/lit/ - Literature

>>20611216
That ball is too big to fit through those little slots, you’ll be stuck on the pain side

>>20611216
boredom is just a different form of pain
it's just pain and being high on drugs, think about it, all your happiness is the product of a chemical rush that nature uses to cheat you into not killing yourself

>>20611222
lol

>>20611216
Yes. Fall in love. Have sex. Meet people. Find hobbies and passions. Don't be a sad incel look Scrotumhauer.

>>20611216
Schopenhauer refuted it himself. Through pure contemplation, you can escape this circle.

>>20611353
I like to think he would have liked this meme
>>20611216
Just stop swinging

>>20611216
If you have whatever chemical imbalance he had, it's probably spot on

>>20611216
yeah, nietzsche refutes it

>>20611216
Genetic engineering and advanced neuroscience may eventually make it possible to end suffering entirely. Suffering is ultimately the result of chemical reactions in your brain, so there's no reason why it couldn't be possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx3rdVQZ3mo

>>20611932
Some years ago I would've considered this an intriguing proposition. Now I can only see it as just one more step of humankind making itself slaves.

>>20611932
There's a rare genetic disease which completely ends physical pain in your body. People who have it rarely make it to 20

>>20611932
Suffering is a much grander concept than just "feels bad".
Even gods or higher beings suffer, they are just less aware of it.
Study the teachings of the Buddha.

>>20611932
>As humans conceived transhumanism, transhumanists have conceived posthumanism, a far-off condition in which none will live as we have all these years but will have evolved into something beyond our present selves. And then what? Have the transhumanists really thought this through? And how could they? We have no idea where our next thought is coming from, not excluding the thoughts of transhumanists. We do have thoughts, but we do not know what we are going to make of them. How, then, are we to know what to make of ourselves? Maybe we could outdo posthumanity, or at least do something that would not take as long and would be no less useless. But it is not as if being posthuman is an idea first conceived in the late twentieth century. In its search for the “good,” or at least the better, it recapitulates our most ancient fantasies. Like a song we feel we have heard even though we are hearing it for the first time, the machinations of transhumanists call to us from the past, and even from a pre-historical Eden of perfect existence, depending on whether or not one likes their song or cares for a homecoming in Eden. But these machinations also sound like something that was over the moment it began—old, stale, nothing.

>Transhumanism encapsulates a long-lived error among the headliners of science: In a world without a destination, we cannot even break ground on our Tower of Babel, and no amount of rush and hurry on our part will change that. That we are going nowhere is not a curable condition; that we must go nowhere at the fastest possible velocity just might be curable, though probably not. And what difference would it make to retard our progress to nowhere?

>>20612041
David Pearce has taken this into account. His idea is to create an alternative signaling system that provides all of the same benefits as pain, but without the pain. His proposed system is what he calls "gradients of bliss". Your entire existence could be varying degrees of euphoria, with less euphoria when you injure yourself or something and more euphoria if you do something good. Transhumanism could also potentially allow for the body to become more resistant to injury.

https://www.gradients.com/
https://www.hedweb.com/object33.htm

>>20611932
Sounds like the gateway to total slavery, inhumanism and horror. I don't want it.

>>20612224
I have learned to never underestimate pure unadulterated autism

>>20611216
Yes. It's refuted by the same natural force that makes people stop being cringy highschool losers.

>>20611216
yes

>>20611216
I used to think like that. Then I learned that you can just do puzzles or something.

>>20611912
nietzsche merely presents an alternative
there is no "refuting" at this level of philosophy

>>20611216
Sometimes I have fun with my friends

>>20611216
what 0 pussy does to a mf
god in his infinite wisdom gave you women so you don't end up as cringy doomer loser
talk to women and have sex, it fixes your 0 pussy life

>>20611216
People who have sex and have friends and are not poor are never depressed and they want to live forever. I am an incel and poor and working 10 hours a day, life is not worth living

>>20612569
Shut up it's not as easy as talk to women. Even if it would be, then it's over for me from the start, because women won't even talk to me.

>>20611932
Sounds like the gateway to total slavery, inhumanism and horror. I dig it.

>>20611216
pain is not pain

>>20611216
>Is this refutable
Forest anon refutes the Schopcel. Touch grass and have sex.

>>20611932
Hm... That's how you get forced mass castrations, forced breeding programs, euthanasia and lobotomies. The lobotomies aren't actually conducive to influencing a genetic landscape, but they're for flavor.

>>20612855
There is unironically nothing wrong with forced mass castrations or euthanasia

>>20611216
I sometimes feel joy and pleasure that's neither boredom or pain

>>20612853
grab life by the tits and stick your tongue down its throat

>>20611353
<3

>>20611216


Not if the state of boredom is your default; to pointless pain is apposed worthless wellness.

The optimal default is freedom: baseline thriving – failsafe reviving.

>>20611932
>No academic background
>Cited nowhere on the SEP
Hmmm yeah smells like trouble.

>>20612569
schopenhauer had sex semi-regularly

>>20613806
>muh academic background

>>20611222
Kek based

>>20611932
I'd gladly give up muh freedoms to have a better day to day, but this will only be practically available when we're long gone

>>20611932
Based and Pearcepilled..

>>20613958
>but this will only be practically available when we're long gone
Unless you sign up for cryonics and are successfully reanimated.

https://www.cryonicscalculator.com/
https://www.overcomingbias.com/2021/12/we-dont-have-to-die.html

>>20611216
>Realise the pendulum isn't real
>Let go of boredom and pain
>Be one with the universe

Yes, it is, anon.

>>20611216
After getting into buddhism, I realised having all these mental blocks and boxes of thinking is literally hell and feels as trapping as being buried alive. Just stop making so many associations in your head and grow a pair, like bruce lee said, the mind is supposed to be like water, and the thoughts shaping it you need to think them on purpose, thinking only happy thoughts.

Books on how to cope with being an incel/dying a virgin?

>>20611932
But if the world remove suffering, wouldn't that kill or limit the complexity of art in the process.

>>20611932
if you see no problem with this you, are, spiritually, an automaton. you literally have no soul.

>>20615931
if you can delude yourself into thinking you can argue against that through analyzing the importance of myth and struggle from a meta-level where you know the mental correlates are pointless in light of chemical cures such as ssri but still say: i can do it just because "instinct", with "instinct" becoming your new obsession, while the achievements have been deprived of their potentiality due to availability of chemical means, you're deluded.

>>20611216
To refute it one has to simply claim that he doesn't feel pain or boredom predominantly. Simple as.

>>20611932
Transhumanism is peak Satanic delusion

>>20611932
>>Genetic engineering and advanced neuroscience may eventually make it possible to end suffering entirely. Suffering is ultimately the result of chemical reactions in your brain, so there's no reason why it couldn't be possible.
impossible since suffering is based on cravings

>>20611222
>>20611263
>>20613945
Place is turning into fucking reddit