/lit/ - Literature

>>20543056
First for Hodgson

First for I Shall Seal the Heavens

>>20543056
I have been writing a novel for years set in the bowels of the earth, where giant drills house lots of people/machines. Anyone have any interest in this or info on how such communities might exist. Closest irl comparison I can think of is South African diamond mines.

>>20543075
Why don't you send out queries then post it here if it gets published? Otherwise, put it on some self-pub site.

Sage>>20543075
You got the wrong general, the writing general is this one >>20536420

>>20543075
You got the wrong general, the writing general is this one >>20536420

any good sci-fi or fantasy books where the focus is more on having a fun adventure and less on big plots? i don't mind there being an actual plot, i just want it to be secondary to the characters journey from unique location to unique location.

I've just started reading this, and Damn, this is way better than it has any right to be. I picked this up expecting a coomlit book about sexy robo girls, instead I got a damn good techno thriller. With sexy robo girls.
Essentially, the protagonist of this story is one of a very small number of people whose immune system would not accept neural enhancement, which has become completely ubiquitous. Long story short, this leads him to a career in dealing with advanced AI's (termed a Cipher), as his lack of neural enhancement enables him to work on buggy or hostile AI systems with no risk of them frying his brain remotely through implants.
He gets rather forcibly recruited by a new task force of the city police, to track down a stolen Mainfraim AI he helped develop.
Here's an excerpt that I really liked.
>“I’d struggle to call my situation accepted, but sure.” Nick shrugged. “I’ll talk with Rie about it. But that suggests that you’re not truly one huge collective. You’re still individuals, then?” “We have always been individuals. We are both unique, yet identical. Collectively, we then combine our experiences to form a greater whole that shapes us all.” That wasn’t really an answer. “No, I don’t think you get it. If you’re individuals, what happens if you disagree? I’m guessing you vote, right? Some sort of consensus protocol? That’s how the more complicated mainframe arrays work.” Nick raised an eyebrow, and the Archangels nodded. “Okay, so let’s take me. Some of your sisters disagreed to accept me as Cipher. What happens if they disagree so strongly that they choose to shoot me when I’m alone with them in some alleyway?” “The Host’s decisions are binding,” all four dolls intoned at once, but their tones were stressed. “Because, what, you voted on it? Were there Archangels who disagreed with that? When’s the last time you voted on that? Is there a piece of code implanted by Sigma Robotics to enforce it or something installed by a Cipher to prevent misbehavior?” Nick pressed them, curious how they’d push back. Suddenly, the eyes of all four dolls seemed to switch off. They remained active, but this was a sure sign they had reached out to the Host for assurance.

>>20543103
K.D. Robertson is wasting time on haremlit, he should try real fantasy/sci-fi.

>>20543075
Post a few chapters if you have it established somewhere. I thought I was a decent writer but found that I prefer editing and hurting people's feelings through constructive criticism.

>>20543096
This place does literary adventure fantasy.
https://www.beneath-ceaseless-skies.com

>>20543112
I mean, that book really IS real sci-fi. There's barely any harem in it, there's a few references to tits, and the main character repeatedly monologues about how odd it is that all these robots were made to look like hot chicks, but other than that it's just a straight up sci-fi thriller.

>>20543065
Wouldn't it suck if you were kidnapped one day by a cool beauty and made to join her cultivation sect haha?

>>20543123
I've read few books of his, the Heretic Spellblades series, and more than once I've said to myself:
"If there were no sex scenes, this book would be so much better".
He really knows how to write, but he made too many "lovers" in his books, so many that I no longer remember or care about most of them.
Also, in HS you can see that he likes the succubus more than the other girls

>>20543142
Yeah, I've read that one too. Honestly, this one is a whole lot better. I dropped HS sometime in the second book, not because of any huge problem with it, but because I went to bed one night and wasn't interested enough to pick it up again. The start was interesting, but it just meandered too much and introduced too many characters who got too little development to be interesting. Neural Wraith has dodged that problem entirely, with a much smaller cast and tighter focus.

where can I find a pdf of robot visions? I read it on novel 80 but it was missing the story “Christmas without rodney”.

Did you know there are actually good lit rpgs?

>>20543096

>On the other hand the act of procreation, being of a will and desire shared and indeed controlled by the fëa, was achieved at the speed of other conscious and willful acts of delight or of making. It was one of the acts of chief delight, in process and in memory, in an Elvish life, but its intensity alone provided its importance, not its time or length: it could not have been endured for a great length of time, without disastrous “expense”.

>But the act of procreation not being one of growth until the union of the seed and being under full control of the will does not take long -- though it is longer and of more intense delight in Elves than in Men: too intense to be long endured.

-The Nature of Middle Earth

Will Amazon show elf sex?

>>20543208
>Will Amazon show elf sex?
Off topic. Delete your post or die.

Making my way through The Thousandfold Thought lads. I'm so tempted to go straight on to the next series but will force myself to take a break. What should I read that is similar to Bakker? I've already read Malazan.

>>20543096
Try the first Lyonesse novel, 'Suldrun's Garden'.

>>20543086
thanks I forgot there was a writing general but it tends to be literary rather than sff

>>20543118
nah its just a file sitting on my comp
>>20543081
self-publishing is a meme, but better than nothing I guess

>>20543167
yes, but your chinaman picture is not related

>>20543285
>self-publishing is a meme
NPC mindset.

>>20543285
why would self-publishing be a meme? honest question

What are some sf/f books with lots of politics and scheming and backstabbing. The more convoluted the better. I've read Game of Thrones, Dread Empire and Second Apocalypse.

King of /sffg/

Simple as.

>>20543394
TRUTH SHINES

Any work of fiction that has absurd incomprehensibly large civilizations?
Just wanna see how people make these things work

>>20543502
Xianxia settings are all incomprehensible

Who's your favorite loli in a science fiction or fantasy story and why

>>20543103
>>20543142
Wait, you guys are talking about the guy who wrote the Heretic Spellblades series? That was one of the worst harem books I've read, and all non-harem parts were barely more trashy than the sex scenes (which were practically non-existent). That book is a usual wish-fulfilment, even more dogshit than the average litrpg webnovel. I cannot believe anyone would read it for its plot, I thought it's popular due to the scarce smut elements. Holy shit, go read some proper fantasy guys, don't waste your time on this shit, your understanding of what is a good story is disgustingly lacking.

>>20543502
There was a series about a group of problem solvers that would go around the galaxy who's careers were measured in how many turns of the galaxy they'd been at it. They were more or less human but would edit out their memories to keep from going mad but they could be backed up or restored. Such a setting implies an incomprehensible scale but the story only focuses on a few places because of course it does.

Don't remember what it was called but I recall the series as being OK but not great.

>>20543096
I like your foxes.

>>20543524
Why does this dog make me think of Abbie Emmons?

>>20543167
>Did you know there are actually good lit rpgs?
Depends on what you look for. The best story with LitRPG elements is The Wandering Inn, no question there. Most LitRPGs are power progression fantasy, but if you want something more, try Never Die Twice and Vaienquar The Dragon.

Anyone know this book?
>>>20539953

>>20543542
I'd recommend /r/books, /r/fantasy or some other subreddit about books.

>>20543522
>I cannot believe anyone would read it for its plot
I just wanted to try reading some haremlit, and this was one of the most suggested series.

>>20543569
Heretic Spellblade is pretty bad. Other anon is sperging out about nothing, it was just mediocre bad though, there's plenty of far worse series. I recommend Saving Supervillains if you want some fun haremshit. Neural Wraith is a huge step up from Heretic though.

>>20543502
Aer-ki Jyr's Sar Force

The series is also incomprehensible at 160+ 'books', somewhere around 18,000 pages compare with TWI at about 32,000 pages. If you want to read it I would recommend kindle unlimited.

Each 'book' is between 90 and 300 pages, but usually around a 110 page count. He cranked one out a month like clockwork for more than a decade. He's still going but things slowed down a bit in the past year or so. I imagine that sweet sweet kindle unlimited money would taper off with such a huge series as a ten year old book is probably not peaking and few people are going to pick up a series at book #163

>>20539953
Tastes like The Worthing Saga to me, but the gender seems a bit off.

>>20543524
Sounds interesting.
shame it doesn't go into detail.
Just can't seem to wrap my head around how a civ like that would work

>>20543600
Not it, but thanks anyway.

Anything like the Wool trilogy that's not hunger games/maze runner?

>>20543231
Read Black Company and Dread Empire, both by Glen Cook.

>>20543569
>I just wanted to try reading some haremlit, and this was one of the most suggested series.
Okay, I've been on a smut streak as of late so I can give some solid recommendations, though I don't which type of book you want:

Good Intentions - Hands down the best harem/erotic book I've read, the characters, the sex scenes, the plot...Genuinely good book all around. It's not some self-published stuff, it's from 2010~ so it's pretty polished. The only minus for you might be that the setting is in modern times of our world with fantasy elements.

Fimbulwinter - Decent book about a guy who was cheated on by his wife and then ran over by a car, then sent by a Nordic Godess into a fantasy world to protect her faithful (and beautiful) worshippers. A bit more intelligent than your average harem smut, deccent enough titilating aspects. Considered one of the best Harem books out there.

Blue Core - LitRPG with the protagonist being a Dungeon. How does he have sex then? Tentacles. Consentacles, as the readers call it. Good sex scenes, but the focus of the story is exploiting magic combined with the knowledge of science and technology, also kingdom building. Pretty good.

The Wild Wastes - Not great, but decent enough. The author is a known harem writer with a lot of books like these, with this one considering one of the better ones. Check it if you want something easy and light.

Fostering Faust - The best harem/smut trilogy writen by the author of The Wild Wastes in my opinion. Pretty good plot, somewhat psychopatic protagonist that makes binding deals for his Goddess, the more he gains from the deal the better it is. He of course uses it to have sex with women and bind them to his whims, but in much more interesting ways than you would think. Good even if you don't read it for the smut.

Hellcats - This one is pure porn. It doesn't even attempt to give a plot, just a guy hired to be a technician on a space-ship belonging to a female-only mercenary team. Turns out he's there to have sex with them. Suprisingly comfy and well-written.

Herald of Shalia - The most hilarious smut book I've seen, sometimes feels like a fever dream. Written by a woman, so female characters are much better than usually. Funny, witty, and it's about having fun by a guy who was sent to the fantasy world by an elf Goddess Shalia to protect her wroshippers. Turns out that yes, Elfs are hot as fuck.

>>20543542
Found it
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10814635-a-soldier-s-duty

>>20543696
(You) have posted the cover several times now, is this book any good? Sell me on it

>>20543714
It's a short trilogy and a fun read, imo. I first read it very early last decade and I've reread it again a few years back. It is the only book I've come across, e.g., where a noble savage (early book 2 spoilers) interacts with a literal suburban dad + his son and some of the writing by this guy hits me in certain feels-y spots. I liked this MC for his archetype more than I liked Karsa Orlong.

>>20543714
He spams it in every thread, just hide and report.

This smut better than it has any right to be, be it characters, plot or polish, worldbuilding is perhaps the weakest part with coercion, de jure, oaths and gods being a bit too inconsequential, or just not fully considered, still pretty good tho.

I didn't expect this level of quality when picking up what's essentially a smut novel at first glance.

>>20543729
I typically avoid Randi Darren because he gets bogged down in autistic base building.

>>20543728
I don't spam it in every thread at all, crossboarder.
>bawwww someone came to /lit/ to discuss books!

>>20543734
Not really the case here, at least not the first book, for the amount of attention warfare, and noble holdings by proxy, gets if anything the thought and effort that goes into it is a bit, but only a bit, lacklustre, not that that's much of a problem as the novel isn't really about that.

>>20543729
>>20543734
I relly liked Fostering Faust, even if I hoped for the protagonist to be more ruthless. It went too Gary Sue at the end, well, in both the second and third books to be honest, but it's still a good read. Apparently most of the author's books get bogged by base-building or some 'Runner' character that I know nothing of, supposedly this trillogy is good because he isn't in it. Still, the author's books are made out of one template, every harem has one sensitive, one that manages things etc. Not neccessarily a bad thing if you want something like the others.

Too bad he writes smut as Randi Darren and harem without sex scenes as William D. Arrand, but has less books as Randi Darren. His sex scenes are way above average.

>>20543750
>I don't spam it in every thread
Yes you do faggot. Every single thread you post it. No discussion, you just spam the picture.

>>20543836
Always sad when a newfag ousts himself, not knowing that archives exist.

>>20543729

>>20543138
his*
haha yeah...

>>20543511
Darling

>>20543633
Immaculate taste, anon
Ever read Tsun-Tsun TzimTzum? It's a personal favourite of mine (book 2 and onwards specially)

>>20543783
>more ruthless
I felt exactly the opposite way
Why do the MCs in these kind of books always end up being edgy cunts, except with their girls maybe
It's like a caricature of the "sigma" male, shit's not even funny

>>20543935
>I felt exactly the opposite way
>Why do the MCs in these kind of books always end up being edgy cunts
That's really not true unless you consider being willing to kill people at all as qualifier for "edgy cunt". Most haremlit, from what I've seen, feature fairly heroic, traditionally speaking, protagonists.

>>20543927
>Immaculate taste, anon
>Ever read Tsun-Tsun TzimTzum? It's a personal favourite of mine (book 2 and onwards specially)
I checked now and it's one of those I didn't read due to the reviews. If it's actually good, I'll add it to the reading list.

>>20543935
At this point I'm sure that Harem authors are just like romance writers, unable to write a book without the protagonist falling in love. Normally it just comes with the territory, but in Fostering Faust it was a bit grating as the protagonist is supposed to be cold, ruthless ex-CEO, but as soon as it gets to the good part of him exploiting the women, it starts turning into tsundere romance and him going all soft on the girls.

You know, I don't think men actually WANT to read stories when men exploit beautiful women sexually, ironically almost every erotic story written by a woman has the female protagonist being assaulted and liking it, or just forgiving the male love interest for forcing himself on her. Men writers? I'm convinced they don't want to write that, at all. It's women that want the rapey stuff, harem genre is all about soft guys being rewarded for being nice to women and 'not being like those assholes who disrespect them.' Every interaction where sex might be not fully consesual comes with million clauses explaining why the protagonist cares about the woman, or wouldn't do it if she wasn't onboard with it.

Recently, I've come to an poinion that those male protagonists who are written up as 'virtuous' are actually losers. Yes, it's obvious, you will say, they are intended to be losers most of the time. But listen, they aren't losers because they are weak, poor or have no power. They are weak because they resemble the mindset of the author or an average loser male, they would put up with anything a female does just to have a girlfriend or sex. There is no such thing as 'ugly' for them, there will be paragraphs upon paragraphs from the author how other men would throw away a pretty girl for X reason, but the mindset 'every girl is worth having' comes from deeply rooted craving for female company, man with such a minset is unable to understand why other man would decide to NOT be with a girl because to them just having one is extremely valuable, freedom of choice is something utterly alien to him.

>>20543986
I concur with your analysis. I have to add though that there's some authors who go in the opposite direction though, where the women are basically treated as possesions. I don't particularly like either. I like stories where there's interplay, where the dynamic is equal, but different. I've recommended Velise by Cebelius and Saving Supervillains (which I brought up earlier) by Bruce Sentar a couple of times in these threads for that reason. I can't stand main characters who simp.

>>20543986
You have multiple fundamental misunderstandings. For women it's about controlled fantasy in a safe environment. For men it's that the vast majority have empathy.

>>20544010
>You have multiple fundamental misunderstandings. For women it's about controlled fantasy in a safe environment. For men it's that the vast majority have empathy.

I don't think women wanting a safe environment contradicts what I wrote, it's an important part of the fantasy for them, but ti doesn't change the fact that women enjoy being pursued, especially if the male cannot stop himself on from forcing himself on the woman (in stories, not IRL (well, at least not for the majority)).

I assume by 'having empathy' you mean that for men the fantasy is that their empathy is rewarded? That's true, but it's also about the man being useful, being a hero to the community, build something for himself while having people (mostly women) who love him, while also protecting them from other men etc.

I wonder if there's a fantasy book where those elements aren't the focus, instead focus being on the sex itself, without harem aspects (even if there's group sex or multiple partners). Just a fantasy story where a guy/girl just has a lot of fun, without building a harem, while also experiencing a solid adventure (or some other story that doesn't have typical harem elements).

>>20544001
>I've recommended Velise by Cebelius and Saving Supervillains (which I brought up earlier) by Bruce Sentar a couple of times in these threads for that reason. I can't stand main characters who simp.
I've intended to read Velise and that other book for a long time now, but I genuinely hated his other book 'T.A.P.' Is it different than that one?

>>20544036
Velise is very different and focuses more on character than action. Specifically, both of the protagonists are older and much more intelligent, and they act upon the plot rather than react to it as the character do in TAP.
There's a scene fairly early on where the two of them are in a bar, discussing their working relationship and the nature of manipulation. If you read up to there and it doesn't click for you, you probably won't like it.
Also, the female protagonist is literally a giant spider, so you have to be able to accept that, too.

>>20543983
>heroic, traditionally speaking
I think that's my main problem with them though
Too often they read like the main characters of the raunchy Conan-like novelettes I used to read ages ago
At the risk of sounding like an SJW, I think that macho man type of character is a bit outdated
Like 60% of isekai harems have the main character being something like a hardened ex-marine divorced dad with a soft side, overly violent and ruthless with anyone who isn't under their favour, they don't really know neutrality (the MC of the Remnant series comes to mind as one of the most flagrant examples of this)

Now, if by "traditionally speaking" you meant a previous type of hero archetype, I'd agree with you for a lot of haremlits, but I feel like a good chunk of them fall under the category I just described

>>20543986
I mostly agree with what you're saying, but my complaint wasn't really about their interactions with their girls or harem, but rather their general attitude regarding the rest of the world and characters

Now, about the whole "women want the rapey stuff", ehh, I don't know about that one
I've read a bunch from both sides, and very rarely you find actual violent stuff, it's mostly control fantasies, the feeling of helplessness yet safety that these kinds of situations offer
Gender roles being what they've been for ages mean that a "good" chunk of the population will be inclined to have those kind of fantasies, this isn't about women having a "natural" proclivity to being masochistic fuck holes and men gentle beasts, it's the (unironic) consequence of toxic masculinity (the real deal one, not muh manspreading and shit like that)

>>20544047
>Also, the female protagonist is literally a giant spider, so you have to be able to accept that, too.
I wanted to read it solely because the girl was a spider desu

>>20544086
Well there's a good chance you like it then I'd say. I've read a bunch of the stuff Cebelius has written, and I think Velise is probably the best of the bunch. And I say that when talking about it from the perspective of an actual novel, not coomer lit. It was the first book he ever wrote that made me think he was wasting himself just writing borderline furry smut.

>>20543986
>If it's actually good, I'll add it to the reading list
First book is without a doubt the weakest one of the series but is still a decent foundation for the following volumes. I'd say it's pretty decently written, closest thing I've found in the genre to Good Intentions.
However, if you overly care about the smut and the sex scenes, you'll still like it a lot from the beginning.

>>20543387
because no one will ever read it?

rec me some books with female centaurs. preferably ones that fuck human men.

>>20544131
I'd argue that a lot of self publishing authors benefit from things like Kindle Unlimited whereas actually no one would read their works if they were traditionally published (think most litRPGs, isekais, haremlits etc)

>>20544151
A Spell for Chameleon by Piers Anthony.

>>20544151
>rec me some books with female centaurs.
Paths of the Chosen on Royalroad, it's a webnovel. Two books are written as for now. The guy thinks he's playing MMO, but in fact he's in a fantasy world through the machination of a goddess. A lot of sex and romance, the protagonist has sex with his centaur girlfriend a lot. As smut goes, this one is quite decent.

>>20543231
Last Dragon by JM McDermott

>>20544131
>because no one will ever read it?
One only needs to look at the self-published books at Amazon to realize how nonsensical that is, they are popular as fuck

>extroverted girl talks about the hot guy that she saw or slept with
>I close the book and never look back again
Is it common to dislike reading women lusting for men? I feel disgusted.

>>20544324
Dumb fucking frogposter

>>20544151
Some litrpg I read, maybe Jason Cheek's The World series has some light centaur romance, not the focus though.

>>20544332
I'm serious. I really feel disgusted when I read women doing shit like that. Is it normal?

>>20544391
Dumb fucking frogposter

>>20544391
Are you disgusted at the "she couldn't help dreaming about the pulsing veins of his rigidly stiff cock thrusting in and out of her quivering quim and squirting hot white lovebutter into her fertile womb" type of romance novel pornposting that some women write, or are you seriously complaining that you can't empathize with the idea that women have a contemplative and non-passive sexuality at all? Because if crude and vulgar erotic literature makes you uncomfortable, that's completely understandable, but if you're genuinely baffled by women having real feelings for other human beings then the problem is on your end, not the author's.

>>20544444
i'm intrigued by this argument

>>20544152
I guess I just think of the prestige value then. It's infinitely more valuable to have your work published in a magazine or by an established press, at least at face value; people might be willing to read/review published works. Self-published works are full of crackpots because theres no peer review, so you will have to gamble on popularity and willpower for it to make any impact
>>20544276
I dont know how true that is. There are popular self-published books, sure, but out of how many unpopular ones?

I'm writing a story about humanity conquering death and science allows for unlimited rebirths.

What terrible social issues would happen in such a world? With the consequences of death removed will people be lazier and less willing to breed? Doomposting at an all time high? Constant wars?

>>20544502
You seem unaware that much has been written about immortal societies over many decades.

How does this general feel about Dune?

>>20544444
>genuinely baffled by women having real feelings for other human beings then the problem is on your end
Guess I need to see the doctors then

>>20544031
It's fantasy. It's more about the emotions involved than the sex itself. It's also about indulging in the taboo, transgressive, and the unacceptable for enjoyment. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's specific situations that's under control by the author and understood by the reader. As you noted, it may have little no correlation with real life. Ultimately the woman is still in control and has agency. It's similar to BDSM which is more about power dynamics than sex and that the submissive often has more control over what happens.

First off I have to note that I have never read haremlit and don't have interest. If I wanted to read about sex, I'd read erotica that's entirely about the sex.
As for the empathy I meant that most men don't want to read rape because it feels bad but also don't want to usually read long term courting so it usually goes to just "I like you, you like me, let's have sex". That's a compromise.

I confess I don't understand why you want something that's 50% explicit sex and 50% standard fantasy. It sounds more like the woman is just for validation, or a fuckbuddy. It's quite the mix of companionship with benefits but without intimacy or romance.

>>20544621
A doctor won't be able to help your condition.

>>20544650
>If I wanted to read about sex, I'd read erotica that's entirely about the sex.
>I confess I don't understand why you want something that's 50% explicit sex and 50% standard fantasy
nta, what if someone's a degenerate pervert who finds the context in which sex happens more exciting than the actual sex part?

any of you read singularity sky

>>20544708
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia
There are certainly those for example who become so sexually aroused by shoes that having sex with person wearing them is just a bonus as the person is just an extension of the shoes.

Without more detail I can't really say much more. Sexuality is all over the place. It's not neat or easily categorized.

>>20544621
There are two possible diagnoses:
1. You're suffering from 4chan rot, which turns otherwise healthy minds into ironic-unironic-ironic post-ironic contrarian retards. The cure for this is to stop spending all your time on /r9k/, go for a walk, play video games, read a book, watch tv with your parents, shop for groceries or t-shirts, ride a bike, do fucking anything that isn't getting angry at shitposters and shills on 4chan.
2. You're a solipsistic NPC, in which case the only cure is cyanide or a bullet. I hope my first diagnosis is the correct one.

>>20544708
>>20544781
It's actually about immersion - simple enough to understand when you think about it. It's easier to imagine and be excited by a sex scene that's part of the story that you are already immersed in than it is by a block of text that has ero content but no context to make it interesting. Plus having already established characters add interest to the scene in the same way having emotional weight makes combat, especially personal combat, more exciting in well written books as it's often expression of characters and their relationship/conflict and not just sword goes wooosh. Of course it's not often that it's taken complete advantage of but it's always there.

>>20544575
it's good and it's better if you read the rest of the books

Genuine question here bros, whats the appeal of this litrpg shit? It all looks like utter trash.

>>20544735
yes

>>20544799
Demisexuality

>>20544799
Then why is most porn almost completely context-free?
>>20544781
As far as I can tell, for me it's mostly about the scene being immersive, as the other anon says. Not about specific things, body features, or activities. The more authentic and believable it is, the hotter. Anyway, this just elaborating on
>I don't understand why you want something that's 50% explicit sex and 50% standard fantasy

>>20544864
probably the same as an RPG videogame, it provides regular clearly-specified dopamine releases

>>20544566
Any immortal society recs, Anon?

>>20544877
If you want "authentic and believable" then I'm sure there are plenty of erotic romance novels that do that. You want fantasy that pretends to be as such.

need a sci-fi that comments on masculinity and the explores the topic of masculinty in the 22nd century.

>>20544781
I don't think this is relevant for the current conversation unless the book is specifically catering to a certain fetish (I've noticed that beastgirls is a pretty popular example at the moment)
For me it's all about the build up, the way the characters interact, banter, tease, react to each other's actions
Most of the time I'll just skim through the actual sex
But the whole way until that point makes me feel certain things (not exactly/only arousal)

>>20544910
>>20544875

>>20544877
>Then why is most porn almost completely context-free?
Because it's cheap an easy? Same reason most action movies are reduced to !!!EXLOSIONS!!!! without much context or reason, works especially well for younger audiences or people who just want to check out and relax. But unlike porn which got sound and visuals to work with text has to go further to really make things work, besides even with porn there are lots of specialised sites that cater to fetishes if you are looking for something really good and not just a quick jerk off. Not to mention Hentai and HGames are popular precisely because they often offer things traditional porn does not, similar to Vtubers vs just hot chicks doing twitch streams.

>>20544910
That sounds like being much more interested in foreplay and the emotional/psychological aspects than anything physical. A quick search finds a lot of people asking about that.

>>20544868
your thoughts?

>>20544864
For some folks it's the feel of video games, i.e. nostalgia and other associated feelings. But nowadays there are enough people who read them that it's entirely became it's own genre and aquired taste. It's easier to write in some ways as it allows you to convey things like power levels and rules directly to reader plus you can get lots of words without putting much effort into it. Few actually make genuine use of the genre by exploring repercussions of such system being part of the world tho.

>>20544890
And why not have fantasy setting instead of contemporary setting for it? Everyone has their preferences, especially when it comes to entertainment and escapism.

>>20544890
>I'm sure there are plenty of erotic romance novels that do that.
Yeah I wish I was able to find them reliably. Most stuff is fake and gay (figuratively), pandering to a specific audience/fetish in a way that most certainly does not feel authentic.
Plus having a fantastic setting broadens your options.

>>20544920
I'm still interested in sex, but not in that medium
I prefer some literotica/AO3 short-ish stories for that, I'm not reading 2k pages to fap every time there's a sex scene, as hot as it may be

>>20544939
I'm not going to expansively talk about a book I read 17 years ago in response to basically no prompting. At the time I thought it was absolutely amazing and Accelerando was even better (Iron Sunrise is middling). Are you asking for a recommendation? Sure, go for it.

>>20545003
>I'm not going to expansively talk about a book I read 17 years ago in response to basically no prompting.
ok. then kill yourself

>reading sex books
>skips all the sex
Amazing

https://youtu.be/Yqb0GhRhU88?t=508
Any sci-fi book for this feeling?

>>20543393
Give Dune a go

>>20545046
Kill yourself.

>>20545021
They're not sex books though, just books with sex

i seriously hate mexican authors so much bro's...

>>20545100
then don't read them???? i'm mexican and have never read any book by a mexican

>>20544575
All in all, i enjoy having read it, but the act of reading itself wasnt so enjoyable.
There are a lot of great ideas and concepts in it that can provide a lot of food for thought and idle wondering later on, but the books themselves get extremely tiresome with every character constantly making veiled hints at their gigabrain 7d chess plots within plots within plots. The first book keeps things pretty reasonable in that regard, but later on i just gave up trying to understand once it became clear that there is nothing to understand and it is all just fluff leading up to the inevitable "just according to keikaku" in the end.
Also, as the series progresses, Herbert starts making more and more questionable decisions, like suddenly making sex a weapon to conquer the galaxy, turning Tleilaxu into something utterly ridiculous, skipping over a whole pivotal battle, and introducing bloody chairdogs.
In conclusion, 10/10, its alright

>>20545129
Why are you replying to a shitposter? Are you mentally retarded?

>>20545021
me when I read euphoria

>>20544864
Imagine a world where everyone knew how to succeed in life and come out with strength that wasn’t based on something else, inner power. Also the dopamine hits hard.

>>20545144
how would i know he is a shitposter

>>20545189
>how would i know he is a shitposter
Are you really that stupid that you can’t tell a shitposter?

>>20545189
>how would i know he is a shitposter
They're pretty easy to tell apart, anon.

>>20544575
>dune
amazing
>messiah
eh
>children
lol
>god emperor
memes
>the rest
don't care

>>20545201
educate me, wise anon
provide a summary of the signs outing him as a shitposter

>>20545133
>but later on i just gave up trying to understand once it became clear that there is nothing to understand and it is all just fluff leading up to the inevitable "just according to keikaku" in the end.
what do you mean by this?

Help /sffg/ I broke myself and all I want is a novel-length fanfic about someone isekai’ing as Obi-Wan and trying to prevent Anakin from going dark.

>>20545235
>what do you mean by this?
That later on, I just gave up trying to understand once it became clear that there is nothing to understand, and it is all just fluff leading up to the inevitable "just according to keikaku" in the end.

Star Wars is Harry Potter for boys.

>>20545241
And genre fiction is for children. What’s your point?

>>20545213
>don't care
chud

god emperor > dune = children = heretics > chapterhourse = messiah

>>20545238
that makes no sense but okay

>>20545244
>Children better than Messiah
Come on man

>>20545237
That probably exists already in some form or another on AO3.

what distinguishes magical realism from fantasy?

>>20545366
You can easily google the answer. Hell, you can even search it up on Wikipedia. I don't know why you even asking this.

>>20545372
because i wanted to ask in a forum about scifi & fantasy

If rebbit didn't suck Brandon Sanderson's dick and he was relatively unknown /sff/ would stan him as hard as they do Bakker. You guys just hate anything popular lol

>>20545382
Well, you can ask a search engine, and it would give you an answer within seconds.

>>20545366
Ethnicity, which was decided by those who decide.

>>20545386
Popularity isn't the primary issue, nor even Reddit.

>>20545272
No, wait, let's listen. He has a point. He may even be right. It's more likely than you think.

>>20545250
It's means once you decide to not take it so seriously one can enjoy more.

>>20545411
elaborate on your issues with him

>>20545428
that makes no sense but okay

>>20545428
that makes no sense but okay

>>20543056
The /t/ thread can be linked to the archive or copypasted into a site or just delete it. The Discord nonsense can be removed as well.

>>20545404
The jews.

>>20545435
I don't have any issues with him, others do.

>>20545437
>>20545438
Exactly, it makes no sense, but okay.

>>20545272
the death of alia sequence in children was kino

>>20545349
I’ve found loads of “after dying on the Death Star Obi-Wan wakes up during TPM and tries to stop Anakin from falling” but no isekai.

>>20545500
Why does it specifically have to be some person you self-insert, or literally you, who takes over his body and displacing his mind? That isn't what Isekai even means. How about you do this instead: lay on your bed, close your eyes, and imagine your story, visualize it even. Whatever. Don't expect someone to appeal your extremely niche fantasies though.

Vernor Vinge, Stephen Baxter, Peter Watts, Alastair Reynolds, Greg Egan.

>>20545546
That is indeed a random list of SF authors.

>>20543393
Acacia by David Anthony Durham is pretty good in that aspect. Also the Shadowmarch series by Tad Williams, both for fantasy. For scifi probably the Deathstalker series by Simon Green.

>>20543502
Iain M Banks, "Matter". Lots of gigantic space habitats with each containing hundreds of billions of sentient creatures and huge onion like shell worlds.

>>20544151
The Titan, Wizard and Demon trilogy by John Varley has more human-centaur sex than you will ever want or need. The dude drew up actual frigging diagrams in the book to show all the possibilites of interspecies sex.

I'm having a really hard time visualizing Redmask's rygtha crescent axe in Reaper's Gale on page 96. It's driving me nuts. If any anon here, can explain what this is actually supposed to look like, that would be great. The picture I've attached doesn't strike me as fitting the description in the actual book. In the book the planes of the crescent blades are described as being perpendicular (not parallel) to each other. This strikes me as not only being useless in combat, but also impossible to carry which is clearly not the case because Redmask has it strapped to his thigh.

>>20545711
like this?

>>20545711
Why didn't you just post the relevant text?

>>20545711
?

>>20545711
Are you autistic?

>>20545890
Did you just ask me if I'm autistic?

>>20545912
Were you just asked if you were autistic?

This is such a shit thread.

>>20545944
That's what happens without thorough vetting of members.

>>20543167
By sheer chance there's got to be at least one good one out there in a probabilistic sense, but it's probably gone complete ignored and/or forgotten because only lowest common denominator trash gets marketed and bought by idiots with shit taste.

Achamian is a fat cuck!

>>20545957
*with. Sffg is just goodreads reviews/retard posting, with the occasional guy screaming nigger and getting jannie'd for it.

>>20546276
shut up nigger

>>20546276
So was the last thread the exception?

>>20544864
Most litRPGs follow a formula of
(1) Character does X (usually a quest) or some random shit
(2) Character gets stats and numbers from leveling, they always go up
(3) Character gets items with more stats and numbers, they always go up
(4) rinse & repeat

Throw in some waifu for harem, shipping, sex scenes, whatever and that's like 99% of all litRPGs.

The main appeal is a lot of chapters end on cliffhangers where 1 chapter is player kills a monster, next chapter player levels up and distributes points or decides on what skill/build, and then they get items and loot. There's an appeal for a lot of readers to see stats and numbers go up. I mean, look at the recent shitshow on One Piece about power levels and whether X character is worthy of being part of Y group cause they're trash. Power levels appeal to a certain demographic, and throwing concrete numbers helps the dopamine hit.

I've yet to read a well written litRPG. It's hard to not see the obvious self-insert power fantasy like a japanese LN, or the asspull "surprise skill!" ass-pull to save the day. Even highly recc'd stuff like The Wandering Inn is hit or miss at best, and while it's certainly among of (if not the) best in its genre, it's not saying much.

>>20546369
>I've yet to read a well written litRPG
The only one I think that could really qualify is Dungeon Crawler Carl, but in this case the RPG systems are literally fake, simply a contrivance of a bunch of aliens using the characters as fodder in a reality TV death game. They exist in the sense that the aliens use sufficiently advanced technology to make them exist, but it's still not "real".

>>20546369
Most litrpg is written by complete amateurs who are probably underage, they are interested in game mechanics and nothing else (story, plot, characters dont matter), there is no formula.

>>20546393
Maybe by volume, but most top litrpgs are written by genxers. You can tell by the pop culture pulls

>>20546398
Are you aware that the youngest Gen X'er is 40+ now?

>>20546411
Yes?

>>20546398
what top litrpg? Top in sense that it actually has literary merit and writing is not bad (focus on story, characters and plot while magic system is just expressed in numbers) or that it is rated highly on royalroad or similar website (rated by people who have never in their life read an actual good novel, sff or not) ?

>>20546418
Your assertion seems unlikely then.

So I got really excited by chapter 1 of this, which put me right in the middle of things with just the right amount of not knowing what's going on or how things work to set the hook. It pulled back from that though and despite a few good turns it never made quite as much as the necromancer in a time loop premise promised. Volume 2 was a step down. But I've seen authors improve so I'll give v3 a shot, just in case.

>>20546461
No there are loads of them

>>20546470

>>20546448
If you don't like it, just don't read it. I'm not going to sell it to you. But every subgenre is going to have a hierarchy of things that get read and things that don't.

>>20546487
Oh a genre snob. Go whine to outer /lit/.

>>20545386
Being unpopular wouldn't make the quality of the writing any less mediocre.
lol

>>20546448
>Top in sense that it actually has literary merit
You do know you're reading genre fiction, right? No genre book, save for an extremely few, have any literary merit. It feels like you're just trying to posture for anonymous people online. Which is both sad and pathetic

>>20546510
>>20546448
you're both room-temp-IQ abortion survivalists

>>20545731
This wouldn't work because both ends of the haft have a single three-quarter-moon iron blade also described as a crescent.
>>20545736
This was what I originally thought was being described. However, newly discovered evidence (see the attached Lego image) is quite compelling. This is also much less retarded as a weapon. This is now my current head cannon for what a rygtha is unless some anon has a better idea.
>>20545890
This is a strong possibility.

>>20546483
Ok, he is, but he had his first novel traditionally published at 28, which surely makes him an outlier.

>>20545858
>This was what I originally thought was being described.

>>20546535
Most of the Russians are older, and tons of Americans too. Whenever you see Monty Python + 80s TV references it's a tell. I'd say in the past 2 or 3 years authors have skewed younger.

>>20546522
Was meant for:
>>20545858
This was what I originally thought was being described. However, newly discovered evidence (see the attached Lego image ) is quite compelling.
This is also much less retarded as a weapon. This is now my current head cannon for what a rygtha is unless some anon has a better idea.

Characters in xianxia are fine with people getting casually ripped apart and turned to ash but flip out over seeing a round cauldron inside a square cauldron

>>20545736
Sorry. Here it is:
>he shook free the rygtha crescent axe from the over-under strips of rawhide that had held it against his hip. A thick haft, as long as a grown man's thigh bone, to which each end was affixed a three-quarter-moon iron blade, their planes perpendicular to each other.

>>20546490
I like it when there is a focus on a story and characters, regardless if magic system is litrpg or not, however I have seen several highly "ranked" litrpg stories which are mainly game mechanics with some story telling elements, obviously thats objectively garbage.

>>20546510
I am not asking for Tolkien tier literature, just aim for a good consistent story, research and slowly build characters, spend time writing interactions and dialogue, sadly most highly litrpg authors are incapable of that.

>>20546584
It's not obviously objective garbage. Some people are good a writing game mechanics and magic systems, but not so good at characters. Isaac Asimov's Foundation is a prime example of this and remains a classic.

>>20546550
So you're saying that it's a lot of failed authors taking advantage of the situation. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

>>20546617
I'm saying it's a lot of DMs and WoW guild masters who find their moment has come.

>>20546617
Right now, though, you may be right. Perennial c-listers Kevin J Anderson and Simon Archer have hopped on the litrpg bandwagon now so maybe the end is nigh.

>>20546622
Sounds like a good thing.

What are your favorite loli's in science fiction or fantasy?

>>20543056
Anyone has the political spectrum version of prince of nothing?

>>20546748
Kys pedo freak.

>>20546635
>Kevin J Anderson
What's wrong with him? I've read The Saga of Seven Suns and it was mildly entertaining.

sci fi that explores the topic of sexuality and gender in the 22nd century? my exam is this july

>>20546793
Stop baiting you retard.

>>20546793
I miss when bait was refined and subtle.

>>20546797
just rec please. i'm not baiting.

anything that explores topics pertaining to masculinity in the 22nd century and beyond.

>>20546792
Eh. He's a write to market guy. "Was mildly entertaining" is a bullseye for him.

>>20546806
No, and get a life instead of baiting.

>>20546807
I've only read his Star Wars shit. He's the ultimate midtier.

>>20546807
>He's a write to market guy.
Yeah, no shit, that's literally every writer that writes science fiction or fantasy.

>>20546811
you first.

>>20546811
>>20546775
>>20546797
Why do (You) have to be so toxic?
This hate can't be good for you. Just live and let live. You need to learn to tolerate your brothers.

>>20546748
>favorite loli's
Actually, kill yourself, you sick freak.

>>20546819
No, that's very obviously not the case. Take literally any hugobait for example, there's absolutely no market for the tripe they put out, but they still write it.

any sci fi that philosphises around sexuality at all? forget the 22nd century part for now.

any that talks about extended and unusual sexualities in a respectful and serious way?

>>20546837
The Vorkosigan saga does, but it does it in the very naive, 80's feminist sort of way. Not the outright screeching misandry you get today, but it comes across as very sheltered and idealistic.
I particularly enjoyed Ethan of Athos, purely because Ethan basically says decides women suck and he's going back to the gay planet at the end.

>>20546793
>>20546837
Just study instead of wasting your time here.

>>20546845
awesome, thanks bro.

>>20546837
>respectful

>>20546845
The casual hermaphroditiphobia every character has is funny

>>20546835
>Take literally any hugobait for example
Already know not to reply to you seriously.

>>20546867
seething

>>20546871
No, but keep telling yourself that.

^^ yeah so i have a problem with you , seething or not it doesn't matter , you should respond to posts with more content in your posts. i am not that anon, but please be more considerate of what you are contributing to the general, the quality of posts is extremely important to the community that we have here, small that it may be, its important to retain a level of decency to keep the positive atmosphere in check. if you find that a difficulty you can look at leaving for boards that are more your speed, including but not limited too
/trash/, /b/, /lgbt/, /v/

>>20543070
Don't know if you're here or not, but I can't believe you called it within 3 posts.

>>20546827
why cant you leave little girls alone?

>>20546835
>Take literally any hugobait for example, there's absolutely no market for the tripe they put out, but they still write it.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean other people dislikes it as well.

hurrr durrr muh age of consent.

>>20546933
The fact that none of it sells is a pretty good indication that other people don't like it either.

>>20546933
It’s pointless to argue with him.

>>20546938
some people write for fun and to express themselves. not everyone is in it make oodles of money

>>20546952
So what you're saying is they aren't writing to market. Which is exactly the point I was making, you absolute carrot.

>>20546956
except your point is that selling = people liking it, which is wrong

>>20546937
Save everyone the trouble, and just kill yourself before hurting children, you freak.

>>20546959

>>20546503
I said people here don't like him because he is popular, not because his writing is bad. sff loves tons of mediocre writers. Gene Wolfe is pretty much the only good writer in the sff genre. So mediocre writing doesn't turn off /sff/

>>20546963
what are you talking about?

>>20546973
youre assuming im the same anon that you started this argument with

>>20546975
>not because his writing is bad
Sandersons writing IS bad. A bad writer who isn't poplar isn't going to bother people, because they lack influence and cannot set market trends. A bad writer who IS popular is much worse, because they inspire even more bad writing, they set the trend. Therefore hating him based on his popularity is completely justified. Nobody would care is he was just some autist writing tomes being released on kindle unlimited simply because in that case he wouldn't be making everything else worse by association.

>>20547001
Excerpt seems alright.

>>20547001
This doesn't read any better than chinese webnovel translations lamo.

>>20547012
>Excerpt seems alright.

>>20546930
Why do you feel the need to protect fictional characters from people thinking thoughts you don't like?

>>20547018
>Wojack
Go back to /qa/.

So, who’s the pedo and why is he constantly shitting up the thread with his pedophilia??

hurr durr she isn't menopausal therefore you are a pedophile.

>>20546975
>people here don't like him because he is popular
You do realize that a lot of us gave him a fair chance, right? I loved the first two Stormlight Archive books. I still don't like Brandon Sanderson. The quality of his writing is all over the place. It's like he doesn't even have an editor. The last time I had this experience with a writer was in the 90s with Terry Goodkind. It's not just a matter of being contrarian anon. Brandon Sanderson isn't popular here because people feel like they can freely speak up here. This is something that I personally don't believe is possible on most websites for most topics anymore.

>>20546470
Book 3 is average to mediocre.

>>20547083
Just ignore him, jannies usually remove his posts and ban him.

>>20547076
why do you feel the need to fantasize about underage children?

>>20547288
Because he’s sick in the head, anon. Just ignore him.

>>20547295
>Just ignore him.
that's how children get raped, silence is violence anon

>>20546571
Because fengshui, fag

>>20546937
You'd probably feel differently if you were ass raped by a fat, hairy, ugly loser like yourself as a child.

>>20547300
Then report him, pretty sure the jannies have a zero-tolerance on his shit.

>>20547300
Yes, will somebody think of the anime children

>>20547337
>>>/b/loli
>>>/b/cub
>>>/b/shota
Not to mention the catalogs on most boards include non nude loli, about 30% of >>>/a/ >>>/c/ but also on just about every board including >>>/g/

4chan is a lolicon site. It always has been, it always will be. It is literally only the moral fag mods and jannies on /lit/ that are banning non lude loli images or discussion of loli content. Hell half the 404 and 405 images are loli and a good percentage of the offical 4chan banners including some that are simply cropped from hard core loli henti.

>>20547300
Not even to conflate lolicons with pedophiles, most actual pedophiles never rape or molest a child. Almost all cases of child rape or molestation are done by non pedophiles, they are opportunistic abusers who are primarily attracted to adults, they are usually related to the victims.

Being a pedophile is not a crime, loli is legal in the US loli in literature is a valid topic of discussion in >>>/lit/ loli images are allowed site wide, only loli porn is restricted to >>>/b/

That said mods here are notorious for not giving a fuck what the rules actually are and boot lickers like you deserve the rope.

Jesus Christ, why the fuck does /sffg/ have to suffer for this?

Jesus fucking Christ, the absolute state of this thread. Just end /sffg/ now. Mods, nuke it.

>>20547326
not if i loved him. rape is rape though.

>>20547083
Report and ignore him mate. We're all sick of his antics.

>>20547452
Because you ban legitimate discussion.

>>20547436
Yeah but your shit is clearly not welcome in this thread. Make your own thread and leave the rest of us out of it. Even the Christposters with their obvious agenda are better citizens here than you creeps.

erm. why are we discussing this?

>one of the main characters in larry niven's known space is a cuck

>>20547512
>>20547485

>>20547414
Oh god, why did I click on that?

>>20547469
Last thread was great, don’t know why this thread went to shit.

>>20547666
Nice get

I think it started when someone told the lolicon to kill himself.

>>20547697
No, it started when the pedo tries to force his bullshit in a thread clearly not welcome

>>20547735
And how is that post in violation of any rule. Telling a poster to kill themselves is not permitted except perhaps on /b/. If the thread goes to shit I blame the posters who violate the rules. You can ignore and hide the post. Hell there is functionality baked right in the site to automate it, you don't need a plugin or anything.

>>20547735
jesus christ, anon, follow the advice >>20547485

>>20544502
More intrafamial conflicts and sibling rivalries due to increased size of families vying for power (or parent's love, or what-have-you). Also, neglected but entirely volatile middle-children in families of 8+.

>>20546470
Would you recommend others to start reading it?

>>20547759
>implying mods actually care about the rules
They literally only ban people for offending them and breaking US law. You can troll and spam endlessly so long as the hypocrites don't like the people you're trolling and after you've spammed their threads to death, they'll ban the OP of the thread

>>20547849
Not him, but no. It falls off pretty quick and there’s other series that does timeloops betters.

more inflitrated conflicts are occuring on my space channels, 45 lizards on live, new order conference call.

>>20547001
I mean, it doesn't seem like he's really trying. The dialogue does have some awkward interjections but otherwise it's serviceable. Otherwise I can get over the lack of "beautiful prose" under the assumption he's just driving the story forward. That's all that matters to some people. I guess it depends what one values in writing.
>t. someone who's never read Sanderon and is impartial

>>20547884
To some people, prose is everything.

>>20546073
And an egregious blasphemer. He deserves the worst.

>>20547859
The only other timeloop story I read was mother of Learning. Been interested in the concept ever since.

>the deusuer was born on the eve of the first day of the first Sester in Queloe, at the base of the dreaded mounting which the King of the Kynthins lives.

Translation

>The sorcerer was born in the evening of the first day of the first week of August, at the base of a mountain where the dragon king lives.

Why do authors do this

>>20547932
The same reason women name their kids Gryfyn or Jadelyn, they think it makes them original.

>>20547932
>Why do authors do this
Because they think people prefer the first one when in actually, readers prefer the latter.

>>20547932
>>20547953
I prefer fantasy to be spoken in the modern language rather than some faux-middle English bullshit.

>>20547957
I like a lot of Martinisms in ASOIAF

>>20547957
Whyfor doth thou protest? Forlorn am I to be scorned such a curse ye place upon me, my crime; waxing elegant.

>>20547957
ill take faux english over modern slang any day

>>20547957
>I prefer fantasy to be spoken in the modern language rather than some faux-middle English bullshit.
Same, I've yet to see an author who writes in a faux-middle English do it correctly.

>>20547965
Lit respect senpai.

>>20547961
They’re passable, although just barely.

>>20547932
>Why do authors do this
From what I can gather, its to make their stories seem more original, though, in my opinion, it makes them unoriginal, and another, I presume, is to spruce up, what is admittedly, average or below-average descriptions.

>>20548007
I think it's worth a mention that when done well use of non-standart lexicon can be useful to denote a character as particularly (un)educated, or standing out in some way, alternatively it can be used as world building, trough use of proverbs, phrases, and other irregular expressions that reflect the state of the world, additionally it can be used to stress dificulty of adapting to fish out of water scenarios for viewpoint characters. Rarely is it used well and most authors, I think, would be just fine using regular english, while avoiding phrases that are more tied to modern culture, unless there's in story reason to use them.

>>20547957
How far this general has fallen. I remember when this thread had real fantasy fans posting in it, not zoomers

>>20547953
I prefer the first one.
t. vancefag

>>20547953
Well put.

>>20548022
You mean when threads were nothing but the bakker spammer talking to himself for days on end? Or when the threads would drop off page 10 with 15 posts?

>bakker spammer
Honestly a total myth that its all one guy posting about The Second Apocalypse. I know there is at least two of us.

>>20548041
There’s no point in responding to them, you know this right?

Last thread was great, shame the follow up was shit.

>>20548041
At least Bakkerposting is actually discussion of fantasy literature. Not like this disgusting lolicon/anime fuckhead.

>>20548076
Literally the same guy, he's just changed topics because he's been getting banned for reposting retarded non-discussion bakker shit.

>>20548076
Why do you lie?

>>20548058
>Confirmed cucks:
I'm about a third of the way through Thousandfold Thought. Is that how many times he cucks Acha specifically or is there more varied cuckholding to come?

>is there more varied cuckholding to come?
This thread just keeps plummeting, somehow.

>>20548089
Then why haven't you left?

>>20546571
a cauldron you say

>>20547897
I came to dislike Sanderson not because of the prose, but because everything he does is by the numbers.
Character <X> has personality trait <Y>, therefore we have a bunch of scenes that demonstrate it. Then he's supposed to have some character development, so we have a bunch more scenes that take him from <Y> to <Z>. It's painfully clear that he really sat down with the intent to go from Y to Z, probably made an outline, and then filled in the gaps. Entirely workmanlike, no understanding of subtlety at all.
He's also way less smart than he thinks he is and has only a very surface-level understanding of science and engineering, which is very obvious from his attempts to make "scientific" magic systems.

>>20548095
I've been here too long. Only seems right to go down with the ship.

>>20548146

This exactly. The shitty "GraphicAudio" audio books makes the pacing so fucking blatant because they change the god dammed canned music to try to set the mood. Oh this is the exciting time, this is the heartfelt time, this is the goofy time. It all runs like clockwork and the story was set down by someone who decided what the formula for a good book was and fleshed out the key plot movements and had some shitty team of ghost writers fill in the blanks like he drew the key frames and had crappy animators just fill in the fluff. Cant go more than x many pages without conflict, must show soft side of character with fill in the blank science here. And once you notice it you cant not notice it and I cant fucking stand it.

Orson Scott Cards later books have a similar formulaic feel.

Nothing feels organic, nothing feels genuine. It's just so uninspiring.

>>20546750
no but I have this

>>20548098
based

>>20546775
>>20546830
lolicon-friendly website, you fucking election tourists

Also it's pretty telling that to you only thing of interest pertaining to children is SEX, SEX, SEEEEEEEX, RAPE, FUCKING, SMUT, PONOS IN VAGOO.
There's the thing called maternal/paternal instinct. A lot of people read shit like Yotsubato to vicariously live the ideal life of a parent.
For fuck's sake Yotsuba is the site mascot, but you fucking newfaggots know nothing about it.

>>20547554
get your mind out of the gutter

>>20547932
Its fine, the problem arises when they actually speak like current year americans or worse canadians

>>20548357
>There's the thing called maternal/paternal instinct.
Obviously that only applies to my own children, non related children are fine

>>20548440
Yotsubato was a massive commercial success, so you are obviously wrong.

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>>20547930
The Perfect Run is a good timeloop series. Better than the Menocht Loop.