/lit/ - Literature

Water Sleeps

>>20661382
Soldiers Live

>>20661334
Good survivor's room pic desu, even looks authentic if not for the lack of dirt and stains, it's a bit sterile. Any good books with people surviving the apocalypse and having to work for their survival, creating communities again etc.? Something like Fallout video game series (the classic ones). Can even be Fantasy, not only Modern Fantasy or Sci-fi.

Sandi Drools

>>20661382
>>20661417
Sweetwater, Wind Farm

>>20661334
Books like berserk lost children arc?

>>20661485
I don't know what that means

>>20661488
What do you not understand?
Berserk
Lost children arc
Books like it

>>20661514
>Lost children arc
why should I know what this means

>>20661334
Can you categorise The Wizard Knight as isekai? It’s also a bit DnDesque or MtGesque with the multiple worlds being similar to Multiverses and Planejumping.

>>20661528
You’re on an anime site dude. Start reading the manga at least if you wanna talk here.
>>20661485
I think Bakker ticks some of the boxes but a bit, but some also say Robert E Howard (which I kind of disagree with although I love him). Just write what you want to read.

>>20661542
Bayne?

>>20661616
Bayne Omnibus

>>20660277
Try the Broken Sword. It's short, and about a war between elf and troll.

>>20661734
Upgrade

Upgrade again

>>20661334
What are you reading and what are you planning to read?

>>20661755
Orion Shall Rise.
I plan to read Fifth Head of Cerberus

>fight passage starts
>start skipping paragraphs until it ends
I don't bother reading fights anymore, it's no different from bloat to me at this point
anyone else skips particular things when reading?

Move to trash

>>20661755
currently reading mother of learning, I'm like 70 chapters in, I have been reading it for like 2 months now
it's nice, I don't know what to read next though

>>20661603
>start reading manga if you want to talk in the literature board
??
there is a board dedicated to anime & manga, I don't come here for that

>>20661755
really enjoying the trilogy, very well written and haven't been able to put it down

Delete.

>>20661466

>>20661783
Eh, I sometimes skip POVs and flashbacks if author is abusing them, stalling the story or just fucking up pacing, usually return back to catch up but that depends on story.

When it comes to fights I think authors sometimes forget that mechanical description of the fight is the bare bones of it, not end all be all. Emotional weight, narrative significance, exploration of chaacter's and enemies abilities and/or personality all contribute to actually making a fight worth reading.

>>20661792
Newfaggot, how did you find this place? This is literally a weeaboo website intended to discuss anime and manga started by a weeb using code from Japs. Go back to “read it” if you want books only discussion.

How does libgen have ebooks that aren’t (and never were) even commercially available?

The more she drank, the more she shat.

>>20661889
shadowy cabal of literary pirates, that's the only explanation
that place has everything
>>20661881
fuck off to /a/ and stop polluting our threads

>>20661889
epubs mostly are just zipped html files Anon. It's not hard to make them.

>>20661881
fuck off
iv been here since like 2012 and rarely enjoy anime shit since i became an adult

>>20661923
I don’t think you understood my point. There are literally no commercially available (and never were) options to buy the digital version(that includes epub, html, pdf etc…) of certain niche books who only ever had 1 edition. There were only ever first editions printed in paperbacks and hardcovers.

My question is, did someone in the publisher leak it or did they literally digitalised the paper version and converted it somehow to an epub?

Scuppered

>>20661950
Mr. Pynchon, how do you edit a pdf?

>>20661737
>>20661738
What?

>>20661950
I think there has to be some digital initiative undertaken by publishers to preserve whatever they publish as online media which eventually gets leaked or perhaps just becomes open sourced after a while.
I see no other explanation, maybe this anon is right >>20661912 and there's some underground society dedicated to just turning every physical copy out there into a digital one and putting it on libgen

And when was ice-cream invented?

>>20661755
Dust of Dreams. Next up The Crippled God. This series is so good it's ruined fantasy for me.

>>20661963
it was never invented, ice cream was discovered

>>20661912
>our threads
Do you self identify with all the other retards who worship western goyslop?
>>20661947
Then don’t come to an anime website.

don't feed the troll lads, you know what to do

>>20661962
>underground society
You can really just open a book and copy it dude. It’s not hard. Given that piracy relies on a community of those who give back means people will do it organically.

t. discovered Sweden

>>20661979
or the troll

>>20661985
most tech savvy people do not read obscure stuff, the ones that are reading one edition fantasy novels are old people who don't know what libgen is

>>20661786
How did it take you 2 months to read 70 chapters? I know it's a fairly long read, but do you just only read a chapter or so a day?

>>20662067
The whole thing is 800,000+ words

>>20662067
being a wagie is honestly suffering, I don't have enough time to read, I pick it up almost every night before going to sleep so I mostly read around 1 to 2 chapters per day, sometimes more, sometimes none at all

>>20662081
I read it in, I think a couple weeks?

>>20662112
Do you have a job?

>>20662124
Education. I read about 3-5 hours a day.

>>20661950
There are a lot of companies that offer book scanning services. It's not expensive. Assuming Google or some academic organization didn't already pay to have it scanned, or the publisher didn't leak it.

Why do you consider sci-fi and fantasy to be the superior genres of literature?

>>20662112
>Hey guys I'm like so smart 800,000 words isn't even that much.

>>20662422
to be fair it's not, I'm the anon he was replying to and the only reason I'm taking so long to read it is because of work, if I was still in college I'd probably finish it in a couple of weeks too
>>20662391
I don't, but I prefer to read fiction over non-fiction in most cases.

>>20662422
>newfag embarrasses himself in front of everyone
>can't even greentext properly
lole

VRMMO is quickly becoming its own genre and its really fucking good. I think this one is going to be here to stay and there will be many many stories set like this. There is something so perfect about how it can merge fantasy and science fiction, and creates a perfect environment for story telling.

I don't know what you're talking about.

>>20662455
VRMMO may be the worst idea that has ever happened in literature. There is no better way to get rid of all tension by setting your novel in a VRMMO. This is especially true in litrpgs that could've been done much better in an actual fantasy world. Why settle for virtual simulations when you can just write the real thing into reality and have actual consequences?

>>20662455
>>20662495
The duality of man.

>>20662495

Why settle for fucking magic when you can set your fantasy story in the real world with somewhat hard science fiction to back it up?

I'm about finished with The Colour of Magic and I think I want to continue reading Discworld. Should I continue reading the Rincewind novels or can I jump to the Death novels instead? Is The Light Fantastic a direct sequel to Colour of Magic where it's a cohesive story, or is it just another novel featuring Rincewind?

>>20662432
For a single book yeah 800k is a lot

>>20662455
>>20662495
I haven't liked any VRMMO stories, but I think none of them really used the medium to it's best.
For one, the biggest and most obvious feature is having two, or more, narrative layers automatically. Usually this is immediately thrown away and it just becomes a litrpg, or the layers are merged and become basically indistinguishable.
But a lot more can, and should be done with this. You may say it's about escapism so who wants to read about real life, but if you put that aside it's obvious that anyone who actually spends thousands of hours playing an MMO has it significantly affect their lives. Even without a narrative people make friends, form relationships, get married, seek employment, etc... and frequently play multiple different games with the same group of people.

So, assuming you're writing about such a group, what kind of story would make sense in all the layers without invalidating any of them?
I.e. if you go too "real" it's just a story about a bunch of NEETs staring at blinking lights, and if you go too "fake" it becomes a fantasy litrpg.
I think the closest thing to a working example would be TRON, though it's not really high quality the entire cycberspace story is directly tied to the real life story and vise versa.

Bakker is King,

It is simple as.

Incoherence principles revoked.

>>20662455
No stakes
The only ones that do have stakes are generally because the users are trapped or whatever, which leads to generic Isekai shit

Rabbinical privileges preserved

How underground..

Essenes vs. Sadducees

>>20662455
>VRMMO
my primary issue with this premise is how artificial it reads, it's neither fantasy nor sci-fi, everything happens in a fake simulated environment which makes all attempts at world building seem uninteresting because at the end of the day I know we're just following some fag with a VR headset from his mom's basement.

>>20662455
This literally reads like a reddit comment

>VRMMO
Imagine volunteering to become mazed.

who in their right mind would pick this shit up?

read cradle

Any stories with mercenary bands?

>>20662572
Truth Shines, Sandi Whines.

Simply put.

>>20662634
Malazan, black company

If you say so!

>>20662525
The Light Fantastic is a fairly direct sequel, as Discworld goes. If you're reading from the start, just read them in publication order, it's better that way. The books all build on each other, so just reading a single sub-series weakens it overall.

Base.

>>20661963
Depends on what kind of ice cream you mean. Wikipedia page goes into that, start there.

>>20662626
me

>>20661334
When it get good?

>>20662422
800k words of modern web novel tier prose is like 300k from a good new wave / 80s revival author.

>>20662626
I read through the first 4 volumes, but finally stopped. It has a fucking mind boggling amount of filler bullshit that and nothing happens to hundreds of pages. I usually get suckered into finishing long shit due to the sunken cost fallacy, but even I stopped this. I powered through Worm, despite hating it towards the end, but this was too much.

>>20661438
Alas, Babylon

>>20662631
It's so bad, but I can't get enough. I also read Wight's Travler's Gate books, which were equally trash but also entertaining.

How about an adventure with a genderbent companion?

>>20662626
>who in their right mind would pick this shit up?
Tens of thousands of people read it for free, over 5k people pay to read it. That in itself should tell you that at the very least it does SOMETHING right. It's just a good story and makes people want to read more.

>>20662917
If it's popular it can't be good

>>20662804
I don't read Web novels so I wouldn't know

>>20662917
This is what I thought about sandersoy

what's a book that's similar to fellowship of the ring? i mostly mean in that it only has a few characters on a journey, lots of nature stuff, and exploring

>>20662987
Wizards First Rule

>>20662917
>Stealing money from gullible teens
Scumbag confirmed

>>20662917
Wish this were me...

>>20662917
>11k$ to 47k$
>probably lives in a third world country, so is basically set for life with just a year of those earnings
Must be nice

>>20662993
>teens
i highly doubt that
also its pacing it way too slow for teens.

>the female characters unapologetically exist only to get raped, killed, or mained in some way
which author am i thinking of /sffg/?

>>20661334

any books with cool dragonpeople races?

>>20663029
>probably lives in a third world country
what

>>20663072
That's the type of question you could ask google or any search engine if you actually cared about finding books with cool dragonpeople races

>>20662626
soulless bug "people" who like anime with 900,000 episodes of spiky haired fags charging up their power levels

>>20663091
yeah so he can get the smashing 2021 release of a book with a dragonperson that's really about being non-binary
fuck off cunt, just answer the man

>>20663094
>just answer the man
I did, he could use google to find his books.

>>20663091

I tried that once.
>>20663094

>>20663072
Try google. If not google, then bing or any other search engine. Should give you answers within the minute.

>>20663100
you know when you stand before the gates of heaven they're going to bring up your petty mischief

>>20663106
Answer a question is petty mischief now?

>>20662917
how the fuck does this work. Nigga just has his own website and markets on social media and gets this kind of following? I guess I dont know much about web novels

>>20663092
there's suprisingly few "charging up power levels" moments and typical litrpg character sheet wankery, I'd compare it with a long running slice of life anime instead mixed with some regular fantasy stuff

>>20663107
tick tock, bitch
you won't be here forever

>>20663109
Pretty sure they started and got popular on Royal Road, easier to start over there I guess.

worth reading?

>>20663118
Read them and find out.

>>20663109
keep in mind this one of the more successful cases. it's not that easy gaining a following.

>>20663118
It’s varies from person to person, so you should read them and form your own opinion.

>>20661755
Did I miss anything by not getting the 50 year retrospective?

>>20663069
Ayn Rand? GRRM?

>>20663118
Couldn't get past the first couple of chapters. Been a while so I can't remember why

>>20663072
Unironically, The Wandering Inn. The story takes place mostly in the lands of Drakes, people created by Dragons thousands of years ago. Rich world-building about their relations with 'Ancestors,' as they call Dragons. I think at least half of the characters in the story are Drakes. I don't play DnD so I'm unsure how dragon-like people are usually portrayed, but in TWI they are combination of Roman Empire and polite British nobles, if that makes sense. Very militaristic.

>>20663176
>Unironically, The Wandering Inn
And ignored. Fuck off already.

Congratulations anon, after all these weeks forcing TWI you finally convinced me, I'll be buying the books tomorrow

Is this book good? Gene Wolf quotes it so I assume it must be, yet I never hear it mentioned.

>>20661755
Just finished The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu and Inhibitor Phase by Alastair Reynolds.
I've gone through most of Reynolds' work at this point.
Does anyone know of good, hard, scifi. The kind that leaves you uneasy about the deep future or humanity's place in it?

>>20663109
>>20663113
>>20663127
The Wandering Inn took a lot of time to get going. The author, Pirateaba, said that it took over 6 months for the story to get more than one comment per chapter, but they were in for the long-haul. If anything can be said about the author, is that they are like a machine. They never break the schedule, even when they are sick. TWI has better average quality than anything of this size has any right to, and its the consistency that's staggering. Above-average fantasy story, 25k+ words long chapters, every Tuesday and Saturday. Month by month, for over 6 years. A monster of a writer. If there's any work/success equation, Pirateaba breaks it.

>>20663230
Starwars books

>>20663118
I enjoyed them 'enough's. I read the first four and haven't really had the urge to jump back in. The setting and characters are solid but the dialogue can be really corny at times. Worth a read if you can get book one for free

>>20663236
>25k+ words long chapters, every Tuesday and Saturday.

jfc that is nuts.

Most people who make money off of patreon are so the opposite. I have noticed what I call the "patreon flu" where everyone with a large following starts to have health problems most likely as an excuse to slack off. Because patrons are pay pigs and rarely unsub even if you spend a year jerking off

>>20663238
I lol'd
Between grades 3 and 12 I read around 60 starwars EU novels. That was how I got my start in Scifi

>>20663069
Tanith Lee?

>>20663236
25k is 50 pages, where I'm at it's about 20 pages per chapter and I thought that was already long. How tf am I supposed to catch up

>>20661950
Come across any good examples? I like hunting down "rare" ebooks, or just ebooks that collect material that you cant find on Amazon, Kobo, etc.
One I can share is searching up "jerry ebooks" on b-ok. Guy makes well-formatted ebooks of pulp stories and anthologies, as well as the serialized versions of novels like Dune or The Stars My Destination.

>>20662885
What was happening when you dropped it?

>>20663252
>Most people who make money off of patreon are so the opposite. I have noticed what I call the "patreon flu" where everyone with a large following starts to have health problems most likely as an excuse to slack off. Because patrons are pay pigs and rarely unsub even if you spend a year jerking off
I have one counter example of the biggest retard to ever write in the entire webnovel sphere. A guy was writing a typical reincarnation OP MC LitRPG, mostly slice of life I'd say, and he had a gigantic success on Royalroad. The story was genuinely below average, even for a webnovel LitRPG, but he was consistent enough to quickly explode into over 11k $ dollars per month on Patreon. And he was only posting like 10k words per week.

He was literally done with life, he could milk it for years and even if he really fucked up the story he'd at most lose 50% of those subscribers. And you know what that retard did? That fucking fool? He said that he's been putting so much work into it he got depressed. WORK, HE SAID. It was one of the most cliche, typical LitRPG stories on the Royalroad. Basically next to zero effort necessary, just slice of life shit with numbers going up. And then he just suddenly vanished, and hadn't spoken a word for months. Not even an annoucement.

Eventually he returned, and continued to write, but the damage was done. During the silence he went from 11k Patreon bucks to 1k. When he started posting again it only went up to 1.500$. Still decent for any story, but a monumental decline. Once you lose the readerbase, it's not going back. There are many more Litrpgs out there, and majority better than the story he writes.

And that's the story of how Magical-Smithing went from one of the most successful webnovels to shit. Even if you make it, being a retard will still make you lose it.

>>20661950
>converted it somehow to an epub
That takes some black magic to do.... or Calibre

>>20662917
>over 5k people pay to read it.
yes it is a serialised story, each chapter is basically catered towards those 5k readers. A much more important question is who are those readers? Are they straight white males or are they red**it coomers, roaties and trannies?

>>20663323
>A much more important question is who are those readers? Are they straight white males or are they red**it coomers, roaties and trannies?
Go back to /pol/ you faggot.

>>20663289
>25k is 50 pages, where I'm at it's about 20 pages per chapter and I thought that was already long. How tf am I supposed to catch up
You only need to read at your own pace, at worst you will have a sea of content to go through however you wish to. But Reading a typical 30k TWI chapter takes around 2-3 hours, so you can easily catch up in time. Chapters haven't even got that long until Volume 6-7, so they aren't all that long.

Anyway, once the addiction kicks in, you will find yourself sprinting towards the current chapter. Many experience withdrawal effects once they catch up.

>>20663323
>A much more important question is who are those readers? Are they straight white males or are they red**it coomers, roaties and trannies?
son, you need to take a break from the internet, it's not doing you any good.

>>20663334
The only people reading these Web novels are terminally online.

>>20663315
Oh, I forgot the pic

>>20663230
CJ Cherryh, Company Wars

>>20663313
I have shit memory retention, but a big war just ended against a necromancer. I think both he and some "good" guy died together at the end. I liked the overarching story and the litrpg gimmick, but there was way too much irrelevant shit that didn't add to the main story and some of the characters, like the fucking runner girl, were awful and I hated their sections.

Anyone a fan of Forgotten Realms?
I've been playing d&d for a while and decided to jump into the novels. I'm reading the Dark Elf trilogy now, and throughly enjoying it.

Has anyone read Elminster? I'd like to read about a powerful wizard, but don't want to read another coming of age story. Can I skip the first book, or will I be completely lost?

>>20663340
>terminally online
Gee thanks, never realised how horrifyingly apt that term is, anon.

>>20663189
That's some interesting Tales of Symphonia fanart

>>20663340
Readers of those novels especially ones like twi are very much like hardcore mmo gamers, or anime/manga merchandise collectors or those people who spend thousands supporting their favorite streamer/ cam girl etc (and go broke in the process, or worse...), they attract a certain crowd, a crowd that has mental issues and is mostly unable to have a social life irl, when these people finally find someone who caters to their awkward, embarassing and often disturbing mental needs they will spend every last penny on it. It is almost like an obsession and if someone can monetise a crowd like this they will set for life.

>>20663366
>Anyone a fan of Forgotten Realms?
>I've been playing d&d for a while and decided to jump into the novels. I'm reading the Dark Elf trilogy now, and throughly enjoying it.
Enjoying Drizzt books is like Anti-Filter, it marks you as a retard, freak to be pointed out by others and laughed at. When I read it, I was a youth full of naivete, not yet aware how bad a book can get. After a few books about Drizzt I was barely coherent, a wretch of a person.

Drizzt books are the worst fantasy books I've ever read in my life and Salvatore is an absolute retard. Just read what he wrote in the afterwords of one of those books, he spoke about being unaware that outside of DnD a man being stabbed mostly means that he's dead, people normally don't have Health points after all. And it SUPRISED him. Holy shit, please spare yourself humiliation and stop reading Salvatore.

>>20663386
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

>>20662626
>check it out since it's shilled here
>isekai with system

>>20663400
Eh, the problem wih his post is that it's an over generalisation, certainly such people are more likely to lose themselves reading such novels but I doubt they constitute even a quarter of the readership.

>>20663392

>>20663392
Yeah, I mostly agree. Drizzt is a terrible character to boot -- Mary Sue with ridiculous philosophical asides thrown in now and then.

I liked the first Ed Greenwood Elminster book better. But keep in mind that this is just on the scale of D&D-branded fantasy, so it's a pretty low bar. I only read this shit in order to get more into the Forgotten Realms setting for my TTRPG sessions.

>>20663345
>>20663315

Thats crazy too. My example would be ICSTOR or something... porn game maker who hasnt done shit in like 3 years and still pulling in 8 grand a month or so.

Im thinking maybe the webnovel crowd has higher expectations. You cant easily make excuses about development for writing as you can for a game. I cant imagine being depressed while making 11 grand a month just to write my fan fic tier web novel.

>>20663422
I know it's low bar and I don't care. I picked it up for that reason. My kindle is full of big brain books if I want to read something with more substance. Sometimes I just want to read fluff.
Tell me about Elminster. Do I need to start at The Making of Elminster, or can I jump ahead a little bit? I don't want to read another coming of age book.

>>20663435
>Tell me about Elminster. Do I need to start at The Making of Elminster, or can I jump ahead a little bit? I don't want to read another coming of age book.
You have to read it and find out, anon. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

>>20663410
There is no way a normal person would pay a monthly fee enough to buy an actual (e)book of at least several hundred pages just to read couple of chapters.

>>20663444
whatever nigger

>>20663454
Reported and blocked

>>20663444
Sorry man, I only read "Making of a Mage" in that series. It's pretty much coming-of-age, though it has some curveballs, FWIW.

>>20663452
Nah, you are wrong anon, it depends entirely on perceived value of both chapters (entertainment) and dollars, if your paycheck is high enough where couple bucks a month is mere pittance you are happy to forget about in much the same manner people forget about all the garbage taking up space in their download folder decision to pick up a patreon sub to something you particularly enjoy is a perfectly valid one. Not to mention people don't just do it for "chapters" but also to get access and feel that they contribute to continuation of the story, not to mention rewarding/thanking author for their work. I honestly doubt the kind of folks you describe even constitute 1/8 of most sub bases because in reality they are very rare.

I only read big brain books on my kindle

>>20663452
they're doing it to support the author.
i'm actually thinking it's the exact opposite of what that anon said. i think the people who'd support writers/artists on patreon are normies. normies with disposable income.
also it's fucking ridiculous to put them in the same category as people who support camgirls and streamers. or to compare camgirl simps to merchandise collectors. or add to that MMO gamers, which has nothing in common with any of this.
that post was just a giant clusterfuck.

>>20663479
such as?

>>20663482
The assassins apprentice

>>20663472
Majority of webnovels attempt to create a sort of community, the most common benefit of being a Patron is getting the chapters earlier and having special channels on Discord where people can talk amongst themselves, instead of being treated like peasants. Very profitable.

>>20662776
>tr/a/nny
of course

>>20663487
If you pay to be in a Discord server really are a retard and probably low iq enough to enjoy Web novels.

>>20662987
anon...i've been searching for something like this for years.

>>20663490
They will never rule supreme.

this nigga impregnates his sister

>>20663487
So the patrons "rule supreme" in discord, while the peasants rage and scream in /sffg/? if I was litrpg screamer I would pay some money to get the supreme treatment instead of raging and screaming on here, I don't care if they can't afford it, they can eisely suck some cock once a month and pay to live supremely and discuss with like minded people instead of this misery in /sffg/ treated like peasants among the supremes.

>>20663323
lol I can say that shilling your work on reddit will get you a lot farther than shilling it here. But you cant make blanket judgments. I pay people on patreon. If someone adds a lot of joy to my life and charges me nothing, I am happy to give a little money back.

>>20663512
It's really sad that you waste your life away spamming these threads 24/7.

>>20663208
It's excellent, one of the best picaresques I've ever read. Real shame it isn't more widely read.

>>20663072
categorically none

>>20663482
Stormlight saga

>>20663487

I am trying to do this and I have my discord open to the public and I let the unsubscribed talk in the general chat. But they dont have a cool rank and their name comes in a basic color not a glowing neon one. Do you think thats good or should I be even harder on those who dont pay?

I want for there to be a decent amount of discussion on the discord so I feel like maybe ramping up the class divides is something to do later on when there isnt a lack of people and conversation. What do you think?

Dance turns 11 today. Say something nice about it or something you're looking forward to in WINDS if it ever comes out haha.


For me, it's seeing what bullshit we're gonna see unfold in Oldtown when Samwell, Jaqen H'ghar and Sarella Sand are all looking for the Glass Candle together while Euron prepares to assault the city.

>>20663546
Make it not only harder on those who don't pay but make tiers of payment, the peasant tier and the supreme tier, the peasant tier can participate in the general chat while the non-payers read only, the supreme tier get full access and also are allowed to bully peasants and post spoilers(they get it earlier).

>>20663563
Yeah for sure. I have 6 tiers and all kinds of little rewards with gated release dates but I had been debating whether or not the plebs should get to talk in general chat. Youve made a compelling argument ITT

>>20663550
>Say something nice about it
It made me loos every shred of investment I had into the series.
And gave me a healthy aversion to reading unfinished books.

>>20663511
And? That shit was done all the time in norse and greek mythology.

>>20663452
Get with the times, nowadays people pay $10 a month each for a dozen streaming services and only use three.

>>20663574
Add tempting rewards in the highest tier, and make the non-payers suffer the most, while the cheap payers get the crumbs, perfectly balanced.

Hey guys, I don't come here often but I'm in dire need of a good book recommendation, preferably sci-fi.
My favourite author overall is probably Lem and most recently Peter Watts and Greg Egan. No female authors.

>>20663638
Reverend Insanity.

>>20663643
Not a faggot, so I'll pass.

>>20663638
Vernor Vinge would be my rec

>>20663574

See now I think he has the right idea BUT if you don’t have a big following it’s better to use honey than vinegar. I would let the unsubscribed talk and build that community for you. While also allowing those who pay to get the benefits and shit on them. That’s just my 2 cents, a lot of the unsubscribed will bend the knee if they find themselves engaged with the community, and don’t want to be on the bottom tier anymore

>>20663472
>if your paycheck is high enough where couple bucks a month is mere pittance you are happy to forget about
>>20663481
>they're doing it to support the author.
>i'm actually thinking it's the exact opposite of what that anon said. i think the people who'd support writers/artists on patreon are normies. normies with disposable income

unlikely that these people are highly paid, no well off person will throw money away just like that (but the poor will do exactly that). Best case scenario they work some dead end jobs and just don't spend much because they do very little irl, more likely they are just mentally ill scum on welfare, when people are given free money or free stuff they have no real appreciation of it and they just waste it without second thought.

>>20663626
yeah, basically poor people

>>20663673
There are plenty of baseddevs making 100k+ a year and spend it all of kinds of loot crates and collectibles.

>>20663643
preferably something western too
>>20663660
I'll be checking him out

>>20663687
Oniondevs*

>>20662917
>litrpg
>good
lol

>>20663688
>>20663660
oh, and if you are into that "darker" end of SF, you might also dig Harlan Ellison.

>>20663662
its a fucking hard decision. You do kill more flies with honey. I am trying to put myself into the headspace of a zoomer who cares about discord enough to pay for a higher rank and I cant really understand how they think at all.

>>20663695
nice, thanks
I think these two will suffice for now

>>20663687
Kek twitter bots pretending to be real people shilling for their retard lootboxes

>>20663550
never bothered reading it, A Feast for Crows killed off any interest i had in the books

>>20663673
>unlikely that these people are highly paid, no well off person will throw money away just like that (but the poor will do exactly that).
lol. again, you really have no idea. being "well off" means you can spend money on whatever the fuck you want.
again, the keyword is disposable income.

What are you guy's favorite wuxia/xianxia? I started reading a few on Royalroad but I realized that's all stuff written by people trying to emulate or parody actual Chinese web novels, I'm also looking for the original stuff.
I just finished ISSTH book one, other stuff on the list: Against the Gods, Renegade Immortal, The Legendary Mechanic

War of the Maps
by Paul McAuley

>>20663713
Has this guy made a new novel yet since RI got banned in China?

>>20663786
>royalroad
"ave xia rem y" and beware of chicken are two of the better ones on RR. the former plays it straight while the latter is a parody.
people also reccomend forge of destiny but it's not really for me.

for chinese stuff i recommend lord of the mysteries and release that witch. they aren't exactly xianxia since they have a western setting, but they're still progression fantasy.
there are other famous ones that fit the genre better, but i haven't read them.
for fluff try "ascending, do not disturb"

>>20663786
i dont read chinkshit

>>20663786
Journey to the West

>>20663627

Do we believe majority of patreon subs are done out of appreciation or incentives?

This is actually the question and knowing the answer could make a huge difference in ones success.

>>20663786
Savage divinity is the only novel I actually bothered re-reading and enjoyed it because I couldn't find anything that hits quite the same notes of character and world development combined with decent mix of struggle, harem and slice of life.

Deeply flawed work, but I'd recommend giving a couple dozen chapters a shot despite that, tho if you hate POV shifting avoid it like the plague, it makes extensive use of it to expand and expound upon it's characters.

I can probably recommend you a fair deal of CN stuff but I'd need to know what you are looking for? By the numbers cultivation(Legend of the Great Sage)? Emotional impact(Against the gods was the first I remember reading and despite it's many issues remains one that plays with emotions the best in my experience. Spirit Vessel is decent too)? Comedy(Keyboard Immortal)? Politics(Joy of Life)? Some other twist?

>>20663786
For wuxia specifically there's basically only Mao Ni who does decent stuff. I've heard Death Sutra is good as well

>>20663895
I'm not sure how serious you are folks but keep in mind that healthy and functional discord will provide you better source of feedback to refine your writing.

>>20663546
>I am trying to do this and I have my discord open to the public and I let the unsubscribed talk in the general chat. But they dont have a cool rank and their name comes in a basic color not a glowing neon one. Do you think thats good or should I be even harder on those who dont pay?
>I want for there to be a decent amount of discussion on the discord so I feel like maybe ramping up the class divides is something to do later on when there isnt a lack of people and conversation. What do you think?
I think that even in the beginning stage of creating community there should be the entire 'Patreon' side of Discord. Of course, if there are only 2-3 people who actually are subscribed to you the following of the story is very small, then it might not be used too much, but in any other than tiny community people will organically trend towards the patreon channel, the discussion among the subscribers is always considered better. Every single Discord of an author is like that. If you want to do community seriously, you need the patreon side of discord. That's just 101 of being an online author.

HOWEVER. Even though there are different levels of patroning, they all should have access to the same channels, with the only exception being the discussion of the released chapters if you do the typical 'Rank 1 support - 5 chapters ahead, rank 2 support - 10 chapters ahead' etc. I must add that existence of one, special channel for the mods and the biggest supporters might in order, one that offers tidbits and backstage knowledge about the story, like 'what would have happened if...' Not as a side stories, just casual information that has the taste of mystery as the scrubs and the poor don't have access to it. Only the inner circle.

That's my thesis on proper Webnovel Discord structure. Fosters discussion, rewards the supporters, keeps the commoners in check.

>>20663831
Yes, but its garbage.

>>20663786
Read Human Emperor

>>20663897
What do you think about the differences between the protagonist's morality and that of people around him, after he reincarnated?

>>20663968
So, just like RI then?

>>20663968
was just about to say that. There was nothing special about RI, aside from the villain MC, until around 1-1.5k chapters in when everything came together

>>20663345
>>20663315
I admit i was dumb enough to give the guy money once. Sticking in the starter village for 100 chapters should have been the first warning sign.

hi, I just finished reading Lovecraft's "At the mountains of madness". the novella is more science fiction than it is horror despite Lovecraft being its author.
what I enjoyed about the book was the hyper-realistic scientific insight combined with the sense of mystery and exploration.
can someone recommend books about exploration with sci-fi elements which include similarly detailed and vibrant scientific underpinnings of the phenomena in the short stories/novels etc.?

Books for this feel?

>>20664058
https://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Carl-Sagan/dp/0345539435

>>20663600
And it's based

>>20663989
I'm guessing you are asking in lieu of my post in the last thread subject of good vs evil. Well, that depends on whether you are asking for personal opinion or assessment on how well it's portrayed.

Lemme start with the worst part, objectively and subjectively, the Defiled and half the antagonists are a mess, author puts a great deal of effort into portraying them but where as he succeeds with most factions and most characters, the Defiled are a mess because their motivations and characters are often used to drive the plot rather than exploring them as it's used elsewhere. The make enough sense in-universe not to make a complete mess of things but they are by far the weakest and most flawed faction.

When it comes to Rain himself, personally I think the ideas he clings to most of the time are naive, sometimes extremely so, to his detriment, but they are functional enough for someone who doesn't seem to have had much interest in the subject prior to reincarnation. There is a lot to praise about how well author manages to portray his personal issues and his moral views and how they clash not only with the world but with each other. The biggest problem is that author is too fond of repeating himself often to the detriment of writing quality. In and of itself a character remaining troubled despite understanding what makes him so is a very realistic and appealing portrayal to me, but it often flops in execution of first person chapters.

The People and Imperial Provinces are all fairly well portrayed as the author is actually able to explore them without having to strongarm them for plot's sake, and since the characters don't appear as often as Rain does they do not encounter as many of the same issues of repetition he suffers.

It's also worth noting that rain's character ark kind of dragged itself to death in part because author decided to tie the personal revelation required to unstuck it to something that happens very very late in the story, so keep in mind that while Rain's character develops it's not getting too far from the baseline in part because of him being stuck on that personal issue that doesn't get resolved, which in turn stalls some relationships and in general makes a bit of a mess when it comes to pacing as author overcooked that particular pie something awful

>>20663990
No, RI is good, the other novel is garbage.

>>20663999
well, the fact that chinese goverment banned it already makes it special. Has there been any other recent fiction from China that ccp banned?

>>20663786
Unfortunately a lot of chinese novels are written one-chapter-a-day style which leaves them without consistent plot throughout and just ends up as MC going through small arcs and the story just ends up going on and on about how cool the MC is, getting everything and never losing. Unfortunately this is also the case later on in ISSTH, Renegade Immortal, Pursuit of the Truth and other Er Gen novels. His newer novels are basically just shit tier comedy with cultivation on top.
Against the Gods is even worse. If you're just starting out though, ISSTH and earlier works of the author are decent as well as Coiling Dragon, though these all have the problems I described earlier.
>>20664137
I think the reason it was banned has to do with all the "anti-government" philosophy it had going on

>>20664158
Curious what makes Lord of the Mysteries stand out so much, then. Is it written on a less absurd schedule?

>>20663849
I have Beware of Chicken on my list, it's the most popular on the site by far but I figured I would read a few regular stories before the parodies (alright that's not totally true but I'm saving it for when I'm a little more familiar with the genre). I'll keep the other ones in mind
>>20663889
I wonder how many people have actually read that sometimes. Everything is allegedly inspired by it, but I see nobody mention it outside of that context.
>>20663897
I'll give most things at least some shot regardless of genre, but I like comedies. I'm also interested in novels with evil-er main characters or stuff where they go full demon and are against humanity, but the overlap between that and pure edgelord stuff is probably massive. Obviously, a series doesn't need to have both of those (or either, if it's good enough)
>>20663908
Thank you, once I understood the difference between wuxia and xianxia I was surprised how few actual wuxia there are. Seems mostly relegated to older books and some movies
>>20663973
>2427 chapters and 40 bonus chapters
Does look interesting though, thanks
>>20664158
Too bad, good to know though. I'm new so I can probably handle tropey stuff for now. The thing that really bothers me about ISSTH is Meng Hao's demonic core fucking all his progress, it kills me that he burns a shit ton of rare pills to make even a little progress. He needed 4 Foundation Establishment pills from a man named "Grandmaster Pill Demon" to get a single Dao pillar. Since he stuck the demon core inside said pillar hopefully that can end soon, but it's grating to keep reading.

>>20664293
>I'll give most things at least some shot regardless of genre, but I like comedies. I'm also interested in novels with evil-er main characters or stuff where they go full demon and are against humanity, but the overlap between that and pure edgelord stuff is probably massive. Obviously, a series doesn't need to have both of those (or either, if it's good enough)

Keyboard immortal's a good, or at least decent, choice for you, tho do be vary that it's one of those chapter a day affairs, it keeps itself lean most of the time but not always, as it's still ongoing.

Legend of the Great Sage is very much walking the edge of "good" and "evil" as the title itself in universe is a moniker for powerful "demons".

If you wanna try something kind of stupid but that fits both your requirements consider My Wife Is A General Who Killed Tens Of Thousands On The Battlefield. It's a real treat with somewhat of an asshole MC, he's not evil, just asshole most of the time. The downside and the reason it's stupid is because it's a finished work and the last third of it is a marked downgrade compared to most of the novel.

Another possible consideration is this young master is not cannon fodder. Can't stand it personally but it's popular enough and might fit your taste.

Spirit vessel too has a fairly dark MC, might give it a shot if you do not find the rest appealing.

I can't decide what to read between Pandora's Star or Salvation

>>20663118
I read the first 3 and enjoyed them. Kinda forgot about them until now but I do remember starting the 4th one and not really caring too much about it

What sff books carry heavy gnostic themes? For one, I know of Iron Dragon's Daughter.

I just finished reading Midnight Tides and it was pretty disappointing, characters were nice but not much was happening. The battles were bad too

>somewhere along the line the protag forgot his original intent

So kino

Every scifi book I've tried that was published in the last 3 years has lgbt shit in it. Anyone have any recs for scifi that doesn't have xir and faggots in it?

>>20664605
Read stuff from the 80s

>>20664611
just not Lois McMaster Bujold kek

>>20664605
Depends on the kind of sci-fi you want to read.

Read Zombie Knight Saga.

>>20662626
It's the same people who have 50,000 hours in MMOs. Or watch 1000 episodes of One Piece. It's not worth it.

>>20663786
Don't read chinese cultivation the westerners unironically did it better

check out r/martialmemes to get a sense of how deplorable the chinese are.

>>20664762
Junior, you are courting death...

>>20664802
I am death...

>>20664762
>>20664802
I see my juniors have been following the Dao of reddit in my absence

>>20664441
You might be really disappointed with Reaper's Gale and Dusk of Dreams then. They seem to have a similar flavor. It's possible that the series might burn you out. You might not be in the right headspace to enjoy it right now. Or maybe it's just not your thing? Nothing wrong with that.

>>20664605
War of the worlds

>>20664668
Space travel and megastructures

Women have it so hard bros. Bakker is right.
>He looked through her, past her bewildered hurt, down to the beatings and the abuse, to the betrayals, and beyond, out to a world of rank lust, shaped by the hammers of custom, girded with scripture, scaled by ancient legacies of sentiment and belief. Her womb had cursed her, even as it made her what she was. Immortality and bliss—this was the living promise all women bore between their thighs. Strong sons and gasping climax. If what men called truth were ever the hostage of their desires, how could they fail to make slaves of their women? To hide them like hoarded gold. To feast on them like melons. To discard them like rinds.

>>20664029
some of Clark Ashton Smith's stories are like that but they're surrounded by dozens of Poe-style Gothic horror stories

>>20664058
Cosmic horror stuff

>>20663889
It's odd, the only things I've seen in the west that reference JttW are fucking slot machines.

How do you niggers cope with overly long door stopper type books? How do you ever bring yourself to finish them?

>>20665402
just like read it

Bakker is king.

>decided to finally catalog all the books I've read on one of those sites
>starting to stall out at 770
wtf bros, i thought i'd read at least a thousand fantasy books by now

>>20665402
I cope by not reading them.

>>20665049
Count to the Eschaton Sequence

>>20665461
What are your favorite ones?

>>20665461
Quantity isn't everything. Daniel Greene has read a lot more than I have.

>>20665402
if im not enjoying it i stop
if i am i will finish

often in these cases where im not enjoying it but im reading because it was a recommendation, ill try it again at a later time and start over. Rereading earlier parts of a book lets feel less guilty about skipping over the more boring parts while still becoming invested again, enough to want to finish it


its never happened that i didnt finish a book i tried to reread

>>20665555
Till We Have Faces is probably my all time favorite

>>20665572
I mean, part of it is that I look at the distribution and think there's no way some years should be this heavily skewed. I've only put the year I can remember reading them in for like half, but still.

>>20661780
>Fifth Head of Cerberus
Great stuff anon. Some of the best sci-fi I’ve ever read.
>>20662391
I don’t, but pic related is a pretty good argument for it.
>>20663230
Regarding the sci-fi, some dude on /v/ got me to read Asimov’s short story, The Last Question. I don’t know if it’s exactly what you’re looking for but it’s available online and is a quick read if you’re interested.
>>20663366
I read the Azure Bond series and it was decent for some escapist fantasy. Middle book was probably the strongest. I’ve been considering checking out Black Sun or Dragonlance next.

Water sleeps, bakkerfags beware

opinions about The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? is it a kids book?

tell me some good science fiction books, I want to try a different genre than I usually read

>>20665446
Truth Shines, brother.

>>20665736
hitchhiker's is a space comedy, not high art but still pretty good
my fave sci-fi books are ringworld, foundation, forever war, lord of light and asimov's robot stories

name me 1 (three) good isekai books
want to read about op protag in fantasy world

>>20665101
Why even bother writing about them

What are some fantasy series that get worse as they go? I'll start: Lyonesse

>>20665948
>What are some fantasy series that get worse as they go?
Lies of Locke Lamora's is a prime example.

>>20665948
I'm worried ISSTH will be this. I thought the Violet Fate Arc was good, then it turned to shit, then it got really hype and now after Meng Hao reaches Dao seeking it feels like it's going to get shit again

>>20664419
Pandora's star is kino of the highest order, Salvation sequence is barely readable pozzed junk.

>>20665969
violet fate arc was one of my favs, dao seeking i think is book 7 right? book 7 was really good, it had some alchemy arc again

desu ISSTH feels the same to me almost every book in a way that er gen is doing the same, he doesnt change the formula, I liked it, only the end that seemed very strange to me

>>20666012
I'm at the end of book 5 I think. Meng Hao almost singlehandedly defeats an invasion then his mom and dad show up and throw him into another tournament arc.

>He self-identifies exclusively with either “high” literature or genre fiction
You don’t really do this, do you anon?

>>20666019
For me this is the end of the 6th book, the parents show up and tell him the truth etc.

at the beginning of book 7 he sees the chosen ones from other planets or something, then there's the tournament etc and so on

>>20665948
Dread empire, first 3 are amazing, as are the following two prequels, but the last 2 of the final trilogy especially fall off a lot
I guess mainly the fault is the last one being rushed so hard that much is left resolved or concluded in an unsatisfying way.

>>20663786
I've read my fair share of chinkshit so I'll chime in some of my favorites:

Records of a Mortal's Journey to Immortality: Xianxia played straight. Solid work overall and one that I'd definitely recommend to anyone interested in "normal" cultivation novels. True Neutral MC.

Reverend Insanity: Edge overload. Neat system and world. If you can't stand evil MCs then don't bother. Does a good job of presenting the MC's internal logic and why he does the things that he does. Was so edgy that the CCP banned the author from releasing more chapters due to it promoting "antisocial ideas".

Lord of Mystery: Not even Xianxia really, but it gets a mention because it's a webnovel by a Chinese author and because I like it. Vaguely steampunk setting inspired by Victorian England and H.P. Lovecraft's stuff. Powers are (generally) discrete and well defined, which I think makes for more interesting fights than the usual "my power level is bigger than your power level" stuff that pervades a lot of xianxia. Neutral Good MC.

>>20666053
>. Was so edgy that the CCP banned the author from releasing more chapters due to it promoting "antisocial ideas".

wtf?

>>20663786
Age of Adepts and Warlock of the Magus World for a more magical feeling to xianxia, rather than cultivation.

>>20666107
>wtf?
If there's one good aspect (there aren't many desu) of RI, it's how protagonist spews non-comformist, anti-social statements 24 hours a day. How people are sheep, that they need someone stronger to guide them, that even perceived good people abuse their social position against the young to supress them, etc.
Edgelord Kino.

How would you defeat a for in combat if that foe could see into the future by a few seconds (effectively giving them godlike reflexes?)

>>20661334
Does someone know where I can get "powder mage" the first book (for free)?

>>20666233
Libgen is your friend

Here's the top 10 chinese webnovels I've read in no particular order in case someone is looking to get into reading them and doesn't want to go through the popular shit ones
Joy of Life
Way of Choices
Path Toward Heaven
Nightfall
Plague Doctor
Demon's Virtue
Sword Dynasty
Kingdom's Bloodline
Super Dimensional Wizard
Tales of Herding Gods

>>20666320
why do you enjoy shit

>>20665893
Legend of the arch magus
it's a fun read if you're interested in that sort of power fantasy shlock

>>20666320
I don't enjoy shit. I have a problem of shifting through shit trying to find something good

pic related is the only consistently enjoyable webnovel that's over 800 000 words, they all eventually turn to shit

>>20666298
Can't find it on there, am I retarded?

>>20666359
you're probably not searching under 'fiction'. it defaults to non-fic

>>20666364
Got it anon, thank you.

>>20664802
If you kowto 10,000 times cut off both your arms break your cultivation kill your father then I will leave your dead body intact

>>20666359
It showed me some results. Are you on Libgen.li?

>>20665101
What a load of pretentious drivel but kudos on the based misogyny

Reverend Insanity so bad, so bad CCP banned the author

I started Mark of the Fool two weeks ago and just got caught up. The timing couldn't have worked out better, this is a kino chapter to stop on.

>>20666548
>misogyny
It's the opposite. You didn't understand it.

>>20666576
RI distinguished itself from the other trashy Chinese web novels was because it was so contrarian especially the independent streak of fighting the system. I would reckon that with the CCP breathing down the author's neck, he's going to have to write the same bland Chinese trash just so that he's not permanently blacklisted. RIP RI.

>>20667004
Agree or disagree with the act of censorship, RI is anti-social and proud of this fact, people championing it often deny that but the who kill everyone take their shit shtick, complete with ass backward justifications of why it's only right and proper, is very much what some people seem to find appealing about it.

"Fighting the system", on the other hand, is pretty much default state of most cultivation novels with protagonist being a plucky talented/gifted/lucky peasant fighting against those born to power and systems of authority that enable their positions. If CCP really had that much of a hate boner against that the genre wouldn't exist, or at least would be much diminished.

>>20665948
malazan

new thread WHEN?

>>20667266
When this thread reaches page ten, retard.

>>20667207
Yeah but those are about the villains being evil because they're retarded assholes, and a truly virtuous and enlightened MC can reform everything and rule correctly.
RI is full on "society is a scam, morality is a spook, free will is a myth".
Honestly though I'd say the section of the book where he instigates a rebellion among underperforming slaves by covertly pushing communist rhetoric, forms a puppet leadership red guard, and has them worked to death in labor camps for his own profit while they all believe they're contributing to a "patriotic war to liberate the people" solely to increase their industrial output might have been the issue, but that only happens 1/3 of the way through!

>>20667342
>RI is full on "society is a scam, morality is a spook, free will is a myth".
Not sure about that last one being applicable to either RI or the argument but the rest is only reinforces my point, which is RI is very much anti-social.

>>20667358
I'm not disagreeing. And as for the relevance, it's part of the "everyone is controlled by those more powerful than themselves, therefore freedom can only be obtained through sufficient power to overthrow your masters"
So extremely anti-government, anti-society, etc...
Though actually there's a lot more characters that AREN'T Fang Yuan who counterbalance the anti-social aspects and show that he's not really "correct" so much as "an inevitable consequence", but no one really provides a valid counterargument to the anti-government message so I'd say that's more central.

Anyone here finished Everyone Loves Large Chests?
I dropped it a good while ago after the catgirl arc, got burnt out and the story was getting a bit fishy and bloated, and was thinking on picking it up again but not sure if it's worth it

Drop it all.

Burn it all.

>>20665948
The Stormlight Archive.
>>20667245
Hell no. Malazan only gets better. Filtered.

Just finished the black company series. Gonna miss those niggas. should I read the blade itself or the shadow of the torturer next?

>>20667245
Famously only gets better.

>>20667207
>"Fighting the system", on the other hand, is pretty much default state of most cultivation novels with protagonist being a plucky talented/gifted/lucky peasant fighting against those born to power and systems of authority that enable their positions. If CCP really had that much of a hate boner against that the genre wouldn't exist, or at least would be much diminished
That's incorrect. Ccp basically prohibits critising the goverment and pretty much every xanxia follows this guideline, in most if all not chinese stories the top goverment official/emperor/king is always righteous. There may be corrupt lower ranked officials but the most powerful ones always work for the people. RI insanity is obviously did not follow this rule and thats one of reasons for the ban.

>>20667866
Anon, this thread alone has a dozen bad emperor novel being recommended. Whatever your agenda, it's clear that you've got no clue what you are talking about.

>>20667910
You are clearly unfamiliar with chinese xanxia. Not that you should familiarize with it but portraying goverment as whole as bad is simply not allowed by ccp.

>>20668099
IIRC Against The Gods was, for a time, one of if not THE most popular novel in Chinese web fiction. The starter government has an incompetent ruler surrounded by corrupt ministers, at the mercy of the local corrupt sects, throwing his hope one a long shot of finding a half decnt talent. Oh and the government in question is a vassal of even more corrupt alliance of "holy lands". This is one of the two most sympathetic governments in the series. The rest? The rest are a long form argument for burning down every single one of them and crowning himself emperor. All the while people who have powers over entire bloody galaxy use MC and his fiance as a chew toy to advance their agenda.


I've got no clue what you've been reading, but Xianxia aint it.

why has this anti-china shill been shitting up so many threads lately?

>>20668174
Who?

Just finished Do androids dream of electric sheep? and I'm big fan of blade runner, but I think the film would been even better if Ridley Scott follow the book instead of creating a brand new screenplay.

I saw this recommended in one of OP reading charts and the synopsis caught my attention. How good is this? I'm thinking about reading it.

>>20668573
Then read it.

>>20668573
This was required reading in Sixth Form English, next to Frankenstein, on I think a science fiction module. The Handmaid's Tale was in there too. I don't remember a damn thing about it except that the science fiction parts were pretty understated, which I like, but other than that I remember it being a bit sappy and contrived. It felt like reading the kind of TV show girls get obsessed with.

>>20668573
I haven't read that, but I just finished pic related and found it quite enjoyable.
It seems like Ishiguro has a developed style considering the sci-fi in Klara is treated in a very casual manner, much like >>20668617 mentioned. It doesn't take up the focus, and I enjoyed it for that.

boring

>>20664326
>Keyboard immortal
I have resistance towards modern technology stuff in past worlds, but it sounds like an unique concept so I'll check it out anyway. I really hope it doesn't actually censor the word trash, though
>Legend of the Great Sage
That sounds good too, but I can't tell from the description whether the main character himself is a demon. I'll assume yes based on what you said about walking the line
>If you wanna try something kind of stupid but that fits both your requirements
I definitely do, too bad about the downgrade though

The other two seem like coin tosses, but there's no real reason not to give something a few chapters to see if you like it.
>>20666012
Do tell, does he ever stop needing a million pills to progress? I imagine that once he fully cuts himself off from heaven and earth pills become more important, but it's bothering me how much of everything he needs because of the demonic core. Does that ever get solved?
>>20666053
>Xianxia played straight
Sounds good, parodies are cool but they're better after you read some normal stuff
>RI
Torn because it sounds good but the cult audience makes me wonder. Is there any resolution or does it just not have an ending after the CCP stepped in?
>LoM
I could check it out sometime, I'm looking for xianxia but I don't have anything against regular stuff. Thanks for the recommendations

Members of the Princess Posse: ASSEMBLE

Today's a very quiet day. Optimist in me assumes that people in this thread finally started reading, instead of whining.

>>20669144
Jannies and mods have been deleting threads and banning people. It’s possible the people who were whining were just shitters shitting up /sffg/ and /lit/.

>>20663352
Thank you, these look promising.

>>20665619
>The Last Question
Top tier, Anon. I can't suck Asimovs dick enough

>>20669140
>I have resistance towards modern technology stuff in past worlds
It's not a real keyboard, more a spiritual one, and more to the point it's a cheat and a joke because it's just used to hand out items via gacha esque system. Beyond the very beginning, the items handed out are usually not straight power ups but rather meme memorabilia with unusual functions MC has to use wits to figure and make use of. Generally dislike that kind of stuff and novel occasionally suffers for it later on, but being a comedy and being quite well done most of the time it's not that big of a presence in the story. I don't think MC ever actually types anything on it, let alone use it for anything remotely modern.

>character himself is a demon
Yeh, he is, it's not even that much of a spoiler really, tho keep in mind that "demon" in this context is rather specific to the setting, the MC still has a lot of interactions with human society despite that descriptor.

Fantasy similar to Lyonesse? Already read The Broken Sword.

>>20669279
https://www.goodreads.com/book/similar/6575077-lyonesse-the-green-pearl-madouc

>>20669289
>Books similar to The Complete Lyonesse (Lyonesse #1-3)
Cheeky cunt.

>>20663072
mmh, theorically the Melniboneans from Elric of Melniboné series are a race of """elfin-like""" creature inter-mixed the the so called Phroons and that intermixing gave them control over dragons, to the nobility at least. From what i know in the books I've read they were dragon-like but i can be wrong. the next book should be about, in part, at least about this phroons i think

>>20669289
Terrible list.

>>20661889
And yet oddly it never has what I'm looking for

>>20669289
>how many levels of vatnik are you on, my dude

>>20669304
Those books get recommended here.

>>20662391
I don't. I just like an entertaining story.

>>20669316
It's all space science-fiction though

>>20662594
What did it mean by this?

>>20669330
It’s a spammer. He’s been spamming posts like that all over on /lit/. I saw him doing the same shit in a Ernst Jünger thread.

>>20663069
God?

>>20663238
Absolutely disgusting

>>20666023
>He identifies himself by the things he consumes

No, I don't do this.

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>>20669363
sneed

>>20665446
Why is it that I get banned for saying kill all bakkerfags but you can spew your shit unabated?

>>20669374
Have you tried reporting his low-effort posts? Instead of trying to start shot?

>>20669374
Mods recognise Truth.

>>20669381
What's the point if they don't just permaban the faggot?

>>20669386
The bakkerspammer has admitted multiple times that he does get ban. Just report his posts instead of replying to him or trying to start shit

>>20669386
Pretty sure he gets ban for his spam as well.

>>20662987
Sword of Shannara
Lord of the isles
Thomas covenant chronicles

>>20669313
That turned out pretty good for such a shit cover. Book two was released recently.

>>20669393
>>20669394
I said PERMABAN not banned for just a few days

>>20664058
Murchersons eye

>>20669411
Unless he starts posting child pornography or other things that breaks U.S law, he won’t get permaban. Again, just report him so he could get van and get 3 days of peace.

>>20668169
Literally every chinese webnovel I can think of that I've read of late has incompetent/evil government.
Like The Grandmaster Strategist and Rebirth of the Malicious Empress are straight up set in fantasy versions of China's past and the whole plot is about the mc scheming against a nefarious ruling class

>>20665736
Skinners isle
Good series

>>20666233
Irc
Join #ebookz on freenode (I think, in bed not on PC)
Literally everything

>>20665948
I can't remember the name because I deleted the book but there's this series where the first book (maybe 2) is pretty standard grimdarkish young girl comes back from a coup and retakes the throne and then has to fight an evil empire stuff but then it turns into a time travel novel by the end of the series.

>>20669140
>>RI
>Torn because it sounds good but the cult audience makes me wonder.
it has cult audience because its that good.

>Is there any resolution or does it just not have an ending after the CCP stepped in?
It was mostly finished. Even if there is no ending it hardly matters. We get follow one of the best mcs for 2k+ chapters, that in itself is more than enough to read it.

>>20669468
>I can't remember the name because I deleted the book but there's this series where the first book (maybe 2) is pretty standard grimdarkish young girl
Stopped reading.

>>20669498
>it has cult audience because its that good.
No, just you.

>>20669515
Go back to reading woke authors.

>>20666347
based

New thread
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New thread
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>>20669374
You are 50% of the replies to that post.

>>20669381
You just report people on the grounds that you don't like them?

>>20669498
>Mostly finished
Well, good enough if it's really that great of a series. Sucks ass that they couldn't let it go on for a little more, I'm imagining censors looking up RI every once in a while just to make sure he isn't continuing it

>>20662987
Sword of Shannara
Lord of the isles
Thomas covenant chronicles
For kids wild magic series
I read them as well