/lit/ - Literature

>>20665381
>e-reader
just read it on a phone or computer, practically no difference

Get a Boox.

>>20665389
You have never seen a Kindle in person.

>>20665389
This except get an android tablet with moon reader plus cracked. I had an ereader for years but I got tired of how slow it was, e-reader apps are just better.

>>20665562
Kobo Libra 2 flips to the next page in a split second. Never liked the old kindles but I've only touched 1 book irl ever since I got it.

>>20665381
>Should I get the Kobo Libra 2?
Yes. Don't take the advice of other fools, an e-reader is better for the eyes as it causes much less strain.

>>20666422
Is it significantly better than the OG paperwhite you think?

Like a worthy upgrade?

>>20666422
What’s the point if there’s a significant decrease in the amount of material you can read compared to pirating books on your computer?

>>20666609
>a worthy upgrade?
Yes. Kindle is better and supports more formats. It also depends on how old your paperwhite is, if it is worn out or not, slow, etc. But generally it's worth it.

>>20666628
You can download from the vast collection on Zlibrary and upload them to your kobo. Also, remove metadata, before uploading, using exifcleaner or other similar software. There is no decrease in material availability.

>>20665482
do you own a Boox? I feel like nobody actually owns these. if you do, post a picture, I want to see what it's like IRL.

>>20665389
Hard disagree as someone who’s read on both(mainly phone) before getting an e-reader. Much more comfortable, much better on the eyes

>>20666628
>Significant decrease in the amount of material you can read
If your average reader has got like 6 GB worth of storage then you can consider it infinite. books take up extremely little space, I’ve got like 300 novels on mine and successfully managed to fill 0.6 GB

>>20666837
>Also, remove metadata, before uploading, using exifcleaner or other similar software.
Wait, why should I be doing this? I've never done this before with my kindle.

Is it different with Kobo's?

do you guys buy books on kindle or nah? i had no problem buying physical books, but online kindle books feels dumb but i also dont like to pirate and buying the digital kindle version would support the author, but still feels dumb

>>20667130
>buy kindle book
>can't save it offline or move it to a different device because of DRM
>amazon can revoke your books or change the material for whatever reason they deem necessary
Nope, never even considered it.

>>20666938
I have a Max 3.
Here's a comparison with the Ace Science Fiction version of Stranger in a strange land.

>>20667216
>can't save it offline or move it to a different device because of DRM
what do you mean? after you download you can just read even if you dont have internet, no?

>>20666938
I have a Poke 3. Nice compact size and basically a tablet because you can download apps from the Play Store. I’m considering getting the Leaf since it seems to be just a newer, better version.

>>20667111
Amazon has their own DRM that they use on all their ebooks, which means you cannot view Kindle books without a Kindle or the Kindle app.
Kobo is easier and better, as they accept every file. But DRM and other faculties can still be detected, thus remove the metadata for safekeeping. You don't have to do this, I just do it for OPSEC and precaution.

If I read a book that I enjoy and that is worth it, I buy it. It's like having a free trial for the whole book lol.

>>20667329
The Leaf is larger and still only has Android 10.
Nova Air seems like a better upgrade since it also has a stylus.
But they'll probably announce even newer devices toward the end of the year.

>>20665381
I just use my phone with an app called Readera and haven't had any troubles, I put it on dark mode so it's easy on the eyes, especially at night

>>20666422
Is it worth it? The screen size is rather small

>>20668070
>Is it worth it?
Yes.
>The screen size is rather small
Well it depends on your perspective, smaller means more portable and convenient, if you have trouble reading on small devices increase the font size or get Amazon's, as it's bigger but the drawback is it doesn't accept every file type, only theirs (azw, azw3, etc).
Screen size is not really an inconvenience in my opinion.

>>20668436
I wouldn't say smaller devices are more convenient. Having a lot of screen real estate is very useful.
Portability and price are the main advantages.
Amazon has no device bigger than 7" unless you count the ancient Kindle DX.

>>20665389
Actually, my dear faggot, there is quite a bit of difference to consider.
I stare at a fucking monitor all day at work, but I love to read... so why on earth would I strain my goddamn eyes staring at a screen when my eyes can view strainless images on an ereader?
Basically as strenuous as staring at a playing card.
I noticed a huge difference in my vision when I started using an ereader. Less headaches, that's for sure.

>>20667216
>pirate kindle book
>do whatever you want with it
>fuck amazon
Yep, it's fucking great.
Some of us can see a few steps ahead, anon. It's cool if you're just catching up.

>>20668559
you didn't even read the reply chain, moron

>>20665381
Which e-books are good for digital comics?

>>20668600
The large models are useful for monochrome stuff like manga.
For color comics you are probably better off waiting for the next generation. Best currently available is the Boox Nova Air C.

>>20667130
I pirate the book, and if I liked it enough that I'd read it again then I buy it. In my mind it's the most convenient way for me and the fairest, you shouldn't have to pay for a book that turns out to be unreadable trash

>>20667329
hmm. the font rendering kind of looks sloppy and what's with all the ghosting?

>>20667239
appreciate the effort but man that camera is a potato.

>>20668436
it hardly matters what files it accepts when you can easily convert any epub with calibre. import book, right-click, send specific format to device, azw3, done.

>>20668822
>and what's with all the ghosting?
E ink has staining where old content doesn't fully disappear. You normally counter it by doing a full refresh either manually or automatically every few pages.

>>20668829
I have a 7th gen kindle paperwhite and I've literally never seen ghosting, and most page turns don't require a full screen refresh. so to me that is very strange. maybe they trade faster screen updates for more ghosting on the boox. is that configurable?

>>20668833
Yes, Boox has extra modes for faster refreshes. It can be useful for navigating certain apps or if you really need to watch a video but I wouldn't use it for normal reading.

>>20668835
so is that picture from a faster refresh mode? because that would be totally unacceptable to me personally

>>20668835
Boox anon’s model may just be older, my Kobo barely ghosts

>>20665389
>getting light blasted into your face is the same thing as not getting light blasted into your face
Dipshit

>>20668846
The Poke 3 is from 2020.
Normally I'd assume he's running a third party app which tend to have worse ghosting than the first party ones but the bookmark is from Neoreader.
My guess is that it's set to speed mode.

>>20665381
>kindle broke a month ago, so I had to buy a new one at full price instead of yesterday or today for half.
I mean, I don't regret it, but it still burns. If only the damn thing had held out just a little longer. I bet that fucker Bezos did it on purpose.

>>20665389
you dumb

>>20667239
Holy shit, why would I want something that big to read on? I'm not a fucking cartographer.

>>20668887
Because some books/documents are even bigger than that and their ebooks have a fixed layout that doesn't scale well to smaller displays.
And you can use it in split screen to view a different page/document or take notes on the side.

>>20668909
It's still something that's only really good for technical work. For reading, and for reading convenience, it's a bust. Being able to take your library with you is an e-reader's biggest selling point. You can't slip something that big in your coat pocket, or a day bag or whatever.

>>20668924
Some would just like a tablet with an eink screen, but the smaller size, esp for the ones that rather hold it one handed, is ideal.

>>20668924
>It's still something that's only really good for technical work.
Why? I have a lot of fiction books that are bigger than that.
The entire device is only as big as an A4 page so it fits in my bag just fine. Plus it's extremely light for the size.

>>20668937
Alright, that is smaller than I thought it was, but it's still unwieldy imo. I wouldn't buy a book that size that I was planning on reading, either. But if you're happy with it, then more power to you.

>their ebooks have a fixed layout that doesn't scale well to smaller displays

Never seen that happen desu. Wouldn’t get why stretching it out to much bigger displays would be better, when eBook formats are made for the common ereaders, thus according to their formats-most novels just aren’t as big as A4 pages or bigger.

>>20668966
Thus according to their sizes*

>>20668956
Don't knock it until you've actually tried it. You can use it with tablet arms, page turners and similar equipment that's just silly on small models.
I have a 7.8" reader but I stopped using it since it doesn't really have any advantages.

>>20668966
You can always switch to dual page layout, A5 sized pages aren't unusual.
Have you never tried viewing pdf intended for A4 size or similar on a 6-8" reader?

>>20668966
I’ll try it out anyway

>>20668978
>That’s just silly on smaller models

Mainly because they don’t need it. And just ‘trying’ a reader that’s as expensive as the boox ones isn’t really worth it when it still doesn’t really reach the convenience of smaller ones that you can take out, really, wherever you like. Be it a bus, in the waiting room,..

You do you, read however you like best, but there’s a reason the models aren’t upscaling like boox.

>>20668994
The sideways usage is even less convenient for me.
>Intended for A4 size
Most, me included, don’t use an e-reader to view documents but to read novels, and those scale just fine as PDF documents on common ereaders

>>20669002
I regularly read on the bus.

>>20669013
If you’re that used to taking something tablet-sized out on a busy bus, that’s great. I’d personally think it’s uncomfortable, and would be worried to carry something as thin and big in a bag.

>>20669008
The nice thing of 13" models is that you can use them for everything. You can read prose on a small reader but it can't replace your general paper needs along with it.
I think using it vertically is a lot more convenient than holding a regular book, magazine or stack of papers since I can still hold it in one hand.

>>20668843
I had it on a faster mode in that picture, yeah. Forgot to change it. When I read I put it back in Normal mode and the ghosting goes away. The faster the mode the more ghosting.

>>20668829
>E ink has staining where old content doesn't fully disappear
>screen burn in
KEK

>>20668531
>I wouldn't say smaller devices are more convenient.
They are more convenient to store on a smaller bag for example. But I understand your point.
>Having a lot of screen real estate is very useful.
Well it depends, why would you want a 8" over a 6", what exactly does that difference offer?
>Portability and price are the main advantages.
Yes, I agree.

>>20668825
Didn't know about that. But it could still have formating issues. An epub is easier to find and is just "plug-and-go" on a Kobo.

>>20668874
In that case I would've just kept reading on a PC or phone until a sale day

Btw is the Kobo Libra 2 good for manga and stuff? Like can I read chapters off viz?

>>20665389
fpbp

>>20665381
IDK about eReader, but I am selling an Ebook I wrote:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4M98NTH

>>20665381
Are they any better than the phone apps?

>>20669398
It's not permanent and for reading books it's a complete nonissue.

>>20669512
For reflowable documents a bigger screen lets you view more text at the same size at once so you need to flip less pages and it's easier to re-read a paragraph.
For fixed layout documents a larger screen gives you larger text so you can read things without zooming in (which tends to work poorly on e ink).
An 8" screen has almost twice as much area as a 6".

>>20670234
The Libra 2 is fairly small compared to a B6 sized manga, not to mention A5 size.
Most people opt for a model with Android such as Likebook or Boox that lets them install official readers or Tachiyomi. On Kobo you are limited to buying the volumes.

>>20670515
The big difference is the type of display used. Phones use LCD or OLED while e-readers use e-ink.
The page turn buttons may also be more convenient than using volume rockers.

>>20665381
Dammit, kept putting off purchasing the Kobo Libra 2 today and now the black one is out of stock.

Maybe next time I'll pick it up

>>20669002
If you can't afford it then just say so instead of sour graping about their usability.

>>20665381
Are any of the smaller Kobo's any good? Or is it only the Libra 2 that's worthwhile owning?

>>20665381
Kindle is better. The Oasis to be more specific.

>>20671335
The Clara isn’t horrible but the lighting is bad, if you can get the Libra 2 then get the Libra 2

>>20670729
You can still view a lot of text on a 6" screen, and flipping more pages/easier readability mentioned are not really an inconvenience. I do agree with your comments though.
I never had to zoom in unless it is a pdf, there are certain ones that are a bit less optimized but still functional. But this is an issue on the pdf itself, not Kobo's.
8" is liken unto a book's size, a 6" is liken unto a pocket book. I guess it comes down to personal preference, if you are or not willing to give more money for a 2" difference (and a few more features).

>>20671322
I don’t get why you’re so bitter that most people aren’t looking for a tablet but with a different screen, and also aren’t using it for office purposes like to read documents. ‘The bigger the better’ is a mindset not worth defending when the market clearly doesn’t agree with you, and big ereaders remain a niche that demand just doesn’t fancy.
I have a separate tablet just for office/study purposes, that don’t need an eink display because I don’t stare at documents for hours. I reserve e-readers specifically for reading as they’re most comfy for just that.

>>20671460
The thing is also, I wouldn’t buy a boox either, and you going ‘Oh you don’t like it cuz you’re poor haha’, ignoring all the points people listed against boox, is you being shallow and thinking ‘if I just waste enough money on it it’ll be best quality experience’, now trying to convince everyone else of just that.

>>20671460
I would like bigger ereaders for comics at least

I have some money that I can't help but want to spend.
Any chances an eReader might help me get into reading?
Thought it would be a good use of the money instead of just another videogame.

>>20671939
I’d say so, feels nice to hold-and being more comfortable to read on than an iPad or sth makes it more fun to read too, meaning you’ll be more engaged

>>20671939
It made me read more because I find it more comfortable to read in bed with it. And I have a small one so I carry it with me instead of being on my phone.

whats the best way to convert pdf to epub or similar? can someone link a good tutorial?
the pdfs i have in mind have a lot of footnotes and citations

>>20671939
Yeah I'd say so. Don't buy books though just pirate them until it pays itself off. Heck all I do is just google "book title mobi" and often get results.

Plus it's convenient for things like tapping on the word to get the dictionary meaning. And just tapping on foot note numbers to change the page to the related foot notes etc

>throws tablet away

>>20669512
>But it could still have formating issues.
in all the books I've sent I've never had a formatting issue resulting from the conversion. the amazon format is like a thin wrapper based on the epub standard I believe. epub itself is like html/xml for books. it's not a complicated process. I really don't think there's any distinction here.

>>20672230
there's no good way to do that. you need to find an epub of whatever you're trying to read in order for it to display properly on a free flow text optimized device like an ereader. or buy an ereader that's big enough to display the pdf without conversion and zooming/panning around pages.

>>20672312
Farseer Triology, nice.
>>20672300
mobi is an older format, you're better off getting epubs.

>>20672567
sir that didnt answer my question

>>20672599
it literally answers your question. if you asked "what's the best way to drive a car with your eyes closed" the best answer is there is no good way to do it.

>>20672604
i found this but it looks like too much work, nonetheless it is possible
https://archive.org/details/ebooksthatcutit_202001/mode/2up

>>20671460
>most people aren’t looking for a tablet but with a different screen
What's your reasoning for that? Large readers aren't more popular because they are pricy.

>>20671465
When the argument for knocking it without trying is that it's expensive, it's clear that they hate it because they are poor.
There's no real argument against a 13" reader beyond it not fitting in your pants.

>>20665389
e-ink is much better on the eyes.

>>20665389
>just read it on a phone
Too small
>or computer
Too big

>>20672649
Because books are not the size of tablet screens. Someone who reads books will be uncomfortable with a device for book reading that’s not as comfortable to hold and carry as one. Also is utterly frail due to size and width. I don’t need a reader with the advantages of ‘oooh apps, ooh notetaking oooh documents’ when I can buy a tablet for the same price and that can do these specific things vastly better; and no, the eink screen isn’t a good selling point to get a reader for these features.

>>20672669
>It’s clear that they hate it because they are poor
>*Hasn’t read a single argument in the thread*
I have an actual tablet for office and study work. You’re trying everything you can to justify a poor investment, when it’s really useless: People aren’t buying it. Even when they’re becoming more accessible. It’s a niche for those that like comics or want to use a reader for the office, which is a microscopic fraction compared to the people looking for e-readers for book reading.

>>20672669
“Don’t knock it until you tried it!” is a bad argument in general. Anyone falling for it will far for the same buyer’s remorse as you do.
>“Electric cars are a waste and nowhere as efficient? Don’t knock it till you tried it!”
>“Eating bugs makes you sick to the stomach? Don’t knock it till you tried it!”

Don’t hate others for having made better decisions than you. You, too, are mistaking quality for the price-point of a device.

>>20672797
Are you intentionally picking bad examples?

>>20672669
That's a pretty big argument though. The whole selling point of ereaders and tablets is their portability. Take that away and what do you have - an inferior PC. You can buy a 13 inch chromebook with a touchscreen for the same price or slightly less.

>>20672790
>Because books are not the size of tablet screens
Do you only read paperbacks?

>>20665381
FYI it looks like the new paperwhite is also on sale so I would consider that as well. I was recently in the exact same position (had a first gen paperwhite and deciding between a new paperwhite or a kobo device). I ended up just going with a newer paperwhite because the previous device served me so well. If you already know how to use calibre to convert epub to mobi and don't mind that one minor inconvenience of using kindle vs kobo i don't really see a reason to switch. From what I can tell the two devices are extremely similar but I prefer the simpler design of the kindle. I'm very happy with it but it probably comes down to personal preference. Definitely a big upgrade over the 1st gen paperwhite though and worth it in my opinion.

>>20672817
How are paperbacks in any way relevant? Is all you read the side of an Oxford dictionary?
>>20672808
What bad examples, when you want to convince an internet board to buy a reader the price of an IPad Pro?
The philosophy that you somehow get better quality with a higher price is consumerist, and these modern consumerist examples fit, hence I chose them

>>20672815
A 13" reader is still a lot more portable than a 13" notebook. One weighs 500g, the other 1500g. You can use it outside or in public transport where a notebook is useless or unwieldy.
Even at home the reader will be easier to handle when you want to read on the couch or in bed.
A PC will lack the benefits of e-ink unless you spend significantly more to get an e-ink monitor or use an e-ink tablet as a monitor, in which case you could also just use it as a tablet.
Even 7.8" readers are too large to fit in pockets and people still buy them.

>>20672841
I have tons of folios that are larger than tablets.

>>20672862
That is on you, most people don’t. It’s a weird and disconnected way to think that your average reader will have books of that size.

I’m not denying the niche demand for bigger e-readers doesn’t exist, but that it stays a small demographic for a reason. No one’s insulting you for your preferences, but you saying they’re somehow ‘objectively better, just that these peasants are too poor to get it and have too small bags’ is what makes you sound unreasonable.

>>20672841
The iPad Pro doesn't really compare. It's still a LCD screen (possible OLED in the future) and you are limited to Apple's appstore.
The Apple Pencil has a poor writing feel compared to the options for ERM and needs charging.

>>20672887
Again, buying a reader to have the functionality of both tablet and reader, on a device that’s mid at both, is not a reason to buy it. I know no one that cares about the store on a reader except booktube, and stores, of all things are no reason to buy something.

‘Oh but screen bad’ is not an argument for the notetaking as well as office functionalities. The one advantage of eink is that it’s not hard on the eyes when you look at it for hours, you don’t do that at with any of those functionalities.

Honestly got no clue what about ‘bad writing feel’ you’re talking about when eink screens are by default slower.

>>20672886
These threads tend to have a lot of people asking for readers that can handle pdf and for pdf the rule is the bigger the better.
Obviously a lot of people looking to buy e-readers don't own expensive books but it's all relative.
Having a large screen doesn't harm your ability to read books in any way. Obviously there's an upper limit since a 40" screen will be hard to hold and too large to fully see but 13" are well below that.

>>20672908
For note taking I want a display I can look at without tons of reflections or having to ramp up the lighting to unpleasant levels.
The latency for handwriting is now around 30ms, barely notable for most people. What's relevant for the writing feel is friction. Apple means writing with plastic on a smooth glassy screen while e-notes use felt nibs on a rougher surface.
Most stores are actually present on the Appstore, it's things like Tachiyomi that people care about and don't get.

>>20672925
But you started going off on how a 13” is generally a better e-reader option, when it’s not for the reasons we’ve talked about. A pdf is made for the size of the original, and having the closest to it is the rule. Too close it’ll compress, too big it’ll stretch out. ‘the bigger the better’ is at most, only for the PDFs that ARE the size of A4s, which I’m not talking about because I talk about the general demographic readers.

Sure, it doesn’t harm your ability, but the comfort is where most people tend to turn away from bigger readers, me included even if I could’ve just gotten it.

>>20672962
What do you base your impression of comfort on?
Most people I've spoken to would love a 13" reader but are turned off solely by the price.
Would you seriously not get one should they cost the same as a 6" model?

>>20672960
>Lacking friction
Specific, but popular, paper-feel foil just for that.
That you want a device to take notes on and look at for hours is your personal habits, which again, all fine, but generally document viewing as well as notetaking purposes do not require you to stare at the tablet all day, nevermind that the ‘tons of reflections’ is comically exaggerated, even with dim lighting. No one’s using a tablet for office purposes out in the sun.

>>20672989
>”Most people”
Who? The Boox subreddit?
Most people I talk to would love to have something as neatly portable as a common size reader, because they can travel with it whenever, can treat it like a book too due to size.

And no, because again, the functionalities of a 13” model I’ve got on a tablet already.

>>20672989
Not him but I wouldn't solely due to it being unwieldy. I have no problem reading pdfs on an 8" and I read tons of academic pdfs. Anything larger is just too bulky and impractical, and yes I have tried larger ereaders which is how I came to that conclusion.

>>20672999
Even an extra screen layer isn't going to turn the plastic tip into felt.
>No one’s using a tablet for office purposes out in the sun.
And why do you think that is?

>>20672989
>two ereaders
>identical price
>identical specs
>except one fits in your pocket and the other is the size of a textbook
gee which should I get, what a decision

>>20672989
And also, the notion that “Bigger is better! More bells and whistles are better! Pen Touch camera phone appstore VR video(etc etc etc) capabilities are better!!!” Is…just consumerist, overall.

>>20672034
>>20672109
>>20672300
Thanks bros.
Probably just gonna grab the paperwhite something something.
Maybe I'll finally get to read the HP books...

>>20673029
because no one wants to be in the sun staring at a screen. You hardly ever see people using ereaders out in the sun as well.

>>20673016
Users on /lit/ and /g/.
6" readers are smaller than real books.

>>20673044
Do you ever leave your basement?

>>20673049
The plus-point is that it fits in your hand. And so far, few are agreeing with your boox tablet size ereader advocacy

>>20673032
What do you read at home?

>>20673029
Because they don’t work in the office, when they’re out in the sun.

You trying to turn it into some ‘gotcha’, thinking people will start working outside just because their screen isn’t as reflective anymore is disconnected from office environments.

>Debates the feel of a tip
Just to show you the silliness of that argument:Don’t knock it till you tried it.

>>20673073
I've tried working with Apple iPads, hated the experience. My impression is people get them because they don't know any better.
There is this thing called home office that got popular in recent years and many people love to work in the sun.

>>20673084
That is your personal experience, it reflects nothing but your own. Doesn’t even speak for universities where, since covid, everyone’s gotten a tablet to take notes on.
>People get them because they don’t know any better, how can they not see the enlightenment in a functionally much more limited, slower device for their average purposes. Why do they go get something everyone agrees is good, and optimal for their purposes that aren’t even reading

Go work in the sun to your heart’s content, but most people, really, just don’t.

>>20673095
>Doesn’t even speak for universities where, since covid, everyone’s gotten a tablet to take notes on.
They get iPads out of blind consumerism since they don't bother to do any research. And then they are stuck with a fancy mirror that constantly needs recharging for itself and the pen.
They aren't even good for watching videos due to the aspect ratio.
It's iPads that are more limited due to Apple's app policy.
It's weird how this thread sees an issue in reading on a phone or computer but not on a tablet that uses the same screen technology.

>>20673130
>Thinks he is in any position to criticise consumerism with his, basically, lesser but just as expensive and matte IPad with a felt nib on the pen, see>>20673033

You’re still utterly dramatic about the reflections, which I get if your habit is pointing the tablet directly at the sun while you work outside. It still doesn’t speak for anyone else.

>Watches…videos, on a matte reader? Thinking the video streaming apps are better made for that than tablets?

>Criticizes recharging like Boox isn’t taking up much more charge than the average ereader

>”All these students who are used to doing research are just stupid, not seen the enlightenment yet”

At this point your arguments are, to say it like it is, clusterfuck. None apply to an average reader, but to you specifically. It is again fine if you’re just that turned off by everything else, but it’s no experience anyone else can share

>>20673032
Why does it need to fit in your pocket? Why would I spend more time outside of the comfort of my own home than I possibly need to?

>>20673157
The reflections are an issue indoors unless it's extremely dark. For brightly lit lecture halls etc it's extremely annoying.
You can get through a week of heavy use without recharging on a Boox. They may use more than a low powered reader but they have a larger battery to balance things out.
I prefer watching videos on a TV but I guess that's just me with my unique habits.

>>20673195
>The reflections are an issue indoors unless it's extremely dark. For brightly lit lecture halls etc it's extremely annoying.

Not really, dunno what disco shows your lecture halls are though so sorry for that. And the light of a tablet isn’t that blinding, eyeballs burning and skin melting sensation you make it out to be either, otherwise someone out of the hundreds of students would’ve stumbled upon your enlightened alternative

What makes you assume people aren’t watching videos on a TV? Why is watching videos on a tablet your point of critique when watching it on a Boox e-reader is by no means better?

>>20673067
Books, nigger

>>20673053
>>20673167
kek

>>20673167
If they are the same price why not? Portability is the top selling point of ereaders. You can carry a thousand books in your pocket or carry a thousand books in a slightly larger than A4 device. You can read both at home. One fits easily in the palm of your hand. As for the other, please upload a photo showing your comfortable reading posture with a foot-long screen in your handS.

>>20673465
Because comics are easier to read with bigger screens

>>20673520
Not him but most people, when they say they read, don’t mean comics

>>20673465
>comfortable reading posture with a foot-long screen in your hands.
Pretty much the same as reading a book. You have read books that are a feet across when opened, have you?
The advantage is that you can hold it and flip pages with one hand.

>>20673566
But anon…the standard ones you can hold and flip pages with just one hand…all at once too..and they’re not even a foot across…

>>20672576
>mobi is an older format, you're better off getting epubs.
I have a Kindle which is why I was wondering if it was worth switching to kobo for.

Been using calibre but I'm finding more and more that there are little bits and pieces that don't seem to convert properly

>>20674357
I have a Kindle too. it's still better to get epubs and convert them to azw3. I've never had an issue with conversion.

>should I buy AMAZON product it's on sale
Fucking retards itt

>>20667239
>that ppi
>not even a 2nd gen eink carta screen

>>20668600
>>20668610
Manga are at least 5% color, and have lots of focus on multipages. Manga and ereaders aren't compatible in that regard. You'd need two screens, at least 10x2 inch. I just don't think it's viable. besides the best manga are fully in color. There's only a dozen or so manga worth reading to begin with. It's cheaper just printing those out in a nice format.

>>20671939
I definitely read more on my ereader than I used to on my phone.

>>20674357
You can now send epub directly with your email to your kindle if you don't mind not having a calibre library.

should I bother getting a proper ereader if I read on a fire tablet just fine?

>>20668700
>I pirate the book, and if I liked it enough that I'd read it again then I buy it.
I do that too, but without the buying part.

>>20671335
I have an Glo HD (old, smaller) and a Forma (big, newer). They're both good. If I had to keep one it would be the Forma since it's bigger and faster and the battery is better, but I still read on the Glo all the time too.

Some of the books I want I could only find in pdf. Anyone know a actually good pdf to epub converter? I’m getting a Libra 2 and I don’t think pdfs work good on it

>>20674916
If the PDF is of a high enough quality, the conversion will work. If not, it won't. It's not some magic option you check.

Ereader threads shouldn't be allowed on /lit/, who agrees

>>20674916
cloudconvert i think? Idk that's what came up when I googled it

>>20674916
>>20673465
>>20665381
>>20666628

pdf to azw3
z-lib.org
never pay for a book.

>>20673566
>please upload a photo showing your comfortable reading posture
Still waiting for the photo of your comfortable posture with a 13" screen in your hands

>>20674870
eink is nice but if the fire doesn't bother you then no. Tablets have a ton of options for reducing blue light, night mode, scaling etc. and are quite functional as readers.

>>20672312
this is just your shitty epub that you converted.

I'm still waiting out for better advancements because I want my ereader to be 300ppi for comics and at least 10.3 so I can write in margins and notetake on the pages. I essentially want it to be my go-to slate as a replacment for paper. Colour I don't care about as much since I primarily read grayscale works but https://goodereader.com/blog/e-paper/etulipa-introduces-first-full-color-e-paper-display-based-on-second-gen-electro-wetting-tech seems interesting to look for in the future as I like the idea of having a big square tablet for children's books.

What's the benefit of android e-readers? Outside of a select few apps I don't see the point unless there's this crazy apk that lets you crack DRM or something?

>>20674810
>Manga are at least 5% color,
More like 1%. For compiled volumes the color pages are at the start so you can easily look them up on a color monitor while reading the rest on an ereader.
The 13" modules are Carta, the latest models use Carta 1200 and Carta 1250.

>>20675428
Most of the time I find the color pages grayscaled in digital form anyway. Color in manga is just the parts that don't matter.

>>20674916
Libra 2 can open pdf like pretty much any reader. They can struggle trying to render vectorized scans.
Reflowing is often going to yield poor results depending on the layout of the document.

>>20675426
For people that buy ebooks, having access to a ton of different stores is a useful feature.
Otherwise you can install different readers if you are unhappy with the defaults. Installing extra keyboards and dictionaries can be a useful option for foreign language reading.
Additionally there's cloud service clients and other software you might want to use.
It's not a necessity for everyone but the option to install more things doesn't hurt.

>>20675198
Very few people are going to upload pictures of themselves on the internet, let along on 4chan.
Why do you even need proof that it's possible to hold something the size of a sheet of paper? People read newspapers that are significantly larger without problems.

>>20674916
https://www.willus.com/k2pdfopt/ or KOreader for much better options for pdfs

>>20665381
How do I deal with the feeling of “After I get this book, I’ll be done and can stop shopping”

>>20674810
>best manga are fully in color
Into the trash you go

>>20675483
Absolutely nothing you say makes holding your reader sound comfortable m8

>>20675801
Do you have trouble holding anything larger than a postcard?
Maybe you can use one of these.
Add a remote control and you can stop moving your limbs altogether.

>>20675428
It’s recommended to read manga on a normal sized reader precisely due to a similiar size, your 13” stretches it out as a pdf. Your argument for bigger readers for comics only makes sense if we’re talking about Western, A4-sized Comics

>>20675811
You’re utterly disconnected from why most people are buying readers to begin with, think they actually want to read in something like it’s a newspaper, think no one minds holding that huge thing. It’s honestly sad how far you’ll go to twist something into some positive, when no one’s convinced

>>20675818
Manga is published in B5 sized magazines.
And you practically want to read in double page mode for things like spreads or proper layouts.

>>20675823
I fail to see how anybody has trouble holding something the size of a sheet of paper unless they are literal babies.
Common trade paperback books are the same size when opened.

>>20675844
>”The whole e-Reader demographic(of people reading books) is just a bunch of babies

The delusion. You refusing to see the superior comfort in something that fits in your hand-one of the reasons why people go from paperbacks to readers, is you coping beyond reasonable measure. Justifying your own investment to people just not interested, for the reasons you begrudgingly play down

>>20675826
>But what about spreads!! Those one in a hundred page manga spreeadds-
lol

>>20674916
>>20675520
or learn how to pdf to epub (time consuming)
https://archive.org/details/ebooksthatcutit_202001/mode/2up

is pic related a good mouse

>>20675865
Depends on the manga but you can get multiple spreads in a single chapter. They're a lot more common than color pages.
Famous authors have also stated that their works are intended to be read in double-page mode.

>>20675865
I started with a 6" reader, then I upgraded to 7.8" because I wanted something bigger and then I skipped 10" and went directly for the 13" because I still wasn't satisfied.
I never heard of anybody getting an ereader because paperbacks were too large for them to handle.

>>20675916
>I started with Just an iPhone, but then iPhone XS came along and I upgraded, still not big enough, I need it to be the size of a tablet, why do they make phones so small-

So far, that’s how your thinking comes off.
Probably no one can relate to you.

And you know that’s not the main reason, but one of them, and especially one against buying a reader as bulky as yours. If you need something that big that’s your matter, but acting as a free advertisement bot for a reader format people just aren’t interested in(nevermind that no one recommends your big boox for Manga, or anything above 13”), is sad.

>>20675936
*anything above 10”, and, believe it or not, those indeed do double page modes

>>20675936
>nevermind that no one recommends your big boox for Manga
Where do you get that from?
13.3" is the largest regular e-reader panel. The only thing beyond that are 25" monitors and digital signage.
The real reason most people don't get 13" readers is because they can't justify spending $800.

>>20675945
You can have double page mode on a 6" or even on a smartphone but it mainly becomes usable on a bigger format.

>>20675949
>Pol aren’t buying it just cuz they’re poor peasants >:(

You’re back at it again. It gets tiring arguing on the point after everyone told you why that argument is nonsense and you just pretend to forget those and needing to have it chewed again

Don’t theorise, do just one google search on e-readers for mangas and tell us when yours comes up

>>20675965
Maybe you should look at /a/ instead of casual central.
And saying mangas makes you look retarded.

>>20676044
>”Maybe you should look in my obscure forum for answers instead of those of the general public, fucking normies don’t know whats good. Neither does /lit/ when they don’t want my newspaper-sized reader. And saying ‘mangas’- pff, you retard pleb thats not the plural” t.

You are honestly the best advertisement against 13” readers, now I know how hard one copes after buying one

>>20674988
But shelf threads are. So bitching about one or two pointless threads isn't really going to change the perpetual need for them.

>>20675428
No. My 5% is accurate. Either way it just a small thing that adds to the whole. Anyhow the issue with 13inch and is still the dpi (ppi?). And obviously the price. It's simply much more expensive to put two screens next to eachother just to read a bunch of manga. I'm not saying nobody could afford it. Just that I personally don't think it worth. Just use a monitor. I also wonder how long an eink screen can survive on manga. It seems more intense use would wear earlier.

>>20675687
I'm sorry there's only a handful of manga worth reading. I'm not going to pretend this isn't the case. If you're dismissing the importance of color in a visual medium then you just got low standards.

>>20677312
>Anyhow the issue with 13inch and is still the dpi (ppi?)
The resolution is 2200x1650.
Some publishers are still stuck at x1200 and x1600 isn't uncommon. x2048 and x1920 are becoming more standard but they tend to blur the hell out of them so you don't really get a benefit.
The main exception are Houbunsha's 4koma releases from Comic FUZ, for those it's worth reading in single page to get the most detail.
What kind of manga do you read that get 5% color pages? Most series only get them when a new tankobon comes out and the color pages accordingly come at the start of the tankobon. Other color pages will be turned to grayscale for the print and digital tankobon.
For magazines you also don't get 5% color pages unless you count cover, adverts and non-manga content.

>>20677312
>I'm sorry there's only a handful of manga worth reading
Why are you trying to invoke Sturgeon's law?
It sounds like you are confusing Korean webtoons with manga. There's next to no full color manga aside from colorized crap.

>>20677382
Yes. I do count all of those things. I simply think the current investment one would need to do in order to read the few manga isn't worth it. The technology isn't there. The current standard (sample'd) is 3200-3684px Going down a bit to 2200px at the least. Given the current technology of e-ink it simply isn't worth it. Even if you somehow fix all these issues. You'll end up with two eink tablets glued to eachother. Just use a monitor. These are current year limits, these will only go up. No eink tablet comes even close. If you don't care for this advice then I don't really know what to say.

>>20677403
Okay. I didn't mean to sound like a dictator or anything. You do you. It simply something that adds up to the whole of the purchase.
>it sounds like except for
Real intelligent moment. You're just sour graping your way through a real issue you would run into that eink can't handle. If you're all for that inferior experience then do say so right off the bat. That would just mean you're illogical. I'm not here to understand the logics of that which is illogical in nature.

>>20677447
Name the full color manga you supposedly read.

>>20677452
How is that an argument? You believe I'm lying? You do not believe they exist? They need to be full-color why? I need to be reading them why? I don't understand the relevance. Why act in bad faith? What would I gain from being deceitful? What would I gain at all? Is my refusal to answer your bad faith argument confirmation of your right or are you able to understand why these questions are being asked without prejudice?

>>20677447
>The current standard (sample'd) is 3200-3684px
Not for manga. The only thing you'll get in such high resolutions are doujinshi since the authors don't feel themselves limited the same way as commercial publishers. No Japanese publisher uses those resolutions.

>>20677471
>not for manga
Yes for manga. We're talking about manga you double nigger.
>the only thing dude porn
You sound like a fucking retard and I fucking take this shit personally.

>>20677468
Are we referring to the same post? >>20675687
refuted that the best manga are full color. Do you actually read manga at all?

>>20677482
You didn't respond to the contents in my post. Are you capable of responding?

>>20677478
Show us your 3200-3684px manga samples.

>>20677486
If we can agree that full color manga barely exists and doesn't represent the best of the medium then there's nothing left to discuss.

>>20677487
Why? You already claimed they do not exist. When that's the current average for modern releases. This implies you don't believe me. Not that you did your own research and concluded this fact.

>>20677494
Why can you not respond to the contents of my post? And how can something that barely exist not also represent the best of something? That is objectively speaking a non sequitur.

>>20665482
No

>>20677505
The fact that you can't name a single full color manga shows that you are full of shit.

>>20665381
My Boox Nova 3 is extremely comfy. It runs android so you're able to install third party readers and access the filesystem.

It's got a bit of Chinese jank around the edges like a useless store with bizarre titles. But it also comes with a pen and you can take notes with it in a well-developed app.

AiReader android app allows me to scroll line by line which is comfy and completely customize the font and margins.

It has warm and cool LEDs. I also did some android tweaking on the home button to make it turn the page instead of going home.

It's a fun toy if you enjoy fiddling with android.

>>20677505
>When that's the current average for modern releases.
Here's the current state for the main publishers:
Koudansha - x1600
Shogakukan - x2048
Shueisha - x1200
Akita Shoten - x2048
Square Enix - x1920
Kadokawa - x2048
Ichijinsha - x2048
Hakusensha - x1200
Futabasha - x1600
Houbunsha - x1920
Bunkasha - x1200
Shonengahosha - x1920
Takeshobo - x2048
Nihonbungeisha - x1200
Shinchosha - x1920
Micromagazine - x1600
Leed-sha - x2064
Kill Time Communication - x1920
Mag Garden - x1920
Flex Comics - x1920

These companies are responsible for most non-pornographic manga. The numbers are for tankobon, magazines can be the same or worse, for instance Shogakukan or Akita Shoten still use x1200 for their magazines.

>>20677675
>like a useless store with bizarre titles.
There are two stores. A Chinese one that's commercial and the English one that's just a bunch of links to Project Gutenberg.

I saw a kindle at this pawn shop for $10 but they didn't have the pin number
is there a way to factory reset it without unlocking it?

>>20679125
should be possible but that would require plugging it into a PC and using some CLI tool (I think, just Google it or check xda developers forum)

You can use the command line CLI tool to decode the personal PIN number, and viola.

Thinking of getting a Kobo Clara HD as my first eReader. Can anyone speculate whether they'll update the Clara within the next 6-12 months? Does Kobo follow any form of release pattern or schedule?

>>20680343
Kobo even supports the Touch from 2011.
https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kobo_Firmware_Releases

>>20680367
sugoi i bought the libra 2 plus i went ahead and bought the mx master 3s >>20675874
i didnt buy a sleepcover because it appeals to homosexuals

>>20681630
Just be careful not to scratch the surface in your pocket.

>>20681630
There’s comfy cases you could buy for it if you’re used to carrying readers in bags, no worries of scratching