/lit/ - Literature

>>20547717
Yes but only to laugh at all of you

>>20547717
>people in liberal arts
>more or less respectable
>anthropology/psychology/philosophy/sociology
You're a funny guy

>>20547720
>>20547726
like pottery

I have a STEM PhD if that counts

>>20547726
That guy died recently. (pbuh)

>>20547717
There was a PhD or doctorates student who was writing his dissertation on Nietzsche years ago.

>>20547717
no, intellectuals are to busy selling their new books on CNN

>>20547717
I'm a lawyer, do I count on the masters part?

>>20548091
wtf is a lawyer doing on 4chan? kek

No because this board is greatly limited in comparison to an actual university/institute and the other resources they would have available.

I'd say like 1/3rd of /lit/ is grad students

No. I’d go to grad school, but I have no way of getting reccs.

>>20547717
>respectable disciplines like anthropology/psychology/philosophy/sociology.
KEK

>>20547717
Plenty of Master's and PhD students but mostly in STEM. Humanities students are all trannies so you'll only find them on twttter

>>20547717
Why would they? This is unironically one of the dumbest sites on the internet.

>>20548651
Post ONE better public forum for discussing literature

>>20548680
Literally any other social media site.

>>20548694
Ah you're a tranny carry on

he's the guy who wrote behead all satans

>>20547717
We've had a few profs here. There was one English lecturer that made a good thread not too long ago

>>20547720
fpbp

>>20547717
I went back and forth with someone who claimed to be a philosophy grad student. Wasn't really impressed, desu.

>>20549976
Eh, undergrads only have general knowledge if they study nothing but the course material and grads only have specialised knowledge in one area

Imagine giving a fuck about ScHoLaRs lmfao

Probably not. And just as well because I'm not interested in what some queer who "engages boys and men in discussions about masculinity and lad culture" has to say.

OP HERE
i only ask cause i want to get a masters and wondered if it was worth sticking around here to ask questions about what they do. surprised my question was couched to draw out what seem like honest answers.
>>20547927
no but good job. i hope you aren't a psychopathic hacker that stalks people
>>20548091
yes
>>20548680
phpBB3 forums sometimes have sleepy boomers that know their stuff. my local university used to have IRL discussion events but they're either impossible to follow because everyone's 200IQ or it's a panel event that's too one-sided

>>20547717
(((Rhodes Scholar)))

>>20548091
No, since you’re not a real lawyer (ie, trial attorney).

>>20550539
>phpBB3 forums sometimes have sleepy boomers that know their stuff
Well post one

>>20549548
Those were some good threads. Hope someone like him comes along again.

>>20547717
When I was in uni I knew a bunch of grad students in stem and the humanities that browsed lit. You could pretty easily tell apart the people who more interested in having read things and those who really had a passion for the subject. I know many of the former still browse this board, while most of the latter moved on from it and spent their free time actually reading.

I've a doctorate in History, specialized in the Bandeiras (portuguese funded incursions into the brazilian hinterlands), also dabbled in some of the anthropological aspects of natives and how it changed with the arrival of europeans. Published some papers, co-written some books and I make a living out of it. However, I rarely post here, primarily because the subject of brazilian history/literature rarely comes up and I am a lurker by nature, even in other boards.
If you got any questions about being a researcher I can try to answer them, but I think much of my experience won't apply to you since things are a bit different in Brazil.

>>20550663
>specialist in bandeiras
Excedingly ba-
>is brazilian
Nvm

>>20550836
too bad

>>20550663
Sounds cool

>>20550596
It was a long time ago, I don't remember their names sorry
>>20550663
Based. As much as you want to describe about what your work is like would be awesome, thanks.
How hard was getting accepted into a MA program compared to undergrad? And what about the program itself? How much did you read each day/week? I can't wrap my head around publishing 300-600 pages of thesis or dissertation after 2 years of regular classes seeing how 10-20 page papers was the norm at the end of 4 years of undergrad. Having that much interesting things to say about a specific subject just sounds absurd.
Did you travel much when researching? How many people did you talk to/meet/work with? Did you ever feel like your master's thesis/other work wouldn't matter or influence people in general?
Were you tied to a professor's research/expertise and who primarily mentors you, has you advance their ideas/conceptions/paradigms, teach their classes etc.?
Do you go to conferences? what is the competition like between research groups for funding?

>>20551046
>how hard was getting accepted into a MA program compared to undergrad
It was exactly the same. Not harder, not easier. Undergrad classes are broader by nature since it's your first step into the field. Once you go for the MA (few do), it's a matter of choosing a field that also benefits your institution. At this point, students branch out and choose a particular field, so unless you've got a bunch of people shooting for the same topic, all you gotta do is show your institution that you're capable in your particular field of study.
>and what about the program itself
Once you get in, it's business as usual. You have to do a whole lot more networking (more on that later), but your routine stays pretty much the same. Read, read, consult someone, read more, take notes, revise them, consult again etc. Only difference is that you'll have to spend more time on it.
>how much did you read each day/week
I can't give you an exact measure, but I spent at least 4 hours invested in it through classes, then at least 4 more reading by my own. You can do more or less, that depends on you and how your MA program is structured.
>publishing 300-600 pages of thesis or dissertation after 2 years of regular classes seeing how 10-20 page papers was the norm at the end of 4 years of undergrad
It's not that hard, really. As I said, you'll have to apply yourself more and be more prolific, but at the end of every week the pages just keep mounting as you consult different people and draw from different sources. Even though you're going for a specific field, you have some leeway with it.
>having that much interesting things to say about a specific subject just sounds absurd
Same as above. For instance, at first I was focusing on the bandeiras led by Raposo Tavares. I was digging into it, came across some relevant information about another bandeirante and even some european explorers who were here at the same time (and left records of their travels). I wrote about them too, and no one complained about it, since it was related to the primary topic.
>did you travel much when researching
Went to some bordering states in order to access some official documents that hadn't been digitalized yet. It's not as exciting as it sounds, it mostly boils down to trade excerpts from the Crown and things like birth certificates, but I believe that's more specific to the History field, I don't know how that would play out on a Philosophy or Literature MA. One time I had to get in touch with an absolute madman from Portugal, shit was cash.
>were you tied to a professor's research/expertise and who primarily mentors you, has you advance their ideas/conceptions/paradigms, teach their classes etc
Reply too long, I'll resume it on my next post.

>>20551046
>were you tied to a professor's research/expertise and who primarily mentors you, has you advance their ideas/conceptions/paradigms, teach their classes etc
We harken back to what I said earlier, about the "networking". Yes, I had a mentor who pointed me towards the right direction and gave me some perspective. I was an assistant at some of his classes, he taught me a great deal and today I am proud to say we're friends, that is, equals. This is the part where our experience may vary wildly since I don't know how things works where you live, but, at least over here, once you finish your MA and actually want to publish some papers and make a living as a researcher, you gotta be what I call a "social whore". Want to publish a paper in a magazine that actually has an audience? You better suck up to whoever the top dog is, and in the humanities field, that often means aping their political stance, being pro-this against-that and so on. Even if you take the political aspect out of it, you still gotta be their lapdog try and fit in with the group. It's disgusting. I could go on all night about this, but to put it short, what I mean is you have to conform to their standards if you want to get things done.
>do you go to conferences? what is the competition like between research groups for funding?
Yes, I do, and competition isn't the right word for it. Once you get there, it's a matter of perspective. Different ideas are thrown around, but it never comes down to hostility. It's more like a friendly rivalry.

Pretty sure F Gardner is the most famous person ever confirmed to visit this board.

>>20548636
Q_Q b..but I’m in anthropology…. I just wanna learn about human social structures you guys…..

me, an intellectual

im a neet and fuck more bitches

>>20550539
OP my first advice to you is lurk more because I've seen plenty of threads asking exactly this sort of question, and a fair amount of answers too. If you would have started with this, I think it would get more replies. If you asked and nobody answered, the worst that happens is some other awful thread gets sent to its rightful place.

I'm doing my doctorate in philosophy if I can be of any help.

>>20553208
What do you think about German idealism?

>>20547720
fpbp

>>20553320
A really good start to unravelling a lot of the problems that have plagued philosophy for ages. I think it would be a mistake to think that they "solved" philosophy, but Hegel and Kant especially at least started asking the right questions and didn't make the mistake of presupposing our conscious rational experiences as bedrock. We owe them a great debt.

>>20553760
>didn't make the mistake of presupposing our conscious rational experiences

>>20553776
Describe the difference between Kant and Locke without making exactly my point in the process.

>>20547717
yeah i'm pretty sure there are grad students here. my friend who was a philosophy grad student regulared this place

>>20553835
Kant presupposed more subtle retarded things (the logical mechanism that justifies pure categories) while Locke presupposed less subtle retarded things such as tabula rasa (angloid egalitarian ideology)

>>20548694
no. in theory you should be able to make a bubble of only stuff you like i.e. filter retards but the format simply does not allow real discussion or interactions that don't have other motives.

>>20553891
I think you're misunderstanding the difference between Kant's "logical" categories which are the structural prerequisites for conscious cognition as we know it, with Locke's logic, which treats all the "subtle" things Kant does as a given, or doesn't even acknowledge the need for such a space to begin with. Which, again, proves my point. You explained nothing.

>>20553948
>you misunderstand!
No I don't, you're just stupid

>>20548104
Visit AutoAdmit and you'll know

>>20553973
Well I guess thats that. Please, throw some more wikipedia at me and see if it sticks this time.

>>20553993
I don't need to throw anything else, I already responded and it filtered you. Come back when you grow 20 more IQ points

>>20547717
Yes, they come here to discuss with our highest minds. They love learning about the 50 authors that /lit/ keeps talking about over and over again.

>>20554043
>he thinks you need more than 50 authors
Pseud spotted

>>20548695
Truly intellectual statement

>>20551297
>>20551199
Thanks for the info, it's super helpful. Not sure what degree I want to apply for but anthropology is definitely high on the list along with social psych or maybe neuroscience.
>all you gotta do is show your institution that you're capable in your particular field of study.
How many programs did you apply to?
>I could go on all night about this, but to put it short, what I mean is you have to conform to their standards
Yeah I'm definitely curious about this. I'm sure there are valuable connections to be had(arguably the biggest reason I'd apply), but like how do you mean standards? If they're Christian/pro-abortion/anti-gun then should people that publish 'under' them be as well? Is there an application process or specific requirements for publishing in magazines? Do they give you draft deadlines and do you work a lot with editors? Are you going to these people's dinner parties/buying them single malt scotch?

>>20553208
I lurked more often during undergrad(studied phil) but I felt like this place made me dumber after being less proactive since I work in a different field now. And yeah if you want to share your own experience with graduate study or anything you wish you did/tips for undergrads I'd love to read it.
Do you go to philosophy conferences? What are they like? How important is it to align yourself in terms of worldview with an institution/a professor before applying (either to MA or higher)? Is reading their online descriptions/work enough to get a sense of it?
How many programs did you apply to?
Is there a philosophy book or paper that is like your single biggest influence?

>>20547726
Sh-Shut up!

I'm a researcher in theology, specialization in community engagement

>>20547717
I have written like 3 non-fiction philosophy books but published none of them. I'm not a scholar but I do write schizo core

bump

I am a researcher in cutting edge subjects that you people would not be able to fathom, such as loop quantum gravity, at a major international research institution, and I am here simply to tell you that F. Gardner is the greatest living author

>>20547717
I dropped out of an analytic political philosophy program, only got a BA. AMA.

>>20548245
It's the opposite. Universities are stifling, over-professionalized, shitty environments. Grad students and postgrads come here for the same reason undergrads come here. It's a mixed bag but you can at least say what you want to say and talk to some unpretentious people.

Academia is mostly dying. I would not put any stock at all in the bare fact that someone has a PhD. I viewed my peers at the most prestigious institutions in the world as barely functional functionaries, turbo-normies with office jobs. Judge people by their actual intellectual output, on a case by case basis. Also learn to notice when people shift into a fancy register because they're aware of being seen. Academia is so badly decayed that nobody merits an aura of fanciness or "elevated" diction. If someone speaks in a casual, self-aware way about having a PhD, in the same tone and manner as an electrical engineer explaining the process of getting certified to a newbie, they're probably legit. If they start acting like they appreciate that you're impressed by their credentials, talking unnaturally like a fancy lad rather than dispelling your delusion and bringing the conversation back down to earth, they're full of shit.

The last time a PhD really meant something was probably the '70s, when all the old masters were still alive. Anyone doing their PhD back then was doing it under someone who had done their own PhD under Heidegger or Natorp or some shit. That generation, of '60s to '70s PhD students, then presided over the death of academia. Nowadays if you have a PhD there's a good chance your advisor got their own PhD in 2003, already decades deep into totally fake dissertation topics being the norm.

>>20554118
Not an argument.