/lit/ - Literature

Hell yeah, dude. I'm re-reading Path of Destruction right now.

Star Wars is faggy and for fags, it's the Walmart/Hot Topic of science fiction and you're a fucking faggot for loving it.

>/sffg/ goodreads
>all pinned books are fag shit

You people are fucking disgusting

I want to systematically exterminate all star wars fans in existence. Shit has no business being as popular as it is, especially after those visual storytelling abortions that were the prequels

>>20605175
What’s a good fantasy that is also a sci fi? All I can think of is Prince of Thorns

>>20605295
New Sun
Dying Earth
A Princess of Mars

>>20605205
>>20605252
Excellent posts. Star Wars is for children and also totally soulless. It exists only for profits.

>>20605217
They won't be there tomorrow.

>>20605217
The goodreads group is full of normalfags.
>>20605252
It's the male Harry Potter: shallow entry-level nonsense devoid of any merit.

jolenta booba shining in the bright sun, nipples getting hard from the breeze just over the water

>>20605217
The assumption is everyone's read the well known shit so you go for less known books.

>>20605511
So too is the thread, and really 4chan as a whole now.

>>20605615
That assumption would be wrong. There's not even a majority, let alone everyone.

>>20605628
There's entire websites of top 100 books you can find. This is our sikrit club and it's about sikrit books.

>>20605217
I don't even get the featured books anymore. In the past it was the book group was reading for that period of time, now they're putting up multiple books for some reason.

>>20605717
>>/lit/thread/S20451675#p20460082
>>20594647
>>20595563

It's only "they" if you mean singular, because it's only me.

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/22169840-where-from-here-a-discussion-on-the-future-of-this-group
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/21187874-why-this-group-exists-and-how-to-use-it
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/22179900-monthly-book-suggestions

If this doesn't answer your question, let me know.

>>20605786
Oops, linked to the thread rather than the post
>>20595527

If someone wants to try to start up a separate reading of books in the thread again, or elsewhere, I wish you the best of luck in doing so, and hope you succeed.

One more post on the matter.
Jan: continued from previous choices
Feb: Only 1 book because I was still deciding on what I wanted to do.
Mar: See above
Apr: Just allowed whatever was posted in the thread
>>/lit/thread/S20121746#p20121764

May:
I picked 1 book per week as the cover, but also posted in the thread and in the description text on GR many other books. Example:
>>/lit/thread/S20343976#p20346469

June:
I was going to do the 4 per week here, but I couldn't find enough suitable books to do 4 for each, so I just put 4 for the entire month rather than 1 per week.

July:
I got around to doing multiple per week to feature, because that seemed more like it'd serve the purpose of potentially getting people to read more, even if it's without discussion. I could say more on this topic, but eh.
>>/lit/thread/S20594647#p20595527

August:
I have ideas for the theme, but I'm open to suggestions. It'll probably be 4 for the entire month again.

about to finish TWI 4
>scrape vol 5-6 as epub
>check in to see if the file is normal
>first sentence looks like a major spoiler
NOOOOOOOOOO

>>20605175
Hey, what do you like to see in the gods of fantasy settings and why? Like, how powerful they are, if they can be killed, how their domains work, that kind of thing. Besides the common answer of making them dependent on mortal faith for survival, what are some things that a lot of authors do that you hate and why?

>>20605905
I like when they are left either totally out of the story or are more defined with rules, like the Malazan ones

The cosmere ones are interesting, they have rules/limitations but I also don't understand the limitations, especially concerning odium. I feel like he's retarded because he should have been able to influence a lot more people than he did.

>>20605917
I'm a fan of the Cosmere books too, in regards to Odium one thing that you have to remember is that he's kind of a coward, like how he 'could' destroy the Stormfather easily if he wanted to use his full power, but he'd expose himself to a strike from Cultivation, who hates him for killing her lover Honor, and he won't make himself vulnerable for but a moment. Among other flaws of course.

I haven't read the Malazan books, what do you like about the gods there? How do their limits compare to the gods of the Cosmere?

wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time wheel of time

sex with tylin sex with tylin sex with tylin

HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>>/tv/170358656
you lose again /sffg/

>>20605994
well the elder 'gods' in malazan are more like the kind that get power when worshipped, but they can die to, from overwhelming power or more often from the power of another god
some are more involved in the story than others and have various power levels due to worship

>>20606038
i t will be cancelled after 2 seasons

Starting the Three Body Problem

Read cradle

>>20606444
Same here, Anon. I'm 100 pages in and I find the prose a little clunky, probably because its translated.

>>20606568
yeah l was worried about the translation but l've had some spoilers and it sounded interesting enough to give a go

I want the elves in my book to be weak to iron and steel, to become nauseous in its presence. But why iron and steel? I need a reason. Can they be averse to all metals instead?
Give me some good (pseudo)scientific reasons why elves might hate iron or metals, /sffg/.

>>20606597
It's too "crude" to them. It's like a weird meta physical allergy that has been with them since day one. They are fine with the materials that they are actually born to use.

>>20606597
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_in_folklore

Anybody here enjoy the warhammer fantasy novels? I find them great for the price tag. My favourites so far are the Mathias Thulman books.

>>20606535
Will Wight commissioned a promo webtoon recently

>>20606654
I'm on my way to read the first two books about the adventures of Gotrek & Felix. Will see how it goes. :D

Definitely interested in reading more Warhammer and 40k books in the future too. (Love the lore) Just a tad scared because there is really none translated in my language.

Have to put on my big boy pants and start reading them in english.

>>20606720
I've read the first two omnibus' of Gotrek & Felix, they're great, especially the first one. Hope you enjoy anon.

>>20606535
You excited for Dreadgod? I hope we get more Ziel. I really enjoy tired burnout characters who pretend to not give a shit but actually do.

>>20606742
Because that reminds you of yourself?

>>20606038
>he still watches television and/or films
Shiggy diggy. Hollywood is the Great Satan and must be destroyed.

>>20606772
Maybe? Although in Ziel's case it's more like a rising star athlete who had his future career ruined by a crippling injury. Which I can't really relate to.

>>20606799
Did you read the Ziel spin-off short story?

>>20606804
Nah, didn't know Wight published short fiction. I'll have to check it out.

>>20606693
there's been a fanart webtoon chapter floating around for years

>>20605252
>especially after those visual storytelling abortions that were the prequels
?
Prequels were directed by the same guy that did the original film, with basically the same palette of camera moves etc.

>>20606597
Usually it's elves are magic manifest or closely incorporate it in their bodily function, and ferrous metals interrupts magic because it's "of the earth" and "grounds the magical signal"

worth reading if l liked the original?

>>20606804
Is that in Gateways?

>>20606825
It's called The Savior of Garden's Gate and is in the Heroes Wanted anthology.

>>20606693
Could be cool, but most webtoons that come out of the west gave godawful artstyles.

>>20606842
I think a style similar to what the DC animated movies do could be cool.

>>20605175
The year is halfway over now.
How's your reading progress gone?
For me, it's:
69 Novels
16 Anthologies
7 Collections
5 Short Fiction
3 Novellas
100

>>20606839
Ty anon, I'll definitely check it out!

>>20606912
I don't really prioritize quantity when it comes to books because it hurts my reading comprehension in the long run. There's way too many books I've read through in one or two nights then three months later I find I remember almost nothing that happened in the book.

TWI V5 massive spoilers
>my [Queen[ Lyonette is getting the ant dick
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>wang
>yang
>lei
>lin
>wenjie
>wenxue
>zhecheng
>zhetai
>dong
>ding
>shi
>shen
Uh…

>>20605175
did the torrent die?

>>20607051
How written-out is the fug in TWI?
I had four NSFW sequences in my first book, all written out to the same detail as any other scene, so they took up a good 10k words total

>>20607065
just imagine they're alien names

>>20607065
brainlet

>>20606993
I think trying to remember everything from entertainment, or really anything, is both unrealistic and unnecessary.

>>20607071
No, the thread was deleted before it was archived though. It can be seen in /t/ archive. The relevant stuff should still work.

>>20606912
2 books

>>20607080
There's no explicit fug scenes at all
It is mentioned a few times though here and there, some characters have sex, and there's a couple chapters that explore how it works between the species and stuff, but there's no seggs scenes

>>20605905
Gods make practically everything they actually appear in worse. Its actually crazy how consistent it is. Unless they're baked into the plot of the story that is.

>>20607109
figured as much, that's how I've taken to handling it as well more or less

>>20607099
thx

>>20607065

>>20607091
I’m just not used to it

>>20607065
I never remember the actual names of anyone in books
I just have a mental image of the character, the approximate size of their name and a couple letters in the name
50% of the time works all the time

>>20607182
The mindset of a true anon, even if they have names, all are anon.

>>20606742
not really, I dropped the series midway

Ceria is a shameless hussy who'd spread her legs in the middle of the forest for anyone whenever she goes into heat.

>>20607222
>still shitposts in every thread with that terrible fanart
I respect the autism but also please kys.

I can't stand reading long, overly descriptive action scenes, they bore me to death.

>>20607352
If between individuals, I agree. Armies and even small units I can take much more of.

>>20607352
My brother in christ, you clicked on the "Martial Arts" tagged story.

>>20607051
Pawn [Spoiler]doesn't have one[/Spoiler]

>>20607051

The ending pissed me off.

Natalie and Saul ''win'' by lowering themselves to the same level as the creatures they despise so much: manipulating Melanie into conditioning and finally Using an innocent military man into ordering the bombing of the island and yacht. They knew very well that later that man would be convicted in a military court and spent the rest of his life in prison or get the death sentence (if Melanie didn't dispose of him before that). They ruined an innocent man's life. How is that different from the Oberst ruining the life of the man he used to kill Lee Harvey Oswald, or Melanie Using Natalie's father to achieve her immediate goals? Natalie is extra hypocritical for the line ''no one deserves to die like an extra in a B horror movie''. It tuns out our heroes are no different from the Mossad or Palestinian terrorists that would do anything to reach their objectives. The Oberst was right, him and Saul were not so different after all. Also their masterplan was to infiltrate a geriatric scholar into the island so he could play Rambo and NOT be killed, Used or captured in a thousand different ways that would ruin the mission, in the hopes that he could reach the very specific scenario of being alone with the Oberst and being Used by him? That is so incredibly stupid. Tony Harod, who seemed to be on a genuine path of self-improvement, if not redemption, gets the short end of the stick. While Saul and Natalie get a happy ending. If he relapsed into his old habits and Used that child actress again, he would notice the gun and survive. He only died because he was the only one that managed to turn into a (slightly) better person at the end of the story. I have to admit that I enjoyed the final twist of Melanie being alive, she somehow manages to be the most stupid and most clever character at the same time.

>>20607352
Someone once said to me that a good fight scene between two characters should feel like a "dialogue without words" and I've found that to be true. Beyond just striking imagery and good pacing (both of which are very important) there should be a sense of something being communicated between the characters if you're going to contrive a one on one fight scene.

>>20605295
>a good fantasy that is also a sci fi
The Deathstalker series by Simon Green.

Gotta read it again some day, the first time I didnt really appreciate it for what it was, I was just weirded out, but looking back it was pretty kino.

>>20607421
kek

>>20607513
That's a nice way to put it. Call me a pleb but I really enjoy how GRRM writes action scenes in ASOIAF. It's usually straight to the point and exciting.

>>20607513
Just do it the MGR way and have it be both a fight and an actual dialogue inbetween clashes

>>20607099
Why the heck was the torrent deleted? I was the OP for that one. The last thread and its predecessor had been up for several years before altogether without any issues...?! Copyright stuff?

>>20607386
I'm exactly the opposite. The larger the battle the more difficult it becomes for me to feel invested in the outcome. The absolute peak of this is when 40k has single battles with combatants in the millions or billions I just completely tune out.

>>20607560
I don't have any idea why it was, but that's how it is. It could be reposted here, on that board, or in a pastebin or similar.

>>20607560
All it takes is one C&D notice to 4chan staff. Could've been any number of authors, agents, or publishers behind it. I'd wait a month or two then remake the thread to see what happens.

So besides Cradle what are some other fantasy series that feel essentially like reading a shonen manga without pictures? All the Chinese stuff I tried is too soulless for me.

>>20607645
Light novels exist

>>20607560
Another possibility is that the IP address used to create the thread was banned. Whenever an IP address is banned it deletes all active posts and threads by IP address.

>>20607645
Fantasy set in a modernish world with immortals that have powers from the periodic table.

>>20607847
Forgot pic related.

>>20607267
Unfortunately that seems to be canon and the fact that her and Pisces are not gonna end up together saddens me deeply

>>20607645
There are none. Cradle itself is almost garbage. Maybe read pic related, not exactly shonen but book 1 is very good. Only read book 1 because in later books story gets seriously pozzed and ruined.

>>20607973
What do you mean, anon? Blood Song is a near perfect standalone novel that the author knew didn't need any mediocre follow ups.

>>20608027
it is a part of a series

>>20605175
What are you reading and what are you planning to read?

>>20607645
Every Sanderson book is basically that, except with, you know, shit pacing, terribly described action, and somehow even worse dialogue.

Ok I'm listening to this and I felt like I would hate it after the first ten minutes but now I'm starting to enjoy it

post your top five right now

>>20608314
shadow of the torturer
claw of the concilliator
sword of the lictor
citadel of the autarch
urth of the new sun

Do you think Cradle will start adding Elder Empire and/or Traveler's Gate references in the last books?

>>20608314
Age of madness trilogy
Red wall series
The last apprentice (before I read the last book which ruined the whole series )
Kings dark tidings (I haven't read book 5 I hear it shits the bed )
Overlord

Stand alones:
Between two fires
Sphere
Stars my destination
Solaris
starship troopers

>>20607065
The only ones that matter are the lady, Dong (I think he's Da Chi or "big brother or whatever, the cop) and the bitch.
When I saw the jumble of letters I would more often, just go "that one" and remember what they've done in the book already.

>>20607051
>>20607477
They are cute

>>20605893
>about to finish TWI 4
>>scrape vol 5-6 as epub
>>check in to see if the file is normal
>>first sentence looks like a major spoiler
>NOOOOOOOOOO
You are the second Anon do experience that. It's sad, and probably will happen to more people as existing downloadable versions all end at V4, so people check it out to see if it works. I'm sorry this happened to you, Anon.

>>20606912
Stop making me feel stupid.
It's not a competition. It's not a competition. It's not a competition.
I don't need to read every book an anon suggests so I perfectly know what I like and what I don't.
I don't need to read every book an anon suggests so I perfectly know what I like and what I don't.
I don't need to read every book an anon suggests so I perfectly know what I like and what I don't.

>>20608460
bro stop schizo posting
you'll have eternity to read

If only Anons knew how degenerated The Wandering Inn gets they would instantly start to read it. There are few stories that have this much racism, rape, genocide, torture, necrophilia, abuse etc. I gotta read this Bekker stuff to compare whether it gets as dark as TWI, that would be an achievment for Bekker.

>>20608488
Stop trying to shill that crap.

We read that gobbo lover shitfest and want no part of it.

>>20608488
Bakker you web-novel reading spastic.

>>20608402
No, they are not. They are my least favourite couple in TWI. Pawn is two years old. I remember his perspective where he thinks about how he is not sure if what he is feeling is romantic love and then she tells him to not worry about it. That's the opposite of cute.

Pirateaba can't do romance. Vol 8 spoilers: Niers and Erin have a 40 year age gap. Ryoka and Tryion had at least 20. The story has many furry or scaley relationships. The closest thing to a cute relationship the story came to was Talia and Rabbiteater and I don't want to list the numerous problems I have with how that is being developed.

>>20608488
TWI is badly written shit even when comparing to fanfics

>>20608511
>mfw my main couple that is just "they're best friends due to share interest in monster hunting and they fuck like rabbits" repeatedly gets praised as being better handled than most relationships

is the bar seriously so low that a functional relationship without retarded pointless drama is a rarity

what do you think of larry niven

>>20608511
I'll not dispute Pirateaba doing romance badly, only Imani and Palt are decent, but I don't Rabbiteater and Talia are supposed to be a romance now, Pirate did a pivot from that. As for Ants, Pirateaba does this weird thing where some races like Ants and Goblins are both young and old. With humans we would argue they are too young, but if Pirate says they are mentally mature, they are, you cannot really argue with a premise. And Ryoka+Tyrion is horrible, hope Pirate will drop it. But now that he was threw back in time...

>>20608511
lmao the only acceptable partners for Ryoka are Relc and Fierre

>>20608314
Realm of the Elderlings
Asoiaf
Malazan
First Law
The Eddas

>>20608550
>Imani and Palt
>Relationship starts after one party gets rejected by the main character.
>Literal rebound bitch.
>Somehow fixed all their issues off-screen.
>Centaur male X Human woman.
>"He was nice to me and gave me magic weed so I am in love."
Hey, at least they have a shared hobby in cooking.
>>20608562
Relc's daughter is probably older than Ryoka. Fierre is ok, though I would prefer if pirate just pretended like romance isn't a thing. He is terrible at it.

>>20603765
>Fuck I really don't understand why people want illustrations in their books It makes me mad
It's not that hard to understand anon. I don't know what a "Rygtha" looks like based on the description paragraph on page 96 of Reaper's Gale. I've seen about six illustrations of that axe and they're all different, so it's clear that I'm not the only one that has trouble picturing it. If anything it's weird that more authors steadfastly refuse to provide illustrations as if doing so would somehow soil the purity of their paperback genre fiction. I've seen people put more effort into sketching out a birdhouse they were building. It's a simple communication problem. The simplest solution is to provide a diagram and more authors should consider this. The worst is complicated battles with dozens of regiments traversing complex terrain. For crying out loud, provide a rough sketch of the land to help your readers set the scene in their mind.

>>20608511
I'm still reading V5 but what the fuck are those pairings...

>>20608929
I mentioned that it was vol 8 spoilers so that you won't click on them. If it's any consolation, I don't think any of them are actually going to work out.

>>20605175
In regards to magic that can manipulate Space, what are some good secondary powers/kinds of magic that you've seen or can come up with besides creating portals/teleporting, summoning, and the like?

>>20608362
Technically it already has, at least for Elder Empire. They've mentioned Asylum a couple times during the Abidan sections. Which is the iteration EE takes place on, I forget what the iteration for Traveler's Gate is but I wouldn't be surprised if they've mentioned it there too.

>>20604879
>Anybody got any weight loss tips for an obese, balding fantasy fan?
Read Robert E. Howard. Exercise more. That and read the The Starch Solution by John A. MacDougall. I used to weigh over 240 lbs. Now I'm around 170 lbs and still doing chin-ups at 40. I firmly believe that nearly all diet advice is absolutely bullshit and refuse to take diet advice from fat doctors and meatheads that look like they're about to die of a heart attack.

>>20609042
Creating microscopic black holes that have the total mass of a tennis ball, they immediately radiate away to create an explosion rivaling that of a 500 megaton nuke.

>>20605205
I gave Star Wars novels a fair chance. I can't really get into them. Takes too much suspension of disbelief. Sith make no sense to me. The rule of two nonsense in particular. That and I don't believe in space travel. It's ridiculous how gullible people are. I'd rather read about make believe elves and dragons.

>>20609134
That seems a bit OP, but thanks. What other ideas do you have?

>>20609134
That would require a lot of force. So much force in fact that you might as well just have the wizard shoot a big fireball, or have the sky rain fire, or summon a dragon to raze a city. The result is the same and the process is more fun and less gay.
>Dude my le epic science mage made a microscopic black whole singularity that epicly NUKES his enemies...
>>20609042
Creating his own miniature cities and hideaways, perhaps deflecting people from locations so that they appear to not exist (see Mount Analogue). Making it so that someone in pursuit can't get any closer despite the wizard remaining in place (as if the pursuer were running on a treadmill). Goofy stuff like that.

>>20605508
Will July be the perfect opportunity to shill my self published stuff? It's all up on Good Reads and everything

>>20609330
Oh my mistake, I didn't realize the question was specifically about magic, I don't really like fantasy so I was thinking about sci-fi applications of space manipulation.

>>20609338
If you want to put in one of the existing threads or make a new one in the GR group about whatever you're free to do so. As for this thread, it's not any different than usual really I guess. Do as you will.

>>20609042
Well wouldn't it make it trivially easy to cause coloumbic explosions? All matter is pure energy held together only by geometry, if you cut someone in half with space magic they'd probably explode like TNT.
At the very least everything you use space magic on would become EXTREMELY radioactive and there'd be constant flashes of light, bolts of electricity, things randomly catching on fire, metals turning transparent, the air turning opaque, ice catching on fire, light being distorted and refracted into all sorts of flashing and strobing rays, etc... And in the longterm or with big magic basically anyone anywhere near it would almost immediately get horribly sick and die if they weren't killed by the energetic phenomena.
A space wizard would be like a radioactive disco rave laser show and I imagine 90% of space magic would be ways to contain all the space magic so you don't kill yourself using it.

Besides that, or if you don't use those effects, there'd be all sorts of strange counterintuitive physics going on because of relative densities like extremely light or heavy objects, distorted solid objects tied into knots, noneuclidean mazes, momentum being all out of whack, etc...

>>20609039
I don't really care much about spoilers desu

Has sffg watched Made in Abyss? Just watched the 3 movies and I feel like its similar to PoN, where it gets extremely fucked up at some points and is littered with the authors fetishes but you're still left in awe of the man and his vision

>>20609568
Not a pedo

>>20609570
Ok good for you, keep fighting the good fight and calling people pedos online. You're truly doing your part and making the world a better place one post at a time

>>20609575
Cope, disgusting pedo.

>>20609581
People don't really give a shit if you call them something they're not, you know. Its like calling a smart person an idiot, they just go "huh?".

>>20609568
I've read and watched it.

Had a dream about people in the future being able to travel to the past, and vice versa, with disasterous consequences

Anyone know of any books like this?
I.e. people in the present or future, interacting and mingling with people of the past or the ancient past?

>>20609568
I hate to be this guy, but after reading the manga, I can't watch the anime. Like fucking nothing happens in the anime AND it's all rushed.
You're missing out on peak Bon-Drewd.

>>20609751
What like traveling... time?
That sounds fucking stupid. How can you travel somewhere where the roads don't go?

>>20609570
No kidding! I hate when people draw circles on torsos but that torso is on a girl.
It makes me INSANE and ANGRY! Did you know some people touch themselves when they look at those circles? It's disgusting!

>>20609593
[Spoiler]People also don't really mind being called what they are either. I bet the guy your talking to thinks your me. He is incapable of coping when I ask...[/Spoiler]

Anyone read a good sffg book featuring loli's recently?

>>20609879
We should bring back crucifixion, only for pedophiles.

>>20609879
How do you see something as innocent and lovely as a young child and want to defile it? There's something wrong with you. Maybe you were raped as a little one. It's just tragic. Cut off your balls and take out your adrenal glands.

>>20609457
That's fine too, tell us what else you have in that regard.

>>20609330
Sounds nice, thanks! Have any similar ideas for Time magic?

>>20609499
Okay, the last part sounds cool, can you go into more details?

Sorry if this is a vague request, but what are some wintry fantasy books?

>>20610025
The Dark Is Rising immediately came to mind

>>20608714
Anon, this makes that relationship authentic. People IRL don't get together in some epic, dramatic way that's a plot point. Out of every relationship in the story Palt and Imani make the most sense.

Idk, I've read much worse 'romance' plotlines than those in TWI, I can't even say these are bad compared to Fantasy's usual 'they instantly fall in love and it's a great event and love story that spans the entire series.' Here people just like each other. Pirate definitely gets way more shit for it than it's warranted.

>mfw Meng Hao becomes the tribe's ancestor spirit
It's these kind of off the wall asspulls that make xianxia worth reading.

>>20608488
No thanks, I began rereading Made in Abyss and it covers a bunch of this weird shit. Too bad /a/, like every other board, is crawling with newfags who make discussion impossible.

>>20610311
I'm in it for the gizmos.
Show me more stuff that does things that no one understands.

>>20607939
you were supposed to deny it, not agree with me...
also no spoilers pls.

>>20610484
I'm not caught up with the story and I'm probably even behind you, it's just the vibe I've been getting

>>20608488
>that have this much racism, rape, genocide, torture, necrophilia, abuse etc.
it's not that dark till vol 4. i guess that changes?
or maybe it just doesn't seem that dark to me cause i'm not really a stranger to this kind of stuff.

>>20610319
>mfw playing the disappointment that was Tides of Numenera

A Thousand Li 7 finally leaked.

does the new Tor Essentials paperbacks of the Book of the New Sun have a larger font than the old Orb paperbacks?

>>20605175
You are familiar with string theory and others shit so What anons think of a music magic system?

>>20610753
learn english

How’s the anon who went to Tazzy going? Reading much there? There’s a book stall in the Salamanca Market.

>>20608263
It kinda throws you in deep at first. Just keep in mind it's essentially a missing person case.

So I fell for the Bakkerchad meme and read the Prince of Nothing Trilogy. Overall I found it quit enjoyable if a little rapey. But the entire trilogy is spent teasing a second apocalypse that doesn't happen by the end of it, am I really going to have to read another 4 books to get to that? Is the sequel series even worth reading?Will Achamian return to being a cuck?

>>20609064
It was, Amalgam is Traveler's Gate's Iteration. I hope it's sort of kept that other series don't blend into Cradle, that they're just kept as references. Though I'm still wondering how the hell Cradle can wrap up in just two books.

>>20611560
That's simple. It could be done in one book as well. The author just has to say it's finished and therefore it is. Could even do it in just a few pages.

>>20611582
I more meant I don't know how it could end satisfyingly.

>>20611591
That assumes you can be satisfied.

>>20611614
Do you actually care or are you just saying stuff.

is there any book series that deals with the topic of mars being colonized and terraformed then a cataclysm strikes both earth and mars sending civilization on both planets back to pre-technological levels and the series deals with the following:
>social development since the fall on mars, including the mythicization of their origin from earth
>technological challenges faced by martians including the lack of fossils making them unable to formulate evolution
>the eventual reunion of both planets when terrans come back in spaceships and create massive disruption among the locals

The ensuing silence answered that question.

>>20605905
I am literally obsessed with the concepts of God's and spiritual beings. I read so much mythology just to read about Gods (i.e, Iliad, Paradise Lost, Keats Hypeion, Prometheus Unbound) and especially loved Tolkien's Valar because they were like, primeval gods that had a raiment based off of their status. Like Varda was basically made out of light and stars, similar to the Greek Titans and primordials.

The concept fascinates me, and Malazan seems to be the only book that includes Gods on the scale I like in fantasy. I'm going to read Prince of Nothing but I expect I won't get any divine powers.

Angel, Faë and all that spiritual primeval elemental shit gets my dick harder than diamonds. I like stories where it's entirely gods and angels like Paradise Lost, or where they fuck with mortals and involve themselves in human affairs like Malazan.

>>20611930
I want to see a story set from the perspective of the world's gods as they watch and bicker over the destiny of a person who has great potential to alter the course of history.

>>20611804
Red Rising

I like Dying Earth, New Sun, Black Company and Elric. I also like memoirs of real life explorers, soldiers and hunters (just finished picrel). I want high adventure in strange and exotic locales, but more than just a string of sword fights. Recommend me something.

>>20611986
That would be extremely interesting. I think Malazan kinda plays with that, with God's impacting characters directly

>>20611930
Read hindu mythology. Also lovecraft

>>20608091
I'm around 30% through Dungeon Crawler Carl book 3.
Afterward, I may either continue on to book 4 or switch over and read A Thousand Li 7, as an intermission.

>>20612330
Any specific hindu myths? I'm mildly racist and the multi-limbed gods freak me out, but I like seeing the art at museums.

I like Clark Ashton Smith a good deal, he has a few poems that are as autistically obsessed with gods and cosmic stuff as I am. What should I try for Lovecraft? I know they were pretty close

>>20611560
>Though I'm still wondering how the hell Cradle can wrap up in just two books.
I felt that way about the last Traveler's Gate book but he was able to pull it off. Timeskips will be involved I'm sure. Give them one book to ascend to Monarch, then in the next book they get ahold of Shen's hunger mcguffin and force the Monarchs to ascend at gunpoint.

>>20612391
Lovecraft's dreamscape stories are better than his horror stories.

>>20611930
Dunsany. Time and the Gods. He was the first to invent his own panthenon and everybody else who's done it is a reaction to him. Have you read Ovid?

anyone read riftwar cycle
what did you think

>>20611930
>I am literally obsessed with the concepts of God's and spiritual beings. I read so much mythology just to read about Gods (i.e, Iliad, Paradise Lost, Keats Hypeion, Prometheus Unbound) and especially loved Tolkien's Valar because they were like, primeval gods that had a raiment based off of their status. Like Varda was basically made out of light and stars, similar to the Greek Titans and primordials.
>The concept fascinates me, and Malazan seems to be the only book that includes Gods on the scale I like in fantasy. I'm going to read Prince of Nothing but I expect I won't get any divine powers.
>Angel, Faë and all that spiritual primeval elemental shit gets my dick harder than diamonds. I like stories where it's entirely gods and angels like Paradise Lost, or where they fuck with mortals and involve themselves in human affairs like Malazan.
My friend, you may unironically be interested in The Wandering Inn, a story in which the main characters gets isekaied to a world where Gods are dead...and they are trying very hard to come back..

If you are interested, [Big Spoilers for the plot] there are also Fae, Angels, Devils and other races commonly associated with the divines. However, this stuff has its periodic appearances in the plot from time to time, until later volumes where it becomes truly the main plot and everything more or less resolves around Dead Gods trying to will themselves back to live. It's absolute kino. Gods in TWI truly feel divine and mysterious, not just some cliche people with superpowers like in other stories.

Even more spoilers, the story also includes a race of Ant people created by a Sleeping God deep underground, who have tried to kill the said God for the last few thousand years, sending a crusade after crusade to storm Hell itself. Absolutely metal.

>>20610657
>author trademarked "System Apocalypse" and is in the process of having other authors who use the term removed from Amazon
lol

>>20612617
Can you stop shilling this shit?
The crap you are explaining are condensed. People will have to read through a shitload of literally filler to get to it.

>Bakker autist
>Now a WI autist
No wonder theses threads are so dead now.

How's a story premise where warriors from the west tapping into powers of the western zodiac battle against warriors of the east tapping into powers of the Chinese Zodiac?

>>20612641
>The author writes doormat characters, then forced in a faggot protagonist who was hungry for alien elf dick
His System Apocalypse turned shit when the sissy MC let a bunch of people push him around and take his city that HE formed. He could one shot all of them, but ran away and cried in the forest.
Utter shit series.

>>20612666
Excuse me, I am trying to entice people to read TWI by helping them, showing why THEY would want to read it. Bekker spammer just spams horseshit and random poetry 24/7. If threads are dead it's because none of you retards read, just bitch about the same things over and over again. You want to discuss something - read a book and tell us about it.

>>20612701
NTA but it feels pretty misleading to recommend TWI for the discussed reasons. at least from where i stand, which is vol 4-5.
even if that changes later, you'd have to read quite a lot to get to those parts/themes that the anon actually asked for.

>>20612457
>>20612463
Thank you. I have Dunsany and Lovecraft on the list now.

>>20612120
2 years before the mast.
Never thought the diary of a man on a merchant marine would be so interesting. Too bad more sailors didn't do it.
I think he self censors the word "devil", lol.

>>20612717
>NTA but it feels pretty misleading to recommend TWI for the discussed reasons. at least from where i stand, which is vol 4-5.
>even if that changes later, you'd have to read quite a lot to get to those parts/themes that the anon actually asked for.
Yeah, but he said that he reads everything with divine themes. I did mentionn that it has periodic appearances in the plot until the later volumes, he was well informed whether to read or not.

>>20612463
Sorry meant to finish replying
>Have you read Ovid?
Yeah I'm told time and the gods is similar to metamorphoses. I've read most of the Greco Roman stuff, even smaller random shit like Rape of Proserpina from Claudian or the Thebiad lmao

>>20612617
This looks interesting, I might check it out thanks.


Bakker worth reading if I like malazan?

>>20612786
>Bakker worth reading if I like malazan?
There's enough similarities that it's probably worth a look at least. Personally I didn't really care for Bakker cause I felt like I've seen what TSA does done better elsewhere, but I can understand why others like it so much.

>>20612881
Done better where?

>>20612911
Herbert and Tolkien for starters. I recognized the influences but I never felt like Bakker really elevated beyond that into something more. The setting and the story both just felt... empty to me. Like yeah he inverted the story of christ and turned Moddle Earth on its head but ultimately to what end? I don't know. I don't care to get into another autistic shouting match again. If you liked Bakker I'm happy for you but I really didn't.

a billion years ago when i was a kid i got lost in a spanish wiki page talking about space colonization in a role playing game or sci book. the only thing i remember was that there was a state called united states of south africa. have you ever heard of a book or game containing that country?

>>20612938
Nah I haven't read him, I was just curious before I started him what other people thought. It seems interesting and I'll give him the unique position of levying his philosophy degree to help write.

>>20612334
How you liking DCC so far? I'd say 3 is the point where it picks up the most, because it focuses on Carl's actual character arc instead of just kinda surviving.

>>20612308
It'd have to be some sort of interpersonal drama story that, as a backdrop, has this important person's life going on as they end reigns and start their own, etc.

>>20612442
Fair enough, I suppose a lot of the big deal issues like the Mad King will be handled basically in a B-plot by Ozriel. I halfway feel this is a set-up to a sequel series, though.

>>20612701
Nah, you really are just an autistic cunt.

>>20613015
I do not like the references but it does seem somewhat toned down and I don't care for the... personality of the AI but I can get behind most everything else. I enjoy Carl. My buddy who rec'd the series and finally made me read it said that Carl is "full throttle" and I think that it is a good phrase to describe him. He's fun and doesn't give a fuck. The fights and enemies feel creative, never boring really. It has me curious to learn where things will go from here. The subtle background seeds are cool so good to know it'll pick up in this volume.

>>20608091
Started the Black Company yesterday. Feels like Cook repeats himself a lot in the book so far, but the characters are at least enjoyable and the schemes fun.
Does he at least get less repetitious as the series go on?

>>20613063
Does the cat piss you off though?
The footfag AI and the prissy cat bitch rubs me the wrong way. It's supposed to be about carl slapping shit together to survive, it turned into some fucking cat drama show.

>>20613112
YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE THE CAT ANON.

>>20613123
I am not.
Why the all caps? Does me and others not liking your fucking cat rustle your jimmies?

>>20613112
Donut's entire presence is as a reminder of Carl's empathy. She REALLY tests him, but ultimately is the one he trusts the most and who he cares for the well-being of, even moreso than his own.

cradle bros... 4 days.... im really curious about wtf eithan is going to do

Books with old-school giants? I already read Lyonesse

>>20613134
Book is shit either way. Might have been better if they dumped the cat. They could have done all of this without having that smashed in face cat open her fucking mouth and fucking up the novel progress to pander to catfag fans.

>>20613140
Not a book, but the short story Two Suns Setting by Karl Edward Wagner.

>>20613140
The Knight

>>20611002
Its pretty cringe so far

>>20605175
Hey, regarding magic/powers that deal with shit like darkness, destruction, and/or order, what are some good personality traits to associate with them that you've seen, especially ones that are at least neutral on a moral perspective? What about traits for forces associated with creation, light, and/or chaos?

>>20613193
Well, darkness/destruction/order puts in mind, effectively, a cosmic janitor. So fatalistic, set in their ways, that sort of deal. They know their duty is necessary, so shut the fuck up. The opposite, light/creation/chaos, would be more excitable about making something new. Not necessarily hyperactive, but keen to see what comes of their creations.

Anyone have any SCP-type literature recs? I wanna read about people facing off against anomalies in an actual book

>>20612641
>I'll just jump in and give the facts. The series was blocked by amazon on the 30th for a potential trademark violation lodged by Tao Wong over the name of the series itself: Systems of the Apocalypse. Which Mr. Wong asserted was too similar to his trademark: The System Apocalypse
Is he trying to be another Aleron Kong? Michael-Scott Earle? Didn't he see that it didn't end too well for those fags when fans caught wind?

>>20613112
Donut grew on me and when I first began the story I thought that her personality would be the original insufferable personality. Some of her traits are annoying but they are usually in small doses (like her preening for the camera/in public.) She's not perfect but she grew on me quickly.
>>20613123
kek

>>20613206
>cosmic janitor.
Ozriel.

>>20613265
>ProgressionFantasy/comments/vp7ork/tao_wong_author_of_a_thousand_li_the_first_step/

>>20613275
Was thinking more Galactus but fair.

>>20613025
I wouldn't mind a sequel series desu. Cradle has enough world-building potential that I'd hate to see it stop here. I imagine Will Wight probably wants to do something different before starting another 10+ book series in the same setting. I wouldn't begrudge him that.

>>20613316
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if his next series is one that delves more fully into the multiversal stuff. Probably from different perspectives that're more low-down than the Seven, but still multiversal. Or maybe he'll just go back to Traveler's Gate.

>>20613206
Okay, thanks, what are some other traits that we can give to them or the people who use them, so they're not so one-note, you know?

>>20613328
I'm not doing the work for you.

>>20613275
Of course, he's the fucking sage of brooms. How did I never put that together?

>>20613323
He could probably do both at the same time. Valin has been to at least one other iteration, why not Simon?

>>20613270
I admit I liked her as comic drama queen, but I really loved her when she started dropping those little emotional insights, like she noticed that when Carl wanted to move out he would only look at apartments that accepted cats, or when she let her face down and admitted she knew Bea was going to trade her in for a newer model. It really cements the loyalty they share, in this environment where the goal it to turn people against each other.

>>20613340
I haven't gotten to the second part yet but I do like how those little things are casually dropped/revealed.

>>20613336
The funniest thing to me about Ozriel is that his backstory as told in Reaper is basically an almost parodic cliched xianxia protagonist story.

>>20613336
I dunno how I'd feel about making an existing series go multiversal like that, but at the same time where does Traveler's Gate really go? Mostly there's just the one real thing left hanging (that old man) but that's hardly a lot to work with.

>>20613265
His system apoc books were shit, now he is mad people dropped his shit and is trying to get other people's books nuked.
He's like that retarded kid that walks up and flips over the board game because people excluded him. I hope he is ready for the beating (retaliation).

>>20613359
I really hope we get to see what caused him to turn over a new leaf. Why'd he go from antihero to cosmic humanitarian?

>>20613380
It seemed to just be a stark realisation of the crippling loneliness that comes with being at the peak of existence, but there could be more than that.

>>20613365
It doesn't have to be a huge jump. I'm thinking it would only involve 1 maybe 2 new iterations at most. I feel like you can find a happy medium between what Sanderson does with his multiverse where the only crossover may as well just be easter eggs that have no effect on anything vs what capeshit does where you need to do a bunch of wiki diving or read 40 years of continuity to understand what's even happening.

>>20612120
Planet of adventure
Hunters run
Dying of the light
Windhaven
Tuf Voyaging
Zothique
Big Planet
Emphyrio
Cadwall chronicles

>>20613399
Well, you can just use it as a jumping point to explore new worlds that aren't quite detailed enough to deserve their own series.

>>20613396
Yeah, I think you're right, I'm sure it was a more gradual realization too. But tell me you don't wanna see Eithan having what amounts to a midlife crisis.

>>20613408
Exactly, and I think Will Wight has really grown as a writer since doing Cradle. I'm excited to see what he does next.

>>20613431
True enough. You can sort of pinpoint the moment he properly hit his stride with Ghostwater. Every book before that was a lot more hit-or-miss, everything after that was a lot smoother.

>>20613487
not him but kek I think Ghostwater was his peak. Underlord was fun and then it was downhill stagnation from then on.

>>20613487
He's also possibly the only fantasy writer I can think of who I genuinely love reading his action scenes. They play out in my mind as good or better than a comic or animation.

>>20613523
Ghostwater and Wintersteel are tied for his best for me. Bloodline kinda dragged in a couple parts but finished strong. Everything else has been bare minimum enjoyable reading.

Oh except Skysworn, fuck Skysworn.

>>20613539
>Skysworn is a book where the protagonists do literally nothing after the opening dueland everything's resolved in the background
It really is just a fucking filler arc.
Also, agreed on his action scenes. Whether they're ridiculously over-the-top like Cradle or TG, or more down-and-dirty like Elder Empire, they always have very clear focus on specific moments and motions.

>>20613554
>even in fantasy books we can't escape filler arcs
I'm so tired bros.

The sheer arrogance of women making stories about alien beings and old gods about gender issues is astounding.
Some of these stories are written in far too modern and brisk, for want of a better term, a manner for the subject at hand. Although, I'm not sure aping the writing of the 1700s in one of the stories is the right answer to that (even though it is the most kino one I've read so far).

>>20613595
I don't understand how someone straight could want to read about fags and turning your dick inside out and "That makes a man just like me, a woman!"
>These gods and aliens have a vested interest in my genitals, which I've made a personality!

>>20613554
I wish Calder had been the protagonist of his own story

>>20613645
Same, I've already forgotten basically all of EE:Shadow. I can't imagine other people found Shera or whatever her name was very compelling. I appreciate Wight trying to get out of his comfort zone with the whole edgy assassin character thing but it just didn't work. The plucky band of pirate buddies was so much more engaging and fun and just all around better.

>>20613140
The Tempest by William Shakespeare. Caliban.

>>20613645
I'm still slightly pissed at the ending of Elder Empire.
Shera gets to become one of the new four big deal fuckers and goes to sleep. Calder becomes braindead for ages until his monster-bird wakes him up, and then we have no idea what he's up to afterwards. Felt like it could've done a bit more for him.

>>20613662
>>20613665
I didn't even read the third Shera book

>>20613662
>>20613673
I didn't dislike Shera, she just had a less compelling thing going on. Shera herself was a fine enough character, but her allies were less interesting except for the razor-nail ghost chick who feels like a character Wight got a little horny for. Shera honestly should've been even more lone-wolf to contrast with Calder, because Calder isn't a great character by himself, but his different approach to relationships with different people sell him as a character compared to Shera who does the exact same thing to everybody she has relationships with.

Any good books where the protagonists are a mother and son? Despite my pic I'm not looking for smut.

>>20613665
>>20613673
>>20613684

I feel like it was implied, or at least I'm inhaling copium with the headcanon that Calder was going to become the next Emperor.

I think it would be hilarious to have the 4 wake up like 300 years later and start seething when they find out Calder not only survived but re-established the empire.

>>20613695
Dune

>>20613700
Calder is going to become a traveller and Voroshir

>>20613700
Didn't they outright say the whole idea of the Emperor was abolished, they were splitting up into sovereign states?

>>20613720
Yeah, both cause the Emperor is irreplaceable and for the more philosophical reason that mankind needs to learn to rule itself. But when Calder talks to the impression ghost of the Emperor, he mentions that Calder's intent is almost identical to the Emperor's when he was young.

>>20608314
If I can count Malazan The Book of the Fallen as one large book, then it's easily in my top five. Otherwise, my top five books are going to be from Malazan. So, this is about as good as I can do:
Malazan Book of the Fallen
The Way of Kings
Words of Radiance
Ender's Game
LotR

>>20613716
I ho[e we get to learn more about how Fate/The Way actually works and what exactly the Abidan and Voroshir disagree on. I mean if Eithan sides with the Abidan then I'm gonna say they're probably in the right but still, what exactly are they fighting for?

>luv me Wolfe
>luv me Herbert
>luv me Tolkien
>also luv shameless self insert powerfantasy webnovels
Is this just me or am I not like the other girls?

>>20613665
Wait, Shera became an Elder? kek how even?

>>20613788
Not an Elder. I forget the names they were given, but those four people who were second to the Emperor. One of them died, so Shera replaced them.

What’s a good fantasy for someone who likes Asoiaf? I tried WOT and some of Brandon Sanderson but I could not get into it.

>>20613824
The Black Company
Malazan
The Witcher series

>>20613684
>Wight got a little horny for
I have a hard time imagining Wight getting horny. He seems like such a wholesome guy. Which is ironic because of how badly I want Akura Charity to spit in my mouth.

>>20613824
Second Apocalypse

>>20613695
dune is a book about doing drugs with your mom

Why does reading make me so sleepy, bros?

>>20613973
Because you're going by words you don't understand.
Look through the text to find what the boundary between you remember and what you don't.
You'll find a word you don't understand there.
Time to hit the dictionary.

>>20613973
Because you are an inattentive brainlet

>>20613983
>>20613986
f-fuck you

>>20613953
She tried EVERYTHING to wake him up.

>>20613882
>Akura Charity

god what a stupid weabooshit name

>>20614016
Anime website
Dial 8

>>20614016
>Whole clan is powered by DARKNESS
>Akura Mercy
>Akura Malice
>Akura Justice
>Akura Fury
The weeb level is off the charts it's hilarious

>>20614038
>every Akura is named for a virtue
>Malice, Pride, and Fury are virtues
I love Cradle so much bros. It knows what it is and isn't ashamed of it.

>The Black Company
what's good about it

>>20613992
Why are you so offended by a suggestion to use a dictionary?

>>20614064
It was the first series to do Tolkien but grimdark.
It's probably the best version of Tolkien but grimdark.

>>20614064
First book is Afghan war but the Taliban is on the side of God and big oil is the Devil

>>20614080
so the Afghan war

>>20614072
I like it but it goes downhill immediately after the first book.

Do you guys ever think about how weird Outer Space is as a concept. An infinite void that's infinitely expanding in which all of creation is suspended inside of. A vast ocean of the unknown and unseen. Multiply the total lifetime of the universe by 10000 and you still would not have enough time to explore 1 10000000th of the observable universe.

It's terrifying if you really think about it.

>>20614107
“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.” - H.P. Lovecraft

>>20614107
Not really. It's like being in a room you cannot see the walls, floor or ceiling of. The room exceeds you but it feels exactly like the inside of your own mind as it churns upon itself unmovingly. You shouldn't be afraid of your mind.

>>20614107
Play Mine Defense.
You won't think it's so big then as you'll encounter numbers far larger than the estimated number of stars.
Makes it feel rather finite and like we might be the only ones.

>>20607065
the audiobook helps a ton with this

/lit/s opinion?

>>20614132
>You shouldn't be afraid of your mind.
you ain't been there.

>>20614369
Meme book.

>>20614369
I want to read it. It's in the backlog.

>>20614401
Why? How?

>>20614417
Why don't you read it, instead of letting others do it for you, dipshit.

>>20614419
I have read it. That's why I'm asking.

>>20614419
>"heres my opinion"
>"can you elaborate on that opinion?"
>"FUCK YOU DIPSHIT"
everything alright my guy?

>>20614369
Overrated. Heard it qas really scary. It was only a little bit scary.

>>20614371
Haven't I? Just closed my eyes for a bit and saw people in agony from walls to walls.

>>20613595
As much as I dislike Le Guin's genderqueer hectoring in the hainish cycle at least it's her own story she puts it in. At least she doesn't say I'll just overwrite whatever you all thought you were talking about mister man. So tiresome.

>>20614515
that's not agony they're in. wink wink.

>>20608314
Malazan
Black company
Dread empire

>>20608314
Dying Earth
LotR
Gormenghast
Second Apocalypse
Lyonesse

When you anons refer to Malazan do you guys include esselmounts books as well as Erikson's?

Personally I do. Some of esselmounts were my favorite. I think I got lucky by following a chronological recommend reading order when I read through them, the world was so much bigger and everything just fit.

The only things I didn't read until after the main series were the 3 prequel books and forge of darkness/fall of light

>>20614369
Fun alien thing.
I loved it.

New thread >>20614607
...for use in the future! (whooshing sound)

>>20614609
We make new threads at page 10.

Looks like this is it, /sffg/ is going to be shit from now on and be unusable, much like the rest of /lit/.

>>20605905
I like when they are named, but remain in the background. Or they exist, but are very hard to have any real interaction with.

>>20605350
>soulless
Anything that came out pre-2015 is pure, distilled SOVL whether you like it or not.

>>20614717
>pure, distilled SOVL whether you like it or not.
You can really tell that Lucas put a lot of soul into it whenever you see his interviews about Star Wars. He was an artist, a flawed one, but an artist nonetheless and I can respect him for it.

Someone should really make a different thread, the new thread is just pure bait and made by a shitposter.

>>20614734
Just like Ed Wood.

>>20614734
Take this for example:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UcsmfsYgohU
The level of detail put into things that almost no one will ever notice, just for the sake of the lore in this universe he's created, shows how much of his heart and soul he poured into even the prequels which are so often accused of being half-assed.

Real thread
>>20614797

>>20614800
Not petty or infantile at all

>>20614786
I love the prequel trilogy; I truly think its George Lucas at his best. He was trying to tell his story and I can respect him for it. Dude went all out. Did he stumble? Yes. But who hasn't? He shouldn't have been crucified for it. Watching behind the scenes on the prequel trilogy really puts a different spin to it.

>>20614897
It's just clunky dialog and some scenes could have used a few retakes. From what I've heard, he didn't even want to direct them, but all of his director friends were either too busy, or didn't want to touch it because it was too big of a project.

Honestly, if you love the prequels, you should try reading the novelizations if you haven't. They really flesh out the story and show the true potential the prequel trilogy had if only they were executed just a little better.

>>20614909
>Honestly, if you love the prequels, you should try reading the novelizations if you haven't.
I only read the Revenge of the Sith novelization and it was fucking Kino, I never got around to reading Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones novels.

>>20608647
Good taste anon

>>20614800
let this be the one, the image is better