less suffering, more wisdom. breed until the ubermensch

yes i believe i am capable, though not the most capable. in that sense i believe i have given it the most thought amongst my peers on abstract endeavors such as meaning and will.
i am looking for answers but nothing that i believe will satisfy me. my purposes are wholly to see the world in a better place, if i can profit from it then i will take my chance at it but not overindulge because again, better world.

as to your advice, at 25, i had gone from a fat lonely sack to a near modelesque peak of human aesthetic. i was intelligent, lively, effervescent, strikingly good looking. excelled (though with nowhere near the top ability of humans, though overall exceptional) at basically everything i did. my interactions with women were beautifully and gracefully blessed, beauty and intelligence but only ever passing (ive only had 1 ons) but otherwise frequent enough for me to start to 'get' women. (did you see my post earlier? can you judge me on that as well please ty)
then at 27 i pissed off my neighbours, cops were called and i was dosed with an antipsychotic. gained weight, lost iq and memory, everything hurt and my life spiralled downhill so quickly and so painfully that i was contepmlating and working toward suicide everyday (ive got anti-emetic pills among other things etc etc)

there are still details missing from the story above and it doesnt make the narrative as easy to piece together but

>>20716355
The piece of shit has been samefagging shilling his shit here for ages and the grand total of sales and reviews he has on amazon is about five people. And the mods are going to let him continue to ruin every single thread.

>>20717725
>>20717685
>on top of the world
>hit rock bottom
>coped my way out of suicide (not that i ever had that kind of will i guess)
>realised i had it all, working towards nothing but superegoistic happiness now

nobody else has tried something like this in a while, feel like it's my turn to step up and teach people about what it means to live a life feeling no dopamine and what it means to continue after pointlessly shattering loss etc

am here for help because humble enough to realise concerns like yours are more than valid. just offering my piece of luck to this slowly dying world

>>20717736
sorry about the rambling i missed the part about, not in a place for a gf, lost value. know what it's like to have fun with them, dont know what a relationship is like except with my mother to exist and until im financially and mentally well off again will i look for another 9-10/10 woman for me
my standards are high, im not worth it but i know what it's like to taste the sky

sorry about the rambling. im not reviewing my posts

>>20717685
Why do you think becoming un-single is this important?

>>20717681
>top listed book they are promoting
Trad pub bros, I don't feel so good

>>20717599
You can also just read the dedication/special thanks of similar books to yours (freely viewable on amazon) which usually thank their agent by name so you can research their individual details.

Is the grounded feel of low fantasy immediately ruined by bringing up metaphysics of the world?

>>20716107
>>20716113
Received, thanks for contributing.
>>20715525
>>20715553
>>20715602
Noted.

>>20717814
not necessarily, but if the reader intuits that you're writing something in service of showing off your world rather than advancing the story then they'll be annoyed

>>20717744
>my standards are high
That's your biggest problem there.

But, from everything else you've posted I get the sense your life has had massive ups and downs which leads me to the idea you are probably bi-polar. Or, you started messing with coke or steroids.

Am I in the ballpark with that?

And I'm not trying to insult you, though it may come off that way, so I apologize if it does. I've had a pretty crazy life too, probably in the middle of a manic episode myself at the moment, but I think I've learned to cope with swings.

>>20717795
Lots a reason. And by I un-singe I mean un-single with someone who improves you, not detracts from you. Also, you have to improve your partner, and want to be positive for them as well. You can't be selfish or base it entirely on sex.

Some benefits of a good relationship,
Stability.
The fact humans are social animals, we need partnership whether we realize it or not.
Accountability, I make less bad decisions if I know it will upset my partner.
And, sex is kind of important too. Jacking off feels pretty pathetic sometimes. Lowers your self-esteem.
If you're looking for the most amazing sex with the hottest chick all the time then you are chasing a dragon, that's not good.

>>20717846
weed at most
got hacked and went super paranoid and angry
harassed by people who posted ads of gay adverts of a fake me, real number

i get mostly what i want anyway, like i said, until i fell from my grace, i was overly enthusiastic about my chances and future regarding women
i appreciate your sentiments and otherwise you're right. but i cant afford to let my single life be bogged down by some woman i cant fully respect.
if i were dealt another hand at life i would have everything already. (i was that confident, i was fearless. totally unaware of my mortality). my life was on a high for a long time

anything else you'd like to know or take a gander at? i love the psych guessing game myself, part of the reason why i thought i could help people, basic conceptions of condition, feedback cycles and attachment/trauma theory.

i could guess an asocial loner from a desperate plea away

>>20717872
>chick
Or whatever your sexual preference is.

>>20717878
Alright, if I'm doing some psych guessing.... but, all I'm really doing is thinking of someone you remind me of.

But, you are probably an all or nothing kind of guy. If you ever worked a commission job, or something that was not a flat hourly rate but based on performance and/or luck, I imagine the good days were overshadowed by the AMAZING days, and the bad days were met with anger and/or depression, maybe a sense that you were cheated.
So basically, you expected life to give you the best and would feel something was wrong when life came up short of that.

You are not someone who can appreciate "slow and steady"

I'm assuming the altercation with your neighbor didn't just happen one day, there was probably a lot building up inside you until that moment being when things finally took a turn downward. It's not normal to get prescribed anti-psychotics over an isolated incident, and if you were indeed going manic at the time it probably felt to you that nothing was amiss until the moment you were getting arrested.

I'm guessing you are currently off your meds, or no longer taking them as prescribed.

>>20717950
Yes i like to think I’m a pedal to the metal kind of guy, still on the meds, monthly injections so I’m never off this shit. It’s like i said now, superegoistic motivations and happiness. Practised constant positivity and motivation for 10 years now because of reaching goal issues. Now just dealing with no dopamine in all activities, can you imagine?

I spent a long time at rock bottom, in and out of hospitals coping with horrifying pain.
To deal with anhedonia i took experimental drugs off the internet and almost got myself stuck with permanent headaches as well as tortured myself temporarily (multiple hours at a time) with blinding migraines so i feel as though i understand terrifying emotional and physical suffering

I still vehemently deny the use of meds against me because at least one doctor said i was a type A personality more than i seemed psychotic
But a label once is a label branded

I spent every lunch break at work listening to motivation videos for a year, I’m not bi polar, or at least i don’t agree and haven’t been diagnosed. Schizophrenia of all things, ‘excessive grief’ was the reason for my initial diagnosis
The first dosage was just me screaming profanities at my neighbours. But i made the mistake of saying i was out of drugs and otherwise had no problem and that got me sent to the hospital, no arrest

Thanks for listening, i haven’t gathered much from you except that you state your mind and prefer the truth, have some forethought and insight into your approach in things
You mention some instability but it seems to only have only bolstered your insight.
Just projecting i guess

You have any projects in the works? Are you yourself in a relationship? What kind of insight can you provide based on everything so far, relationships and whatnot
Appreciate the exchange of ideas, didn’t know i came off so intensely so overtly, or at least obvious to you
At least the consensus is that i should be on medication despite my protestations

New thread >>20718046

>>20718041
>i haven’t gathered much from you except that you state your mind and prefer the truth,
It's easier to do on here, I'm a little more careful with what I say publicly (as myself) as I've been fortunate enough to gain a small enough following that my dream of living solely on writing has some basis in reality. Maybe it's a double-edged sword as I have to be careful about what my mood swings make me say, luckily there are other places I can go to vent my bullshit anonymously.
>You mention some instability but it seems to only have only bolstered your insight.
Bi-polar disorder runs in my family, so I have a lot of experience with it. Which is probably why I'm leaning towards diagnosing you with that while I'm sitting here playing armchair psychologist. But, as you can imagine my childhood was incredibly unstable.
I don't know if I'm bi-polar or not, my swings are not as intense as other people I know. Trucking is probably what saved me as it forced me to stay away from drugs. I don't do any drugs whatsoever now, I only barely drink. I believe substance abuse is the key which makes bi-polar disorder unmanageable, at least that is what I've observed in others.
>didn’t know i came off so intensely so overtly, or at least obvious to you
If I got anything right about you it's only because you remind me of someone close to me. I was pretty much describing this other person.

>You have any projects in the works? Are you yourself in a relationship? What kind of insight can you provide based on everything so far, relationships and whatnot

I'm in a great relationship, it gives me some much-needed stability at least. Unfortunately, I can't go into too many specifics since on the very off chance someone who reads my blog comes on here they may be able to put 2 and 2 together and figure out who I am. It's a very remote chance and I'm probably needlessly paranoid about it, but I've acted like quite an asshole under the Sange persona so would not like that to be connected with who I really am.

But, stability is important to me. My trucking job gave me that in my early twenties, though the lifestyle had its own pitfalls, mainly loneliness, and now my relationship is giving me another form of stability.

I'm just continuing to write and try to keep my audience hooked, hoping it continues to grow until I can quit my now part-time job and just write full time. My girlfriend is very supportive (believes in my dreams) and kicks me in the ass when I'm not doing enough. It's not one-sided, I do everything I can to help her as well.

I've distanced most "unstable" people in my life, even though it hurts to do so. If I can offer any kind of insight to help with your project then it is to understand that there is a limited amount of yourself that you can give away, and if it would require giving too much of yourself to help someone then you should not do it. My teenage years and twenties would have been a lot easier if I figured that out sooner.

>>20718174
Also it's not just about distancing un-stable people you should also bring yourself closer to stable people. Sometimes you have to work on yourself before you can do it, because all relationships should be reciprocal. Work for free to help someone once in a while, that's the best way to make good friends.

Community is important.

>>20718210
One more thing. The problem with an all or nothing mentality is the "nothing" part.
What that means to me is a personality that attempts to touch the sky, but in failing to do so, allow themselves to crash and burn. You don't need to touch the sky, sometimes just standing on a roof is fine. You've got a lot less further to fall if things don't work out.

Need help with futuristic swear word or swear phrase.

What would be the equivalent of "oh my god," 200 years in the future?

>>20714353
doesn't sound real, learn to puncutate. also read it out loud so your ear hears the fakeness
>>20714940
>sub specie aeternitatis

>>20717048
I suspect if a catholic read the things I am going to write about the religions in my world they would see the parallel and be upset, and that since my MC outright denies generational guilt (he is related by blood to a group that caused a massive famine which caused a country to sell some of their people as slaves to get food.) it might upset people who try to blame everything on one group or another because of what their ancestors did.
in both cases I would just say, yeah so what? its my opinion on these things.

>>20715082
you need to work on overarching structure. structure shit, nobody just writes without a destination any more than you would build a house without a blueprint.

>>20715346
>Writing should be fractal, like a tree. You start from a trunk (main idea) and branch out. Anything not necessary to the scene is dead wood
FUUUCK this is good advice. Everyone listen to this shit.

>>20719525
if you think that's good wait until you see gang weed the movie

>>20717808
>Charlie Jane Anders
More like Charlie J- ACK!

>>20715553
nah bro, that sounds boring. don't be purple

>>20715570
read it out loud. and don't push for emotions. they should arise naturally, or secondarily. this is what people mean by show, don't tell. You need a subtle touch.

>>20715666
if it is good, it will be worth reading. sex isn't new, yet we're all obsessed with it

>>20716107
>Their boisterous conversations blended together in his head, becoming a single exuberant outpouring, almost a song of pure joy.
wtf. doesn't sound real. stopped reading here.

don't say shit just to say it.

>>20716612
tell a fucking story dude, enough of this puruplarity

>>20719944
I can’t tell the story I want without the reader understanding the character.

>>20719933
seethe