/lit/ - Literature

>>20678117
You can’t do it through books bro
You really need to have that one relationship that totally shatters any dreams and hopes you had for genuine long-term love
Only then can you get to that point
>t. already there and seriously considering never dating again and remaining a bachelor

>>20678147
Sounds nice but I can't have any relationships now or for the next few years because of my living situation.
I once chatted to a woman (married and with kids) at a place I used to work at for like a week, nothing flirty just casual convo.
Then I had to move away and even 3 months later just having a stray thought about her makes me feel dizzy.


Just walking down the street and seeing random roasties is enough to make feel insane.

I'm unironically at a loss.

>>20678117
Schopenhauer?

>>20678117
books written by women

>>20678117
The Kreutzer Sonata by Tolstoy
Sex and Character by Otto Weininger

>>20678117
you will never be complete unto yourself anon if that's what you're saying. love union is the innate object of the will and our fundamental reason for being. basically you either choose women or god but in either case you are spiritually wired for loving. the sooner you embrace it the sooner you achieve some harmony in life

>>20678117
Leave your house and meet one.

>>20678117
sayings of the desert fathers

>>20678226
This or alternatively just talk to any woman for more than 10 minutes about anything related to literature

>>20678117
you can get half there by researching hybristophilia and how many women deny having rape fetishes.

>>20678117
What an interesting topic.

I think probably understanding that we're physiologically wired to be suicide troops to serve random cave women goes a long way to curing this ailment, if you can't wait until the hormones wear off in your late twenties.

It is an interesting topic for sure. Probably the answer is really the Reichian answer where you go full on into your lusts until your'e sick to death of whatever it was that you fetishized, then you're cured. But remember it's species biology that you're fighting against, not actually anything or anybody but your own default programming.

>>20678226
>>20678273
>>20678307
>>20679011
it's going to be difficult to sift through the actual responses to this question that haven't succumbed to bitterness.

>>20678246
>women or god
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh hahahahahahaha
faggot

> but in either case you are spiritually wired for loving
"spiritually" wired, my foot. it's a baseline default adolescent thing! it's babies! real men are above this.

>>20681402
And you haven't succumbed to bitterness?

>>20681458
Hmm.. after thinking about that question seriously, my answer is no. It's more the case that ignorance toward the biological facts of the species is what seems to set the genders against each other; if a man thinks a woman is intllectually cognizant of herself - as an equal - then he cannot help but despise her terrible personality, but if man understands a woman is a farmyard animal then it's impossible to despise a cow or a pig or a goat. It's impossible also to be offended or let down by a cow or a pig or a goat in any way, because one knows at that point not to task them with important things which are far beyond their capacity.

fully aware of how bad this sounds.

>>20678117
Check out some buddhist books
maybe one of Lama Surya Das' books

Jesus.

Imagine having to force yourself to get into a mindset that contradicts your own male instincts. You are being delusional, OP.

Just accept you need a woman. You don't need to marry her or have kids. But get yourself a woman, even a sex buddy will fill that void.

Hit the gym. Get a job. Eat healthy. Thrive.

Don't allow yourself to be an eternal coping loser.

>>20681487
Ignore this type of response, OP. This human males head is filled with fungus from the female vagina and unwittingly seeks to uphold the dominion of his slave-master by coaxing you into service. Notice he is physically and intellectually inept due to the displacement of his rational mind and that such displacement is what he seeks to convert you into as well.

Kill this type of creature if you encounter it, and claim its nearby women as your own.

>>20678210
stop masturbating

>>20681519
I don't

>>20678117
Forrest Gump, both the movie and the book.

>>20681487
>Just accept you need a woman.
I know, I just can't currently and won't be able to for quite a while b/c of my living arrangement. see >>20678210
in fact I woke up today dreaming about this issue, it might be the end of me

>>20681483
>if a man thinks a woman is intellectually cognizant of herself - as an equal - then he cannot help but despise her terrible personality.
Intellection and cognition are opposed to one another. The former deals with the intelligible while the latter is informed by the sensible. Why do you assume that a self-aware and percipient woman capable of readily comprehending the ramifications of her being must necessarily be in possession of a detestable personality?

>>20681542
>then he cannot help but despise her terrible personality.
That's on him then. This mindset results from the man's deficiencies --insufficiencies -- and ineptitude.

>>20681542
Well it's obviously upbringing and influence that's the problem; the very terrible character of the western woman isn't the same in women of other countries.. but, sure,
>Why do you assume that a self-aware and percipient woman capable of readily comprehending the ramifications of her being must necessarily be in possession of a detestable personality?
Because to know wha you do is terrible; not in any grand philosophical manner but actually 'terrible' in your day-to-day interactions with people, and if you carry on doing it then your personality is detestable. Only if a person doesn't know better or, like a child, is considered not intellectually responsible for their actions would another person forgive terrible behavior.

I think I understand what you're saying but you're stretching this simply to make allowance for a Woman in the first place. I submit to you that if a Man was noticably blanking you and treating you with contempt and refusing to work, etc., you'd have no trouble immediately recognizing what was going on - you would think he was going out of his way to make you beat him up, but with a Woman, maybe she wants "to be noticed" in some retarded way and genuinely, here's the difference, does not understand how offensive she is actually being. Either she lacks the mental capacity, which I doubt personally, or she has just been surrounded all her life by people who mad excuses for her and stunted her intellectual adult development, causing her to remain in infancy. She seeks a daddy and wants to be called baby, if it wasn't evident.

>>20681583
Ah but you admit that the burden is on the Man to be intellectually and morally superior in order to tolerate the Woman in the fist place; it's 'his' ineptitude - lack of self-control perhaps - when she loses the dog or forgets to pay the rent or spends the quarterly earnings on shoes, and he considers her poorly because of it.

Switch the genders in the above example to understand the great hypocrisy in this, as well as the inherent inferiority that 'you' ascribe to Women in order to defend the poor upbringing of Women.

i.e.
it's 'her' ineptitude - lack of self-control perhaps - when he loses the dog or forgets to pay the rent or spends the quarterly earnings on shoes, and she considers him poorly because of it:

doesn't she realize she is at fault? he is a delicate flower, whereas she, if she is in anyway upset by his actions.....
>That's on her. This mindset results from the woman's deficiencies --insufficiencies -- and ineptitude.

We wouldn't take this seriously even for a second, it's laughable to pretend anybody in the world would ever say this of a woman having to tolerate a stupid husband.

So you see the point of hypocrisy, ἐποχή

>>20681608
I don't need the tolerance or avowal of any man. It's basic courtesy to respect another human being. You don't need to dispense any sort of superiority in being respectful of a woman.
>>poor upbringing of Women.
Where did I allude to this?
>when she loses the dog or forgets to pay the rent or spends the quarterly earnings on shoes, and he considers her poorly because of it.
Stupidity.

>>20681677
>it's laughable to pretend anybody in the world would ever say this of a woman having to tolerate a stupid husband.
That's merely your supposition.

>>20678117
If you really want to do it, get your hands on hard drugs.
I suspect this is the real reason why hard drugs are banned. I haven't partaken myself, but I am told that they make women look worth less than 100 quids worth.
Either that or become a Wizard.

>>20681593
>She seeks a daddy and wants to be called baby, if it wasn't evident.
Again, your entire argument rests upon your own botched notions.

>>20681515
>claim its nearby women as your own
To propagate the cycle?

What helped me was taking drugs to chemically castrate myself
A book that was nice was A Hero of our Time

>>20681688
>Wizard
*Magus.

>>20681690
>>20681678
>>20681683
> your entire argument rests upon your own botched notions.

Oh Greek Helot, I'll put this down to your poor grasp of English and the heat having addled the brains of your race. I made a straightforward case highlighting your own inherent inferiority 'toward' women in order to tolerate the bad actions 'of' women and not be upset (by the examples; which you said would be the fault of the Man for being upset by). Expound upon this point, if you like, I'd be interested to see how you justify this one point, I'm not so interested in seeing you ape the English language to distract away from this point.

Also,
If you claim now that you're a Woman I find this even more difficult to believe; as a sensible Woman of any intelligence would understand entirely the terrible actions of other Women around her and would be the first to agree.

>being a fag with no strong opinions n anything besides gay Kantian bifurcation who retreats to the bare minimum of logical argumentation in discussions

Don't be this guy

>>20681691
>To propagate the cycle?
No. Because the Turks pay good coin for milk white flesh.

>>20681695
no, Wizard.
30yrs of virginity

>>20681729
I'm not even Greek, cretin.

>>20681729
>poor grasp of English
Ha!

Buddhism.

>>20681792
>>20681789
Are you still not going to respond properly to defend your case? That's boring. I'd like to see the defense of it.

>>20678117
/lit/ will not ever improve with incel rates this high. It's not a matter of incels necessarily being wrong, it's a matter of myopia. We'll never reach higher planes of discourse because the tfw no gf elephant in the room hoovers up all the discourse. A sad fate.

>>20681931
> higher planes of discourse
Apophaticism?

>>20681931
>higher planes of discourse
Apparently a Woman was just here, you can observe the higher planes of discourse,

two responses, largely gibberish, both barely constitutigone line - and making a contrdictory point,
>>20681542
>>20681583

point challenged,

three more barely one-line replies, won't address the subject being discussed
>>20681678
>>20681683
>>20681690

i believe a Man jumped in to defend the Woman, observe his catatonic state of thinking
>>20681730
>retreats to the bare minimum of logical argumentation in discussions
pretends to consider "sticking to the subject" as a bad thing

asked to respond to the point again,

>>20681789
>>20681792
replies with barely one word, refuses to answer the subject

asked again to respond to the subject

no response

> higher planes of discourse because the tfw no gf elephant in the room hoovers up all the discourse. A sad fate.
.....yes.............. quiiite

>>20681961
>the subject
What's the most salient concession you are willing to make? Let's not waste my time. I, for my part, concede nothing.

>>20681837
I presented a cogent argument already.

>>20681931
desu I don't mind defending the "incel" position at all, the nature of how some Mens brains go to shit around Women is very interesting - as well as their attempt to resist any inquiry of this subject by insulting any Man who voices their thoughts on the subject, as well as the total absence of Women in general - you'd think intelligent Women would be the first to remark on how awful the culture of 'Modern Women' is, since they'd the ones suffering the most at the hands of those other Women. Although perhaps they all killed themselves in their teens.

Eh, anyway, a Man learning to shake off the infantilism and mother-dependency of the contemproary western culture is more like a naturally occurring brain-development; from child to adult, for the species I think where the opposite gender is no longer idolized or mysterious but is intimately understood and found to be deeply flawed, and probably being not allowed to speak of it at all leads to mental illness, pills, fads, suicide and mass shooters so it's good to talk about these things.

just my opinion ....

Though, moreso, it's very fun to take the hard position and argue it. If other people prefer to pretend like this is their social media where they're here to impress random anons by playing dumb, then that's just a waste of this format entirely.

>>20681988
>Let's not waste time
agreed.

Try and discover the sentences that were carefully written for you to read in the earlier post here, >>20681593 when you're able to understand what was said, then perhaps we can try again.

I would like to hear a defense for:
1) how it's the Mans fault for noticing that a Woman who behaves terribly is behaving terribly.
and
2) how this argument of yours (where it is the mans fault for not being tolerant to terrible behavior) does not rely upon 'you' (or him) considering Women to be inherently inferior and himself inherently superior; that 'he' must not apply normal standards of reason or behavioral expectations of good conduct to a Woman.

>>20682020
>Try and discover the sentences that were carefully written for you to read in the earlier post here
You reek of insolence.

>>20681931
>tfw no gf
if that's all you got out of OP then maybe you should personally leave /lit/, we'd definitely get a higher level of discourse without you

can our tripfriends please stop derailing and kindly leave, thanks a bunch

>>20681931
>higher planes of discourse
What subjects do you suggest?

>>20681988
and just btw, your behavior here has been fairly 'terrible'. It kind of proves the point rather beautifully.

>>20681961
>pretends to consider "sticking to the subject" as a bad thing
Ideally, any discussion should transcend the subject's bourne. Take your arguments to their limit. Be wary of dealing with absolutes.

>>20682035
>you reek of insolence
hahaha the ego of this woman..

Hey, that's ok dear
I am more than happy with non-western women who do not have 'terrible' personalities, ... I do not mind in the least to watch in amusement as you engage in dysgenics with mentally retarded simps - and I smile when you give birth to handicapped offspring from your bad choices in life.

=)

>>20682051
>and just btw, your behavior here has been fairly 'terrible'. It kind of proves the point rather beautifully.

>>20682051
>, your behavior here has been fairly 'terrible'.
How so?

On a related note, any books promoting asceticism?

>>20682069
>smile when you give birth to handicapped offspring from your bad choices in life.
I've never suffered a single bad choice. I'm also never rearing and bearing children. I am unfazed.

>>20678117
Bunch of newfags here? How come no one said pic related?

>>20678117
The world as Will and Representation

>>20678246
Based. Not what anyone wants to hear, but based. Real maturity means either fighting for a loving connection like that through self improvement, or dealing with the grief around that desire head-on. Pretending that you’ve just stopped wanting it is no good. You look like a five year old insisting “I’m not hungry” while their stomach keeps rumbling.

>>20678117
Imagine wanting to cut yourself off from the libidinal magma core. The challenge is to improvise a creative form of sublimation: better to become a shack-dwelling but prolific R. Crumb pervert than to abandon it all and castrate yourself.

>>20682084
>I'm also never rearing and bearing children.
Thank goodness for that. I am wholly pleased when I find westerners gelding their kids or not having any at all.

It's nice to end on a positive note!

>>20682099
Ah, see, proof that not all Women are diabolically criminally retarded. Pay attention, greek-anon from earlier.

>>20682137
>Based. Not what anyone wants to hear, but based
jack off into your sock already, would you?

>Real maturity means either fighting for a loving connection like that
C'mon, get a clue, look at the divorce rates and the break-up rates; 999% any child this guy may have with a westernish woman will be taken from him through the courts within the first six months and he will be reduced to a narcotics addled wreck, being forced to pay for the keep of that woman whilst living close to if not actually in a homeless shelter. If not this, then it will be misery upon misery until this eventually does occur.

You are dreaming.

OP needs to simply go to a foreign country and interact with non-broken Women from less decayed cultures, and he'll avoid all the misery you want to foist on him.

this goes for you too casual lurker.

>>20678210
Have sex

>>20682099
this is fascinating, reading and listening to this now. In a lot of ways we've advanced beyond the profligate state of affairs of dumb-beta men from 1971. In other ways, not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Vilar

>>20682141
But anon, the pain from the lack of fulfillment of the desire to be with a woman is too painful, enough for one to go insane. I doubt creative pursuits can ease that pain

>>20682389
>the pain from the lack of fulfillment of the desire to be with a woman is too painful,
spoken like a true virgin.

Simple just be born without it.

>>20681483
The more I lurk on here the more grateful I am for my wife.

>>20683062
is your wife built for bbc?

Seeing all these dudes who couldn't get pussy to save their lives talk about women is the funniest thing.
Book rec: Aesop's Fables.

Just go on tinder and fuck random women. It's so easy. You don't have to marry them, just be a degenerate coomer like me

>>20683212
cum brained little airhead.

>>20683232
Okay, so I was getting laid when I was 17 to late 20's and am fully over it. Now what? How much longer the fake incel thing can actually last, it's not been the actual complaint ever.

>>20683179
she's probably more of an rs feed type.

>>20678117
i wish i could get rid of my desire for female companions bros...

>>20683389
he who fights the oceans ends up drowning. you have no idea how powerful these biological and psychological impulses truly are. You will never get over women. We are doomed to them.
What you can do is simply not engage. Do not date, do not marry, do not get some broad pregnant. That is not so hard. But you will never cease to desire them.

>>20683430
see previous: >>20681402

Also most civilizations understood this and were able to recognize that a Man stupid enough to be led by a Woman was not a man in the first place, this is very much at odds with the idea that,
>You will never get over women.

>>20678117
If you need a book I would suggest The Book of Disquiet to inform you what avoiding women completely will really do to your mind. That said, no book will help. It numbs with age, becomes ephemeral fits that can spiral into despair, but it won't completely go away. Until your mid-30s you'll have to find numerous coping mechanisms to get by. I used writing, reading, illustration, cooking, and boxing. Alcohol fueled it all for some time. If you have male friends you will lose them as they become entangled with women, marry, become fathers, and ultimately can no longer relate to you. You will become suicidal and your mental health will suffer greatly in the long term. I'm not sure how I made it this far myself even with the distractions, and I gave up on women about 15 years ago.
>t. 39 year old virgin

>>20678246
idolatry of 'love' is a uniquely western thing though. In eastern thought, renunciation of ALL desire (love and hate all the same) is the ultimate goal.

>>20682321
>linking wikipedia and not reading the book without it
tremendous bait, or most egregious example of this board

>>20678117
For me it's "The Collected Orations of Barbarossaa" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K12-p0m-gxk

>>20681402
>it's going to be difficult to sift through the actual responses to this question that haven't succumbed to bitterness.
what? sayings of the desert fathers is a real recommendation.

>>20683998
Because poos and Eastern insectoids are soulless, and thus aim at detachment. Try "destroying" your ego and see what happens, you're not achieving any nirvana, you're just losing your sense of self and become a total open minded (to demons) retard. They need their anti-ego and detachment theology to function as insects collectively in heavily populated areas

>>20683998
oh shut up

>>20678117
The Manipulated Man

>>20682099
Controlled opposition

(Verification not required.)

>>20678117
I have accomplished this. How? Well I just think of all the guys she fucked and all the depraved shit she's done. It's not even a conscious thought anymore. It's actually very hard for me to feel any affection towards a woman.

>>20678210
commit a murder

>>20681527
start masturbating

>>20678210
>>20681527
holy based

>>20683661
this, in a matriarchal country, man's freedom is over when he turns 18 or so, quite cruel since school takes up all of the rest.

>>20683430
>You will never get over women. We are doomed to them.
Explain homosexuals then

>>20684050
Tiresome.

>>20683998
this isn't true. idea of union with the godhead or beloved is found in non-western traditions, from the devotional songs of the persians to the hymns of the vedas, to the adoration for krishna in the mahabharata.

>>20682050
literature

>>20678117
No books can achieve this, not even terrible first-hand experience can override your longing for intimacy and breeding instinct. I had only one long term relationship, a humiliating experience of emotional abuse and cuckoldry, and despite managing to stay celibate for years afterwards (even turning women down) I still catch myself pining after them, even missing my evil whore ex sometimes. I have to shame myself and mentally replay all the pain I suffered in relationship to stay volcel. It sucks, but better than falling for the vaginal trap again.

>>20684287
'longing', the 'instinct for breeding', and 'pining' are not the same as love. in fact these interfere with love.

>>20684264
Which writers? I enjoy Alexander Pope, Knut Hamsun, Percy Shelley, Whitman, Borges to name a few.

>>20684362
>love
Anon...

>>20684095
Male homosexuality is the height and culmination of masculinity.

>>20684024
>desert fathers
I'd disagree. I'm a pretty rabid anti-churcher and don't mind admitting it beforehand, but these men never actually got over sex, they just declared themselves celibate and avoided the subject entirely; consequentially they have no real advise,

e.g., paraphrasing,
"moderation (learning to control yourself is too hard, total abstinence is easier!"
Augustine

So this obviously deals with zero of the subject. It's the same thing as looking for advise on how to actually not want drugs or alcohol from people who all the time want drugs and alcohol and lack access to it, they haven't actually trained themselves or gotten over 'wanting' those things in the first place.

It's like a little kids mentality, almost.There are exceptions to this with some of the churchy writers, sure, but only from the extreme other end where they've already lived that life and gotten bored of it and genuinely aren't interested in it anymore for that reason, coming from a pov of experience.

>>20684079
>>20682321
>>20684000
>The Manipulated Man
'controlled opposition' lol, how so? I'm 80% read of it since yesterday evening. It's a little exaggerated I think but it does make the point that the behavior (when we find it) is entirely the product of a poor culture, so it's sober and grounded in that it's not ascribing the poor behavior to 'all women' "as women". It's very funny as well.

>>20684024
also the churchy bitterness is very unhelpful overall - it just makes the soppy woman or the mug of warm beer seem much better than it is.

>>20684421
>>20684095

This is a proof, sure. But it's an extreme other end, no pun intended. If you think about it it's really the notion of monogamy and hyper-fixation on sex acts that's the creation of these problems in the first place. It's our society that's setup this way where sexuality is made too much of and overly aggrandized; sex acts defining a personality, put into a cultural backdrop of monogamy and 'love' which adults aren't really wired for (and which societally can be shown not be practiced anyway, e.g. divorce and break-up rates) but which is reinforced from habit.

And the idea that a person needs to swear off the opposite sex if they get bored of this; to become celibate (i.e. cease procreation) and exit the gene pool, is bizarre. Virtually all of these notions come from a society that lacks an adult comprehension of sexuality.

>>20685323
>entirely the product of a poor culture, so it's sober and grounded in that it's not ascribing the poor behavior to 'all women' "as women"
also,
her argument of how women end up this way; stopping their intellectual development early on for having decided to be a prostitute, can be demonstrated to be the same cognitive pattern in 'passive' homosexuals as well; they adopt the same disregard for their actions and grasping attitude for useless trinketry and clothes, etc., seemingly for the precise same reasoning.

I mean: if 'this' is what turns Men off Women and some of those Men become gay instead, then they'll face the same problem with gay Men too - as it's the poor character of 'that' mentality that's the problem; i.e. that type of Woman is herself no more than a devious-minded faggot engaged in solipsistic disregard of the people around her.

>>20684384
oh boy another pseud tripfag eager to make their name on a dying board past its prime

>>20678117

Get married and divorced. Trust me, it will destroy any desire that you once had for women far better than any book. You won't even want to have conversations with them. There is no other way of learning of the devious, manipulative and utterly amoral nature that hides behind their charm. There are no "equal" and "respectful" relationships between men and women - you either control a woman completely or see yourself become a human pet.

t. Recently divorced

>>20685725
>you either control a woman completely or see yourself become a human pet
Truth

>>20683661
I'm 40 that's somewhat related to what happened to me. I started a thread on Samael Aun Weor (no one answered, unsurprisingly) and apparently he held a hostile view of sex

>>20684421
Its also self destructive. Pride before the fall and all that jazz

>>20685323
It's the other way around. Total abstinence is too hard, moderation is easier!

Oh I thought of a good one.

>>20678117
Minerva; the 'ideal woman', she's smart and into warfare and book learning, she's pretty and she's armed, but she's not 'real' in the mythology; she's not a born goddess, she's born from Jupiters imagination - she's just an 'idea' of what Men want nut doesn't represent any real Woman.

>>20685959
in short she's just one of Plato's forms

>>20685982
she predates plato by about 2,500 yrs and shes romano-etruscan, but sure. I won't quibble.

villanova invicta.

>>20685989
Nietzsche reached backwards to Homer and Heraclitus, to reach a similar conclusion about Plato isn't too far fetched. and neither Nietzsche and Homer were from same cultural stock, either.

>>20678210
>Just walking down the street and seeing random roasties is enough to make feel insane.
Its fucking terrifying that loonies like this are out walking the streets with the rest of us

>>20686052
shut up roaster

>>20686052

It's all apart of the feedback culture, barely anyone smiles at each other and women treat men like losers or psychos at the offset most of the time, so what do you expect? That anon is being a bit triggerhappy emotion-wise but men are not frustrated for NO reason.
Women are humoured and protected, wanted etc. across the board, it's an enviable position. Naturally, envy leads to other sins.
Also it doesn't help that most women are into true crime and rape fetishes and turn down anyone who wants a picnic. Supply and demand.
Women don't know what it's like, so download some average guy pic, make a Tinder and watch women insult you non-stop for no reason.

>>20686052
two white mice in a sea of cannibal rats all the female mouse can do is insult the male.

>>20686058
what exactly does 'roastie/roaster' mean anyway? it seems like it's not cutting enough.

>>20686144
>Women are humoured and protected, wanted etc. across the board, it's an enviable position.
I dispute this. I've been in situations where I've been mindlessly humored or actually "looked up" to legit reasons (i'm pretty great), and it gets boring after a week. If I imagined myself growing up being mindlessly grinned at and told everything I said, obviously contradicting things for example, were great, i'd want to leave those people ASAP. And being unable I'd probably blow my brains out, because it would be terrible.

If the notion really is that women get this treatment, and they obviously do, then it's not really so simple as overblown pride or ego, but more like a complete and total disregard for anything that anybody says or maybe, along with it, a gradual loss of memory towards verbal or written information as the brain just tunes everything out.

although it doesn't help us remedy the problem since no fucking woman anywhere in the english speaking world will ever speak about this.

>>20686015
You don't need to personalize it by putting idols along the road, these experiences (minerva) are commonly expressed observations or lessons that are obviously constant across time.

>>20686339
Every epoch has different values, so that's obviously a lie

>>20686346
lol what're you saying here?

that your statement was true when you thought Plato had come up with Minerva, then when you're told that lots of people had the same idea thousands of years before he lived, you say the same statement is now a lie because other people than Plato came up with it?

epochs? channeling? homer and neetch? god i can't wait until the Emperor comes and burns all records of these things so they never appear again.

>>20686332
>what exactly does 'roastie/roaster' mean anyway? it seems like it's not cutting enough.
you need to be 18+ to use this website

>>20686332
that's more of a pride problem though.
If you were told you were great all the time, it's not a negative thing or a duplicity at all. They are telling the women that they are attractive and they should be intelligent enough to see that much. It's a frankly insane position to say that "negging is good ackshually" when the foundations of a good society is one when where people are raised up, not competed against.
Women are obsessed with saying "women aren't perfect" because they are too jaded to understand the purpose of the compliment.

>>20686448
yeah sorry kido i was busy with life and missed out on about 6 yrs development of your new fag lingo, it's a little hard to catch up.

..and i dont really wanna..

>>20686449
It's almost like you didn't even read what I said. The aspect of ego-stroking 'seems' legitimate from the outside looking in but..... ah you know wat, reread what I said, not gonna type it out again :0

>>20686052
Insane as in lovesick or whatever you want to call it, I've never put my hands on anyone

>>20678117

Not quite on point, but in the ballpark:

Isaac B. Singer, The Penitent (a lustful man becomes pious)

>>20678117
Get out of your parents house, rent an apartment, and really try to get a girlfriend and have her move in with you. 2 to 6 months should suffice in curing you forever from this mental affliction called "love", and you'll be over it for good.

>>20681535
>my living arrangement
Put some money aside, move out of your parents house, get a girlfriend, live with her for a couple of weeks, and trust me, once you see the nightmare that it is to be with a female, and how quickly "love" fades (I'm talking weeks, not even months) and all you're left with is dread, you'll drop her and move back in with mommy and daddy, saving up all that rent money and never looking back.
That's the only thing that works.

>>20681535

>>20686579
>>20686567
these.

You'll also be shocked at how untidy the woman will be, how much effort and complaint it is for her to do a simple task - how much you'll hear about it and be guilted about it when she does (weeks and months later you'll be reminded about that one time she put her clothes away), how she can't even cook a simple meal (i hope you can learn to eat from microwaves) and how long it'll take before the fake happy act boils over into seething rage.

I wonder if women would be better suited living in a garden shed.

>>20678210
Is this poss?

>>20685725
n=1
Let's extrapolate that to 4 billion

>>20685725
Remember: no marriage, no life

>>20678117
why would you want that?

>>20686621
>allowing f*males into a man's shed
It's like you want flowers draped over your power tools.

Put her in the kennel; the dog can sleep in the bed with you, as in the tradition Georgian fashion, the most civilised of ages.

>>20687142
what being lonely and loveless do to a man

>>20678117
Just be gay, bro

>>20681688
Absolutely on point. Even weed for me kills the drive but I've been addicted to Xanax and Tramadol and that shit made me flat out hate flirtatious attention from women. Sex seems a chore to getting fucked up, and your values are swapped so you would never want to share you time intimately or waste you cash on another. I just wanted to listen to my headphones.

William Burroughs discussed this in junkie when relaying his Junk habits effect on his love life. His first book is really good.

Being a burnout is exactly what THEY don't want. Oh and Pessoa's Book Of Disquiet.

>Take women and then condition them to behave and think like men
Just fixed all the world's problems

>>20687199

>experiences flirtatious attention from women enough times that he can compare how it feels when sober to how it feels when he's on not just one particular drug, but more than one, implying at least three instances of flirtatious attention from women over the course of his life, and likely more than three

Discontinue posting immediately.

>>20687775

"Just train the dogs on how to do taxes, bro, then everyone will be able to do their own taxes"

You can't train an animal to do or to be something which is fundamentally against their nature.

>>20687792
based autist

>>20687775
the world is unequal precisely because men offer to do everything a woman is expected to do. Because pussy inflation is this high.