/lit/ - Literature

>>20610179
Gemmie

What political insights can be gained from watching The Thing? What does it say about the nature of man and how he organizes for the survival of its species?

How do i stop doubting everything and undermining myself constantly
Its ruining my life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_WFaQzY0GA
sounds like a night out in town................................................................................................................

I'm a good man in a storm.

>>20610192
please tell me if you ever find out

>>20610205
I will

>>20610192
I wish I'd know.
t. has the same problem

>>20610192
Start distinguishing between risk and uncertainty, risk is the flip-side of reward, it is the volume or degree of consequence while uncertainty is the probability of that particular risk. Risk is often known, for example, a lottery, the "reward" which is the inverse of risk is known, there is a set prize pool. The uncertainty is who will win (however we can quantify the uncertainty ).
Another example is imagine you have your choice of three contractors to renovate a bathroom, let's say the "risk" is 60,000 dollars. Why? Because they all quote you about 30 grand, which means that if you pick the wrong one you'll need to spend another 30 grand to fix it. So the risk is 60 grand. The uncertainty is 1/3, because you have three contractors to choose from.
How does this apply to anxiety and real life? Mitigate the risk instead of worrying about predicting the results. Testing out an electrical appliance and worried about it shorting out the whole house? Then move it onto a separate circuit with it's own fuse: now even if the worst happens it won't fry anything else in your house. It's damage limitation before there's any damage. Don't allow domino effects to happen in the first place.
We also know from Prospect Theory and Descriptive Decision Theory, and also empirical research on ques and call centers, that when people know in advance how much of a resource is at risk (time, money etc.) they are calmer. When they don't know, that's when they get fucky.
Distinguish between risk and uncertainty, that is the depth or effect of a outcome and the probability of that outcome, then set about reducing or containing the depth and effect of the outcome rather than trying to predict the possibility.

I haven't been to Mcdonalds in years, so I'm checking out what new they might have on the menu, and it looks like they took up on copying KFC with the chicken box, and there are also some vegetarian options. I think I'll just get coffee and some of those sugar bombs known as Mcsundae. Though, would it kill them to get a new option that isn't some chocolate/cookie combination? Seems McCafe gets all the fruity stuff, but all McCafe's are too far away.

>>20610255
i only ever eat big macs when i go to mcdonald's (about 3 times a year usually)

The only reason I haven't Killed myself yet is because I don't want to make mom sad.
The reason that I wanted to kill myself is laughable to some. It's easy to find an excuse to do anything. In this case it is perhaps to run. To run from nothing. Have you waited for a call or a package to arrive? And in the end it was nothing. Ofc you can wait for tomorrow but what if there is no tomorrow. The package will arrive eventually, but no one is sure.
I could set up a letters system that sends my mom letters, Every month. I could at least keep it up for 3 years. Just say to her that you don't use the internet anymore.
Will she believe me? Of course she will, I'm her son.
Maybe something's wrong with me, but I don't want to get fixed, or help. I've been living with it since I was born, I
I don't know if I can live without it. Even if it's the worst thing, it's me. It's myself.
What would she do when she found out that I'm dead? She probably cry, a lot. Don't worry, people always move on, even if it takes some time. Will she be sad forever because of me? Probably, she said I'm the reason she has the energy to do anything in life.
It's not that I'm tired or stressed or any emotions really. It's just nothing. Maybe some people just are not fit to be in this world. I have been told I'm cold.
It’s not because I just moved. I’ve been feeling this way for a long time. I can’t feel or enjoy anything anymore. Except loneliness, I guess.
Don’t worry, I won’t do it, at least not tonight. I can’t bear to make my mom cry. I’d probably do what I do as always. I’d push it inside hoping to forget it and never feel it again. I’ll say “I’d rather not think or talk about it.”
This is probably going to be the only time that I ever express myself.
Take care.

>>20610263
As far as burgers go, Big Mac is the most satisfying option. Just enough meat, just enough sauce, crunchy lettuce.

>>20610267
You don't have children, you cannot even possibly begin to imagine what it would be like for your mother to lose her son.

>>20610267
I have similar thoughts. As soon as my parents die, I'll just kill myself. No point in living.

i feel weird

>>20610385
might just be all that alcohol you ingested.

>>20610179
The truth isn't out there; the truth isn't inside.
The truth isn't dead; the truth isn't alive.
The truth is perpetually hanging at a standstill, a neon crossroad exploding with interweavings of webs across every space in every direction imaginable

Where have the greek and roman religions gone? Fuck these abrahamic judeocentric religions, I want to be an initiate into Orphism or the cult of Mithras

Fall comes and falls upon the fallen ones. They fell to Fel because falling was felt to be infallible as a method to feel fully free. Of course, as foolish as one can be, they fell too far and as they fell to Fel they felt the need to fell a tree. Falling fast as one can fall, I watched them fall, I watched them all. But falling fails to fell my trees, my trees are rooted hard and true, the only falling things that fall from trees of me, are falling leaves, obviously. They wish they knew before they fell, that trees of mine they could not fell, for falling fast does not amass, felling power up to the task. Certainly it's plain to see, falling trees fall cautiously. For fall to my roots, and stuck you'll be, so painfully, no way to be free, my roots and me, we're in cahoots, you shall see. Fall to Fel and fall too fast, my trees will fell the fallen ones who dare attack. Fall comes and falls upon my fallen trees, the fallen ones cry, they let tears fall, and before they dry, my fallen trees falter not in felling fools who fall to me.

>>20610455
This is some potent autism it really is magnificent

lts not that l'm a loser that really bothers me but that l know l could have been a winner.

My gf dreams about me all the time. l never dream about her.

>>20610461
Thinking that thinking is stupid is stupid. If hypothetically you thought thinking things was smart, you would come to think that you are smart for thinking things which according to what you think, is smart. It's worth thinking about how much smarter it is to think that thinking is smart, you might come to think that thinking how smart thinking is is quite smart, for thinking about how smart thinking about how smart thinking is, seems to be quite smart if you think about it, considering that thinking about how smart thinking thinking is smart is, would naturally lead you to think that thinking is smart, thus leading you to think that youre smart for thinking, exponentially so if your thinking about how smart thinking thinking is smart really is. I think.

>>20610468
Maybe you do, you just forget because it was such a peaceful dream.

>>20610469
Four pitch black walls. Are they vindictive or indifferent? I know they're neither, yet I can't help myself but to relay the question to you.

>>20610476
I am called the maker. I am called the giver, and I am called the taker.
What is darkness without light? It surely must be something, but instead, without light, darkness is nothing. Like space without matter, or sound without silence. How can a nose smell, when there is no scent? How can you see darkness, without having seen first light. How did you see light then, if you never saw darkness. The truth of the matter, is that you only see half the truth, when you attempt to split it. You never saw darkness, nor light, you saw two things which was one. It always was one, but only when you decided what was darkness after light, or light after darkness did you presume that it was two. It is one.
How is this helpful? Learn to see only the one, and soon enough you'll have forgotten about the two. The delusion of the two. It was always one, it always will be. Splitting can be a painful process. You split to discriminate, half is to be like others who are also splitting, and half is to disengage from the one, in a feeble attempt at putting oneself above the other part. But the parts are inseparable, they were never split. What was split, was your perception. A split perception is an inaccurate one. Do not fool yourself into seeing two, especially if seeing two can only bring a splitting headache. See instead the one. Remember the one. Recuperate the one. Accept the one. And then, nothing can have an effect, without an opposite and equal effect, effectively negating all effects. With no effects, there is nothing. And nothing is one. Nothing is peace.

>>20610474
wishful thinking. l dream of other girls all the time although it's mostly negative

>>20610179
>For the narcissistic, being authentic means facing the peril of your own freedom and doing your own thing in spite of social pressures; it means creating and finding yourself in what feels right. For the moralistic, it means living in a tradition in which values are objective and engaging in rational discussion about those values and the goals of society. For the scientistic, being authentic means having the courage to give up illusions fostered by religious and cultural myths, and living bravely with only the truths of biology. But what truly feels right is not always comfortable or easy, rational discussions must guard against becoming dogmatic and closed, and the truths of biology do not negate human truth.

what video game preferable rpg should i marathon over the three day weekend? i haven't played a jrpg in possibly decades which is to say ff8 so i'm kind of in the mood for one of those but open to anything including just released this week to retro shit from the 90s, has to be on steam tho i have $50 in my account

>>20610850
>For the narcissistic, being authentic means facing the peril of your own freedom and doing your own thing in spite of social pressures; it means creating and finding yourself in what feels right
literally me but without knowing my own thing.

>>20610887
Disco Elysium.

>>20610895
no i don't want some political bullshit if i wanted that i could watch tv, read a newspaper, turn on the radio, or browse the internet.

>>20610469
Is this recursion or just tautology?

>>20610902
Yakuza: Like a Dragon then.

>>20610887
Shin Megami Tensei is pretty fun.

>>20610192
You have to trust yourself.

>>20610468
she loves you, do you love her?

>>20610887
SMT IV and Radiant Historia were pretty fucking amazing games when I played them and they're not complex to emulate.

I'm pretty sure Suikoden II is on steam and so is BoF4.

>>20611039
>do you love her?
not in the same way. l dont burn for her like l have others. She's wonderful though and l care about her happiness.

I'm the king of inadvisable decisions. One life lesson I've learned is that if nothing stops you the overwhelming likelihood is that you will become something you hate if left to your own devices.

>>20610850
>you are narcissitic if you want your own freedom and do your own thing.
psychologists are nuts.

I picked up wurthering heights. If I've experienced love and romance, I compensate by reading about it.

>>20610192
You have to stop caring about anything.
I used to be a very anxious person and worry about everything.
Now I just tell myself, who gives a shit? Unless it is a life and death situation, nothing will really change in your life anyways.

>7 Pynchon threads at once
Fucking why

I travelled all the way across Europe to meet a girl I found online. We had a fun time, and it was nice not being alone for once, but it was nothing like the world-changing experience I thought it would be. Kissing is a bit awkward and not very pleasurable. My tongue kept scraping across the front of her teeth. Maybe it's just because I've never kissed anyone before so I'm bad at it, but it didn't seem like anything special. Her nipples felt nice but her boobs are quite small and so is her ass. I wonder if it would feel nicer with a bigger-breasted woman. We didn't have sex because I'm a Christian but I fear that sex will be similarly underwhelming.

>>20611282
I feel the same about the jackspammers and frog idiocy

Think I'm turning into Bruno from Atomised. I wanted to be like Michel but not smart enough so might just turn into a filthy coomer

Retarded tranny general fuck off back to /soc/

>>20611282
At least they are literature related. Could have chose a better writer though

I haven't drank in 8 weeks.
Haven't played vidya in 6 months

And I'm still not getting shit done. Don't have any motivation to work on my side biz (copywriting).

I just wanna go back and play some Warzone, but it sucks knowing it isn't going to add any value to my life. It's just mindless entertainment...

>>20611680
having some fun is good for you

>>20611685
problem is I have an addictive personality.

I start gaming, and next thing you know I'm no lifing 8hrs a day.

Same with alcohol, can't do moderation.

>>20611692
I wish that was me.

Was I supposed to grow out of anime and manga?

>>20610887
Fire Emblem 4

My head explodes like I wear some white-hot burning helmet, so I'll write a cool and breezy idyllia (how funny it is that the word is spelled differently from ideal?)

There will be a guy there, obviously. Everything is always better with a guy. Maybe he will even be a man, but I'm not sure. I will admire him and he will like me, and we will have long conversations (but never be too comfortable together, because comfort leads to stagnation).
There will also be friends there. A Bloomsbury-group-like circle, where we will also discuss science in addition to literature and plastic art.
As to the scenery - both city and countryside have their beauty. But I must have a private little corner, neat and tidy, a place to cook, a place to read, a place to sleep.
Working hard, earning a lot if money, being exhausted everyday. This is the only way to live.

I know it's lousy writing, but everything hurts so much so I must imagine.

>>20610179
We seriously need to stop the Jews.

>>20611737
That pig is in trouble

>>20610179
This place used to be special...now it's just gross.

>>20611680
it's a three day weekend i'm playing some vidya with no guilt, i'm thinking something nostalgic like eastward or something

>Monsieur Lapalisse: A reference to the legendary Jacques de la Palisse (1470–1525), a French nobleman and military officer active in Francis I’s Italian campaign, during which he was killed. His epitaph reads: Ci gît Monsieur de La Palice: S’il n’était pas mort, il ferait encore envie ("Here lies Monsieur de la Palisse: Were he not dead, he would still be envied"). This was originally misread—by mistake, presumably—as saying ". . . S’il n’était pas mort, il serait encore en vie" ("Were he not dead, he would still be alive"), due perhaps to the potential confusion between f and s in serif script. The misreading gave rise to a whole tradition of burlesque song variants, with similar tautological plays on words, such as Il n’eût pas eu son pareil / S’il avait été seul au monde ("He would have had no equals / Had he been alone in the world"). The many variants were brought together into La chanson de La Palisse by Bernard de la Monnoye in the early eighteenth century, though other versions exist as well.

kek
We may laugh about Paradife Loft, but this is just amazing.

>>20611385
I did the same and my gf has big tits. Its nice squeezing them and they make me hard but in the end u get used to it.

>>20611385
You see the experience as that of a John using a prostitute. You don’t like her, you might not even see her as human (going by so many anons I’ve seen here. Nothing personal). You are missing from the experience.if you can’t love don’t just ape the motions of a relationship.

I miss butters :(
i know youre still around

I want to quit my job so I can move but I’m worried I will regret it.

>>20612114
choose the less regretful option

ascult parazitii sa-mi sugeti pula angloizilor

>>20612114
Choose adventure. I doubt the job is that important or secure.

I’m doing the same soon.

>>20612114
I could possibly measure

>>20612148
It’s not important but it would be hard to find a job that lets me work as little for as much pay as this one.

I remember the saying that "the biggest cynic is former idealist"
how true is that?

Im travelling alone and am staying in a hostel. Should I just ask a guy if he wants to go get a beer? What's the best way to "meet people" while travelling?

>>20610468
Same, it makes me feel guilty. I only seem to dream about people I went to school with.

>>20612223
>people think one way then another
Is what it boils down to.

>>20610192
You need to establish what you're satisfied with.

Every day is a blessing.

>>20612333
Mmmm. Maybe every second or third, if I'm being fair.

>>20612073
Fuck Butters

>>20610240
30 grand to renovate a bathroom?

>>20612449
maybe it's one of those fancy bathrooms with a quartz hot tub, or something.

>2.5 hours left before work
>no idea how to spend that time
ah... I hate this

>>20612462
do a puzzle online.

she said shes going to ride my face until i cant breathe

Since /lit/ is dead, let us have a eulogy. Step forth and speak of our dear departed board

>>20612533
NO QUIERE QUE NADIE LLORE SI YO ME MUERO MAÑANA
SEÑORES NO TRAIGAN FLORES PARA MI NO QUIERO NADA

>>20612533
NO QUIERO QUE NADIE LLORE SI YO ME MUERO MAÑANA
SEÑORES NO TRAIGAN FLORES PARA MI NO QUIERO NADA

>>20612481
The xi jinping of eating pussy

>>20612533
私が死んでも
泣いたりしないで
何も言わずに
私を忘れて
悲しいことなんて
何にもないじゃない
明日も世界は
変わらないのだし
みんないつかはさよならするのだし
みんないつか死ぬの

>>20612481
Does she look a little heavy for you?

>>20611191
Wish i could
Im terribly afraid of the wrong choice. Or that im not genuine to myself.
Lets say someone asks me to pic a favorite shirt among 5 different shirts. My mind goes into some kind of psychotic panic even if it doesnt matter. I dont even know what is MY preference. Its like my will or intuition got erased or overwritten by something.

>>20612737
leave it to chance then
flip a coin, roll a die or something
that's what I do whenever I find myself plagued with crippling indecision

I need to get the fuck away from Kazakhstan

>>20612877
ur opinion on women?

Tired but my dreams are killing me

why the fuck are there so many pynchon threads right now

I have a lot of idiosyncratic beliefs and every time I say something idiosyncratic people automatically assume that a) I am retarded and b) I think that I am actually a genius. My brain just has different associations

>>20612964
Drop some of those beliefs, bro

>>20612912
I fucking hate them to death

>>20613020
>be a women
>minding my own business
>see 7000 posts about how woman are pure, brainless scum every night

It gets to me sometimes, I must admit.

>>20613038
detransition then if it bother u so much

>>20613038
YWNBAW

I something wonder if /lit/ is full of children, considering they are incapable of finding books.

I think they might have just put filters on lit finally

>>20611385
You don't love her you were just lonely.

>>20613038
Moids burn in their own little hells. I almost pity them.

>>20613047
YWNHAW

>>20613295
How can you tell?

>>20613330
I made a post and it said my post was filed as spam or something

>>20613341
That's been implemented before, the trolls and low-effort posters will just find a way around it.

>>20613346
Weird. How do they decide what is spam. I made a sarcastic post with an author who’s last name begins with E and mentioned the site that starts with an R. The spam filter is obviously trash looking at this board

The feeling of being a walking husk of a person, continuing to toil against causality while forgetting what even made you happy is something that I feel everyday. The cognitive problems my depression caused me are definitely the worst part of it. Forgetting words, forgetting names, not being able to focus and because of that failing at school and college. My self-hatred grew so big that I was thinking about killing myself but I somehow stuck it out. I've been feeling a lot better the last two and a half years, but it took a long time for me to recover from my worst symptoms. I find a bit of peace while doing work at a plant nursery for - let's say "special people" - and the fact that I can listen to music while doing so makes it a lot better.

chuds on 4chan be like "islam will save us from globohomo" i think they got too cocky

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpYJr0zSmv0

>>20613362
I remember when you couldn’t say reddit because the system thought it was spam.

I forgot to eat because I was playing Bomb Party. #ad

>tfw starting new job
>tfw getting new apartment
>tfw starting steroids
>tfw cheating on three diff women
any books for this feel?

I like the way wine looks as you pour it into a bowl.
a crippled waterfall

>>20613871

You're trying too hard.

>>20613893
but its all true.
one girl is from Cali. one girl is from Ohio. one girl is from Illinois the job is construction the apartment is a basement shithole the steroids are test and hgh

kinda wish i was flexible enough to suck my own dick.

tfw want people to hang out with because feeling sad but such a two-faced person that you have no one that would possibly accept you for being so fucking depressed and lame. I just want to go to my local ramen place and drink a pitcher of beer with a friend. I dont want to be alone, but there is no one I can be with.

>>20613871
>>20613893
>>20613909
https://youtu.be/TzaYo2C-GKs

>>20613848
...which is weird, since moot thinks reddit is better than 4chan.

>>20613943
bjork is very good

>>20613933
suicide is a good option.
or go have ramen and beer.
describe your suicide or your ramen and beer adventure.

have you ever had chicken and beer? koreans do that and I did that when I was in korea. it was very comfy. I saw a national geographic camera team while I was there.

>>20610179
>What’s On Your Mind

Forgive me because I am drunk on wine. We park a trailer of forms. Forms are these eight foot tall by two feet wide plywood with iron ribs every foot. The forms are stacked 13 high on the trailer. They weigh 100lbs plus whatever concrete still remains on the face. We hold them on our head, deltoid, biceps and grip with our hands. We carry them about thirty feet into a fifteen foot hole in the ground and set them down around the footings. Footings are concrete foundations of a basement. Think a two foot wide, one foot tall continuous concrete block. The footings have "verts" which are pieces of rebar that stick two feet high. We usually carry 150 forms into a hole. Then spray them with diesel. The diesel smells foul and will stain your clothes. Then we stand them atop the footings and pin them together with metal pins. We have to make sure they are on a very narrow line so the house is "square". We brace them with wooden two by fours. It's very fun work but it leaves your bicep and deltoid scarred. We add more rebar to make a continuous mat, attaching to the verts. Once the rebar mat is done, we close the wall up by standing forms on the opposite side that we have already stood. A mixer truck comes and pours "muds" inside. We walk atop the walls and float the mud; make it flat and nice. Then we stick hooks. I cannot think of the correct word for the hooks because I have been drinking. Men on the ground straighten the walls with two by fours before the hooks go in. Bolts. Not hooks, but bolts. And that is how you build a basement. I miss utah something fierce

>>20614005
>What’s On Your Mind
Chicken and beer

>>20614034
no. you must drink CASS beer

Scan this QR code.

>tfw only have a 6.5 inch and 5inch girth cock

>>20614075
what is girth

>>20614086
No. 2 pencil

>>20614063
qr codes remind me of Snowblind by Neil Gaimon. Not falling for that trick

When I was twelve I went to a winter/Christmas concert with my family to a high school on the north side of Chicago. My sister was in the brass section and my family wanted to go support her. She was failing her classes so we had to go pick her up from night school first. The concert was meh. They did this odd Thriller by MJ thing that made me blush but I don't know why.
But afterwards. Afterwards there was this tall blond polack. She had reddish blond hair and she was a year older than my sister so she was 17. Pale skin and a nice rack. She was so beautiful. I wanted her so badly. She had a scarf on and a dark black dress on with those leg things; stockings/tights/leggings/pantyhose? She was laughing, her head thrown back and I wanted her so fucking much. Instead I listened to my Sony MP3 player and listened to Jambi by Tool, Green Eyes by Coldplay and Narc by Interpol all the way home. Goddamn I wanted her.

>>20613329
>YWNHAW
Based.

Wow. What was the qr code about that it got deleted?

Scripture threads should not be on this board or /his/ either for that matter. Discussions on scripture are absolutely tainted by sectarian interpretation and they should be relegated to offline discussions or discussions on forums specializing in them at best.

>>20614174
You can check. I don't know why mods deleted it.

>>20614174
So the jannies ARE paying attention?

Is it cope or resignation to look to religion as a remedy for my directionless and depressive life? It feels like I'm giving up on myself, like I could do more work and make myself take part in the world, instead I'm just looking to religion for something to take the burden off my shoulders.

>>20614187
Pogdanoff

gf used to have leg shaking orgasms every time we had sex and I had to really jam it in, now she's noticably easier to get inside and I have to slap the clit like a banjo to make her feel anything

I'm 26 years old and I still have an acne problem. Having anything with a little sugar causes me to break out all over my face. I also have these pimples on the back of my neck that seem to be permanent and hurt like shit when I accidentally touch them. I hate acne so much it's insane.

>>20614204
People have been coping with religion for thousands of years, anon.

>>20614280
Yeah, but I haven't heard anyone talk about it as if religion is a last resort, a personal failure or sign of resignation.

>>20613329
>YWNHAW
b-bros... Not like this...

>>20614289
Oh? Never heard of "jailhouse conversions", then?

>>20614374
I've heard of people converting to Islam in prison but that seemed more like a gang thing.

>>20614302
yeah. kill yourself now

>>20614248
She's cheating on you with someone who has a bigger dong.

>>20614403
my dick is already huge

>>20614432
His is even bigger

>distinctly remember something happened in 2017, including exact wording
>check my email record
>says it happened in 2020 and the wording is completely different

I think the timeline switching theorists on /pol/ are right.

>>20614499
CERN is creating billions of alternate realities

>>20614499
reminder that theres timeline were you are a transexual on HRT

I love everyone

>>20614522
wait, I take it back

>>20612737
I know what you are living through, because I used to be exactly the same.
>Lets say someone asks me to pic a favorite shirt among 5 different shirts. My mind goes into some kind of psychotic panic even if it doesnt matter. I dont even know what is MY preference. Its like my will or intuition got erased or overwritten by something.
This is when you have to learn to just not give a fuck. It does not matter what shirt you choose, just either say that it doesn't matter, that you don't care or choose one randomly.
You make it more complicated than it is. Once you realize that you don't control most things in your life, you will stop caring.

/sffg/ is going down the shitter. Now I have no reason to visit /lit/.

sweaty mma sparring with greased up pawgs

>>20614637
you won't be missed
verification not required

>would of

Big dicks will rule the world

>>20614867
You think you’re strong and powerful because you overpowered a tiny girl? Uh? So pathetic as expected from the Japanese. Indonesia Military overpower Japan by manpower fit for military service, paramilitary, reserve military manpower, labor force strength, strategic-, tactical-, and utility-level transport fleet strength, offshore patrol vessel fleet strength, Corvette fleet, Frigate fleet, proven oil reserves, oil production, merchant marine fleet, total serviceable airports, overall navy fleet strength, total square land area. Indonesia too strong. Japan week.

>There’s a creepy pedophile that post a shit ton of images and webm of little girls on /lit/
I know this is 4chan and all, but fuck, I genuinely worry about those children.

>>20614884
where? God I need to see his posts and report that cunt

>>20614256
Dermatologist. Now.

>>20612114
https://youtu.be/75d_29QWELk

>>20614885
Not him, but the most recent I saw him was in /sffg/. He's posted on that general occasionally, but his shit usually gets deleted. Don't know if he ever gets ban though. Except one time.
>>/lit/thread/20605175#p20609879

>>20610192
find inner strength through faith in Christ

>>20612283
Im not satisfied with anything.

did you guys get vaccinated?

>>20614932
No

>>20614932
lmao no

WW is a great poet.

>>20614958
>>20614976
sucks to be you

>>20614999
Why say that? The vaccine is literally for the first wave covid19, which is all gone now. Completely ineffective against the more contagious and weaker strains we have now. People getting pressured into booster needles are the sad ones. It’s a money grab. Always has been.

>From the moment I wake up, every action I perform is done in defiance of the minimal ethical principle I spoke of: in order to survive, I have to consume food and water, but not everyone in the world has enough food and water, so I must already disrespect the hungry and thirsty by not surrendering my breakfast. Having resolved to have breakfast, I create additional demand for the plants and animals that died so I could have this meal, but they didn't wish to die. The technology I use converts energy into heat, and makes the planet less hospitable for everyone. Even when I do good deeds such as helping a woman in danger, I cannot help but step on the toes of others, either those I didn't help because I directed my efforts in another direction, or those who will later be harmed by whoever benefits from my charity. By the light of these and other conflicts, we can see how the ongoing existence of beings who are compelled to maintain their livelihood presents an obstacle to ethics.
>Someone who is under torture or suffering from wasting disease, in agony, has no ethical obligations. For all our philosophizing about living a moral life and being charitable to others, we concede that an exception is always permissible if we will be hurt too badly. Even though what we hold up as the paragon of a moral act involves sacrificing self-interest, there is no sense in which someone enduring unbearable pain is expected to put the interests of others before stopping the pain. This kind of pain might never happen to us (or it might be waiting for us all as we near decrepitude), but as an avenue of moral escape it remains a permanent possibility. I can never say with full confidence that I will always shelter you from evil, because I know that there is a threshold of physical discomfort beyond which I will intentionally flee from that promise.

>>20614999
I'm sick with batflu right now. Never took the vaccine never will. Simple as.

Trying to be in a relationship with a woman that makes a lot more money than me is a dead end isn't it

>>20615053
That depends on how traditional are you.

she was my jungle massif gyall…..and i was the amen break to her heart
https://youtu.be/KfS0_ReQq74

>>20611191
Why do anything, then?

>>20610902
You can ignore most "political" stuff in Disco Elysium though. I did because it doesn't interest me at all. There's like one NPC at some point that just babbles about political stuff like a maniac, but you don't even have to talk to him at all if you don't want to.

>>20615053
That depends how ugly she is. If she's cute drop her immediately.

>>20615080
middling chink, puts a lot of effort into her appearance to be half as attractive as a lot of girls

I'm too left-brained. Would using my left hand, like when brushing my teeth, strengthen my right brain?

>>20615089
left brain, right brain theory is a meme

>>20615023
>It’s a money grab. Always has been.
how is it a money grab when it's literally free to get vaccinated

I feel like I've been constantly on the verge of becoming extremely powerful for a while now

ive been increasingly reclusive, and yesterday for the first time in a year I went to my friends place, whom i used to hang out with every weekend, for drinks and a fire, and man...Ive been thinking a lot about how ive changed so much over my adult years, my interests and values have changed, my perspective has evolved so much since i was a young teen partying hard at every opportunity, and now find it difficult to relate to my peers, and my experience just sealed the deal regarding that idea. for starters my one friend came out as gay a few years back and since then goes on about discussing hyper-degenerate shit, sleeping around with tionnes and tonnes of dudes, sucking dick and getting fucked etc, and "how he got the clap (chlamydia) in his asshole again" and all sorts of stuff that was just disgusting that they seemed to act like it was perfectly normal casual stuff. my main friend I believe is desperately falling for a girl he met who is some polyamorous whore and i can see it was eating at him that she was the way she was, especially when he started to get more drunk, but before that it sounded like he was convincing himself out loud that he wouldn't mind getting cucked in a polyamorous relationship under certain conditions and blah blah blah, but i tell you he wasn't really happy about it. it was just all so sad and gross. all sorts of stories of some stripper who was living downstairs or something. lots of drug use of course, and what i suspect is drug dependency, which i used to participate in, and I still have some vices like tobacco and alcohol, but its on another level. I used to think of my reclusive state as just a short phase caused by issues i wont go into which i would overcome, but shit, its really striking me just how much i really dont fit in anymore. i fucking love my friends but at the same time its like...i can come and drink beers and laugh at all the degenerate shit as theyre talking about it, have a decent time on a surface level, but deep down its all so fucking repulsive and all i can do is just smile and play along. I dont think i will ever be able to quite have the same relationships i used to have. everything is just so ugly and gross, i just want to fuck off to the country and never look back.

>>20615178
What are you talking about? It's part of the current mainstream neuroscience.

>>20615211
ok, and?

>>20615217
There's case studies of right hemisphere stroke victims that effect their left side, like ignoring all objects on their left, and functions that's part of that hemisphere, like not being able to differentiate different animals.

>>20614932
No and won't ever. Have a summer cold currently

>>20614403
Bigger dong usually means he likes dudes as well.

>>20614280
Religion isn't a cope, gaytheist. Go jerk off Stephen Hawking or something

watched the man from toronto
nearly 2 hours of very uncomfortable "humor"

Someone talk me out of dating a qt from work. It's going to end poorly but I want to do it anyway

>>20615273
>Have a summer cold currently
should have vaccinated

>>20615328
If it’s a yea or nay with repeat dates, you should just move onto another job. No big deal.

>>20615355
>you should just move onto another job. No big deal.
not worth it

Just move to another world?

There’s like 4 or five threads that aren’t SFW yet are still up

I like your rough draft. I really do. The setting, characters, and plot are interesting. I'm happy to see your rough draft. But you're taking the plot along a road where the narrative stakes are about to get much heavier and the tone is about to get much darker. In fact the entire tone of your setting and where you've told me that you're taking the plot are pretty dark. Your audience is going to hate it because you have spent the entire first act telling your audience that the stakes are low and that the tone is mellow. When you suddenly swerve into much higher stakes without setting it up first in act one they're going to lose their shit. Your audience is going to lose their marbles. For fuck's sake you introduced a duo of date rapists midway through the first act who roofied the drink of the protagonist's mother, only to reveal with no prior hints that the character was in complete control of the situation the entire time, only to undermine that in the next scene which makes it come across as even more of a deus ex machina.

You seem to know this. I think you can sense it. You know that you've built this set of narrative expectations where there are guard rails. You've stated that in act 2 they come off. But the audience is going to feel entirely betrayed by the sudden fucking shift in tone and stakes. You've made the promise of a moderately lighthearted story with only somewhat serious interpersonal stakes in the form of relationships when you're entirely ready to start dishing out serious consequences to major characters as soon as the beginning of act 2 after leading your audience to think that this won't happen in act 1. It's not that you can't play with tone or introduce some whiplash here and there. It's that you want to tell this serious story with a plot that has fairly heavy stakes in a fairly dark setting but other than establish that the setting is dark you completely undermined your audience's expectation. Your go to plot device to move from one arc to another is dangling sexual peril in the face of main characters and side characters. Rapists, slavers, the whole bit. And then you shot them in the foot by establishing that the danger was never real.

And the fucked up thing is that I just told you this. Not in all of these words. For fuck's sake take a note. Your characters have come out unscathed and unchallenged. Your act 2 is "what if act 1 but no deus ex machina". That would be fine. If you had set it up. But you didn't. You feel it because every single chapter you recoil from taking a step further on the ledge, but the ledge is only so precarious because you failed to establish the potential stakes in any meaningful way earlier on. So the audience is going to be outrageously pissed at the sudden turn.

And if you stick to what you're doing right now guess what? You pussied out. You didn't tell the story that you wanted to tell. That's maybe even a worse thing than alienating your own audience.

azokb berenub btffew

The desire to see patterns of power and influence is typically a rather vane and pathetic attempt by the individual human ego to shield itself from the truth that individuals simply don't matter. The reality of human existence is that there are billions of us all living complicated and varied lives across the globe. The efforts of some supposed cabal celebrities, film makers, and others in the entertainment industry would be as significant in the grand scheme of human affairs as a fart in a hurricane. No one is really in control. The pilot of this ship of fools is just as stupid as the rest of us, and yes, this is exactly the point these films are trying to make

>>20614256
https://www.thedermspecs.com/blog/5-foods-that-cause-acne/
I'm afraid it's time to reconsider your diet. Eat in moderation, replace candy/cakes with fresh fruit, etc.
And see a dermatologist about the pimples on the back of your neck, the fact they hurt means they might be so-called cystic acne, which require antibiotics to treat and could leave scarring if you try to deal with them the wrong way.

i stayed up all night again. the thing is i get obsessed and i have to finish something after i start it and i can't do anything else

been posting on 4chins for 2 years and just realized that you can select to open threads in new tabs

According to my psychiatrist I have BPD with narcissistic traits

>>20610179
I'm done with getting blackout drunk and doing tons of coke now. I've done some stupid shit in that state before but I might actually go to prison this time.

recommend non-fiction for midwit learning c# and wants to write post-apocalyptic stories

>>20615754
>learning c#
Why?

I hate movement around me. My peripheral vision almost invariably catches it and it upsets me to no end. I literally can't focus if people are moving a lot around me or walking a lot near me.

>>20615859
because i need to earn money

>>20615890
but why not anything else? do you even like it?

>>20615942
please just answer the question

>>20615948
what question?

women are good judges of character, if you can't get a gf, it's because you're not a decent person and you need to self-improove!

i had a dream that the tv was saying mike tyson had a weird thing growing on his face, then 6 months later, mike tyson was like half a giant blob of flesh, so it was like half man half flesh heap, then 6 months after that, the doctors seperated it and it had been a tiger embryo they implanted in his cheek to grow into a tiger with mike tysons genetics, mike told the interviewer that "it's not art work, it's the devil's work!" it was a bald tiger with no stripes but looked ferocious as shit. then in one of those weird dream shifts i was in jail with one of the terrorists from cs:go who had been captured alive after the bomb went off, he had been in prison for a long time and was getting parole soon so he was kinda old and overweight, and we were watching the replay of him shooting some cts from above and he was like "oh damn i didn't even aim, terrible shooting". it's weird man i can remember my dreams when the air conditioning is on, but otherwise i can't. magical dream conditioner.

I'm so thoroughly brain dead. I've been struggling to get a job for six months, finally got one and I feel nothing. I don't feel bad, I feel nothing. It's a good job too. I tell people and they are so happy for me but I feel nothing. Just numb numb numb. On the plus side I have a date this week, whatever.

>>20616176
ya i took a full time job in the tight post-covid job market. it's cool to have good health insurance and a 401k and shit and it's unbelievably easy, like many days i just browse the web all day, but it has killed any creativity. i haven't written a line of code or opened blender or aseprite or logic pro in months. god it sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPhzgxe3L0

>>20615754
i don't know, like Cryptonomicon i guess.
there's a lot of coding in it.

>>20616437
sorry that's fiction.
the only non-fiction books i read are about geology so i can't help you.

How the fuck are you going to tell me that boughten isn't a word? As in, "I should've boughten the other one."

>>20616457
Why would it be?
>I should've bought the other one.

>>20612481
Call the police immediately, that's a death threat

>>20616457
Anon, I...

>>20614932
Yep because I’m not a retard. Already lost 2 family members to covid.

I haven't talked to a girl intimately in over a year. I dumped my last gf when she denied me sex... once. I dumped the girl before her because she wanted to get more serious. And the girl before that, my first 'love' cheated on me, gangbanged by 5 guys then ghosted me, which is why I decided to never be intimate with a woman ever again and only use them for sex or for making children if I ever want a kid.
Am I in the wrong? Or am I just too intelligent to fall for the trickery?

>>20614902
Why is that pedo? It's a little girl, fully clothed and everything, reading to a cat. It's wholesome.

>>20614932
The pandemic is OVER.

>>20616011
Er...more like the exact opposite.

finally the /wwoym/ getting some action. this shit was languishing all morning.

>>20610179
I read a little about reading vertical text for latin characters when I heard that vertical Japanese text was one of the main reasons why the Death Note game for the NDS never got translated. The results were bad but I wonder if the solution is something as simple as making the first character in the column upright and have the rest be turned 90 degrees CW.

>>20615185
by this logic the porn industry exists without profiting

You should be able to sue a parent for abusing you. There is a moral duty to support this framework. the reasons it does not exist are practical (the impossibility of proving abuse--certainly the child did not have wherewithal to video record it all, and that the abusive parent often has no money and by the time abuse is recognized is entering old age) and social (society being still unwilling to admit that parents can be abusive and not just physically, that it can cause material as well as emotional damage to the child, that it is a matter of negligence of duty, etc). Parents should fear their children.

>>20615185
>the mind of a lib
wait until you hear about these things called taxes.

>>20616781
what are you mad your dad pulled your trustfund after you failed at life?

>>20614932
Never. My job didn't give a fuck and all the bars and restaurants and store I go to didn't give a fuck after I showed them my blatantly fake vaxxpass. This comeme shit only lasted two weeks for me and then it was business as usual.

>>20615948
you gonna answer it?

In my time on this board I have seen some people think that there could be some revolutionary writers on here. I have also seen many people dismiss this board as nothing more than a place for academic rejects and people with delusions of grandeur. Not trying to be doubtful, but I'm curious as to what makes people think this board could hold such talent. This board certainly has people who are very passionate about literature, but passion alone does not entail literary success. I do certainly think there are competent writers here, who may be getting screwed over by the current state of the publishing industry, but I don't tend to sway either way when it comes to the possibility that a defining writer of our era could be here right now. While this place is bound to attract all sorts of people with literary interests, at the same time any great writer would likely be just writing, or searching for experiences to help their writing. Not wasting their life on a Japanese animation imageboard, like me, and probably you.

>>20614932
lol no.

>>20616969
Answer WHAT?
You want recommendations for non-fiction, you say you're a midwit learning C#, and you want to write post-apocalyptic stories.
These three things have literally nothing to do with each other.
What sort of non-fiction is useful for writing post-apocalyptic stories? The point of an apocalypse is that very little survives. Are you looking for "The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire"?
And what does computer programming have to do with literature?
"Learning C#" is just going to get you a low-level, low-paid code-grinding job. You'll build shacks, and completely miss the concept of skyscraper architecture.
Unless I'm missing something...your question is nonsense gibberish.

my cat has disappeared
feel like shit, she's such a sweet little girl

>>20617174
c# is like shitty off-brand java from microsoft, like sierra mist to sprite. there are actually less c# jobs now than that god awful apple clusterfuck known as swift. the only redeeming thing that makes c# relevant is that unity uses it.

>>20617167
Isn't "social media engagement", or whatever, necessary for literary success these days?
We can start here if we're too nervous to put ourselves out there by name.
This way, we sink or swim based on our content alone, not our "social media history", which these days is pored over by midwits solely for the purpose of threadbare excuses for cancellation.
Anonymity gives me the freedom that "cancel culture" denies me.

>>20617198
Why tell me? I wasn't the one defending C#.
In any case, C# has continued to grow as a language, while Java has stagnated.
Seems that Microsoft cares about programmer engagement, while Oracle is more about suing its users (e.g. Google).

>>20617198
is python better?

>>20617204
i wish it were still stagnating, they bloat up java with fad features and syntactic sugar on a six month schedule now.

>>20617205
depends on what you want to do? if you want do data shit and machine learning then ya it's better. if you want to make a bunch of scripts to automate shit on your unix boxes, ya it's better. if you want to make apps or games and publish them to consoles and phones, no it's fucking shit.

>>20617205
Pynchon is better, yes

i haven't read a fiction book i've truly enjoyed in over a decade to say at least, but it's probably longer
i just don't know where all the good books are
i know people must be writing stuff and putting it out there, but all the stuff on mainstream sites is cookie cutter garbage, mostly woke now too, and on pseud places like /lit/ there's just an endless circlejerk over the classics and meme books
even /sffg/ talks about older books mostly, it's like nothing worthwhile has come out past 2010

>>20617205
Python's lack of compile-time checking makes it a bit dangerous to use for large, robust projects.

>>20617257
i thought python was a writer

>>20617252
read more books nigga

>>20617183
that's really sad, anon, but she might be back soon
cats fuck off for a long time if they go mate
stay strong, and hope that song bull is out there fucking the everliving shit out of your cat and satisfying her like she deserves

>>20617269
such as? like what a worthless reply when you don't name anything

>>20617235
just for general entry codemonkey job

>>20617289
Thomas Pynchon, Robert Stone, Don Delillo, John Barth, Thomas Bernhardt

>>20617299
if you just want to work for somebody else for salary, probably javascript and react has the most demand and salary.

>>20617183
Keep in mind Chaucer's bit on cats

Lat take a cat, and fostre him wel with milk,
And tendre flesh, and make his couche of silk,
And lat him seen a mous go by the wal;
Anon he weyveth milk, and flesh, and al,
And every deyntee that is in that hous,
Swich appetyt hath he to ete a mous.

She's probably having a blast, murdering and torturing small birds and rodents, as is her nature.

>>20617315
are you fucking retarded? my post is about what new books worth reading have come out in the last few years, and you reply that i should go read pynchon and co. as if i didn't already do that like everyone else on this board?
honestly, just kill yourself, and considering you can't even follow a single post made up of a few sentences i'd recommend you start with children's books for reading material until you advance to something like vampire ya

can a law be considered a form of technology? does technology have to manifest materially, like a hammer or computer, to be considered technology?

>>20617252
These days, the fiction books I read fall into two main categories:
[1] Known classics, e.g. Hugo award winners
[2] Self-published books by unknown writers I encounter here
If I make it through the "look inside" portion on Amazon, I'll drop money for an unknown writer's book, and write them a nice review, but it pains me that's all I can do to support them.

>>20617357
you seem to be butthurt bro, need some pill for your anal pain? I can hook you up np

>>20617374
how do you find those unknown writers to begin with, though
do you literally just browse amazon sections, or what? if you have any blogs or whatever with recommendation that would be welcome

>>20617205
A good computer programmer can pick up new languages on the fly.
You seem to be implying that you don't realize that, or that you can't do that.
You will only get low-tier, low-paid, code-grinding jobs if you can't rise above that.
t. works in R&D

>>20617377
hook yourself to a gas chamber imbecile

>>20617183
Coyotes got that little pussy. Next time don't get a bitchmade cat. My tomcat got jumped by three coyotes and fucked them up worse than they got him.

>>20617379
I browse /lit/ and specifically the /wg/ thread.
People announce their books all the time.
I've bought maybe 1/3 of the ones I see, after reading the "Look Inside" section.

>>20617370
you don't understand the term at all and you shouldn't think of it as technology in the modern sense
a better way to think of the original word would be "craft" and under craft they usually listed manual labor
so, no, lawyering or even legislating would not be a techne, sophistry wasn't one either

>>20617386
the asshurt just keeps on coming and coming, you seem to really love yourself lol

>>20617395
i had no idea people posted their actual work in there, i just assumed it was for teenagers practicing basic writing

>>20617405
perhaps there is a different word for technology in the modern sense? its definition, i think, would be "a means by which some goal or function is achieved"
i am having trouble mending the old sense of the word with the new one

>>20616661
>I dumped my last gf when she denied me sex... once
she denied or was just scared?

>>20617442
i'm not sure what you're asking
if you are talking about greek philosophy, then you can say techne, and what you mean is clearer
>its definition, i think, would be "a means by which some goal or function is achieved"
but that wasn't really what techne was for the greeks, that definition is closer to an efficient cause than what's meant by techne, which again, is mostly similar to what we mean by craftsmanship today
some bitch selling you her homemade sweater on etsy possesses techne, a CEO or lawyer doesn't, because they don't make anything
it's not about achieving a goal, it is about production and the specific combination of direct skills and knowledge that goes into the labor production of said object, be it a pot, a chair, whatever

>>20617421
It's that too. A lot of overly purple prose with rampant spelling/grammar/punctuation errors.
But people post info on their book releases, too.
See >>>/lit/wg/ ; the OP has a pastebin of releases.
picrel has been making the rounds too.
Of those 8, I've read/bought "Son Of The Sun" and "Salvation On Peril Island" and enjoyed both.

>>20617528
wait... was the author of call of the croc actually a /lit/ poster?

>>20617531
that's the joke, he used to shill it here all the time and even bought banner ads for it. how new ARE you anyways?

I won't go to town and get drunk because I want to or because I will like it once I'm there, I will solely do it because I will regret having sat at home doing nothing otherwise. That's how I ever got anywhere in life.

>>20617421
There are also a lot of people posting web-novel serials on RoyalRoad (and, to a lesser extent, ScribbleHub and WattPad), but you have to look for their "new chapter" announcements to hear about most of them.

>>20617535
not new at all ('08), but i don't come online much anymore, and i rarely visit /lit/ anymore since it feels like groundhog day and it's the same 16 yos that just discovered kant/spengler/hegel making threads day after day
you can genuinely find better discourse on twitter than /lit/ nowadays, at least if you want to talk about philosophy

>>20617509
>it's not about achieving a goal, it is about production
this helped, appreciated.
i'm interested in a different idea that i don't know the word for. a word for some tool that is implemented by some subject to interact with some object, i guess. it can be to achieve any goal, not necessarily for production. for instance, writing and books are means by which information is propogated; legs are means by which one achieves the function of moving around. "technology" doesn't seem to be the right word, but i'll keep looking.

>>20617557
i have never gotten drunk and i turned 30 this week, and no, before you ask, i'm not from a religious family or country, i'm not a virgin, and i even have a girlfriend right now
however, i will say my father was obsessed with sports, bodybuilding in particular, and always spoke of alcoholics like subhumans so i think it rubbed off on me that alcohol is only for proles and degenerates

>>20617575
you have the word already, you can just say "means" or use the translation of the term in a different language if it helps to isolate it
and it's not like you need to know the right word to express yourself, don't worry, if there's a word out there, even if it was used by only 3 people in the '40s, there will be some retarded faggot informing you that you should've used it and that you're a brainlet for not knowing the literal who that made it up

>>20617598
it's a bit tricky to use the word "means" because my goal is to understand laws, morals, and ideas in general as forms of technology (in the modern sense of the word, i suppose). i think information propogating itself through time is the essence of life, and since memes or whatever do that, i believe they are an abstract form of life -- like some kind of meta-organism. the word "means" does work, but eh, i'll just keep using technology because it sounds better to me

>>20617636
what is the main difference between what you're saying and hegel's conception of spirit, because it doesn't sound all that different

>>20617653
hm, i've never read hegel. i will look into this, thanks anon

>>20617578
You really are a unique snowflake aren't you?

>>20617703
i doubt it, i bet most people on 4chan haven't gotten drunk
but there's a lot of dumb lousy alcoholics on here too

>>20617658
kind of problematic to start theorizing about the world when you haven't even read the most basic philosophers up to this point, anon
read kant, read hegel, read heidegger, in that order
and whatever you do, do NOT read some shitty 100p "introduction to" book, they will do more damage than good
and if you're too lazy for all of this then get
https://b-ok.global/book/875651/2d5650

What if during their nightly strolls cats gather to talk philosophy, and they really like Nietzsche, not so much for what he says, but for his big moustache...

>>20617747
Given how much cats slaughter, I'd figure their philosophy would be more Norse/Viking/berserker.

I want to radically commit to what I want for my life but my obligations and relationships prevent me.

>>20617786
Then you don't actually want to radically commit pussy. I abandoned my wife and kids to pursue my dreams and I don't regret it at all. I hardly ever think about them in fact.

>>20617807
was your dream to be a degenerate that deserves the rope

>>20617807
based
>Verification not required.

>>20617783
Interesting thing cat owners told me is that female domestic cats are more into hunting than males, but given cats are neutered today, it's hard to say if that's characteristic of gender or hormone levels going down.

>>20617807
Do you think radical commitment is exclusively what you would consider radical enough?

If you’re never going to see someone again after a year, is it better to spend that year distancing from them, spending more time with them, or business as usual?

>>20617856
Did you have to attend special Ed classes in school?

>>20617864
Just move on with your life. They won't spend any braincells thinking about you. Especially if it's a femoid you're still pathetically pining over.

Coil is the best band of all times

>>20617889
YES. YES I DID YOU FUCKING NIGGER BITCH. I HAD TO ATTEND SPECIAL ED CLASSES IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL YOU FUCKING RETARD. AND I HAD TO ATTEND SPECIAL ED CLASSES ALL THROUGHOUT HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WELL. YOU DUMB FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER WOMAN. I WANT YOU FUCKING DEAD. I WANT TO FLAY THE SKIN OFF YOUR THIGHS AND LEAVE YOUR FEMURS EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS. I WANT TO GRATE OFF THE BOTTOMS OF YOUR FEET AND TAKE AWAY YOUR SHOES. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>20617900
I liked Horserotorvator, but the rest of their work was kinda boring.
Plus, they're way too much into being gay. Kind of gross.

>>20617920
listen to Ape of Naples and Black Antlers. Their best stuff in my view

The only thing necessary for the triumph of good is for men to do nothing,

>>20617900
>>20617920
>>20617935
you need to be 18 to post here

>>20617958
wat

>>20617935
Is it? I started with the song "Black Antlers", and it's pretty middling IMHO.

>>20617958
Coil's final album was 2005, so someone under 18 would, at best, have been born at the time.
So what exactly are you going on about?
I was a big industrial fan back in the early-to-mid '90s, and heard Coil then.

>>20617383
>can't rise above that.
how to rise above that?

>>20618011
Hard work, and actually having a talent for the craft.
You know, like everything else in the world.

>>20618024
>actually having a talent for the craft
I dont really have that. No any passion projects or anything.

>>20618041
Then you're better off working as a janitor.

>>20618060
Black or white thinking, eh?

Ministry is the second best band of all times

wow when I first heard this track I was 13 and my friend Jim said he was gonna make me smoke dope.
this brings me back, thanks cool dance muzick 80s&90s

>>20618111
There's nothing wrong with being a janitor. It's basic rote work. I used to work at a factory and the janitors were unionized and had good pay with steady raises and medical and benefits. Just goes to show you soft pussies care more about your job title than making an honest living.

>>20618138
Sure, but forget about being anything other than renting from paycheck to paycheck.

What are your thoughts on Dick Ringler and his oral work?

I dislike the commenters who tell you to look something up instead of giving their best example

>>20618060
Actually, that's what'll happen if anon continues into the software profession, the way he's going...he'll be the equivalent of a janitor, cleaning up other people's crappy code.
I call it "high tech ditch digging".

>>20618171
Dirk Diggler? Boogie Nights was pretty good I admit

>>20618118
Why rate art? Just enjoy music.
I like Ministry, but haven't been in the mood for that much aggro in a long time.
I vastly prefer space rock, e.g. Hawkwind and their offshoots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ODgHkgf8Og
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OytZekcZst4

>>20618193
No, Dick Ringler. He translated Beowulf with an emphasis on its orality.

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>>20618213

nigger

>>20617895
It’s my parents and siblings.