/lit/ - Literature

>>20695750
Unironically Greek philosophy. The Medieval magicians like Al-Kindi and Agrippa all based their theories on Plato, Aristotle and Iamblichus, it's impossible to understand the reasoning behind their claims without knowing that stuff.

>>20695750
Jung, then work your way back to the ancients.

Ignore traditionalist fags that say he isn't a fantastic introduction.

>>20695750
Swedenborg

>>20695750
Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey into Christian Hermeticism

>>20695761
This, start with divine Plato and Iamblichus. Proceed with Plotinus. Julian the Apostate had some good stuff too

>>20695750
>Where to start with Mysticism/Occultism?
It depends on what kind.

>>20695901
look man, I just want to learn some spells

>>20695750
The Esoterica Youtube channel. The guy hosting it is a materialist Jew that does not believe in any form of the supernatural or God, but has great content in terms of an academic introduction to the occult and esotericism.

>>20695937
He is a literal communist. I do not recommend. I'd prefer to do a multitude of things before I waste my time with that retard.

>>20695925
You're a wizard, Harry.

On a more serious note, check out Global Grey ebooks, it has a plethora of free books on the topics you desire. Also, support the lady with donations, she's pretty nice.

>>20696096
Forgot one more - see the /omg/ general on /x/.

>>20695750
>Where to start with Mysticism/Occultism?
Your local Hot Topic.
Ask for Kevin

>>20696126
kek

>>20695987
Hes honestly still miles better than wasting time on some retard that sucks the info out of his own asshole just to go on some bullshit tirade about how aryans built the pyramids or some shit.

>>20695987
Also in high-school he was the leader of a cult that was involved in a school shooting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting

>>20695750
10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD; because of these same detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you.

>>20695750
McDonald's.

>>20696143
>aryans built the pyramids
Yes. Not blondes. Semites are Aryans mixed with Africans creating the Afro-Asiatic language group. Asiatic as in Turkic/Caucasian. Turkey was called Asia for most of history.
Usually in this context of trying to figure out hidden history you can ignore the genetics if they bother you/don't interest you and focus on the cultural impacts and language groups. Western culture has roots in the middle-east, "the cradle of civilization", the pyramids and all that.

>>20696688
why are they 'detestable' to the Lord?

does he not want to share power?

>>20695750
Here >>>/x/ obviously.

>>20696867
Sorcery (Pharmakeia) involves the use of drugs and other substances which can leave one vulnerable to influences from demonic beings which are normally unseen. It puts one in a weaked / suggestible state. Just think what happens when one takes DMT and the ‘machine elves’ appear. This is sorcery, and those beings will never tell you to follow Jesus Christ, but they will tell you that ‘we are all one’ or that you are ‘enlightened’ now. Magic is similar, in that it involves demonic powers, and attempting to manipulate things and / or people via spiritual means. Divination and omens are just retarded—ripping open an animal and staring at its liver for ‘signs’ is just superstition, as is the idea the people’s lives are governed by planetary and stellar motion and alignment rather than God’s providence.

>>20696867
Sorcery (Pharmakeia) involves the use of drugs and other substances which can leave one vulnerable to influences from demonic beings which are normally unseen. It puts one in a weaked / suggestible state. Just think what happens when one takes DMT and the ‘machine elves’ appear. This is sorcery, and those beings will never tell you to follow Jesus Christ, but they will tell you that ‘we are all one’ or that you are ‘enlightened’ now. Magic is similar, in that it involves demonic powers, and attempting to manipulate things and / or people via spiritual means. Divination and omens are just retarded—ripping open an animal and staring at its liver for ‘signs’ is just superstition, as is the idea the people’s lives are governed by planetary and stellar motion and alignment rather than God’s providence.

God works miracles through his saints to this very day, but this is not magic or sorcery, and comes solely through grace.

>>20697186
In an even semi deterministic world you can extract the information you need to predict most relevant things from a small sample. I know you think this is obvious but if I know what the stars were doing when you were born I know how old you are. Information about the stars gave me information about you.

>>20697228
Our lives are not determined by the stars and the moon like astrology kooks believe

>>20697251
The “accidents” of your life and your predilections most certainly are determined by the stars and can be read with astrology. Nobody (including Christians) doubted that until the 17th century when the astrological tradition fell off. Christian cope was that the body was ruled by the stars but the mind wasn’t. But of course, even your basic religious dispositions can also be found from the birth chart. Only your soul is free and very few people are able to rise above astral influences

>>20697279
Doesn’t matter what Medieval / Enlightenment era Christians were doing. Astrology is paganism.

>>20695840
>Hermeticism
>Christian
>Tarot
None of those things go together.

>>20695937
Why would you learn about le occult from an academic perspective? That is idiotic unless you merely want to memorize factoids.

>>20697522
That's because you only know the book from the title. It uses the imagery of tarot as a vehicle for the contemplation of Christianity, not as a way to shoehorn wacky hermeticist stuff into the faith.
Hans Urs von Balthasar was a big fan of it.

>>20696688
>>20697186
Technically these are just rules for a bunch of jewish plebs, it also doesn't say anything about "high magic" (makes sense given who it was written for). Still it's good advice in general.

>>20697542
Sounds gay.

>>20697542
Apparently Pope John Paul II was a fan of it. Don't know if its true, though. Heard it from /lit/.

>>20695750
don't don't waste your life on delusion

>>20695750
You don’t.

>>20696675
kek, a jew literally had a retard shoot up a school for his club and then went on to be a commie spreading more chaos in the world.>>20696675

>>20695750
Boehme, Santa Teresa de Jesus. I’d be interesting in knowing some esoteric/eastern names. Plato also counts, of course.

Also this.

>>20695750
I highly recommend pic related. A very nice intro to Western esotericism. It’s a bit old at this point but still an easy and fun read.

>>20696675
Wow. Thanks for sharing this information.

>>20695761
>>20695840
>>20695868
>>20698249
These and picrel (some of the tiny books in the chart are bad, use your discretion).

Start with the academic secondary literature, then the Traditionalist School, and then the primary sources.

>>20697310
astrology is paganism is not an argument against its validity. you are just pointing out that you dont like the club that used it.

>>20696126
>Your local Hot Topic.
take me back bros.

>>20695750
start by throwing all your books on the subject in the bin and do something more useful with your time instead