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[ERROR] No.2070178 [Reply] [Original]

It's time for another grammar thread!

For any descriptivists reading this, we understand your point, but can we keep the "It doesn't matter if it is misspelled as long as the reader understands it!" arguments to a minimum? Thanks in advance!

First order of business: Is the following statement grammatically correct?

"Whomever wins, we all all lose."

Feel free to post any other grammar problems you want /lit/ to attempt to decipher.

>> No.2070184

Does fart is a an adjective or a pronouncatory verboun(verb-noun. ) ? My penis infected the countywide.

>> No.2070217

>>2070178
It'd be whoever because the noun comes before the transitive.

>> No.2070221

>>2070217
Answer my question!

>> No.2070224

>>2070221
No, it' not correct.

>> No.2070225

It's incorrect. Whom and any derivation of it is for objects of verbs. The winner is the subject of the verb "to win". The person being discussed is not what is being one nor whom it is being won for. Basically, if the person were being won, they would be the direct object, requiring the use of "whom", if the something were being won for the person, they'd be the indirect object, requiring the use of "whom", but they were the one doing the winning, making them the subject of the sentence, requiring use of the subject pronoun "who" or in the case "whoever".

>> No.2070229

>>2070225
Ah, I see.

>> No.2070260

People fuck up whom because they are not familiar with case and the declensions that were once used to demonstrate case.

In Old English
WHO, applied to masculine and feminine nouns.

Sing. Nom. hwā Plur. Nom. hwā
Gen. hwæs Gen. hwæs
Dat. hwǣm Dat. hwǣm
Inst. hwȳ Inst. hwǣm
Acc. hwone Acc. hwone

Modern English doesn't have such a differentiated system.

Nom Who
Gen Whose
Dative [This case is done with preposition "to"] to whom
Accusative Whom