/lit/ - Literature

why do the threads keep getting deleted bros

Old thread just got nuked, huh?

>>20598405
mods are dumbass newfags who are incompetent at their jobs

>>20598452
in other news, water is wet

I didn't want to be right, but the tactics have evolved to have the thread be deleted. I wouldn't be surprised if the threads become regularly deleted from now on.
As I posted 2 hours ago
>>20597690
>This conversation is going to end with the thread being deleted. Just as they planned.

>>20598390
any fantasy books about simping for amoral powerful witches who are too lazy to do things by themselves so the main character does all the grunt work for her?

>>20598477
Sounds like the plot of The Unwanted Undead Adventurer

What's your favorite loli from a recent read?

This is probably the new strategy:
When a report threshold is reached, the thread is deleted. Make terrible posts. Drag others into it. Report their own posts with a different IP address. Others are reporting the posts as well. This makes reaching the threshold a relatively easy matter. Thus, a bind is created. If no reports, the spammers run rampant and the threads are unusable. If reports, the the thread is deleted.

>>20598452
I think they deserve to be paid twice as much.

What books have the best Waifu main characters

First for Wolfe

>>20597993
Yes, I've read and enjoyed Warbreaker. Not enough that I'm super excited to reread it. It is nice how it ties in to the Stormlight books though. I do intend to read The Emperor's Soul at some point mostly because I already have a collection of his stories that already includes it.

>>20598390
You didn't update the previous thread link.

>>20598635
0x2 is still 0

>>20598670
Yes I did

>>20598672
It goes to Castle Ruins rather than the first Remember Reach.

>>20598681
No it doesn't, what the fuck?

>>20598663
Ah, yeah, that collection. I'll generally say Emperor's Soul was the only one that stood out in that collection to me, but give them all a read at some point. I think Sanderson's at his best when he's NOT trying to tie everything into everything else. A multiverse is one thing, making every story have to be PART of the multiverse's grand story is another.

>>20598390
Actual previous thread >>20594647

>>20598670
>>20598681
>>20598714
Holy shit, no one gives two shits, you autistic piece of shit, either discuss books or fuck off.

>>20598477
Black Company unironically.

>>20598708
Not that anon
I disagree. I think his non-Cosmere works are worse, especially the standalones.

>>20598752
So maybe his best stuff is standalone Cosmere stuff? Or maybe Emperor's Soul just works because it's short and Brandon had to cram his usual pacing down into that word count. It also has a few other restrictions (largely taking place in one room, only a few characters, etc.) so he probably needs those to really do anything good.

Please cease all Sanderson discussion right now. Thank you.

>>20598721
I give three shits, actually.
You don't speak for me.

>>20598769
>People are DISCUSSING BOOKS in the BOOK DISCUSSION thread? Blasphemy, says I!

>>20598780
kek

>>20598780
>>20598794
The Senate

>>20598799
Witnessing doubles, now discuss literature.
What's the next cool space opera series? I'm done with the expanse.

>>20598794
ah, yes
classic femcoomer lit

>>20598845

i can't believe it was archived

>>20598857
I can't believe it's not butter!

>>20598855
>55
Somebody tweet her this, I don't have an account there.

>>20598780
>Be woman
>Hate the idea behind Handmaiden's Tale
>Still love to cosplay as them because they think it's easy and that it "means something"

>>20598865

lets be honest, we're completely out of books to talk about in these threads. no one actually comes to them to discuss literature anymore, euthanizing the general would be a blessing

>>20598804
Sun Eater series was kinda meh, but it's basically Dune with the Drukhari from 40k as the antagonist. Cool premise but hundreds of pages of filler.

>>20598868
>women
>logic
Pick one.

>>20598792
As a passionate member of /sffg/ and a poster committed to thread quality, it is my obligation to discourage discussion of shitty books and/or authors.

>>20598671
Then triple it?

>>20598869
It's not fair that it gets to spread so much better but it's so much worse for you.
The food lobbyists really did a fucking number on America.
>>20598871
I'm starting off pretty fresh so you've got a few years of shitposts from me to sustain this thread.
And believe me, I visit a lot of /gsg/ threads. This thread is N O T fucking dead.
There is actual dogshit cancer that is still being made on /vg/.

Since no one here is actually discussing sci-fi, I'll start.
Who here is a fan of my main man Philip K. Dick?
"Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep" set the whole cyberpunk genre in motion.
"Ubik" is schizoid enough to make Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance look rational.
"The Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch" is terrifying enough to give H.P. Lovecraft a run for his money.
I could go on.

>>20598886
I didn't say we were out of shitposts. I said we were out of books. You aren't here to talk about lit, neither am I, the general could be banned from the board without any lessening of board quality

>>20598875
>Cool premise but hundreds of pages of filler.
Too bad, filler had been cancer at sf and fantasy. I'm not lazy when reading, but filler is usually not fun, makes me wish publishers would do abridged editions of their series if the premise is cool.

>>20598882
Censorious fascist.

>>20598887
PKD is top notch, he was the real thing.

>>20598887
I'm afraid to get into cyberpunk because I don't want to read about people walking in streets, diving through dumpsters, which is the impression I get from every single one.
>Hey look at all this future shit!
>Too bad, we're following this naked street urchin to the basements of all of those neat buildings with the flying things and electric sex.
>>20598891
You could try making /ssffg/ Spoiler sci-fi fantasy general. Just so everyone knows if you go in that thread, you better have read most of what's in the infographs.

>>20598886
Which is why I just use butter.
Margarine never worked properly for cooking anyway.

ObSciFi: "Stranger In A Strange Land" is less a sci-fi book and more a religious text. I was genuinely a different person by the time I finished reading it.

>>20598887
PDK has tons of great ideas, but is mostly trash in execution with a few notable exceptions. That's what happens when you're constantly crapping out content to make a slight amount of money and your attempts at literary fiction utterly fail commercially. He had a ton of other problems as well.

>>20598902
Well, cyberpunk IS sort of naturally a dystopian genre.
If you want one that isn't so depressing, start with "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson.
He doesn't know how to write an ending, but otherwise, I like his stuff.

Vance
Bakker
Peake
The holy trinity.

>>20598903
Archangel Michael gonna protect us all from the mars gods right?
You grock'n what I'm rock'n? Aint nobody gonna discorporate this boiee.

>>20598906
Cyberpunk's real problem is that most people don't really want it as a genre, they just like the aesthetic. Which is fair, I certainly think the genre is dated at this point even though its settings are still fun. It's just hard to get worked up about the new unknowns that concerned nerds thirty years ago.

>>20598906
>He doesn't know how to write an ending
Good god he get's so pissy if someone brings this up in a Q&A. he think's his jarringly abrupt endings are just great, and if you cant appreciate them then something must be wrong with you dear reader.

>>20598904
And just as he was finally selling the movie rights to one of his books...he stroked out.
What an anti-climax.

I'm gonna ask it here and now.
How do you read more?
I've been awake for 10 hours and I've gone on 4chan, ate supper (breakfast) hung out with my friends and ate supper (real), came home, jerked off, went on 4chan and I also watched some youtube in there. There are people with full time jobs that make time for exercise and all the important life shit and they read more than me. I have no excuse. I haven't had a job in 3 years.
My brain keeps telling me I want to read it all so I know what's the best of sci-fi (at least for my taste) so I can talk about it here, make obnoxious shitposts, and obviously enjoy the reading part. I read 100 pages of Hyperion yesterday and enjoyed all of it and thought "I had fun doing that." But here I am, putting it off.

I'd like to be a participating member of all this. I have 250 books downloaded. About half of those are sci-fi and some fantasy, the rest are classics and whatever else. I've got all the hot hits at my finger tips like Wizard Knight, Neuromancer, New Sun, Tolkien, Black Company, and I've already read Blindsight, Dune, 3 Body Problem, Ender's game and most of it's sequels as a teen.
What's wrong with me? Why can't I just sit down and pump them out? It's a much better use of my time.

>>20598948
>How do you read more?
By reading and not wasting time here, like what you're doing now.

>>20598923
Really? That's kind of hilarious.
I remember being really irritated with how "The Diamond Age" ended, and discovering someone had written a pretty decent fanfic ending.
I felt complete then.

>>20598916
This was the case until Cyberpunk 2077 reinvented the genre and made it great again, with the complex character known as Johnny Silverhand it made the genre the best in the sci-fi sector, This game has a story that rivals all literature, it is truly a masterpiece.

>>20598948
How do you go 3 years without a job?
inb4 permissive parents: Why do they put up with your lazy ass?

>>20598948
Answer is simple - read consistently. Even if it's only 30 minutes. Make it something you do every day.

>>20598962
They didn't put up with it after a while, I got a job, advanced at that job but the lowest on the management totem pole got axed because quality control was the first thing to go for every company when Covid hit.
I fucking hate car parts. I've made enough parts that my individual contribution means that over a million cars were completed with the parts I've made. And then for a year I was technically responsible for the entire shift's parts.
You would swear to God when you're making them that there's no way that even 50,000 people need a car... So many center consoles (that area you throw your change in).
So now they think I'll get another job some time.
I do feel bad if it makes you feel better, but I'm a coward, so there's that.

>>20598960
>>>/vg/ is that way
Did the developers ever debug that POS?

>>20598975
Based on my experience in my career, I knew low-level managers were the dregs of humanity.
Thanks for confirming it.
I will now imagine my former director in a threadbare terrycloth robe and bunny slippers, out in front of his house, trying to manage the paperboy.

>>20598976
>debug that gem?
It is now a polished gem of a masterpiece, the story moves you into tears and the gameplay is god tier.

>>20598960
did u see that cyberpunk cat game that's coming out?

>>20598984
I did try. I liked the engineers, they're really helpful. And I became quality because I really wanted to help all of my friends there. It's why I cut in line in front of everybody that had seniority over me, because I wanted to help. But I made the mistake of thinking a company would care and also I've never negotiated before so my salary was shit, I was making 1.50 more than my support operator position but had way more responsibility and the first shift girl who had my position turned out to be a cunt so I resented the job after a few months.
So imagine the useless fucks on the floor who don't ever apply to drive forklift or ever even apply for management. I fucking hate that I have to defend unions because I hate so many of those busybody assholes.
At least in that time I've quit drinking and I've resolved to invest every red cent since I live at home and don't date as opposed to wasting all of it like i did.

>>20598948
Just pick up a book and read it, you dumb brainlet.

>>20598986
Again, >>>/vg/ is that way.

>>20598390
What do most sci-fi writers get wrong about quantum mechanic bullshit, and how can we avoid these pitfalls?

>>20599010
>I did try. I liked the engineers
OK, I won't hate you as much anymore.
But get a job and stop living with your parents. Have some self respect.
And now, I must crash...day job and all that.

Is honor harrington the Mary Sue of Mary sues?

>>20599024
If you don't have any idea whether it's right or wrong, does it really matter?

How is the star carrier series?

>>20596609
So I just finished The Forever War. I was not expecting the last 20 pages. Still processing it.

>>20599024
It's useless thinking what we understand about quantum bullshit is right.
All this Dr. Michio Kaku bullshit science is based off of some smears of very large individual pixels on a 1970's computer screen. Like the weight of the damn Sun. We hardly have a real cock sucking picture that isn't an artist's rendition of the damn thing and it's right there, every fucking day.

>>20599015
Cyberpunk story is still literature, it is in fact better than half of the literature posted in /sffg/, Cyberpunk truly rules, those who hate it are fools.

>>20599088
You're not a funny troll and collecting responses like mine mean nothing and aren't funny either.
Unironically shitpost in a board that deserves it, one filled with more bots. I'd rather interact with you there.

>>20599074
Now read Old Man's War so you get them mixed up forever when you talk about them.

>>20598390
What are you reading and what are you planning to read?

>>20599098
Is it good?

>>20599123
kino

>>20599137
Yes.
But, my man. You just read a whole book in 8 hours. You'll know whether you like it or not soon enough.

>>20599123
I feel like I knew what this image was at some point. Isn't this stylized fanart of some game?

>>20599123
I just finished Lost Fleet and I'm waiting for Campbell's next book before I tear into the third series. Fucking trying to read through the honorverse but godamn does Weber make everyone blindly worship her. She can be a pretty insufferably mary sue but the battle scenes and scheming is nice. On book 2 but I'm not sure how far I'll get. Can anyone recommend good military scifi?

>>20599159
I was thinking of actually finishing the Bible instead. And then reading the Elric of Melnibone stories. Or finishing the Chronicles of Amber that my dad keeps on his shelf.

>>20599093
I post in the name of sci-fi, I respect good stories like Cyberpunk 2077, its literally the only good Cyberpunk story and those who are cultured know.

>>20599137
>>20599161
Thanks anons, it’s by Takato Yamamoto for the cover of Christ’s Samurai by Jonathan Clemens. It’s a book about a Christian rebellion in Japan. I got it after I saw another anon post the pic on here.
>>20598948
It sounds cliche, but reading really is something you just got to force yourself to do. Once you get started you’ll find it quickly becomes a habit, you just gotta start. Try and find a time to set aside specifically for reading. Also, try and find some work if you can my man. YGMI

>>20599171
Well, it's still good. So maybe check out the leaflet and see if you want to or not.

>>20599184
TY anon.
I've asked that before. I'm always hoping for some insight or secret but you're right, all of you are right. You just do it. The same way you just get a glass of water, you just do, there's no secret.

>>20598390
Are the halo books any good?
I have run out of fantasy things to read

>>20598916
>I certainly think the genre is dated at this point
how so?

>>20599241
99 out of a hundred science-fiction books are awful. I've read 3 Halo books and they were all shitty. Stick with fantasy, like a normal person.

>>20599025
kill yourself normoid scum

>>20598804
I really want to post a pic of Sheev getting a SUCC from a female guard, but I don't want to get banned.
It's on one of the rule 34 sites.

>>20597950
tell me more

Any and all first contact stories please, bonus points for ones not listed in the mega.
I like weird things happening and humans needing to adapt weird new things to overcome.

I NEED ESCAPIST LITERATURE

Bought 2 copies of the Hobbit today
Now I have 6 copies
I need a hardback edition of the original text and a hardback edition of the modern text but after that I will still buy more copies of the Hobbit

>>20599677
Do you have the annotated edition yet?

>>20599674
Fantasy books

>>20599683
No I don't see why I'd want an annotated edition of the Hobbit
I just buy all of these books because they cost $1 and I don't see why I shouldn't buy them
I like Tolkien a lot

>>20599684
Not all fantasy books are good at escapism. The author has to build a big, believable world which you yearn for through your elated, elevated existence to experience such a wonderful world wholly as its own unreal reality realized with real eyes.

>>20599685
Hoarding is bad, anon.
Do what Marie Kondo says, tell the object, "Thank you." kiss it, and toss it.

>>20599699
Hoarding is good, more objects = more good

>>20599699
No, I like hoarding
I have 450 books that I bought for cheap and they make me happy
Books make me very happy

>>20598948

I had the same problem. "Kinda sorta want to read" but just didn't. It went like that for years. My best year was when i read all three Metro books,two years ago. But around that, nothing. Years of not reading anything. While at the same time my backlog just kept getting bigger...

Then i just came to the point when i decided to go and get myself something to read, anything, so i started with a small book that had a collection of Conan short-stories. That one small book, took me a while, but when i was finished i decided i was ready to just stop dicking around. (Even though the Conan books where something that was on my backlist.)

I read through 2 Dragonlance (Chronicles) books in a month, King Beyond The Gate in a week. And now i'm starting Gates Of Fire, by Steven Pressfield. These where all borrowed from my local library. When i'm through Gates of Fire, next up is Azincourt, 2 Warhammer books and/or another book with Robert E. Howard short-stories. They in in nice pile, waiting for me to pick them up. I plan on going through these in the next two months at my own pace.

Now as far as how *you* personally will do it all i can't really say. What helped me personally was making a conscious decision to watch less YouTube and read less about pointless horseshit online. (News) That in itself freed a good amount of time and energy for me. Right now i have about 1 to 2 hours of good reading time a day and i almost never skip it.

Now, i never leave my apartment without one book with me.

Finally, i feel accomplished. Less guilty of wasting my time. And reading also feels really good in itself. It's a special feeling when you are reading a good book, while at the same time being aware that most of the everyday "normal" tv watching joes will probably never experience this story. I feel like i'm taking part in some kind of secret society. :D

Oh and i'm jobless too atm too, multiple years.

Oh, and i'd also like to add that maybe start with something easier to read, and move to some of the bigger books later. Open the books you have and look at what the text looks like. I don't think it's a good idea to start with Lord Of The Rings or something, unless you are really going to finish it. You don't want to get burned up and bored because of something that your mind is not quite ready yet. (Since you have in a way trained your mind for quick-fixes of instant gratification with YouTube and the modern way of life)

Now Tolkien is on my list too and Dune but i'm working my strength up with smaller, easier books before them. Read smart. Start easy.

T: >>20599836

>>20598390
Anyone excited for the upcoming Dune book?

>>20599868
>Brian Herbert
>Kevin J Anderson
no

>>20599868
>Brian Herbert
>Kevin J Anderson
yes

tfw grew up reading kja star wars eu but not young jedi
why is he so hated? i know it's got something to do with dune

This shit reminds me so much of The Warded Man by Peter V. Brett. I'm only about 15% of the way in but the dynamic between Chao, Huifen and Chao's father rings so close to Rojer, Leesha and Arlen. Not only that, but I would bet any amount of money that the female lead is going to get raped due to the sheer amount of mentions of 'virgin yin' and her 'divine body'.

Anyone else in thread read this title before? I'm tempted to sub this title out before this 16 year old is molested.

>>20599836
>>20599846

I hear your advice, friend. I know and understand the pointless horseshit (news) part all to well as I frequent /pol/ just so I can get mad and enjoy my anger. But I also know that nothing will come of it. I already learned what I need to learn and I'm not going to *politically motivated violence* unless the government does some heinous shit, and well, let's just leave it on /pol/.
I'll also check out the books you listed. Perhaps some of my problem is I happen to keep tackling something that interests me the most but it's very long. The classics, for example. I read the Count of Monte Cristo at 600 pages and found out that was an abridged version. It was my favorite book so of course I need to read the Robin Buss translation now.
Dune wasn't as long but it's still one of the bigger sci-fi ones. Hyperion has a similar page count. I'm 20% of the way through and my kindle says I have 19 hours and 30 minutes left.
After that I'm going to do some of the smaller ones. Freeze Frame Revolution seems interesting at 194 pages. So even though I'm swept up in the mystery of this greatest book ever written in 'Book of the New Sun', I suppose I'll wait until I get some other books under my belt.

I've decided that I will use nights as my time to read since no one else is up I need complete silence or nature sounds only to read (I read by the lake last week on vacation) and I stay up until morning anyway.

bout to read my first Delany boys, what should I expect?

>>20598904
>your attempts at literary fiction utterly fail commercially
He had a few years near the end where he saw the beginnings of his success and got to live well. Not very long mind you but it did occur.

>>20599836
Nobody ever reads beyond the Dragonlance first trilogy or War of the Twins lol

>>20599970
What, do you want spoilers? I am one of almost-three people now who has read this book. It isn't anywhere close to as 'grim' as Warded Man.

Read the Bolos series.
It's exactly what it looks like. Big, thinking tanks.

>>20599999
Sounds good, mate. But yeah, in a way this problem is a really existential one. Hard to get shit done if your routines are against it. I've also played less videogames during these few months. I plan on getting back to them at some point but even then it's gonna be with some sort of planning so i don't just fall into *that* trap again. Like having one night in a week with two to three hours of play time in it or something. But just focusing on reading now. Later planning on starting to exercise again too.

>>20600032
That answers one of my questions. No spoilers, but tell me if it stops being so... stiff? The only one who has natural dialogue so far is Zan. Seems like they're steering towards a sect, so I'm hoping things open up.

>>20600027
I did read the one with the Wild Elf's, the story after with Chaos, the timetraveling twins Trilogy and the Dhamon Saga too. But that was when i was a kid. Mainly reading it through now because of nostalgy. And seeing how it fares against the other stuff that's higher on my to-read-list. It has been... pretty ok. But now that's done and i'm reading other stuff. Moving forward with historical novels.

>>20600049
Things open up a bit later on once the training begins in earnest, if that answers your question at all. I do think the dialogue becomes less 'stiff' but it has been months and months since I've read it.
Big spoilers: Huifen does get raped but she eventually becomes un-raped through recovery of her virgin yin and Chao nothing personnels the dude who did it. There is an entire plotline involving Chao being 'ruthless' enough to ascend to the apex of cultivation with Huifen and this event seals the deal
>>20600051
Fair enough.
>the Dhamon saga
I think I accidentally that one too because I didn't double check to check and see if it was written by the main two authors but it was listed as part of the mainline story (all the trilogies one after another.) Anyway, it was MUCH different than the rest of Dragonlance.

Did I miss something
I just finished the book, but it doesn't seem like it ended. I can't find people talking about it online.

I happened to google doors of stone because I'm not hateful enough and turns out rumors say it's coming out in july. Perchance I should not start a new book for now until it becomes clear.

>>20600170
Have you tried reading GOOD series by an author who's not a pathetic windbag?

This is on a recommended list for Sci fi books. It doesn't sound very Sci fi.

>>20600221

>>20600221
Sounds pretty af

>>20600221
Sounds petty af

>>20600221
HP is rolling in his grave laughing rn

>>20600188
I read Heinlin, Philip K Dick, Hyperion, Spin, Takeshi kovacs, farseer and the first 3 books of malazan and I still think kingkiller chronicles is a great series. stay mad.

>>20600221
lol
lmao

Finished Malazan
Finished black company
Finished dread empire
Finished all the cosmere stuff
Finished asoiaf
Finished LotR
Finished prince of nothing
Finished WoT
Finished bloodsworn saga
Now what? Is there anything good left?

>>20598390
Reminder to read Cradle also I want Malice to be my mommy gf.

>>20600369
Do you only read books recommended by /sffg/ overlords?

>>20599868
there are only 6 dune books

>>20600369
>no Wolfe
>no Le Guin
>no Peake
Hop to it, kiddo.

>>20600374
No, but I am looking for something new so I wanted to get some of the commonly spouted suggestions out of the way.

>>20600374
>no chink shit
>no litrpg

>>20600390
Progession fantasy is alright so far as popcorn entertainment goes. Don't understand how people stomach litrpg though. Just seens like it's solely for autists who get some sort of therapeutic effect from seeing number go up.

>>20600369
Malazan>black company>prince of nothing>>dread empire>stormlight>LotR>wot>mistborn>asoiaf

I don't wanna rank bloodsworn because it's only 2 books so far, not sure it would be fair to compare but at least for now it's above mistborn

>>20600387
Smart

>>20600381
Book names?

Glen cook didn't believe in maps because he found they could become too restricting

Thoughts on this?
Whenever I open a book and I see a shit map it always puts me in a bad mood

>>20600408
For Wolfe
>Fifth Head of Cerberus
>Book of the New Sun tetralogy
>The Wizard Knight
Really basically all of Wolfe's work is good. WK and FH are good jumping on points, BotNS is commonly considered his magnum opus and a contender for /sffg/'s favorite work.
For Le Guin
>Wizard of Earthsea
>The Lathe of Heaven
You mainly seem like a fantasy guy, lathe of heaven is sci fi but still good.
For Peake
>Gormenghast Trilogy
I don't really have much to say about this one besides that it's good. Don't really know how to shill it to you in a way that does it justice.

>>20600423
I really appreciate this anon ty. I have certainly read more fantasy but have been looking for good sci fi to get into

>>20600146
I don't think ANYONE ever talks about Dread Empire.

>>20598869
Margarine is the most disgusting unhealthy thing boomers are obsessed with. The amount of margarine I was forced to consume as a child probably cut a decade off my lifespan. What are some books about parents fucking their children over like this anons?

>>20600369
Read The Dragon Never Sleeps. I wish Cook returned to it in a meaningful way because it was a decent take on military SF, albeit it felt like two novels crammed into one.

>>20600369
Drenai Saga

>>20598948
When I was a kid I had an hour long bus ride to and from school. Then I had an hour long lunch period. That gave me almost extra three hours to read (smartphones didn't exist back then) on top of reading before bed every night. I fell out of the habit of reading as an adult for a while. What worked for me might not work for you. I quit YouTube and 4chan is the only entertainment website I use for any significant amount of time. I do not own a smartphone at all. They are the devil's device. I set a kitchen timer, a digital one, for thirty minutes when I DON'T feel like reading. I've trained myself to start reading as soon as I set it. I often find myself reading for hours this way one chunk at a time. This method, often called the Pomodoro Technique, also works for other things too like exercise.

>>20600369
Myth Adventures by Robert Asprin
Amber Chronicles by Roger Zelazny
The Fellowship of the Talisman by Clifford D. Simak
Eden books by Harry Harrison
Gamester Wars series by William R. Forstchen

>>20600414
Yeah, desu. Although, having a rough map as an author were you track the travels of your characters is fine. And once you are done with the series for sure you can release the world atlas for extra money.

>>20599703
I despise hoarding. My mother in-law has thousands of books lining the shelves on her walls. The shelves are literally collapsing under the weight and humidity. My sister in-law's husband had to sleep in that room one weekend and he couldn't even find a spot to do push-ups without stacking furniture on top of itself. That's only the book room. You can barely move in their entire house. They can't find anything when they need it. There is no surface in the house that isn't piled high with random objects they do not use. It's a mental illness. Have you ever tried putting flooring down in a hoarder's house? Have fun moving ceramic dogs and urns around in between swinging a hammer.

>>20600621

>>20600369
KJ Parker, Engineer Trilogy is a good place to start

to whoever recommended me malice by gwynne john, thanks
this was made for ahdh autists like me and I can never get bored of reading this because it skips from character to character

>>20599123
Will be reading:
On Blue's Waters (Wolfe)
Out of the Silent Planet (C.S. Lewis)
The Worm Ouroboros (Eddison)

>>20599123
started caves of steel
should i do all of robots at once?
then a break for tltl2 or murderbot 6

>>20600519
Pity.
I really enjoyed it, but from doing some reading around online it seems that the sudden end was caused by Cook's drafts of the planned final 3 books being stolen in the 80's. He never finished the series until a new publisher picked it up and made him finish it. They said if he didn't they would make erikson finish it. So he did, and I did like the last book honestly, it wrapped up a lot of stuff but clearly there were unfinished things and character arcs I would have liked to seen through.
Especially after the prequel books, I was hoping to see more of Haroun's antics.

>>20600664
>drafts of the planned final 3 books being stolen in the 80's
I think I read about that before, but I wonder how the hell that happened. Or if thieves were just looking for the regular stuff. I wonder if stolen drafts float somewhere on the internet.

>>20598948
Are you on Goodreads with your list? Sort by page count and start working on the ones with least pages. Read when you shit.

>>20600784
If you spend more than a minute having a bowel movement, then you have problems.

>the labor was performed by convicts, prisoners of war, delinquent debtors and confirmed bachelors who were too poor to pay the high celibate tax which all red-Martian governments impose
MARTIAN WORK CAMPS FOR INCELS

>>20600573
>s when I DON'T feel like reading.
if i read and don't feel like i just start thinking of other thing while i read instead of the story. does this not happen to you?

>>20598948
Self-knowledge. You have to understand that you have a dependency on the internet, and treat it like you're kicking an addiction. Which means you're almost certainly going to have relapses even if you make the behavioral changes you want. With reading, I find it's always tempting to jump on here and post about what you read.
You have to make the decision to read instead of consuming other forms of entertainment. But you need a good reason for that decision or it won't stick. Once you get the ball rolling by reading something you enjoy a lot, you'll have more motivation to keep doing it.
Since you have so many books downloaded, I recommend going down your list of the ones you're most interested in and reading the first chapter. If you don't like it within 20 minutes, set it aside until something hooks you. That will help you not to get discouraged.

>>20600007
Trippiness and faggotry. I liked it but I wouldn't really call it sff. Burroughs fanfic, sort of.

>>20598948
have you considered that maybe you want to read a few hundred pages a week, but not more than that?

>>20600697
Him and his wife threw fantasy sex parties once a year, he said this party had 150+ people. Someone stole it hoping to find out the ending of the books, maybe not realizing it was the only copies or something then too shamed to own up and give them back

>>20598948
I read when I’m eating. I use a tablet so it’s easy to turn pages

>>20601271
>Him and his wife threw fantasy sex parties
wtf
>150 people
dun believe it

>>20600372
Did you draw this one too?

>>20601285
I was just assuming on the sex party part

>>20601301
Nah, I'm not your regularly scheduled shill. I'm just filling in for him.

>>20599024
Confusing a mathematical model of reality with actual reality.
Thinking you can get any profound insights about anything whatsoever from a pop-sci book on quantum mechanics.
Anything Schodinger's cat related.

t. actual physicist

>>20601531
Surprised you didn't bring up the observer effect.

Communication through quantum entanglement
Quantum mysticism
The brain is a quantum computer

>>20598948
this honestly, it's just too easy to continue ogling large anime breasts and lurk on fourchannel dot org

>>20598390
What are some good resources and sources of inspiration for creating magic systems for your stories? I've found a few below, do you agree with my choices or not, and do you have any others that you recommend? Thanks!

>https://blog.worldanvil.com/2020/01/11/magic-systems-getting-started-worldbuilding/
>https://www.well-storied.com/blog/how-to-create-a-magic-system-in-six-simple-steps
>https://kiingo.com/tip/sources-of-magic-systems
>https://wondrousworldbuilding.tumblr.com/post/158523989283/questions-for-your-developing-magic-system
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMenoEkEqxM

>>20601827
>What are some good resources and sources of inspiration for creating magic systems for your stories?
Why are you asking here? Fuck off to the writing general >>20598606

>>20601827
>worldbuilding
The world only exists insofar as it serves your story. It's useless on its own.

>>20599123
Sometimes when I see images like this I'm reminded of what we do to each other.
We dug rocks out of the ground and fed red hot fires for centuries to sharpen copper and tin to a point so that we can stab each other through whatever armor was fashioned before then and stick our foes from 6 meters away. And when that wasn't enough trial and error for need of something harder brought us steel so that we can swing and swing and swing, and go to the next battle and swing and swing.
How is hatred stirred so easily that farmers are convinced they need to kill those other farmers?
At least today you can point at a man in the suit and say if he's warmongering that he should just be slayed and let the borders that exist, be.

>>20601883
Good joke, in reference to Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel, India, and many other disputed borders.

>>20601883
Abhorrently cringe post.

>>20600890
I will tell myself over and over, "I am going to read today." and not let the thought leave as I sit at my computer. That kind of thing helped when I did nofap for a week. Just tell yourself to stop, literally tell yourself, "I must think of something else or do something else." and do.
>>20601199
I don't want this to be true but it might be. Hopefully the shame of only reading 5 books a year instead of 26 or so (from the 50 pages a day idea I got in another thread) will bring me shame and after a year I'll read more.
>>20601278
I wish me kindle cover folded out like the old versions but I got one that just opens and closes so it doesn't stand up well, or at all really. I should get a new one.
>>20601822
So easy that for a few years I've fetishized getting a daily planner white board so I can look at how pathetically I budget my time. Surely out of 16 hours I can spare 1 for reading.

But tonight when it's quiet. I'll pick up my kindle, go sit in a big lay-z-boy, build my little coffin of pillows and read more.
There's nothing on this site worth seeing on /pol/ anymore and it took me all of 6 minutes to catch up with posts from yesterday on this thread, which is fine enough for 4hcan interaction. I don't need a constant meme drip from /tv/. That too is always the same.

>>20598948
Literally just read you absolutely silly retard

>>20601927
We both know the solution to that problem is to finally deal with it but we let men in suits call us racists and anti-semites to discourage it.

>>20601883
Didn't read lol

coffin cure

>>20601940
>kindle cover
I bought a plate folder from Amazon to prop up my tablet for reading

>>20600651
>by gwynne john
Yep, we know you[re an autist, you don't have to tell us

I just finished my first read through of WOT. what do you all think about the series?

Give me audiobook recommendations

>>20602235
how did you managed to sit through all the 14 books

>>20602315
chomped through about two books a month. I didn't look anything up about WOT beforehand so I didn't even know it supposedly "slowed down". I sort of think its a meme which is compounded by the fact that Jordan was dying during the last books he put out.

jolenta booba shining so bright severian cannot hold himself bacc from ravishing her while the boat floats down the river

>>20600403
>Doing asoiaf dirty like that

>>20602322
How did you not drop it after book 3?

>>20602327
finish the books you fat fuck
maybe then people might care

>>20602331
book 4 is almost the peak of the series. you really missed out on the trip to Rhuidean

>>20599024
Most writers have zero idea what entails quantum mechanics. they use it as a vehicle for some mysticism subjectivity bullshit about how your mind can change reality or how a spiritual realm exists.

>>20602235
Mostly mediocre writing that gets carried by the massive mountain of buildup. Every now and then there's a legit great piece of writing though, like the pillars of Rhuidean.

>>20602323
kill yourself freak

>>20602376
I think I'm just a fan of Jordan's style. Not even meming I like the ridiculous amount of detail, skirt smoothing and braid tugging that's in these books. Its like a comforting blanket of repetition that he also slips heavy foreshadowing into

>>20602235
> what do you all think about the series?
i love it
what were some of your favorite moments?
>>20602322
>I sort of think its a meme which is compounded by the fact that Jordan was dying during the last books he put out.
i agree with this. besides a lot of people hate faile so they hate the malden plotline

>>20602334
I actually dropped it after book 4. It just was meh and I didn't care about the characters

>>20602388
soulless

>>20602379
wanna make a suicide pact?

>>20602385
I was so surprised to learn that people hate Faile, Galad/Gawyn, Perrin/Faile's relationship and so on. These are some of my favorite characters! Galad slaying Eamon Valda was a top tier moment.
I'm a little more biased towards the end books since I just read them, but I absolutely love the beginning of book 4 when everyone is chilling in the stone of tear. You get a really unique Moiraine POV where she is deep in thought while also easily playing the highlords against themselves and contemplating what Rand is going to do next. That chapter really stood out to me.

Perrin vs. Slayer battles were awesome. Absolutely insane balefire crazy rand in book 11 was soooo interesting and the Zen Rand moment on dragonmount in book 12 was top tier. All the build up in WOT is worth it. All of it.
It is so funny to read about how people couldn't get past like 4 books in this series because you just know they didn't even encounter a true Mat chapter yet.
My girlfriend is now reading the series and she's finishing up book 3 now so I'm dipping in and out and reading the chapters that she's on. I'm probably going to do a reread while she's doing her initial readthrough. It is really nuts how much you miss during the first read.

>>20602390
pray for them.

Any fantasy book with a protagonist like Matt from WOT?

>>20602416
I wish I could run about Ebou Dar and have a temper tantrum while Queen Tylin orders her citizens to starve me out so that I will return to the palace for dinner and she can pound me out all night in lace..

>>20599241
They are fine, but I wouldn't recommend them if you are not already a Halo fan.

>>20602390
It was a very soulless story

>>20602409
You might just be a faggot

>>20602419
kino of the highest order

>>20602483
Robert Jordan was a patrician of the highest caliber. its even more kino that you get hundreds of pages of this dynamic

>>20602409
How can you not hate Faile?? I'm almost certain Jordan himself did.

>>20602570
I WISH Faile and Berelain participated in the Saldaean dagger duel to the death. She's the type of character to walk up to someone she's pissed at and challenge them like that. I think people just misinterpret borderlanders and the fact that Perrin can basically read her mind so it comes off to the reader that she's a bitch

>>20602409
>I was so surprised to learn that people hate Faile, Galad/Gawyn, Perrin/Faile's relationship and so on.
yeah, when i finished reading and starting looking at wot forums i was surprised everyone hated faile so much (and egwene). i wasn't surprised by gawyn, though, he was quite the shit character and i would've much preferred if egwene had fallen in love with a young strapping aiel (approved by sorilea ofc) which i think would've been an excellent venue to explore the interactions of the aiel with wetlanders as they acclimate in a more personal matter
> These are some of my favorite characters!
why do you like gawyn?
> I absolutely love the beginning of book 4 when everyone is chilling in the stone of tear.
there are lot of comfy moments. since you mention the stone i remember how at the end of the dragon reborn everyone was reunited in that conference room inside the stone and were processing the recent happenings and the berelain barges in, it's like they had just saved the day and then a new problem is thrust upon them to solve

>>20602464
>faggot
>has a gf
uh anon, i don't think you know how that works
>>20602570
it's quite strange that chuds here don't like her considering how much she tries to get perrin to hit her

>>20602586
Yeah Gawyn is the lesser of the characters I mentioned, but I think that he totally redeems himself. He pretty much realizes he's been a bitch for the entire series and decides he HAS to make a big move and I love watching it blow up in his face. Him sneaking off to attack Demandred lead to sooo many amazing moments.
I would totally recant calling Gawyn a favorite, we all know Mat is everyone's favorite. But I do think he's a fully realized character who has pay off on par with many other main characters.

>>20602602
the average 4chan user would cut off his legs to be with Faile, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

>>20602604
>Him sneaking off to attack Demandred lead to sooo many amazing moments.
he essentially delivered the final blow to egwene
>we all know Mat is everyone's favorite
my most disliked characters are elayne, gawyn, tuon and mat. kek

do you have any favorite subplot? the rhuidean trip, egwene and nynaeve's stay in the white tower, nynaeve and elayne in tanchico, etc...

>tfw the only time we ever visited seanchan was when aviendha accidentally got herself there
i will forever be blueballed on exploring seanchan

>>20602604
>we all know Mat is everyone's favorite
The one funny character being everybody's favorite is a terrible indictment against the series as a whole

>>20598923
I made this mistake.
I got no problem with his endings, actually quite enjoy them because as a true Lynch-fag I enjoy a certain lack of closure as it keeps the story alive, and I went to one of his Q&A's and just wanted to ask him why he chose abrupt endings like that curious what he would say.
Holy shit he acted like I'd raped his mother and very aggressively told me that he's actually written quite a few denouements in his day thank you very much and furthermore all his most recent books (I haven't read any of em I stopped at Crypto) have proper endings so please stop asking this.
I was kind of just like, oh, okay, and walked back to my chair with the whole crowd glaring at me. Then the next guy got to the mic and said some shit like just for the record I love your endings! And the whole room clapped for him.

>>20602653
I really like how Masema went from random Shienaran soldier to the prophet and how much of an issue that generated

Overall Rand was not the BEST dragon reborn and he had many many failings that he still has to reconcile with. Post epiphany Rand is well aware that there will be the need for another dragon reborn as well which is reassuring but also pretty foreboding given what they just went through. The next age is going to have a hard time.
I feel like the bore will be opened once more and the dark one will make a powerplay again sometime a few thousand years from the resealing

>>20602721
How so?

>>20600369
>Finished all the cosmere stuff
Yikes

read cradle.

>>20603063
Why

>>20599123
Presently reading "Stand On Zanzibar" by Robert Brunner.
It was written in 1968 and set in 2010.
Got a surprisingly large number of cultural references correct.

>>20599357
>kys

>>20602611
That's all (you), chunk.

>>20602829
when mierin and beidomon were looking to tap into the new energy source they found (the true power) they bored though a weaker part of the pattern, i believe rand's amalgamation of the one power and true powers could be this, after all while he may have forged anew he isn't the creator himself

>>20599169
I read "A Hymn Before Battle" by John Ringo.
I'm not really into military sci-fi, or military books in general, but I liked it.
You might like it more than I did.
Plus, it's the first novel in a series.

>>20599169
Undying mercenaries is pretty fun.

>>20603467
oh no no no

>>20603645
Ugh. Don't trust any woman that "smiles" like that.
She's less of a woman and more of a piranha.

>>20603645
one dimensional female characters is how you know it's good

>>20599674
Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

>>20600369
Sword of Shadows J V Jones

Fuck I really don't understand why people want illustrations in their books
It makes me mad

>>20603765
Because sometimes the heroine has ginormous ta-tas?

>>20603765
I had a dream the other day that I was reading a book that pretended to be general audience SFF but had more pictures than text

Teach me how to load pirates books onto kindle, I just got one but it's connected with my main Amazon account so I'd rather it not get banned or whatever

>>20603709
This sounds like those edgy isekai that's been popular, but it's written in the late 1970s.

>>20603765
what's wrong

>>20603765
Conan is better for all the illustrations we've gotten.
Just draw the spaceship. Let me see the damn thing. I don't care how many useless wings and engines and points you put on it. Just let me see it.
Show me more triangles I haven't seen yet. I must see more triangles.

>>20602961
In fantasy books one of the things I enjoy the most is the worldbuilding and although with some stories I think sanderson does drag his feet a fair bit not getting far, I do like the cosmere universe as its developing and has me much more interested in looking forward to the books to come.

>>20603836
I don't know if they give a shit but I have airplane mode on.
You download books. Use Calibre to send them to device (it will ask to auto-convert them, say yes). And you're done.

Problem is I have a nice wakeup screen of a pretty woman looking through a telescope that I fear will go away if I turn airplane mode off since it will be able to download new ads.

>>20603836
just dont go online lmao
>>20603885
I've either never turned the wifi on with my current kindle or it's been so long that I don't even get ads. I just have a default 'screensaver' image of the letters 'Kindle' rearranged and shit.

>>20603765
I want to SEE what the fantasy shit looks like, both as a reader and as an author
Proper illustrations are perfect accompaniment for the text desc

>>20603765
In cases like say, Alice in Wonderland or just old-timey stuff in general it can be extremely charming in modern cases though? Yeah, it's cringe.

>>20603919
holy shit imagine being this pretentious

>>20603864
I don't want to have images imposed on me

>>20603908
Nah, 9/10 the way it appears in my own imagination is usually 1000% superior than the way the author tends to depict their own stuff.

>>20603923
>>20603919
It signals a lack of confidence on the part of the author

>>20603930
too bad
I spit upon death of the author
the curtains are fucking blue because they were on clearance

>>20603923
How is that pretentious? Give me ONE example of a modern illustrated work that isn't pure fucking cringe.

>>20603937
The Faraway Paladin

>>20603944
Cringe. Good job, faggot.

>>20603950
blow it out your ass retard

>>20603807
That's a gross image, anon.

>>20603765
>Fuck I really don't understand why people want illustrations in their books
They read too much light novels.

>>20603765
What about when the author draws their own maps? Is that okay or is that too much too? Why can't an author who draws on the side put in their own illustrations?

>>20603955
>Kellhus

Thank you for proving my point, fag degenerate worshipper.

Genocide all Bakker posters

>>20600369
Get some Elric in there.

>>20599868
Definitely not.

>>20601883
I kinda see what you mean anon, but if it’s any consolation a lot of times people just wanted to make sharper weapons to hunt animals before wanting to kill any humans.
>>20600826
Kek, I gotta read this.
>>20600653
>On Blue's Waters
Man, Wolfe has written so much there are still some of his titled I don’t recognize. Need to read more of him and Lewis.
>>20602308
The Martin Shaw version of The Silmarillion.
>>20603063
I’m more interested thanks to you anon, I’ll say that.

>>20603765
Sometimes it's great. Shallans illustrations in stormlight are fantastic. Its nice when the author gives a more official credence to what the creatures are supposed to look like.

Bloodsworn is terrible with this, I still don't know what half of those fucking vaeson are supposed to look like

Squirtle is a flying centipede mix with a hornet I think?
Vesli I think is like a hairless cat but shaped like a dog sized dragon?
Those goblin things, are they like goblins?
The trolls are obviously generic trolls with emphasis on their giant testicles for some reason and horns

>>20600369
Conan, my son.

>>20599868
>Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson

NO, you fucking FAGGOT

To the anon a few threads ago who recommended me The Broken Sword to read on my winter holiday to Tasmania, thank you. I finished it today, reading drunk by a fire. Anderson's prose was stunning - reminded me a little of a more-serious Vance. It's a shame he wrote mostly science-fiction which I don't care for much. I'm going to check out his Ys series, as well as the Conan novel he wrote when I get back to Queensland.

>>20604279
You're welcome.

>>20604054

>>20599937
>tfw grew up reading kja star wars eu but not young jedi
>why is he so hated? i know it's got something to do with dune

Most people dislike his prose. He writes very simplistically and his characters are usually pretty one dimensional. The one thing he's really good at though is worldbuilding. An analogy I've heard for him is that he's the IKEA of Sci-Fi writers. He builds massive plotlines with whole roomfuls of characters and brings everything together exactly where it's supposed to and makes it look easy but his actual writing is pretty barebones. I personally enjoy him but I realize he's basically a schlock writer that occasionally stumbles upon interesting plots.
TLDR He's a hack but some of his work (YJK, Seven Suns) is enjoyable.

He also answered all of my annoying questions on Goodreads so he gets some points for that.

>>20604449
>Most people dislike his prose. He writes very simplistically and his characters are usually pretty one dimensional.
Yeah, but that’s genre fiction as a whole.

>>20599937
>young jedi
Star Wars: Young Jedi Knights was the shit, got I miss the old star wars EU.

>>20599241
>Are the halo books any good?
All of the Bungie era ones are good, yes. Especially the Nylund ones. The Forerunner Saga is also pretty good Hard SF/Space Opera but YMMV. Avoid everything after unless you're a huge Halo fanboy.

>>20604054
Another plebeian filtered by the king of modern spec-fiction.

>>20604453
>Yeah, but that’s genre fiction as a whole.
True, but Anderson writes barely above YA level. Honestly, by today's standards he's actually pretty good but compared to the greats of the genre he doesn't hold a candle. Like I said, I enjoy him for what he is. And, if you don't take your genre fiction too seriously you probably will too.

>>20604499
>Honestly, by today's standards he's actually pretty good but compared to the greats of the genre he doesn't hold a candle
Anon, nobody can compare to Tolkien, but that's not Anderson's fault, Tolkien simply defined the genre.

BAKKER.
IS.
KANG.

>>20604499
>And, if you don't take your genre fiction too seriously you probably will too.
No, why would I? If I wanted to read something serious, I wouldn’t read fantasy or science fiction.

>>20604534
This. I read genre fiction to be entertained.

Seriously. In Echopraxia, do we learn more about the events with the anomaly in Blindsight.
So far I've got a guy running around the woods.
I don't hate the weird Earth parts of his story I just want to know what the hell the thing in space wanted.
Also is any of his other work kino?

>>20604599
Keep reading it instead of wasting your time here.

>>20604449
>Most people dislike his prose
>Prose
And I would ignore those people.

terry pratchett sucs

>>20598390
Does anyone find some violence in contemporary fantasy a bit bland? If it’s dark, it’s done in a kind of crude way. If it’s unthinkable, it’s over the top and almost cheesy. I really liked how Poul Anderson dealt with the final battle in The Broken Sword, for one.

>>20604658
>Does anyone find some violence in contemporary fantasy a bit bland?
no

That ending pissed me off.

Natalie and Saul ''win'' by lowering themselves to the same level as the creatures they despise so much: manipulating Melanie into conditioning and finally Using an innocent military man into ordering the bombing of the island and yacht. They knew very well that later that man would be convicted in a military court and spent the rest of his life in prison or get the death sentence (if Melanie didn't dispose of him before that). They ruined an innocent man's life. How is that different from the Oberst ruining the life of the man he used to kill Lee Harvey Oswald? Natalie is extra hypocritical for the line ''no one deserves to die as an extra in a B horror movie''. It runs out our heroes are no different from the Mossad terrorists or Palestinian terrorists. The Oberst was right, he won.

>>20604697
Also their masterplan was to infiltrate a geriatric scholar into the island so he could play Rambo and NOT be killed, Used or captured in a thousand different ways that would ruin the mission, in the hopes that he could reach the very specific scenario of being alone with the Oberst and being Used by him? That is so incredibly stupid, it makes me mad that I wasted so much time with this long ass book.

>>20604522
Geez, faggot.. your mom let's you suck TWO DICKS?!

>>20604635
You were filtered.

Has anybody here read Dawn by Octavia Butler? I picked it up for a uni class and have been assuming it was trash picked because of who the author was, thus I never read it.

>>20604697
>>20604711
And I almost forgot: Tony Harod, who seemed to be on a genuine path of self-improvement, if not redemption, gets the short end of the stick. While Saul and Natalie get a happy ending. What a sick joke.

>>20604717
Just read it.

>>20604750
He won’t. That’s the issue here.

>>20604717
If you, have it, just read it, anon.

Star Wars novels are the best. Even the FanFiction are great.

>>20604822
What do you like about them in particular?

>>20604825
That I like it.

>>20604822
>Star Wars novels are the best.
I liked the scholastic Jedi Apprentice. Reading about Kenobi going from a Youngling to Padawan and going on adventures were great.

>>20604834
Never read the one with Anakin and Obiwan, but I heard it was decent. I should really read the clone wars books.

>>20604834
I’ve read the Disney Tarkin and it was okay, was thinking of reading a bit more of them, like Bloodline.

>>20604857
I'll go with Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel. It's decent and written by James Luceno.

>>20604860
>James Lucano
Should I read his novels first? I keep hearing they’re Kino.

>>20604866
>Should I read his novels first?
Definitely, he writes the best Star Wars novels in my opinion. I still love his Darth Plageuis novel.

Anybody got any weight loss tips for an obese, balding fantasy fan?

>>20604879
No, and we don’t care about your problems.

>>20604879
Go to /fit/ retard.

>>20604879
One meal a day, walk for an hour. Do this for 6 months. No breaks or cheating.

>>20604879
Intermittent fasting and snake juice.

>>20604943
>2 memes
Retard.

>>20599672
Existence by David Brin, but I personally hated it and could never finish it. It's kind of dragged down by its own internal politics and none of the characters were compelling or worth caring about. The parts actually related to first contact and not the socio-political machine that was processing it were actually kind of interesting, but I don't have too much to say beyond that because I could never bring myself to finish the damn book.

>>20604964
You and I have ancestors that lived without fire or knives for their entire lives.
You can go 3 days without eating.

>>20601827
Reject "magic"
Embrace psionics

>>20604992
I love crystals. God I wish that were me.

>>20604982
Don’t worry. He’s in love with gorging his fat face.

New thread
>>20605175

>>20604879
stop eating and read more