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what is the best book about the history and the culture of Philippines? I'll be there soon and I want to know more about Pinoy culture.
also use this thread to share your best books about SEA.

>> No.20529069

test

>> No.20529087

>>20529060
Ambeth Ocampo probably

>> No.20529106

Fun fact: Jose Rizal was the father of Dostoevsly, Hitler and Mao Zedong.

>> No.20529109

>>20529060
Nothing worth reading, watching, listening, or eating from this monkey country

>> No.20529116

>>20529060
>ill be here soon

Which part, which province or city?

>> No.20529120

>>20529116
Probably an overweight spic teacher

>> No.20529575

>>20529087
I'll check him out
>>20529109
don't be so hard flipbro
>>20529116
Manila and Borocay island, nothing crazy. I'll be there with my gf.

>> No.20529595

>>20529575
Yikes

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>>20529575
>I'll be there with my gf.

>> No.20529614

>>20529060
None

>> No.20530327

bump

>> No.20530379

Where's that nigga who was gonna post a Filipino-Spanish literature chart?

>> No.20530433

>>20529069
The results came back, you're HIV positive.

>> No.20530567

>>20529106
I thought this was a shitpost wtf

>> No.20530571

>>20529109
>listening
Beast Jesus, but they are lefties on steroids.

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>>20529060
Some special history books off the top of my head; not all are "crucial" or even "good" in the moral sense but are nonetheless substantial:
Sobre la indolencia de los filipinos, an essay by Jose Rizal on the racial indolence of the Filipino , caused by colonialism
White Love by Vicente Rafael, a great book on how the Philippines sucks American dick in a very special way
The more popular books by Renato Constantino or Vicente Rafael
Conjugal Dictatorship, how Marcos is corrupt (author himself plus his son was killed by Marcos soldiers)
Ambeth Ocampo like that one anon said because all the zoomers like him for a good reason

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>>20531571
Filipino philosophy books, written by Filipino philosophers, figuring out what Filipino philosophy *is*:

Glimpses into my Beginning (Sulyap sa Aking Pinanggalingan), by Roque Ferriols
State of Philosophy in the Philippines, by Emerita Quito
Elements of Filipino Philosophy, by Leonardo Mercado
Filipino Philosophy Today: A Source Book in Teaching Filipino Philosophy, by Florentino Timbreza
Filipino Philosophy: Traditional Approach, by Rolando Gripaldo

Should you buy any one of these books please find the time to upload copies in libgen/z-lib pls, we Filipinos are deprived of accessible local literature

>> No.20531613

>>20531604
btw since Marcos's son Bongbong's president now, you should read Marcos's selected essays and books from him. I am not a Marcos supporter at all but it helps to be two steps ahead.

>> No.20532488

>>20531571
>>20531604

You started off good with Rizal then you unironically suggested Rafael and Constantino, two leftists who couldn't see past their marxist lens and saw everything as class conflict then you had the gall to unironically suggest Philosophy from the view points of Friars( Mercado and Ferriols).

Terrible List.

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>>20529109
You can almost guarantee this is a self hating Filipino. Many such cases

>> No.20532590

>>20529106
Why are there self hating and boasting pinoy, but no levelheaded pinoy?

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>>20529060
Here's our high school reading. Classic
>Noli Me Tangere and El Felibusterismo. Stereotypes are still true up to this day. You can read it in original Spanish if you know spic.
>Florante at Laura
Another classic
> Stevan Javellana's Without Seeing the Dawn
> Other Poems of Balagtas
> Biag ni Lam-ang
> Hinilawod: Tales from the Mouth of Halawod River
One of the world's longest epic at 29000 verses. You can read the summary at Wikipedia like most lit do

>> No.20532595

>>20532590
I am a level headed Pinoy, if that even matters

>> No.20532601

>>20532593
>Countries best works are usually in two-foreign imposed languages.
>Native works like Santos and even Balagtas are obscure

sad state of our literature desu

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>>20529060
>SEA
Not Pinoy for me, but I can recommend some Vietnamese work.

Dumb Luck by Vu Trong Phung of Vietnam.
I only watched its movie adaptation but its eerie in how accurate it depicts the Northern Vietnamese society under French colonialism, and some of those things can still be seen today. Some, if not all, characters of this novel are antagonists.
The novel was banned by the Vietnamese Communist Party, first in North Vietnam from 1960 to 1975, then throughout the unified Socialist Republic of Vietnam until 1986. An English translation was published by the University of Michigan Press in 2002.

On the Vietnam War, there are:

The Sorrow of War by Bao Ninh, about an NVA soldiers collecting dead bodies and reminiscing about the past. Was banned until 2006, and also got translated

Concluding the 30 Years War by Tran Van Tra. Its a memoir of NVA General Tran Van Tra of the B2 Front (III Corps Tactical Zone) in South Vietnam on the Tet and Easter Offensives. The book revealed how the Hanoi Politburo had overestimated its own military capabilities and underestimated those of the U.S. and South Vietnam prior to and during the Tet Offensive. This account offended and embarrassed the leaders of the newly unified Socialist Republic of Vietnam and reportedly only one of the five volumes survived. It ultimately led to his purging from the Politburo and house arrest until his death. The volumes were only officially published recently, haven't checked it, but probably heavily censored and redacted. The American somehow got the survived volume and published the translation one year after the original publication date kek. You can find it here: https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/combat-studies-institute/csi-books/vietnam-history-of-the-bulwark-b2-theatre.pdf

>> No.20532661

>>20532601
Vietnam's best poetic work, The Tale of Kieu, is just a poetic of a Chinese novel about a prostitute.
Vietnam has also been a heavy consoomer of Chinese literature since medieval time to presend day. Most Vietnamese works are obscure, and some lucky ones got a place in high school reading as excerpts.

>> No.20532691

>>20532661
Your situation is different from ours, the majority of FIlipino works today are entirely in English and sometimes in Tagalog, It's very hard to find literature in my language here because English is the de facto language of power.

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>>20532649
I personally find war literature incredibly tedious, probably because I have seen so many war documentaries and I've just had enough information about how terrible and heartbreaking it is when a person points a gun at another

For me it's the traveling books that do it, I'd definitely recommend "Vietnam: Rising Dragon" by Bill Hayton, and I believe there are some Vietnam parts in "A pilgrimage to Angkor" by Pierre Loti.

It's so weird to read that there used to be wild tigers in Da Lat, which is now just a huge buzzing city obsessed with artichokes lol

>> No.20532747

>>20532601
Our civilization is late to progress. Doesn't help that we are most typhooned country in the world not counting volcanoes and being an archipelago of a thousand islands.

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>>20529599
anon do I pass the chin test? latino trying to move back to Vietnam, everything is so fucking cheap (specially hookers)

>> No.20533101

>>20532488
Fuck you. Mercado and Ferriols would have disagreed with each other. Timbreza and Gripaldo would have disagreed with all the Catholic priests. I haven't even mentioned the Kantian. Fuck you.

To contrast Rafael and Constantino maybe ad Resil Mojares and Caroline Hau. But that's too much reading and too specific for the general overview of Philippine History. Then again fuck you.

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20533192

>nobody recommended this masterpiece yet

>> No.20533226

Tutoy

>> No.20533255

>>20533101
I would've accepted Agoncillo instead of Constantino because at least he admits his biases, Rafael doesn't even live in the Philippines, he's an American in all but name.

To try and read philosophy from Catholics like Mercado is a sign of a midwit.

>> No.20534128

>>20529109
Based, fuck this sovless covntry

>> No.20534183

test

>> No.20534199

>>20531604
Not to mention the fact that there aren't many public libraries out there, it really sucks to rely on the internet for this shit since most of the time, you end up not finding any at all.

>> No.20534442

>>20531571
>>20531604
>>20532649
>>20533192
thanks /lit/ bros
>>20532593
I think I'll start with Noli me tangere since I speak Spanish. Cheers flip bros.

>> No.20534466

>>20534442
since you read spanish, give the following a read
>Cecilio Apostol
>Jesus Balmori
>Teodoro Kalaw
>Edmundo Farolan
>Epifanio de los Santos
>Antonio Abad