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20612042 No.20612042 [Reply] [Original]

How do we deal with the 'oversocialized wordcel midwits being indistinguishable from actually intelligent people' problem?

I'm talking at-a-glance here.

>> No.20612055

>>20612042
Talk to them for a few minutes, it becomes apparent whether they are midwit or not.

>> No.20612058

>>20612042
>oversocialized wordcel midwits
If they say things like this you can spot 'em pretty easy.

>> No.20612065
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>>20612058
Not going to pretend like I didn't see this coming.

Regardless, you understood exactly what I meant.

>> No.20612129
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I like to pretend I'm a lot smarter than I actually am and you can't do a damn thing about it.

>> No.20612186
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I like to pretend I'm a lot dumber than I actually am and you can't do a damn thing about it

>> No.20612210

>>20612186
JFC same.

Its better to pretend to be retarded than attempt communication.

>> No.20612219
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>>20612042
Shut the fuck up. Please, shut the fuck up.

>> No.20612239

>>20612042
this:
>>20612055
a person can pretend all they want, but they can't actually fake it. At some point they'll say something, and it'll just click. Oh, they've been an idiot this whole time.

>> No.20612280

>>20612219
Is that what we tell them? Or?

Wittgenstein would probably agree.

>> No.20612299

>>20612219
why does hitler look like dewey wilkerson?

>> No.20612492

fpbp

>> No.20612550

>>20612042
You need to define what a "midwit" and an "intellinget person" is. Everybody seems to have a different interpretation. So many of you trowing around these word as if they were universally agreed upon. It's funny because most of us are midwits, reffering to others midwits as 'midwits', meanwhile we are midwits outselfs.

>> No.20612565

>>20612042
It's only possible if you share an interest with them that you understand so deeply you are able to distinguish someone faking it.

The other option is to wait for big narrative shifts like the memeflu and watch them behave nonsensically.

>> No.20612568

>>20612492
What does this mean? "fpbp"

>> No.20612583

>>20612565
Memes are an intrinsic part of modern culture. What's wrong with having fun with a meme? You're one of those 'no fun allowed' hardheaded conservative types?

>> No.20612588

What exactly does "oversocialized" mean? I've been seeing it crop up a lot on the chans lately, and I've a hunch it's just losers coping for not having any friends.

>> No.20612598
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Metaphysics

>> No.20612608

>>20612588
Read the Unabomber.

>> No.20612620

You can sus out midwits easily with math. Just ask them for a proof that the algerbraic real numbers are countable or something else easy. If they can't do it they're a big fat phony faker.

>> No.20612698

>>20612620
I can't fathom a situation where someone came at me with this question out of nowhere and I didn't laugh at their autism.

>> No.20612705

>>20612620
that's right, the "baffle them with bullshit" technique. a classic.

>> No.20613391

play chess with them. anyone below 2000 in chess doesnt deserve to read lit and pretend like theyre getting something out of it. if you suck at chess stop reading now.

>> No.20613449

>>20612042
If they can't understand the concept a word represents. They can only understand the approximations of concepts but not the concepts themselves.

>> No.20613463

>>20612620
Yeah you think you're so smart? Let's see you pull an engine and rebuild it.

>> No.20613470

>>20612042

>'oversocialized wordcel midwits

Can you please rephrase this in English, rather than retarded Zoomer babble. Thanks.

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>>20612042
Paradoxes. Leading questions that bring them to it. And refusing to elaborate. Dialogue between frens, rhetoric to opponents only interested in eristic self-justification for their rationale.

>> No.20614032

>>20612550
midwit is 105-115iq

>> No.20614051

>>20612568
first post, best post

keep up with the newfag lingo, oldfag

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>>20612042
Ask them good questions.

>> No.20614148

>>20612588
Just a new way to refer to leftists and other conformists who take argumentative cues from popular beliefs

>> No.20614162

>>20612550
Only intelligent post in the thread.

>> No.20614188

>>20612042
> midwits being indistinguishable from actually intelligent people' problem?
You can't, because there's a cap to how smart you can speak before you have to dumb yourself down to be understood, and beyond that point it's all about tailoring your language to your audience to seem just a little higher OR lower than them.

>>20612550
>most of us are midwits, reffering to others midwits as 'midwits', meanwhile we are midwits outselfs.
This is a paradox of humility. Those who are humble are more likely to be highly intelligent, but if you tell people that then then they get over-confident and become dumbasses... As well, once idiots hear that humble people are more likely to be intelligent, they get it into their idiotic heads that it's ACTING. So dumbfucks start humble-bragging to pretend to be smart.

Then there's an additional layer of socio-paths who *ARE* smart but who are far more power-hungry than rational and who will fucking use the skills they DO have to fake the skills they'd DON'T have, and it just ends up tripping EVERYBODY up because the fucking scumbag retard sociopaths are harming society by inadvertently mis-applying their own skills.
If the sociopaths actually had social-awareness, they'd be able to realize that they could be doing the exact same things by applying their skills differently, but because they don't all they do is fuck up society.

>> No.20614420

>>20612219
Why would they be in the same school when Hitler was a middle class bumpkin and Wittgenstein came from a friggin dynasty?

>> No.20614588

>>20612608
He has a name, you know

>> No.20614599

>>20613391
Go is a better measurement for G than chess. It actually entails creativity and abstract logic. Chess past 1800 is just rote memorization.

>> No.20614688

>>20614599
finna learn GO so my math phd friend will stop making fun of my intelligence

>> No.20614701

>>20614688
But this is about image, anon. How is it supposed to help if most don’t even know how to play it?

>> No.20614735

>>20612042
People that agree with me = intelligent
People that disagree with me = unintelligent

Simple as.

>> No.20614769

>>20613391 >>20614599
Play Chess, but each chess piece is a Go board with starting handicap inversely proportional to the piece's value. You win by having the most territory in Go, counted by the surviving chess pieces at the end of the chess match; Kings instead count as one full Go board's worth of territory for the player who controls them, such that losing your king in the chess match isn't everything-or-nothing, but it's a massive blow.

Probably needs a few more rules than that in practice, but that'd be a good start

>> No.20614922

>>20612042
Get a translator first

>> No.20615014

>>20612299
>wilkerson?
ew

>> No.20615048

>>20612042
>oversocialized wordcel midwit
Don’t throw bricks from glass houses buddy.

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>> No.20615325

>>20613470
fr fr bussin

>> No.20615434

>>20613449
Can you give an example?

>> No.20615472

>>20614032
Then I guess you have to find out how smart you are (by taking an IQ test by your logic) and then have a deep conversation with the supposed midwit. This is the only way to tell a midwit apart from an intelligent person.

>> No.20615541

>>20612550
The archetypal midwit is someone who has cargo cult thinking/memorizes logic trees of arguments without actually understanding them and uses it to gain social status via pseudo intellectual maxxing. I find what makes these types so repulsive is their lack of introspection/desire to actually learn things and instead just commodify learning for social gain. I have this sort of believe that a midwit is not necessarily a range on a bell curve, but rather a spiritual condition. I have met people with poor articulation skills and not much education who I have had great and thought provoking conversations with and people who went to good universities who are ignorant as fuck, yet what made them so insufferable was them being lost in their hubris.