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Cancer inducing goodreads reviews thread

>> No.20520913
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>>20520876
>103 people agree with this

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>> No.20520923

>>20520919
She's right. Borges is boring and pretentious.

>> No.20520940

>20520923
>(you)less

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>>20520876
ay sosa... yew mothafucken cockaroach

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>> No.20520964

>>20520876
Metaphor for its own sake is drivel.

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>>20520876
this is such a strange review, like something written by a space alien. Fantasy is so over exposed in visual media that most people wouldn't have a hard time getting a story about a guy waking up as a bug.
I'm genuinely interested in who this person *is* exactly. From where did this creature originate.

>> No.20520975

>>20520964
did you post in the wrong thread?

>> No.20520983

>>20520975
I was commenting on The Metamorphoses, which the OP pic is presumably reviewing.

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>>20520876

>> No.20521020

>>20520983
you're post doesn't make any sense in that context

>> No.20521045

>>20520947
Got a kek from me brother

>> No.20521051

>>20520970
Yours or OP's? They're both pretty weird but OP's can be explained by her being a student of the German language.

>> No.20521052

>>20521020
>you're
The Metamorphoses is barely coherent when read plainly. It is only with the assumption that Gregor's transformation is a metaphor for some other ill-recieved change that things begin to make sense. Hence, the story is essentially a metaphor for its own sake - something I personally think is asinine.

>> No.20521055

>>20520919
I was feeling mildly well before reading this.

>> No.20521063

>>20521052
autism

>> No.20521066

>>20521063
yes.

>> No.20521074

>>20520970
This is a better take on O'Connor than that McCullersfag we have skulking around on /lit/ at least

>> No.20521096

>>20521052
>The Metamorphoses is barely coherent when read plainly
you didn't read it. The Metamorphosis is extremely easy to enjoy on the surface. It's a black comedy about a family whose breadwinner turns into a bug. Are you just one of the uptight spergs that can't enjoy anything that isn't gritty realism?

>> No.20521139

>>20521096
>black comedy
I'd ask the same of you. There was nothing comedic about how his family turned their backs on him, nor his withdrawal into himself. It's tragic, it's deeply misanthropic, but certainly not comedic even in a dark sense. Maybe it just hits too close to home as one of the obvious metaphors is depression.
>can't enjoy anything that isn't gritty realism?
None of the characters besides the maid (IIRC?) felt like real people. I'd sooner believe the narrator was unreliable. My own preference is merely for internal consistency and putting the story before any other element. I prefer fantastic, lighthearted stuff, but it needs to establish itself so.

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>>20521139
>it's deeply misanthropic
retard

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>> No.20521177

>>20521170
This sounds like a school assignment kek

>> No.20521180

>>20521154
Please explain??? How the fuck is ignoring a distressed family member because they are no longer convenient not misanthropic? Especially from a writer famous for his very dour takes on human society? Perhaps you can claim it's true-to-life and we merely disagree over what constitutes misanthropic. I can't see how else this could be taken.

>> No.20521204

>>20520919
> [...] which I'm sure is strongly influenced by my just not understanding the references an/or being smart enough for this one.
> [...] but given the acclaim this collection has reached, absolutely don't take my word for it.
Even if her opinion is stupid I honestly can't hate her for it. She seems pretty humble and perfectly reasonable about it. This thread should be for your typical arrogant GoodReads pseud, not people like her imho.

>> No.20521225

>>20520957
> Walled vs. Unwalled.

>> No.20521229

>reviewer attempts a bad parody of the writer's prose style
Cormac and Henry James seem to attract this kind of pseud

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>> No.20521245

>>20521180
I don't think misanthropic is the right word. Misanthropes just hate people in general, I would just say that the book deals with a rather sad social phenomenon, maye you could call it men being expendable (did you maybe mean the family is misandrous, in other words hating men?)
Anyway I agree that it's not a comedy lol.

>> No.20521302

>>20521245
>misandrous
Interesting lens. The /r9k/ reading, lol. Honestly, I just found it hard to find positive qualities in the characters. Worse, their negative qualities are petty - at least a megalomaniac is admirable as doer. From what I can remember, the story starts with his boss treating him like shit for bullshit reasons, being coldly received home, being essentially confined to his room with only occasional but detached attention from the maid, and then losing even that with time. What we saw of their motivations was obvious: they had neither the kindness to kill him nor the courage to admit his existence to the world, they simply wanted to pretend he didn't exist. For years. I should also state that Gregor himself was pretty pathetic throughout. Maybe misanthropy/misandry is too strong, but it's still an unusually pessimistic take on people.
>Anyway I agree that it's not a comedy lol.
Yeah, maybe his other work because it crosses the line into unbelievable (but stays close enough to be ominous), but certainly not Metamorphoses.

>> No.20521329

>>20520876
>cockaroach
She talks like Yogi Bear.

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>>20521154
In a similar vein

>> No.20521362

>>20520876
This is obviously a joke

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>not posting the number 1 review for the metamorphosis
the one in the OP is nothing lmao
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2533311847?book_show_action=true

>> No.20521389

>>20521139
How fucking autistic do you have to be to not get the metamorphosis?
The family relations are perfectly understandable.

>> No.20521428

>>20520876
I have never wanted to punch a woman so bad.

>> No.20521463

>>20521052
The Metamorphsis is not a metaphor. Gregor Samsa wakes up transformed into a giant cockroach. This is not symbolism, it is not allegory. It's just surrealism. It does not mean anything that Gregor Samsa has transformed into a bug.

What makes the story so delicious is that Gregor Samsa is undergoing a completely insane, surreal experience and the world around him is completely blase about it. Like most of Kafka's work, it captures that feeling or alienation and otherness that we all carry with us, that feeling that the world is wrong and things are not as they should be, but no one else seems to notice, to the point where we feel like we are going crazy.

Gregor Samsa woke up as a giant cockroach. One day, I woke up and suddenly nobody could answer the question "What is a woman?" Same energy.

>> No.20521467

>>20521389
They "mildly freak out" and then proceed to ignore him for years, while he himself does nothing but stew. Even if you excuse everyone's lack of reaction as a combination of shock, personality, and the limited narrator, the fact that this persists for years is the final nail in the coffin for my credulity. Gregor obviously retains enough of his faculties to consider taking action to improve his lot, for which he is discontent, and the others have plenty of time to have a change of heart or a slip of tongue - positive or negative. That things just follow a slow, steady decline on top of that shaky start just simply seems absurd. Maybe, maybe it could play out in reality, but reality is allowed to be as strange as it pleases. Fiction is is not so fortunate.

>> No.20521488

>>20521467
>reality is allowed to be as strange as it pleases. Fiction is is not so fortunate.
t. gigamidwit

>> No.20521491

>>20521467
>Gregor obviously retains enough of his faculties to consider taking action to improve his lot, for which he is discontent
you have never been depressed

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>>20521229
Henry James is just too hard NOT to do. He's fucking mental, you must admit.

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>>20520876

>> No.20521550

>>20520919
Stupid bitch.

>> No.20521551

>>20521170
Did a middle schooler hastily write this before his teacher started collecting the assignments?

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the classic

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>> No.20521567

>>20521463
I could accept this interpretation. It feels almost like an attempt to troll, since how can an impossible situation be meaningful if it cannot be translated (metaphor) to a relatable one? But I recognise surrealism as a separate concern from the use of metaphor for its own sake. The former is written with no particular metaphor in mind, and is thus more constructive. Like a painting versus a billboard. I cannot at this point decide whether it's my own bias or a subtlety in the writing that made me pass this up. I'll need to reread and think on it. Thanks, anon.

>>20521488
Even a story about midgets taking a magic ring to a volcano rests on its ability to convince the reader that this series of events is perfectly reasonable. Maybe some avant-garde novel can enchant with pure nonsense, but this is the exception that makes the rule. The Metamorphoses does not strike as an attempt to forgo all sensibility; the mood, tone, plot & themes are in direct opposition.

>>20521491
Even if that were the case, I have known people with diagnosed depression that would occasionally find the strength of will to take some action. Usually futile, but their depression is chronic, chemical. Could the same be said of Gregor? It isn't so clear, and in concert with all the other matters, serves the credibility of the story poorly.

>> No.20521575

>>20521567
>since how can an impossible situation be meaningful if it cannot be translated (metaphor) to a relatable one?
you say this and then you bring up lord of the rings later.
Please make your arguments internally consistent because right now they're hard to believe

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>> No.20521665

>>20521575
I was wondering if I should have clarified that. Here, I'm specifically talking about emotion & the human condition. LotR is definitely meaningful since the stories that comprise it all touch upon the human condition in some way or another - directly or by analogy. The Metamorphoses also touches on the matters anon outlined. LotR does better under the non-surrealist bias because most characters behave as people, so it's immediately obvious that their interactions can be taken as representative. The Metamorphoses doesn't have that same sense, but at least when taken as a metaphor the pieces fit to describe something meaningful like depression. A truly absurd story would have Gregor behaving in a way that does not resemble anything more familiar, perhaps because of his alien mind. Could a story like that succeed to enthral its readers? If Gregor felt no fear, sadness, or desire? Who could we empathise with or condemn after the first half? Remember that the others hardly behave as people. A story like that would almost certainly have to rely on some other quality like academic interest or prosaity.

Does this make sense, or have I finally become a schizo?

>> No.20521678

>>20520919
Based

>> No.20521694

>>20521342
This is also based. Fuck Borges.

>> No.20521706

>20521694
you're still (you)less

>> No.20521717

>>20521575
>>20521665
To put things another way, a story is not completely estranged from reality when there is some human element preserved. For LotR it is the very human struggles of the fellowship in a world that evokes familiar themes like living amongst the ruins of a greater society (Rome). The Metamorphoses also achieves this, but only through Gregor's alienation, which itself is undermined by the society alienating him not making any sense until one dismisses the premise. I suppose the issue is that The Metamorphoses is a story about society, while LotR is that and also a story about individual struggle. Again, perhaps I have lost the plot if this does not make sense.

>> No.20521777

>>20521170
This is the only one written by someone with a soul

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A Canticle for Leibowitz

>> No.20521847

>>20521302
Im pretty sure it was a few months at most, not years.

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>> No.20521853

>>20521560
LMAO. He can't be serious. I don't even know what book he's talking about but "skip page 121" has to be one of the most hilarious things I've ever read.

>> No.20521864

>>20521154
>problematic

God I'm tired of that word

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this is our book she's talking about

>> No.20521875

>>20521558
Couldnt even make a micro penis hard holy fuck if i was a woman that would ruin me for life

>> No.20521915

>>20521850
This one is just a 14 year old sperging about having to learn some general culture for once (and failing from what I see in the pic)

>> No.20521922

>>20521623
I suppose I should get around to reading it. I was turned away from the perv garbage on the second page, maybe the rest isn't going to be so bad.

>> No.20521929

>>20521052
This is the kind of shit that doesn't even deserve an serious reply. I don't think you are trolling, but to have such understanding of the book you must be mindcapped.

>> No.20521937

>>20521204
I can hate her for it. if she's smart enough to realize that she is incapable of forming an opinion on it, then why leave a review at all? either she's being vain or just saying that to deflect the criticism that she never should have opened her mouth in the first place.

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>> No.20521961

>>20521240
Oh... oh no.

>inb4 Hemmingway definitely went bra shopping

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>> No.20521998

>>20521964
Wow. That is a truly impressive case of completely missing the point.

Hilariously, the moral of the story actually is that Plato is stupid. Which is why he studies at the feet of Socrates, who is wise, which we know because he keeps insisting he's an idiot and then asking devastating questions that reveal everyone else for being unthinking dopes. But I don't think they got that.

>> No.20522008

>>20521342
I like Borges but I kek'd

>> No.20522037

>>20521964
I agree with this review 100%

>> No.20522064

>>20521342
It is a thing to admire how he condensed half of the plots of Ficciones in one paragraph.

>> No.20522289

>>20521240
>a woman desperately misunderstanding what it means to be a man
I wish I could rid the world of this ilk. Universal suffrage at the very least was a mistake.

>> No.20522304

>>20520919
I'm white, argentinian, male, and I don't like Borges.

>> No.20522311

>>20521850
Kill all zoomers

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>> No.20522324

>>20520919
Borges is a pseud

>> No.20522369

>>20521539
yeah based

>> No.20522377 [DELETED] 

>20520919
keel replying

>> No.20522388

>>20522324
>>20521678
>>20520923
>>20521694
get a trip so I can filter you

>> No.20522428

>>20521964
The spirit of this review is correct but his actual gripe is pretty gay.

>> No.20522565

Ages ago, I had someone drop a one-star review for one of my Humour books and call it "juvenile and offensive." When I looked at her profile, I saw that she had recently given the "Grumpy Cat Calender" a five-star rating. All you can do is laugh at these people.

>> No.20522795

>>20520919
This was actually a very honest, rarely sweet negative review. Bless her. And Borges is shit

>> No.20522813

>>20520923
> Borges is boring and pretentious
I’ve never heard of Borges. Is he one of those meme authors /lit/ likes because they’re obscure?

>> No.20522837

>>20522813
>borges
>obscure

>> No.20522843

>>20521515
What a faggot

>> No.20523206

>>20521560
KEK

>> No.20523856

>>20522795
stop replying to the same post over and over you fucking sperg

>> No.20523872

>>20521170
Lol I love Mary. She read the entire fucking anthology.

>> No.20523905

>>20521376
What is it about the Metamorphosis that filters women so hard?

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This is one of the oddest, because the work in question has literally no bad language at all. There might be a "damn" or something. If that's her threshhold, I hope she doesn't ever try any other books.

Work: The Long Goodbye

>> No.20523914

>>20523905
What is it that you faggots are seeing in it? This shit would be forgotten after a week if it were published on my usual haunts.

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"Ignorant and gullible" is cute. The story features a woman who has lived for over two thousand years. Does the reviewer think readers in the past took everything literally?

The book: She, by H. Rider Haggard.

>> No.20523937

>>20520876
literally any review of heart of darkness written by a woman

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Proof of a real metaphysical evil

>> No.20523978

>>20523923
Goodreads reviews really expands my knowledge of female autism.

>> No.20523982

>>20521543
Why are you surprised that a woman disliked reading a book with a misogynistic tone? A Jew would dislike a book written by a neo-Nazi, and a white man would not enjoy a book written by an ‘anti-racist’ like Ibram Kendi.

>> No.20523998

>>20523982
what's a "misogynistic tone"?
Notice how that review never complains about anything in the book, just that the reviewer assumes that the writer is a misogynist.

>> No.20524003

>>20523914
>This shit would be forgotten after a week if it were published on my usual haunts.
nobody cares about your haunts

>> No.20524007

>>20523914
I saw a man live entirely for the sake of others, like some pathetic creature, and have all that effort go entirely to waste, because that's the curse of the well meaning retard. The family undergoes a massive improvement of character after their cash cow is incapacitated, and that's decidedly for the best. Their content, secure lives of relying entirely on Gregor and stagnating are sacrificed so that they might grow into their own persons of agency again, and a role reversal happens, and despite their moaning they grow into their new lives as stronger people. This is especially true for Gregor's sister, whose metamorphosis is probably the one referred to in the title. As this happens, Gregor the well meaning retard dies a pathetic death, and I felt bad for him, because he tried to be the best he could be for them, but didn't understand how his efforts were to their (and his own) detriment.
Tl;dr living for others is bad

>> No.20524011

I think I see the fundamrntal disagreement wrt. The Metamorphosis. Should a story be appreciated according to its original context, or the context of the reader? There's no doubt The Metamorphosis has historical significance, but were it to be published today, would anyone care about it? I do not care for literature as a historical pursuit, so I judge it harshly and, to some, inappropriately.

>> No.20524027

>>20524011
>would anyone care about it?
I would because it's a great story and I don't give a fuck about what normies think.
There is zero historical context needed to enjoy the story

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>> No.20524076

>>20524007
>>20524027
I guess we have different expectations for a "good" work. Your interpretation of it is interesting (emphasis on economical vs. moral strength) but does not move me; these are all familiar thoughts, familiar to the point of being pedestrian. I did not feel richer for having read it if we judge it as a parable or still-life. I don't deny that it puts those feelings into words well, but I also don't consider that much of an accomplishment. Thanks for writing out your thoughts; as much as I enjoy baiting, my confusion was genuine.

>> No.20524094

>>20520957
When I read "trigger warning" or anything to do with pronouns I swear that some kind of biochemical imbalance happens in my brain, like a minor aneurysm. It's on such a fucking level of retarded I don't know how to process how fucking stupid it is to live in this fucking retarded era. Then the same people think that being religious is peak stupid, holy fucking shit

>> No.20524109

>>20524076
What books do you think display significantly more original thoughts? I think the allegorical image is top-notch and the characters/incidents are all portrayed deftly; and the emotional impact of the ending in particular is immense, but perhaps that's only because of my personal connection with feeling broken and worthless but still wanting to see the potential for joy and beauty realized in people you love.

>> No.20524170

>>20524094
its very sad

>> No.20524191

I never thought people could get filtered so hard by The Metamorphosis of all fucking things.

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>> No.20524218

>>20520957
>Angus Hot Gate
What a stupid fucking name, holy shit.

>> No.20524226

>>20524208
Tolstoy didn't think too highly of his novels anyway. I don't think he'd care. He'd probably be disappointed that he's mostly remembered for his novels and not for his philosophical/religious writings.

>> No.20524235

>>20521850
>600 years ago
What the fuck

>> No.20524255

>>20524226
I think the comic is more about good reads than it is about Tolstoy. You could replace it with any author and the joke would be the same. I think the author just wanted to use Anna Karenina as an example of stellar writing.

>> No.20524291

>>20521170
Funny how this review, like the other anon said, seems like it's written by a middle schooler yet it's so much more likeable than anything else I've read on goodreads

>> No.20524310

>>20521560
What book?

>> No.20524314

>>20521946
>from whence

>> No.20524330

>>20521170
Based 7th grader.

>> No.20524333

>>20524291
It's because it's authentic and not trying to put forth a persona.

>> No.20524336

>>20524226
>femoids are actually defending their shitty review site

>> No.20524359

>>20521154
this guy probably thinks he nailed the style of prose. embarrassing

>> No.20524370

Someone post Tolkien reviews juxtaposed with Sanderson reviews. It tells you everything you need to know about goodreads users

>> No.20524392

>>20524291
it's because everyone can relate to being given a school assignment about poetry you didn't give a shit about

>> No.20524414

for any kafka posters today, thank you for insights. I will recommend to read kafka novels portraying main character as Kafka himself. This is genius of Franz, he gave us himself in this works, his more private part and shameless insights about life and society. True horror, for me this is something between horror and black comedy.

>> No.20524472

>>20521204
I think she’s included more for the unnecessary race remark than anything else.

>> No.20524519

>>20523967
They're so evil.

>> No.20524521

>>20524310
The Magus by John Fowles

>> No.20524528

>>20521204
>pretension common to men(white men)
>Noo! not the heckin' culturino! that's heckin' pretentious!

>> No.20524585

>>20522813
Borges is an English 102 writer, m8

>> No.20524634

>20524585
>replying to yourself

>> No.20524638

>>20521005
>Reviewed in the United Kingdom
That's just Welsh.

>> No.20524644

>>20524634
Cry more, little bitch

>> No.20524646

>>20524638
nowadays It's more likely that it's polish

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>> No.20524652

>>20522304
También eres un marica, tu país se fue a la mierda y perdieron las Malvinas.

>> No.20524657

>>20524414
It's obvious enough in The Castle and The Trial (both protagonists are named K), but if you're going at it from this viewpoint I'd definitely start with The Sons story collection.

>> No.20524662

>>20522304
>I'm white, argentinian
kek

>> No.20524663

>>20521842
Funny cause the last third features multiple female characters

>> No.20524678

>>20521560
BWAHAHA

>> No.20524743

>>20521875
Couldnt even reading comprehension hard holy fuck if i was a retard on 4chan that would ruin me for life

>> No.20524791

>>20524336
Who are you quoting?

>> No.20524850

>>20520876
The Metamorphosis has always stood out to me because I literally had the same thought when I was younger (middle school) independent of knowing the story. I thought, what if I woke up one day and was 10 years older, with no explanation? I thought about how my family would react, and how I would explain it to everyone around me, and how my life would continue. Whether I'd be immediately attacked as an intruder or recognized. All the dynamics present with my parents, the sickly feeling of accepting it after a while, something just happened and it's there forever. I almost started writing about it and then I found the story already kind of existed.

>> No.20524884

>>20521558
lmao

>> No.20525050

>>20520919
I see what happened here, she didn't read the Norman diGiovanni translations.

>> No.20525071

>>20524652
>tu país se fue a la mierda
Colour me surprised.
>perdieron las Malvinas
They were never ours.
>eres un marica
Calm your tits, we are having a civilized conversation.

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>>20520876
>>20521463
>cockroach
Next question: what insect? Commentators say cockroach, which of course does not make sense. A cockroach is an insect that is flat in shape with large legs, and Gregor is anything but flat: he is convex on both sides, belly and back, and his legs are small. He approaches a cockroach in only one respect: his coloration is brown. That is all. Apart from this he has a tremendous convex belly divided into segments and a hard rounded back suggestive of wing cases. In beetles these cases conceal flimsy little wings that can be expanded and then may carry the beetle for miles and miles in a blundering flight. Curiously enough, Gregor the beetle never found out that he had wings under the hard covering of his back. (This is a very nice observation on my part to be treasured all your lives. Some Gregors, some Joes and Janes, do not know that they have wings.) Further, he has strong mandibles. He uses these organs to turn the key in a lock while standing erect on his hind legs, on his third pair of legs (a strong little pair), and this gives us the length of his body, which is about three feet long. In the course of the story he gets gradually accustomed to using his new appendages—his feet, his feelers. This brown, convex, dog-sized beetle is very broad.

In the original German text the old charwoman calls him Mistkäfer, a "dung beetle." It is obvious that the good woman is adding the epithet only to be friendly. He is not, technically, a dung beetle. He is merely a big beetle. (I must add that neither Gregor nor Kafka saw that beetle any too clearly.)

>> No.20525120

>>20521560
ngl now i want to read it

>> No.20525147

>>20524235
>he doesn't know that the greek classics were fabricated during the Renaissance
stay bluepilled

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>>20521964

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>> No.20525387

>>20525224
>kike-worshipping liberal anglos cannot comprehend philosophy
Woah.

>> No.20525431

>>20520919
Why are hispanics white when they're pretentious men but POCs when the woman likes them?

>> No.20525444

>>20525224
John Adams was such a fucking retard lmao

>> No.20525462

>>20520919
Borges is straightforward as shit, what the fuck

>> No.20525466

>>20524314
Shakespeare and the KJV Bible both do that, pseud.

>> No.20525471

>>20524094
You're halfway to realizing culture wars shit is melting your brain

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>>20521376
> A BIG EFFING DISCLAIMER (January 2019):

>I read books for fun, not to better myself.

Jesus Christ

>> No.20525524

>>20520876
I mean, she should lose the attitude, but I mostly agree with her assessment of the story. Maybe it's not a one star read, but it's definitely overrated.

>> No.20525829

>>20521376
Powerful...
This creature is Reddit personafied.

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>>20524651
I don't think he read the book.

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>>20521842
>book set mostly in an abbey
>excruciatingly male
Wow!

>> No.20526968

>>20525471
You're halfway to being female but I have to tell you you're never going to get there.

>> No.20526983

>>20526968
The tranny obsession is part of it

>> No.20526991

>>20521052
But... it wasn't meant to be a metaphor...
Do people not understand reading something for the aesthetic experience instead of the superficial story?

>> No.20527003

>>20526983
Tell trannies the culture war is bad for their mental health, tell the Jews. Go to leftpol and tell them.

>> No.20527006

>>20521170
Is Mary an AI?

>> No.20527013

>>20524651
Sus

>> No.20527029

>>20521376
Aesthetically retarded. How?

>> No.20527068

>>20524521
Actually sounds interesting, surprised I haven't heard of this before

>> No.20527080

>>20520919
>Engage with me, it needs to make me engage with it, engage, engage engage, me, me, me, me.

>> No.20527084

>>20522304
What Argentinian writer do you like?

>> No.20527090

>>20525431
Because Hispanic is not a race (except in American census).

>> No.20527095

>>20521052
Hitchens?

>> No.20527102

>>20524291
Because it's candid.

>> No.20527111

>>20521539
Epic fail!

>> No.20527113

>>20521850
Future /lit/tard.

>> No.20527119

>>20525224
The foundation of America.

>> No.20527145

>>20520957
>feroda-wearing gaslighting bro
lmfao what a confused stereotype

>> No.20527148

>>20521052
>>20521139
>>20521467
t. butthurt cockroach

>> No.20527149

why is it always women?

>> No.20527198

>>20524007
>I saw a man live entirely for the sake of others, like some pathetic creature, and have all that effort go entirely to waste, because that's the curse of the well meaning retard.
Is this Ginsberg?

>> No.20527245

>>20522565
seething

>> No.20527270

>>20520919
Based. She's a self aware woman who can think for herself. That's what bothers you.

>> No.20527310

>>20521170
>by reading this book I learned a lot about poetry, but I also learned about why I do not love it
Fucking based, fuck poetry

>> No.20527331

>>20521665
>>20521717

i cant believe you're missing this. you're answering your own questions.

this story is about many things. one of them is alienation from his family. they do behave as if it was real. they have no fucking clue what is going on. they try to ignore it. the rationalize it. they pretend its not him. they act like he deserves it. they resent him. they lash out. they punish him. these are all based on real family dynamics. the plot is surreal. the behavior is grounded. the themes are grounded.

>> No.20527357

>>20521937
because the site is for reviewing. it's meant to create a habit for reviewing. it leads to people thinking more about books. and to reading more. or thats the way people want to use it. a bad review takes nothing away from the book. borges is not rolling over in his grave. the world loses nothing because someone doesnt like the book and says that.

>> No.20527443

>>20521005
Unfathomably based.

>> No.20527481

>>20523914
Ah, so you're a "fantasy" "writer".

>> No.20527495

>>20524109
He doesn't read, he just watches tranime and plays video games.

>> No.20527498

>>20521139
>someone turning into a bug isnt funny
I feel sorry for you anon.

>> No.20527510

>>20523982
I actually loved reading my retarded black nationalist ex - roomate's manuscripts so put that in your pipe and smoke it

>> No.20527511

>>20521842
>quits right before female characters are introduced
Lel

>> No.20527521

>>20527090
actually theyre lumped in under caucasion in the census

>> No.20527538

>Go to ye old medieval catholic book
>baptist boomers saying how the author is a nut job
>go to anarchist literature
>the avatar of marx has resurrected form the dead to release his fury once more
any more funny polemics?

>> No.20527651

>>20521467
>persists for years
I should probably just reread the story, but why do you say years? The timeline in my head was always in months, not years.

>> No.20527691

>>20525387
Rent free. Not enough non-fiction in this thread

>> No.20527700

>>20525444
Nah if you look AR his policies he was pretty based

>> No.20527834 [DELETED] 

>>20525466
it was commonplace back then only pretentious tards talk like that now

>> No.20527842

>>20525466
only pretentious tards talk like that now

>> No.20527866

can you say niggers on goodreads? if not i don't want to use it. heil hitler.

>> No.20527870

>>20527866
Hitler sucked.

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>>20522304

>> No.20528397

>>20527003
Got a link? sounds like a fun place

>> No.20528518

>>20527080
>When you've hit the wall and nobody has offered you a ring

>> No.20528568

>>20521154
I hate these reviews where the guy tries to emulate the writing style. It’s so fucking smug and self satisfied it makes me wanna puke.

>> No.20528572

>>20521170
>by reading the book I learned a lot about poetry
>I don’t like poetry
Based?

>> No.20528677

>>20520876
utterly based, OP btfo

>> No.20528682

>>20524094
both of them are religious

>> No.20528703

>>20521560
this is a based review, doesnt fit this thread

>> No.20528707

>>20521428
she's correct

>> No.20528720

>>20521868
kek

>> No.20528725

>>20528707
Now I want to punch you.

>> No.20528730

>>20528725
Kafka is a hack, like David Lynch.

>> No.20528731

>>20521623
this is just the /lit/ version of the "The recoil bruised my shoulder-" copypasta

>> No.20528732

>>20528730
Oh my god. Please get cancer and die.

>> No.20528767

>>20528732
I'd prefer not to, so I wont.
By sheer force of will I will never contract cancer

>> No.20528783

>>20527270
>She's a self aware woman who can think for herself.
>white men bad
lol

>> No.20528816

>>20525224
americans never had a chance

>> No.20528830

>>20521567
Holy shit, you are possibly the most pretentious person I've ever seen on here.

>> No.20529115

>>20521342
literally the "forgive me zanzibart..." meme (not that it's a bad thing)

>> No.20529122

>>20521170
bless her autism

>> No.20529166

>>20527013
>>20524651

>> No.20529343

>>20525224

The Republic IS a satire

>> No.20529387

>>20524310
the colossus of maroussi by Henry Miller

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>>20527084
Rodolfo Walsh, Sergio Aguirre, Fogwill, Piglia, Víctor J. Guillot, Ricardo Canaletti, Liliana Bodoc, pic relates and a very long etc. I just don't enjoy Borges

>> No.20529588

>>20521342
Blessed review.

>> No.20529647

>>20529523
Arlt, really?

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“Nooooooo, you have more money than me, you’re not allowed to be unhappy!!!!”

>> No.20529747

>>20520919
Borges would unironically agree with her

>> No.20529765

>>20521329
Fucking kek

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>> No.20530072

>>20530058
Bovary? Gotta be surely

>> No.20530267

>>20530072
Yes

>> No.20530280

>>20521052
howard?

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>> No.20530957

>>20520923
His style is. He's still a great writer, though.

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>> No.20531008

>>20521623
He's not wrong. Mishima is unabashedly ugly. His worlds are sour. Sea of Fertility is utterly nihilistic.

>> No.20531028

>>20522304
>white, argentinian
Good one

>> No.20531179

>>20530940
>says she read it to have grounds to roast it
>take is as shallow as someone who didn't read it
Reading doesn't benefit her.

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>>20530972

>> No.20531343

>>20520919
thank god i'm not this dumb

>> No.20531448

>>20531240
Stonetoss' opinions can easily be discarded as he's an NFT grifter.

>> No.20531457

>>20531240
Stonetoss is a Nazi

>> No.20531459

Alternatives to Goodreads?

>> No.20531515

>>20521342
I like Borges but this is pretty funny desu

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>>20531459
alternatives to rubbing lemon juice on my anus after every wipe? it's really starting to burn

>> No.20531721

>>20520876
>This sounds like a school assignment kek
the metamorphosis is a Christ allegory?

>> No.20531814

>>20521850
kek I was the one who screencapped this and posted it a while back
still dumbfounded by this retardation

>> No.20531958

>>20520876
whats way sadder and funnier then these goodreads review is that people who go on LIT have sacred cows and the "right opinion" about certain books they don't really have the balls to create their own opinion unbiased by what is considered the META of books. Like a good little min maxing mmo player. The canon to them is like having good stats and if u read other shit your a noob. that's all i see in these chans bro. Just a bunch of faggots. I'm gone.

>> No.20532003

>>20520923
Fucking retard.

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>> No.20532121

>>20531240
it's makes leftoids seethe so it must be right

>> No.20532173

>>20531448
Ok

>> No.20532210

>>20531448
>>20531457
>instantly prove his point

>> No.20532245

>>20532076
>I want more women in my book because I want equal representation
>I also want more black people in my book because I want equal representation
>I also want more trans people in my books because I want equal representation
>I also want more fat people in my book because I want equal representation
>Also the display of information is overwhelming, no white space whatsoever
>Also I don't want anything at all, i just noticed the author is a white male. Disgusting

>> No.20532300

>>20532245
The lesson is that it will never be good enough and, in the end, they won't thank you for trying. White man's burden.

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murakamisisters....

>> No.20532922

>>20520913
103 people are absolutely correct

>> No.20532972

>>20532922
They're just not the same ones.

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i honestly respect the lack of reverence for the classics.

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>>20532086
>i read a bunch of gay lit
>turns out they're raging faggots obsessed with cum in assholes

>> No.20533487

>>20520876
truly kafka-esque

>> No.20533530

>>20521558
Just perfect. If she had given this five stars with the same review it would have been a golden moment of self-awareness.

>> No.20533546

>>20527029
People have been trained to only care about surface level plot for a while now. Autism is out of control because people have lost the ability to interpret meaning in any way other than having it spoonfed to them through the narrative.

>> No.20533785

>>20530940
>Let the roasting commence:
>It uhhh le sexist much???? and it hurt my feefees because I don't like le characters.
Womemes everybody

>> No.20534043

>>20520876
not reading any of these just dropped by to say, do not repost any of these, you are hiding fugitives in devils of people

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>>20520876

>> No.20534414

>>20525229

The women in Underworld are insufferable, just like real life.

She feels seen, lol.

>> No.20534422

>>20528110
Basado

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>>20525224
>>20528816

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This is the beginning of the topmost review for The Giver.

>> No.20535593

>>20531457
Good

>>20531448
>oy vey he made money, only kosher creators can do that

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>> No.20536122

>>20520919
>latino
>white

>> No.20536292

>>20535501
He's right

>> No.20536777

>>20524208
Based. Fuck Tolstoy. Evne when he got older he regreted the bougie snoot-nosed shite he wrote as an arrogant wealthy lad.

>> No.20537460

>>20529523
Children's writers? Really?

>> No.20537492

>>20521560
a max appreciator over here

>> No.20537510

>>20524652
woah woah woah if you're writing this from somewhere in the west you gotta learn about glass houses and throwing stones

>> No.20537524

>>20521488
Based midwit identifier. Also digits.

>> No.20537572

>>20529343
Explain. It seemed pretty serious to me and his homeboy Aristotle responded to parts of it as if it were serious.

>> No.20537694

>>20520919
She’s right.