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Where do I start with Mircea Eliade?

>> No.20545834

>>20545829
Sacred and the Profane, then move to The Myth of Eternal Return, and finish it off with Patterns in Comparative Religion. And never read Girard, ignore that slob people use to discredit Eliade.

>> No.20545846

>>20545829
if you want more precise understanding then Evola and Nae Ionescu should be your on your reading list aswell.

>> No.20548028

>>20545846
A based Nae Ionescu connoisseur I see. Is he even translated into other languages? Nici in romana nu au mai aparut editii recente.

>> No.20548306

>>20545829
You don't.

>> No.20548382

>>20545829
Should I go through his history of religious ideas to understand his ideas?

>> No.20548402
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>> No.20548701

>>20545829
Mademoiselle Christine
The Three Graces (title may be different in English)

>> No.20548727

>>20545834
>ignore that slob people use to discredit Eliade.
how is Girard used against Eliade?

>> No.20548754

>>20545846
>Nae Ionescu
>Nae Ionescu was a Romanian philosopher, logician, mathematician, professor, and journalist. Near the end of his career, he became known for his antisemitism and devotion to far right politics, in the years leading up to World War II.
Dropped

>> No.20548756

>>20548754
Eliade was the same.

>> No.20548758

>>20548756
Dropped

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>> No.20548863

>>20548754
>>20548756
/ourguys/

>> No.20548882

>>20548754
Romanian bourgeoisie was threatened by the communist revolution sweeping Europe at the time, it's only obvious that most intellectuals, which were part of it because only the higher classes had access to education, started supporting fascist politics.

>> No.20548980

>>20548882
They were also invaded by Russia, only a duck would support communism.

>> No.20548982

>>20548754
>>20548756
Bassd. Ordered their books.

>> No.20549074

>>20548980
People outside the few major cities lived in atrocious poverty and the political system was corrupt to the bone. Communism had the perfect ground to enter.

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>>20548882
>t.

>> No.20549966

>>20545829
Who?

>> No.20550113

>>20545846
to this day i still can't tell if anons who claim evola is a major intellectual figure are joking or serious and i don't know which is worse

>> No.20550120

>>20550113
If Marx and Foucault are major intellectual figures, Evola is a genius

>> No.20551390

>>20550113
hes a major intellectual figure if you enjoy eating your own shit

>> No.20551629

>>20548756
Didn’t Eliade get considerably less right-leaning as time went on

>> No.20551694

>>20548402
this is an excellent beginner's book... if you manage to read it from start to finish, Eliade is for you... if not, >>20545829 try Culianu (his student... who managed to get assassinated because of his writings! top that!)
I am personally an Evola kind of guy, but I appreciate Eliade's fiction, especially his short novels; if he wasn't so caught up in armchair anthropology, he could have been the next Lovecraft

>> No.20552102

>>20549966
The guy that inspired some Fucked Up songs.

>> No.20552105 [DELETED] 

>>20548754
>>20548756
Just bought all 3 volumes o

>> No.20552111

>>20551629
The opinions of people don’t change or evolve, just their conditions. That is to say, he got buck broken by the surrounding postwar society.

>> No.20552123

>>20552111
>The opinions of people don’t change or evolve, just their conditions
t. Marxist bugman

>> No.20552292

>>20551694
>who managed to get assassinated because of his writings! top that!)
There is a book out there that discusses his assassination. The thesis is, he was a victim of a conspiracy by the Romanian government, and secret agents came to kill him for his fascist views.

>> No.20552559

>>20551629
He just stopped talking about politics, but he did maintain correspondence with Evola, supported de Benoist and GRECE etc. Not unusual in his situation, it was very similar with for instance Georges Dumezil.

>> No.20552590

>>20548754
Would you read something written by Albert Speer? Inside the Third Reich has weird random shit in it where Speer references the northern lights as if Hitler is being guided by them or another part with Hitler sitting in darkness with the windows open in silence while waiting for the clock to strike the precise time the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to became official.

>> No.20552602

>>20550113
Anyone who is considered an "intellectual figure" in today's world is a refutation of their character.

>> No.20552836

>>20552602
Maybe their critiques of democratization were correct in pointing out potential dangers we will find ourselves in (and thereby answering to whatever criticisms they have is an important exercise).

>> No.20553508

>>20548306
Why?

>> No.20553588

>>20553508
Because you won't be able to make snarky offhanded comments to display an obviously superior intelligence when you actually read something and learn from it.

>> No.20553757

>>20552292
>for his fascist views
if you have any factual references to works in which he mentions his "fascist views", do share them; as far as I know, there were none... as opposed to Eliade who had more "merit" to be targeted for the kind conspiracy you aim for...
otherwise maybe check out his last articles (published after 1989), such as the one about the sin against the Holy Spirit; they were not promoting any view, fascist or not, they were just anti-communist

>> No.20553779

>>20553757
>they were just anti-communist
That's considered fascist in today's discourse

>> No.20553788

>>20553588
Yes you will

>> No.20553795

>>20548028
nimeni nu citeste Nae Ionescu, sinucide-te

>> No.20554269

>>20553788
That guy didn't.

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>>20553757
Check out this book.

>> No.20554315

>>20548402
That's where I started as well, but the topic is so niche that I really don't think it's remotely necessary to lay foundations for Eliade's work specifically.

>> No.20554894

>>20554279
thanks for the cheese whiz boy!

>> No.20555800

>>20545829
With his first book.

>> No.20555952

>>20548382
not particularly neceassary, the tetralogy History of religious ideas is meant more as a collection of his recollections and application of his own previous ideas to almost every religious tradition of the world.

>> No.20555965

>>20548758
>>20548756
>>20548754
Please for the love of everything Sacred you fucking brainlets read shit without attempting to filter it through your puny problematic/acceptable retarded post-christian eurocentric value-systems.

>> No.20555984

>>20548882
this has to be a bait.

>> No.20556006

>>20555965
>uses “eurocentric” as an insult
Dropped

>> No.20556027

>>20556006
you were dropped as a child.

>> No.20556086

>>20556006
>in the 60s "cozy job" was to be an engineer
>in the 70s "cozy job" was to be an artist
>in the 80s "cozy job" was to be a doctor
>in the 90s "cozy job" was to work at the UN
>in the 00s "cozy job" was to be a programmer
>in the 10s "cozy job" was to be an LGBT teacher worshiping immigrants and cartels
>today "cozy job" is to be a bureaucrat (a.k.a. tenured politician) in Europe, shitposting on taxpayer's money and not questioning what you are told to do

>> No.20557507

>>20556086
What's the cozy job of 20s?

>> No.20557622

>>20557507
Executioner

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>>20557622
>>20557507

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>>20545829
Start here.

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>>20558857
>that text reducing Eliade to an animist furry worshiping a rock with a hole in it
SAD

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>>20558857
It goes without saying that writers like Jung, Campbell and Eliade are more interesting from a philosophical point of view than a scientific one. The "not science" gotcha is the ultimate midwit refutal against what anything that you dislike, it implies that we seek objectivity as the ultimate goal in our lives.

History of religion has broadly speaking two different kinds of audiences, those who seek for approval and those who seek for refutation. it is either Marx's approach or Eliade's approach. But I guess that, like many communists don't care whether or not social divide is a real and global conspiracy, those approaching the history of religion need more than the atoms and molecules of history.

>> No.20559240

>>20558961
>Marx's approach
you mean purloining the idea of "heaven", and renaming it "transcendental materialism", all the while promoting all kinds of Jesus-killing pornography?

>> No.20559253

>>20558961
tell me more about the "not science" gotcha, it's like music to my ears and I love copying these replies to STEMfriends I have who are too retarded to realize that their reductionist approach can only work on so many things

>> No.20559291

>>20558857
this is the impotent ejaculate of an academic who's severed his humanity because it was impossible to reconcile with the constructs of other impotent academics whose shoulder pats and approving glances he yearns for since his dad (rightfully) beat him for being a nerd