/lit/ - Literature

Stupid frogposter.

>>20486088
No one writes.

>>20486088
Has anyone wrote for a content mill before? Any advice?

>>20486094
Okay I'm going to post one of my writings. You all better read it.

https://litter.catbox.moe/vkgw86.pdf

https://litter.catbox.moe/owf746.pdf

You posted a new thread when it was less than 310 replies, redditfrog.

>>20486115
>>20486092
>triggered by pixels

I unironically write genrefic, suck my nuts

>Bonefire, as his younger self had so uncreatively named it when he had inadvertently produced the phenomenon, calcified whatever it burned. In his experience, it could eat away at near enough everything, the only problem was the fact he needed to actively input Ossum into the reaction to make it have a noticeable effect, and the amount wasn’t at all trivial, thus significantly limiting Victor’s ability to use it… Until now.

>Another breath. A bit more Ossum. A snap of his fingers. A scrap of cartilage went up in flames and became a plaster-white husk of itself. Victor crushed it into dust in his hand and reabsorbed its constituent Ossum. He wasn’t a living essentia meter, but what he’d just gotten out of that felt like more than he had put in.

>“If it feels like cheating, but it works, it’s not cheating…” he muttered to himself, smiling. He knew it wouldn’t be nearly this easy with living, resisting foes, but that made no difference. As long as he was careful, he could replenish his Ossum reserves from the bones and calcified flesh of his enemies once they had breathed their last.

>>20486130
genrefic is cool

>>20486122
My sweet summerfag, I...

>>20486130
Turgid, overwritten. Begin again.
>>20486088
Here is a bit of fantastical poesy.
>As when a ship, that flyes faire under saile,
>An hidden rocke escaped hath unwares,
>That lay in waite her wrack for to bewaile,
>The Marriner yet halfe amazed stares
>At perill past, and yet in doubt ne dares
>To joy at his foole-happie oversight:
>So doubly is distrest twixt joy and cares
>The dreadlesse courage of this Elfin knight,
>Having escapt so sad ensamples in his sight.

>>20486109
1) Opening with unattributed dialogue so I can't picture anything
2) take twice the words necessary to establish the scene over next two paragraphs
3) doujin plot

You're outta here!

>>20486139
Don't bother, I'm pretty sure he's the same fag who spammed pepes a month back

>>20486109
The second one is kinda funny.

>>20485254

Can someone respond to this? What's the point of posting my fucking writing if all I get is "you're wasting your time on this subject" ?

>>20486170
None of us write, anon. Your wasting your time.

I scrapped all my drafts, starting another one soon....

>>20486170
I imagine the other anon told you to quit probably on the assumption you were writing yourself into a trap. You got stuck in a cycle of re-hashing the same work, but not improving the piece in any way or means - rather out of obligation, than actual improvement.

This of course, is total conjecture, and frankly you would actually have to post the piece to get a real honest answer.

>>20486170
What do you want us to say? You say you're on your forth draft, so the story is more or less completed.

You're not posting entire chapters, you haven't queried anyone, you're not advertising it, you're not posting a cover for it. There's nothing to say. Do you just want (You)s for your blogposting? What exactly do you want?

>>20486195
>>20486199
I posted the sample so was looking for some critique on the opening of the book. I'd rewritten it so just wanted to get feedback on it to see if it was working as an opening

>>20486170
>heavy black boots clacking on the linoleum
In what world does anything clack on linoleum.

>>20486208
Is that not the sound it makes?

>>20486214
Not boots. Oxfords with wooden heels do, and those only clack on wooden or stone floors.

Apparently two of these are wrong

>>20486207
Well go and post the whole thing here, or the section you want for review again if you really want it to be looked at.

>>20486224
>has been performed
>affect

Is this the sanctioned F Gardner edition of the new /wg/ or the anti-Gardner one? I hope it’s the Gardner one because Gardnerposting is comfy and one of the best parts of these generals.

>>20486229

https://pastebin.com/HhNB6H7y

>>20486220
So what would I say instead? Clunk?

>>20486230
Wow I was 100% sure it was effect

>>20486244
It is the comfy Gardner one.

>>20486247
effect would be
>the effect my vote has
as it's a noun. affect is a verb

>>20486258
Thanks, I'm sure my article submission will be rejected anyway lmao

>>20486263

>>20486246
>heavy black boots clacking on the linoleum
Just use
>The heavy black boots echoed on the linoleum like drumbeats from the tune of Phil Collin's Sussudio.

Rate my opening, /wg/.
>"You best start laughing at failed writer memes, said Captain Proseworth. You're in one."

The bear bared the blare of the bare bears bare bair.

Critique my sentence.

>>20486320
>plagiarism from the worst pirates movie
0/10

Another night

>>20486246
You've managed to make a school shooting completely boring.

>>20486415
How do I fix that

>>20486435
Watch Elephant (2003) and capture the mood.

You are gonna get trad pubbed right, /wg/? You will just have to add some diversity and neurodivergence and strong wimin of colour and pansexuality. Oh and you can't be a straight white male.

>>20486529
i was thinking i'd post on royal road and languish in obscurity
not being facetious

>1.2k today
>my writing gave me laughter and a boner at the same time
I shall make them feel...oh yes... I shall make them feel...

>>20486529
There IS this jew that shoots up speed in the neighborhood park at 3 am so maybe if I let him sniff all my glue he'll pub my shit

>>20486088
>didnt fix the op again
fucking hell you guys are getting sloppy

>>20486109
>the girl opened the closed door
we're all gonna make it, right guys?

>>20486758
There are varied degrees of “making it”. I’m amazed half of you don’t choke on your tongue while sleeping so just seeing the unique IPs not falling by 40% per thread is a victory in my book.

Ash fell heavily, the air thick. The silence of a snowy day, broken only by the dull thuds of two pairs of boots on dusty concrete. Far away, it seemed, the clanging of metal on metal. A smokestack bellowed fire noiselessly into the gray sky overhead. "What do they make here, anyways," Dolomite asked under his breath. "I don't know, man. Microwaves."

>>20486435
You're starting with a climactic scene with no build up. The reader is not invested in any of the characters. The shooter doesn't even have a name. The tone is bland. It's a stream, but the shooter doesn't talk to his viewers or do anything entertaining.

>>20486315
Ernest Cline has graced us with his presence

This writing competition hid the right to publish any story submitted without paying the writer, even if they aren't even finalists.

Looking for critique on a short story, what's the best format to post it here? It's ~5k words.

>>20486831
Pastebin it and reply with a critique of someone else's post; that usually stimulates someone to read and critique it.

Rate my dialogue:
>"Ah you think autism is your ally? You merely adopted the autism. I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the normies until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but cringeworthy!”

>>20486815
Usually those are to prevent being sued by schizos, not to steal stuff.

>>20486894
Did you read it? It says they can use the story in heaps of forms and even print it 'without fee'. Why would they add all that just as a safeguard against lawsuits?

Hoping to get some critique on a short story:
https://pastebin.com/aibCsEjP
Pastebin doesn't handle italics, so I've put them in brackets. They're meant to represent an inner dialogue.

>>20486246
(going by the pastebin line system)
I think the flow of the short sentences on line 2 feels off. I think the short sentences work in general but maybe there's too many of them. Maybe change it to follow a rule of threes? Something like:
>He checks his watch: 9:40 AM, still early. He inhales. Holds. Releases.
On line 3, it broke my immersion a bit to have the bald man immediately sitting on the floor, when at the start of the paragraph he was walking around the corner. There's no indication that he is made to sit or told to sit and it made me feel like I'd missed something. There's a weird jump from dropping coffee from fear, to grabbing walkie talkie (which reads very deliberate and controlled), to being petrified on the floor.
On line 4, I like the ears perked up imagery, it's very small-animal/prey-like. I reckon you should change either "splinters" or "split apart" to something different, they feel like very similar descriptors, almost seems like using the same word twice to me.
>His boots squeak
I liked the ears perking up before because it was prey-like, so maybe change "squeak" to something more descriptive of a predator? Squeaking frames the shooter as the prey, and confuses him with the earlier description of the victims.
>Muffled laughter bounces...
Could "ricochet" be better than bounces here? Gun imagery.
In line 6 you mention it is the first day, earlier you say the first week. I know the first day falls in the first week, but it feels off.
I like that you have only described the clothes for the two gun-wielding characters. However, the "looks like you missed" and "his eyes still squinting like Clint Eastwood" feel very tonally different from the rest of the piece. The rest of the writing felt a bit bleak and matter-of-fact and suddenly it feels like a corny western.
I think for how short this is it could be a bit thematically tighter, but there's some good ways to go (ie. expanding the whole prey/predator descriptors). Maybe even throw in some foreshadowing that it's a livestream, like have the shooter ask what seems to be a rhetorical question, or use some language that is reminiscent of livestreams?

>>20486109
I know this is probably a joke but there's a lot of causality issues in the first piece. The boy turns around multiple times (one of which he does slowly, despite him being shocked), the girl steps into the room multiple times. She sees his face before he turns around.

>>20486913
The other anon is most likely correct. It's also a non-exclusive licence, meaning that you're still allowed to profit from it via other sources. These types of things are used for promoting future competitions anyway.

>hid the right to publish
I'm pretty sure I remember it being stated in the FAQ that every entry may be published at the publisher's discretion, even before the closing date of the competition.

>>20486094
I've posted four times and offered review trades, but not a single reply.
/wg/ was much better in the past.

>>20486984
>without paying the writer
Thanks for missing out on my point.

>>20486996
anon, that's how it's always been. You think the Olympics pays out royalties every time they use competitors for stock footage? Hell no. Imagine the free money you'd get for the rest of your life just for participating, and not even winning a medal. All those sprinters behind Usain Bolt would've been millionaires.

How many words have you written today, anons?

>>20487067
I don't know. 300?

>>20486913
If they in the future publish some story that's a little bit similar or has a character of the same name or something, they might get sued. They'd have to hire lawyers and prove they didn't reference that old story. Instead they just make these terms to get any claims immediately thrown out of court.

The chances of getting their hands on some million dollar short story are basically zero. Competitions are shady for other reasons.

>>20487067
1200

>>20487067
Just two <---

>>20487067
I think 50 in a text. Today is short story day, gonna write later hopefully a 5k 1st draft.

Requesting greentexts that elaborate on any of the scenarios presented in the attached picture.

Self-publishing is just a MLM scam.

>>20487257
>She made me coffee in the morning as I awoke to the yawning sun in a bloody sky.
>"Thanks, weirdly drawn face bitch... You're a good bitch."
>"A-anon, I..."
>"What is it, you ugly, 2D bitch of poor composition?"
>"It's just that... It's not like I wanna fuck you or anything, baka, but it's so cold and lonely out here in the desert."
>Damn, I thought, the anime girl had a point, even in spite of her Chibiesque, cringy form. But when I was about to take a sip of my coffee and respond to her, I was suddenly tickled by a strange sensation in my... oh, wait, my nether regions!
>"What the fu-"
>"Oh sorry, anon, those are just my feathers."
>"Wha-wha-what?"
>"I'm an Avian..."
>"You've got some explaining to do," I said and pulled out my Webley, snuggly hid in my programming sock. "Or I'll blow your fucking brains out!"
>"Anon!" she shrieked in fear. "I have kids, don't kill me!"
>"You fucking whore," I roared. "I hate children!"
BANG...
>"Oh god... what have I done?" I recoiled.
>She was supine in the reddish desert, dying; within the ooze of lifeblood, I saw a tiny chick trying to stand in the gore. It chirruped and looked at me with beady eyes. Out from behind her back, like a brood of spiders, more of these ugly embryos had cracked out of their shells...
>"Oh my... holy... mother... of... god..."
>They tried to scrabble across the sandy floor but they only sunk deeper with their own (admittedly) small weight. They cried out for mommy, who I'd killed...

Finished my 135 000 word fantasy novel manuscript. Gonna prune it to 120k eventually. Gonna take some pause from the book, and then I'm going to take on the challenge of developmental editing.

>>20486094
No one *reads. Did you miss the meltdown last thread? /wg/ shits out content but no one here reads it. We definitely don't read actual literature to improve our skills either.

Ugh. Anotther retarted OP, preserving the vandalism.
It gives me a headache to think down to your level.

>>20487472
>>20486694
>>20486139
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>>20486092
Pretentious losers

Any advise or tips for advertising on Kindle Direct Publishing

>>20487491
Dilate.

>>20486146
And you would be wrong...about many things.

>>20487495
Get ads checked for spelling and grammar (for professionalism), then try to target it for certain demographics your book appeals to.

>>20487501
Any good websites for tense consistency?

>>20487067
I wrote ~3k words...2 more chapters for my LitRPG.

>>20487504
For the book or the ad? I know freelancers will be cheaper than some editing sites, so compare the rates here:
https://www.upwork.com/
Avoid Fiverr. I used to try get beta readers through it because it was dirt cheap but it’s just illiterate people and Indians.

>>20487501
Ads? Anyone with half a brain runs ad-blocking software in their web browser.

>>20487517
Ya my fiverr beta reader said the book was sexist even though My mom understood that it was criticizing objectifying women(The character has a hot bimbo wife that he derives no satisfaction from).

>>20487521
Boomers literally do not; lots of people use phone apps like Facebook that are good for targeting people. I worked at a shitty imprint and the idea was to target boomers on Facebook who lived in a certain town, then they did radio interviews with the authors, etc. which was an easy way to get an entire town of old people to be interested in a book.

>>20487535
Sounds like a good idea, but it probably wouldn't work for any lit targeted at a younger audience

>>20487525
Should I be concerned with accusations of sexism if one of my protagonists is a religious conservative who views women as being lesser than men because they were made from men to be their helpers?

>>20487545
you will get critique for that, but hopefully you don't let that change your story

>>20487545
No, just make him Muslim.

>>20487545
no
take it as a compliment
I consistently get called a nazi by retards because my story tackles xenophobia and nationalism intensifying as a response to foreign occupying forces (and I don't portray people who act that way as evil)

i want 2 write, but im a seething schizo samefagging ilitirit pseud, whoos pathetic attempts at flaming would embaris a 10yo.
but i hav a big colecshun of cartoon reaction imigis, and absolutely no self awareness.
what shood i do?

>>20487612
Same. You know youre tackling an issue when some call you a Nazi and others call you a Jew lover. This is why we write novels, not editorials. People are just too desperate for answers now but I trust that less and less will give a damn about answers in my time because vindication is dead and buried.

>>20487625
One of the greatest tricks pulled has been convincing the population that any criticism of globalization is "racism"

>>20487614
write!

>>20487625
>>20487634
go back to >>>/pol/

>>20487648

I just sent three new chapters to my beta readers. This is the largest batch I've ever done. I have the first 11 chapters of my story done for a total of 37453 words, plus four finished chapters that are unnumbered due to me not being quite sure of the exact point in the narrative they will fit, and a whole bunch of unfinished segments (total word count 64k words)
I feel like a million bucks.

>>20486967
Not either of the shmucks your reviewed but I liked the writing quality overall, but stopped 1/3rd through.

For me it became very bogged down in unimportant details (e.g. the kid explaining every detail of the school, including two instances of the shoe tying when limerick when one would have been more effective- we all know he put on both shoes) for so many of these just having one or two distinct details would have painted a clearer and faster image.

Something about the emotion descriptions didnt work for me. Not physical/concrete enough perhaps (and just stating them outright less often I think).

>>20487420
Yeah, /lit/ doesn't write won't catch on. It's dumb, not funny. The struggling artist/author thing is way funnier.

>>20487644
but write about wut?
i tride writting abot my life wunce, but den sum meen pleece came n took away my new uncul.
n i miss our spechul playtim.

>>20487712
Back to the sped hall with you.

>>20487663
/pol/tard go home

>>20487720
but...but im SPECHAL!
I seethe n whine n bitch n moan on /wg/ all day n post cartoon reacshun imiges, n im jelus that evry1 but me can writ.
so how do i start?

>>20487648
I'm not a poltard you harebrain. I don't write editorials and I've got no cause.

>>20487712
nvm

>>20487726
No kys you commie liberal fag

>>20487736
ya u toally spechul
like SPACE SHUTL!
ooh im so clevr.
i toally not samefag.

>>20487648
kill yourself redditor
"people" like you make me want to write unironic neonazi fiction out of spite

Why do people post things they didn't even proofread themselves

>>20486967
>at which Otto was at the centre

>>20487864
Because we have fomented an entirely too permissive environment. It should go up in the general, in big letters:
>IF YOU HAVE NOT PERFORMED A CURSORY PROOFREAD, DO NOT EXPECT TO BE TREATED KINDLY. EDIT YOUR WORK FOR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR BEFORE POSTING.

>>20487870
if someone can't even read their own work i doubt they'd read the OP

He chased chaste women back and forth for the fourth time.

>>20487876
Maybe that suggestion to proofread is more important than anything else in the blurb, then. Maybe it's the only thing necessary if that's the level we're at.

Does anyone have a literary fiction? Everyone posts genre fiction

>>20487898
Sure. But the meerkatters and RR spammers have made this general pretty relentlessly unfriendly to people who question convention and the idea that making money isn't the alpha and omega of art.

>>20487898
I'm writing an alternative historical fiction which I consider more literary than genre. But that may be because I'm focusing on character interactions more than plot and worldbuilding.

>>20487898
I'm writing about topics of religiosity and relationships, that's pretty literary. It's still total garbage though, as I've been convinced by at least one person who read a fragment of something I wrote for a different story a year ago.

>>20487898
I am tryin to do literary fiction but if it gets shelved as something else then I guess it's genre. I grew up on golden age scifi and weird fic but Ive been reading nothing but literary fiction for a couple years now

>>20486107
After seeing this response, I certainly have to say. You guys absolutely deserve the shitty /wg/ boards with all the vandalism and constantly being told "none of you will make it" or "no one here writes". That F Gardner larper is just as pretentious as everyone else here. I'm done making the /wg/ threads with proper links. Gardner larper can do it, because I won't.

I’ve just gotten 70% of the base coding done for my stock alarm project
My planner project is just form building

I’ve got a lifeguide I’m writing that’s relevant to here, I’ve basically suffered through hell and have some perspective for what it means to live.

All of life is just an illusion to achieve free will and dictate fifth dimensionally the development to itself like in the movie interstellar.
Consider the lack of free will in this universe yet room for conscious backward manipulation exists.
Deterministic and post determined. You had no choice in this universe except to read this and understand how insignificant your observing essence is in the grand scheme of a universal consciousness.

An objectivity exists in this world and it’s why certain things are the way they are, through taste and fate.
The aesthetic is a universal experience of experience. You become enlightened once you are exposed.
All of this is evolution toward free will and evolution of will once we’re there. Because we will always be constrained by the eventually collapse of the universal consciousness once it has passed its experiential event horizon.

Our life and death mimics the universe. Wait and see. You’ll just wake up from this illusion after death and live in heaven or hell until the next cycle.
Our experiences now came from nothing and will come from nothing again. One born from chance. The other ripped from the void.

A universe silently experiencing progress toward absolution and then nothing again.

What kind of perspectives would you like to see in a modern guide to life and understanding the framework of life and the universe

>>20487898
your pretentious literary masturbation will never be canonized

>>20487967
No but I'd like to have said I wrote something substantial in my life.

>>20487967
I still dont understand what the canon is and why people care. I just want to tell a story.

>>20487992
The canon is dead anyway since its keeper has passed away

>>20487982
go for it
literary fiction still has a substantial part of the market
there're a few people who frequent /lit/ who write literary fiction

I’m really frustrated

>>20488034
You should use a metaphor to describe your frustration. Really is just poor word choice

What dictionary should I buy?

>inb4 just use the internet lol
Fuck you.

>>20487935
Why are you so angry? We have too many redditors waltzing in here now.

>>20488052
if you're american
"merriam webster"

>>20488063
If I'm not American?

>>20487935
You actually got some solid feedback in addition to "bleh no good". I've been where you are and so have most people here- feels like shit to be told what you wanted to come across didn't.

But its time to dust yourself off, study craft, and think really deeply about how to best tell the story at a mechanical level.

>>20488074
go to google and type: "what dictionary should i use if i live in X"
where X is your country

>be me
>little kid
>want to write
>know this will lead to great things
>years later
>researching on the fucking history of water bottles because of what I'm writing

>>20488045
Really disagree

>>20488092
yeah it do be like that

Meanwhile..

>>20487701
My main worry was that it is a boring story and that if you didn't connect emotionally that it wouldn't work. I thought I'd try my hand at something that was less story-driven though. Noted about the detail though. Do you think there'd be a better way to show the excitement of the boy that his fish is coming with him rather than explaining a lot of things?

>>20487867
Yeah fair. There was a lot of pretentiously worded stuff in there that I got rid of after the first draft. It's a bad habit.

>>20488144
Whatcha got cooking up there?

How much do you change after the first draft.

I’m trying to power through my first draft, but right now I want to change a lot, not just dialogue.

>>20488177
there are people who write six drafts
and then they send it to an editor
and they implement the editor's changes
and then they send it to a line editor
and they fix all the stuff the line editor pointed out
and then they send to alpha readers
and they fix the stuff the alpha readers pointed out
and then they send it to beta readers
etc

I got rejected by steady content for freelance writing. I'm applying to constant content. How do I avoid making the same mistake

>>20488177
you change the whole fuckin thing bro

>>20486094
I'm writing. It's good too. Its a novella and at the same time I'm working on the shooting script for the film.
Why write a book if it's not going to be "seen"? I look forward to showing /wg/.

>>20488319
may i ask what each are about? I'm working on something right now myself, some sort of novel I'm pretty sure. Right now it's kind of existing as a few disparate short stories, I have to continue writing and rewriting to bring them all together.

>>20488331
They are the both the same story. I have a background in video/film production so it makes more sense for me to just go for a film and try and get it made with a smallish budget than trying get a book deal.
It's about the pandemic but not our pandemic. Its a tragic thriller with a stronk wooman lead. But I'm giving her a nice fat ass and big tiddies.

>>20488350
Beautiful. A true exploration of humanity's place on this Earth, a true examination of the confusing paradox of life.

>>20488359
My big problem right now is that is lost some energy in the early-middle section so I need to stew on the plot for an afternoon or more.
Its started as a short story but I said fuck it this is a feature God damn it. People must see this film.
But yeah I need something for minute 30 through 80.

>>20488371
Kill the protagonist in a fake out twist and turn a side character into the main one.

>>20488379
Hmm thats an option thank you. I will consider her death but really the tragedy is at the very end. I think she needs to be alive for that. But I will add a death to the list of possibilities which is the only thing on the list of possibilities rn.
I'm off to take a long walk. Be back later.

Oh before I go. Is there a best practice for sharing work on here? I am usually of the opinion that noone will steal your work but having looked through /wg/ and seen more than a few anons admit to "artfully copying" what they like has given me second thoughts about sharing something thats unfinished.
My plan is to comple the first draft, give it an edit as best I can manage then publish it to an epub and hand it out here with my pen name on it and dated.
Any other considerations? Or is it all "nah bro don't worry no one will steal your story"?

I'm the anon who did a complete edit of the animeposter last thread. I think I won't be making that mistake again. First I get accused of being a Redditor, then he ignored half the childish sections I told him to cut out and then he locked me out of editing.

>>20488411
There is absolutely nothing you can do about someone stealing your ideas.
Unless it's absolutely obvious and they make a profit off of it, no one's gonna care.
The thing you have to keep in mind though is that no one will be able to do your idea like you.
So while they may steal a character's personality or a plot beat, they can't replicate your style while doing it.
Writing is just stealing anyways, that's what the creative process is.
You stole a bunch of ideas from a bunch of different people while writing this.
That's not bad, that's just the creative process.

How do I write for fun?
I write down these rich outlines for wish fulfilling fantasy stories but but as I go on I tell myself "This is fucking retarded and should stay as an outline" and I keep telling that to myself until I abandon the project.
Writing itself is not the issue since I've written "serious prose" before but seems that I can't stomach writing silly things.

>>20488424
Yeah I'm typically of this mindset. But the story I have is quite simple. And it's relatable due to the vastness of the pandemic.
I'll finished the draft this week hopefully and share it here.

>>20488434
just write wish fulfillment fantasy but play it seriously

>>20488434
i write for fun by just writing words without thought. just empty rambles.

>>20488145
>better way to show the excitement of the boy that his fish is coming with him rather than explaining a lot of things?
Just have him do what he's already doing with 1/4th the words.

>>20488411
if two people write about a farm boy who's chased from the farm by monsters and is guided to a quest by his mentor, both stories will be very different
unless it's a jk rowling level idea, or a jurassic park level idea, i wouldn't worry about it

>>20488414
Nevermind, I found the latest draft on reddit and he used all of my edits. I feel validated now.

>>20488521
Its more of a Ivan Ilyich idea but I'm probably being too grandiose. It has an element of "ah I wish I thought of that" plus it's more of a Tolstoy short story in that it uses characters like puppets to make a very specific point.
But I WILL finish by Friday and I WILL post it here.

>>20488536
why do you are so much to seek some dipshit out?

>>20488560
>why do you are so much to seek some dipshit out?

>>20488438
If just about anyone could write it, maybe it isnt worth writing

>>20488567
i honestly have no idea how i fucked that up. complete brain death on my part. you win.

I wrote 250 words today!

>>20488536
Which reddit subforum is it in?

>>20488579
fantasywriters

>>20488573
Incorrect. A talented Hollywood script writter could take the idea and pitch it or something similar.
But I see your point. And so but its actually going to win an oscar.

>>20488585
I hope this isnt an english language book

>>20488578
good for you, anon

>>20488602
It's mainly a film anyway

>>20486967
thank you for the well thought out feedback! will take this into account

>>20487898
i do but I only post my dream fiction stuff here

>>20488536
Lol he didn't even take in consideration if your edits fit his story. He's one of those writers. Post some stupid shit and wants others to proofread and make all the changes for him

Habit is something incredible. I'd suffer to write 200 words per day and now I can put 500+ without an effort. Start small, aim big.

>>20488578
:)
I'm happy for you anon.

>>20488443
>>20488453
So "just write" is the only possible advice?

>>20488725
Big true
The muses are fickle cunts, but Sisyphus keeps rolling the boulder no matter what

Do I abandon my 20k fantasy novel or keep going? It looks like it'll be only 50k words when I finish... Is that an okay length?

>>20488733
When you're doing it for fun? Yeah.

>>20488746
you can call it a novella

>>20488612
>>20488731
Thank you! My goal is at least 200 words a day, and I've reached my goal every day since Saturday! I'm gonna reach 50,000 words by Dec. 31, or die trying.

Reminder to report the op for low quality. Until it gets fixed I(the anon managing the author pastebin and making the recommendation chart) wont be participating in these threads

>>20488504
Okay fair enough. Maybe I'll do another pass through and see how a much shorter version would read.

tits? Yeah, tits.

Okay, thanks.

>>20488954
I understood the appeal of tits after I started dating this flat-chested chick. It would be nice to have some fat balloons bouncing in your face during sex.

>>20489003
How could you not understand the appeal of tits before that?

>>20488771
Nice man! That's a great habit, stick to it.

>>20489010
I thought it was silly to put any value onto them. Like if a camel enjoyed the female's humps.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/54622/the-kill-list

Chapter 4 of The Kill List is now published. Always welcome to feedback.
This chapter, honestly, was a slog to write. I'm not sure if it's because of deadlines I've set for myself, or because I was less motivated to work on a "build-up" chapter. Still, excited to keep going.

>>20489068
I never understood serials, what if you write at chapter 8 and need to change the story because it contradicts something on the beginning? Or you need to set up a foreshadow? Or something isn't right? Do you just write the chapter, run it through spell check then call it a day? each chapter completely self contained?

>>20489068
I like the naming system you used for chapters. Pretty cool.

>>20489100
I believe it's the second option. Just go with the flow and make things up as they are needed. It can indeed have literary merit if well-done.

>>20489100
For me personally, I'm writing this and publishing it as a big draft piece. Once it's done, I'll review and edit again as needed. As it is, everything's connected, chapter format like a typical novel. I go over and edit a few times before I release a new chapter.

Doing it like this allows me to get instant feedback from reader engagement, which is great personal motivation.

>>20489003
Sometimes big ones get mundane that you dont even notice but usually they are awesome. Mostly as a visual. I really try not to describe breasts in writing more than Eudora Welty or Chekhov would to illustrate how they look because if I didnt every POV character would sound like Leopold Bloom. Not that he isnt good but rather that I'd like some range of perspectives. Sometimes you have to describe characters lust to understand what others think about the. If a girl walks past working her hips and every guy leans over for a look, or if some guy struts past and you hear the girls all sigh it just paints a great picture of the kind of character youre dealing with. I remember Flannery O'Connor describing the curves of a fat black woman and the little kid asking directions from her starts getting incredibly selfconscious because he's smiling, staring and giggling at her that it embarasses his grandfather.

>>20489106
Thanks anon. I was a little worried they were too pretentious, so I really do appreciate that compliment.

Lots of cringe in this thread

>>20489068
Is it intentional that the princess and her father have last names spelled differently in the description?

I have to write but my brain is throwing a fit again

Would forcing myself to write a short story every day actually be beneficial or is it just a meme to make lazy procrastinators feel less inadequate?

>>20489272
The whole point is to beat your procrastination gremlins into submission and learn to be creative without relying on muses/sudden bursts of inspiration. The point is consistency.

>>20489266
Oh shit, not at all. Thanks for that catch! You're a hero.

>>20489280
but don't you need inspiration to at least start the first time?

>>20489288
Yes, but that's just the lighter fluid to get he fire going. The consistency training is so you can reliable chop wood to keep the fire going instead of relying on brief, bright flashes when you chance upon a trailer that you can siphon gasoline from.

That analogy got a bit away from me but you get the point

>>20489272
Become a freelance writer like me

>>20486088
How do you get your work edited if you're self publishing?

I asked someone if they'd like to go over my text and they agreed, but now that I've got 150k words, they went all "sorry I've got to return some video tapes" on me, haha.

>>20489312
You pay for it like a big boy. Or you find some retired english teacher GILF to do it

>>20489312
if you can find another author who's just as serious as you, you can go over each other's manuscripts
it's not as good as an editor, but it's better than some guy off the street

>>20489325
>>20489367
What are the costs like for this? I'll research it but if you know off the top of your head or had experience yourself that would be great. Thanks.

>>20489386
2-5k if you're serious. I just took mine to the writing assistant at my college. Told him I had a creative writing class. Not perfect but it was free. And I could only have it done for 5 chapters or so.

>>20489272
Do a flash fiction a week like I do.

>>20486088
i need a pop filter on my mic
for all the pussies i’m popping tonight
and i aint gon cum in no bitch, haha, sike!
yo bitch look so good, imma take a bite
im so pretty, i even convert the dykes
i’m so fly even if i’m creamy white
yo bitch keeps saying my cum so edible,
and she said i'm the most beddable
my flow so critical, lyrical, spittable
man i swear your net worth the minimal
but all the bitches with itty bitty titties
say they want my dick, but it’s a pity
I can’t give it to all them, they so numerous
yo bitch gettin' my super sperm: bukkake luminous

>>20489386
skys the limit
this lady on youtube says that authors often credit the editors they hired on their copyright page
find a book you like and see who the editor is
you don't want to spend a $3,000 and get a trash editor

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheCourtneyProject

Here's the first chapter of Slave Girls on a Death Moon (4500 words), about 1/5th of what I've written. I need positive encouragement to get back to work on it so be nice.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o8-LI7icw0xBpN0hm6E1PMQnrbmaOow1/view?usp=sharing

Can somone grammar check this for me? It has to be flawless and I don't trust the software tools available

>>20489644
I saw some errors.

>>20489612
Anon I struggle understanding the action in this chapter. So far seems like sci-fi with Moes. Sure there are people who would enjoy this, but grasping what´s going on is tedious.
Don´t stop writing, keep on it.

>>20489655
Could you post them in like microsoft paint or something. Its for a job

>>20489677
not making money for you lazy ass

>>20489662
>Anon I struggle understanding the action in this chapter.
Really? What was hard to understand? I thought the action itself was very straightforward.

>So far seems like sci-fi with Moes.
Yes.

> grasping what´s going on is tedious.
Could you be a little more specific, like where you got confused?

>>20489682
Maybe I'm just dumb.

>>20489690
No idea how to explain it Anon. Maybe the barrier language. Still keep writing, you seem like putting some effort.

>>20489644
It's good. No issues.
T. Native speaker

>>20489739
Yeah but they're finnicky bastards who will reject you without feedback.

Is this comma good, grammarly says no bu prowriting aid says yes
It is a little further to take by transit, but well worth the effort.

>>20489549
Nice

>>20489644
No. Go pick up a grammar book

How do I stop designing female characters that only exist for male characters to dick down?

>>20489754
get female friends for once in your life

>>20489762
Why would I do that when I can have male friends? I don't think that would answer my question anyway.

>>20489742
Whichever you decide, make sure it's consistent with the rest. In the screenshot you posted, you have two sentences with a "but" and you use a comma with one and not the other.

>>20489768
Lol.

>>20489754
...what's the issue exactly?

But, okay, if for some reason you want your female characters to have actual agency, give them their own story goals and motivations that have nothing to do with the male character's goals and motivations but also synergize with those goals and motivations.

>>20489754
Make them unbearably cynical or miserable

Ostra gazed upon the ox no longer out of admiration. He knew the beast was well endowed with fat and fur, but how much did this trophy weigh? Sighing, he set all of what he had with him, save his buckskin trousers and bone tool necklace, on the ground. He needed a plan. His inventory consisted of the bow and spear, a quiver with five bronze arrows, several spans of hemp rope, a half-full water skin, a sheathed obsidian knife, and a whistle made antler. Looking back at the bovinbo he decided that he needed to drain the blood. O’stra tied a stone to the rope and threw it over the sturdiest limb. Tying the other end of the rope to the hind legs he began to pull the animal. So heavy it was that he had to push off a boulder to get the creature vertical. The sun, bright and yellow, had cleared the morning mist and Ostra could see out beyond the plateau. Sweat formed beads on his brow and back. The rest of the blood poured from the slashed throat now that bovinbo was suspended. He lowered the hulking beast back to the ground and he knew that it would be impossible for him to bring back the kill whole. He had no sled nor ass to move such a massive carass. He felt he made a terrible mistake. Rubbing his brow he thought about all the hunts he had gone on with Master Nihoma. “This is so different by myself.” Ostra resolved himself and began cutting. After cutting around the anus he tied the rope to keep the stool from getting everywhere. He then began by slicing around the knees, starting with the right front leg he then slid the obsidian knife up the leg across the chest to left front leg down to the knee. He cut up to the slashed throat. He paused rubbing the sweat from his eyes getting blood on his brow. The skin and fat parted well enough, but he took hist time sliding the blade down the belly to the ass. He cut across from knee to knee similar to the the way he did with the frontlegs but this time he cut through tossing the bottom portion of the limbs to the side. He did the same with the frontlegs. He cut loose the sack that held the guts in place and began to pull the organs out cutting to where the rope tied the anus closed. He pulled the anus through the open pelvis and the organs were now removed. Dressing and quartering the animal took about forty minutes in total, Ostra felt every minute of that.

just typed this ill edit it tomorrow when my head hurts less

>>20489612
Is this Space Station 13 fanfiction?

>>20489844
No. Never heard of Space Station 13. Just looked it up. Seems pretty cool.

>>20489857
If you like crewmen randomly changing into monkeys from freak space accidents, it's a game for you

>>20489874
lol, duly noted. That was actually a reference to the Star Trek TNG episode "Genesis" (S7E19) where the crew is devolved into various critters. And a million other Trek episodes involving negative space wedgies.

What did you think of it overall? Funny? Exciting? Curious what happens next?

Can /wg/ recommend some stories about people under treat of losing their entire careers over something?
Like a dot com bubble bust story, or some cover up of a Corp mishap?
(I started reading bleeding edge but I don't really know the plot.)

>>20489973
Awful as always.

>>20489100
Ideally you have content prepped for months out, instead of writing new chapters you publish days later. That way you have takeback potential for at least 30 chapters earlier.

What are some good literary examples of femme fatales who aren't bad people but they lead to the protagonist's downfall because he cares too much for them

My chapters are around 4.5k words a pop, the longest being 5.3k. Is this a good length for a fantasy novel? I've searched up specific criteria and looked at other stuff on the platform I'm planning on posting to (RR) and some are way shorter and some way longer so I'm not sure where the cutoff point for "too long" is.

>>20489841
Too much telling.

>>20489987
For a fantasy novel, yeah, 2-6k is the generally accepted area. You can go bigger, but it's not usually a good idea to go smaller unless you're doing a 'thing' with a really small chapter.

>>20489988
NTA but for gore you have to tell more than you show. It's easy to lose your effect if you get flowery with it.

>>20489987
There's no real "correct" length for a chapter, but 4.5k words is pretty typical and I like it.

>>20487614
None of that stopped F Gardner. Just go for it.

>>20489999
Flowery doesn't mean showing.

>>20490011
Is there a fate worse than being the pathetic falseflagging subhuman that is gardner? Not many.

>>20489988
I can see a few spots that I could show more but overall I thought I did pretty good

>>20486315
>>20486415
>>20486967
>>20486795
bros i don't feel so good. should i just stop wasting my time trying to be a writer? feel like i've been banging my head against the wall too long and should just cut my losses

>>20489068
Hello writer. I'm not sure if you did this on purpose, but if you did, 10/10. This is some kino shit. I love the way the endings of chapters three and four mirror each other.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/29lcreyh7wq38l8/2.pdf?dl=0
Let's try one more time. First chunk of a novel I'm toying with. Feedback appreciated for as long as you want to read. If you want to review trade, I'd be more than happy to.
Also, is there any other places you would recommend going to for small bits of feedback? I like to toss bits of my work against the wall and seeing what others think.

>>20490077
If its something you want just take the critisms and try again. This ultimately is about a story you want to tell. you will get harsh criticism from us but it will be honest. It won't be great advice but the most important part (outside your vision) is seeing through the eyes of the reader

>>20489841
It's interesting but dense. It needs paragraph breaks, and I'd like to see it expanded out, maybe used to deliver more exposition as Ostra reflects on his decision to kill the beast without considering what he would do next -- which, by the way, is a great way of showing character. This piece does really give you a sense of who Ostra is. He's clearly a younger man, competent, but not forward-thinking, and he's very comfortable with the blood and guts of life.

I don't like the first sentence (it's clumsy), but the rest of it is readable. I don't think you need the inventory, not right out of the gate.

3rd person limited or 3rd person omniscient?

>>20490112
Thanks, it needs to be edited but they say to wait on editing after writing so I'm just gathering opinions. There is stuff previous to this scene. Eventually once I finish the chapter ill set it up on pastebin or something

>>20490077
Your story reminds me of another anon’s a few threads back. His premise was about a man who snuck into funerals. While that might be a fun story if done right, he did not do it right. This premise was all he had.
You seem to be in the same boat. You like the premise of your story but have almost no clue how to present this premise in an entertaining way.
I don’t like the pseud mantra of “Ideas are a diamond dozen” but, in this case, I do feel like you’ve provided what you can provide. Might be better if someone else took your funny premise and ran with it.

>>20490088
do people find this writing actually good? am i being memed?

>>20490138
>>20490105
that makes sense. when i originally thought of this premise it was more of a joke... like i'll write this unmarketable stupid idea and i kept writing it to prove to myself i could finish a draft. now it's just this stupid albatross i'm carrying around. i wouldn't even want to read a book based on the idea. so i feel like i'm just working on it out of stubbornness and it's preventing me from starting projects i would actually enjoy.

>>20490144
When done professionally like Joe Abercrombie it is.

>>20489841
Beautifully written, completely immersed me in the scene and I'd be very interested I'm reading on. Only notable suggestion is that paragraphs need breaking out for flow/clarity. Also I'd add a smell to the butchering but otherwise ignore le show dont tell pseud. Is this historical fiction?

>>20490112
Agree regarding character showing up clearly and first sentence being weak. Disagree regarding inventory check though - fits fairly well in context of killing the animal but open to being wrong depending on context of story.

>>20490011
F Gardner has unironically become one of my inspirations.

>>20489841
>His name sometimes has an apostrophe
>sometimes it doesn't
This is good? You can't even be assed to proofread or know your own god damn MC's fucking name. What the fuck is wrong with you?/
>He cut up to the slashed throat.
What does this even fucking mean? You cut a slashed throat? What?
>Using cut seven times in 3 sentences


If this is fucking good, I'm just going to post my story as it without any proofreading.

>>20490221
>Joe Abercrombie
Haven't read him. Is that prose similar to the post I was asking about?

>>20490248
Sort of. I'm reading through 'A Little Hatred' right now, and although I think it's a little tropey, I find his prose pretty nice. And yeah, it's pretty similar to Killbillanon's prose.

How’s /wg/ doing these days? Burgerpunk anon here. Working 12 hour days as a criminal defense attorney. Barely have time to read, let alone write these days. Any of our old friends of the thread find success? Did anyone have fun? Are you giving good feedback? Are you making the thread a better place than you found it?

>>20490218
Watch YouTube for tips on writing too, practice is key

>>20490271
Interesting. I'll have to check it out. To me, killbillanon's prose reads a little, I don't know. I can't name it. But if it's similar to an established writer, maybe I should see what's similar about it. Thanks for the response.

>>20490277
none. we have been overrun by redditors that get angry when we call their work shit.

>>20489982
Unironically The Mask

>>20489068
beelined through chapters one thru four after seeing >>20490088

Overall, it's really interesting and I'd like to see where it goes. Some things aren't adding up between the different narratives given so far, like the siege, or what kind of sacrifice was being planned to keep the city's curse at bay. Super cool premise that really was hidden by the generic first chapter. Keep it up.

>>20490248
He is really good at mirroring perspectives between chapters with humor. I love his "little people" chapters where he jumps from person to person

>>20490283
Really? No one gives multi post critical feedback absolutely ripping apart someone’s “sample”? People tore my writing a new asshole in these threads. I drowned in self justification but still learned from it. What the fuck happened? How does no one write AND no one gives good feedback?

>>20490077

You shouldn't go from one failed story to giving up completely on writing. Most famous writers started out writing stuff that wasn't very good and it took them years to get the point where they "made it."

Don't develop an emotional attachment to this work just because you already invested so much in it. You should cut your losses here, on this work, but not as a writer (unless you don't enjoy writing). I think what's best for you is to move on to a new project, maybe taking a short break first.

And I think you should not start another novel yet, but rather work on a short story. This will allow you to get the revison and feedback cycles you need to develop as a writer.

>>20490323
>>20490283
There's a few people who have kept up posting and writing despite getting critiqued.

Chinese railroad anon
Killbill anon
Poetry anon
to name a few

Rabbit raised a glass "ahem, fuck snails!". All the animals in the forest clapped because they were proud of being in such a great story written by such a handsome writer.
"That sure was a wacky adventure" the sexy wolf said in a sexual way.
When the roaring applause finally faded hours later and our sexy protagonists went to the group shower for some platonic friendly horseplay and sex they didn't expect to find Roy Orbison.

>>20490324
This is good advice. I have started numerous stories and dropped all of them. I finished one years ago but its terrible. I do this because its fun and seeing the improvement is like a runners high

>>20490335
The names change, but the thread survives.

>>20490347
10/10

>>20490128
Whatever you write best in or what works best for your story. Some authors make a point of switching up how their narration goes from book to book, some are rigid on one style.

>>20490098
Well the opening is very odd. It feels like you have no idea what the characters are actually saying. You claim that all of this nasty stuff is being said but nothing is actually said (shown to us via dialogue) in a scene that is ostensibly all about words being exchanged.

Beyond that though, it doesn't work for me. The opening "hook" just doesn't catch. He's your best friend? I don't buy it. Especially not in the first line. It doesn't work.

Any good resources for writing humor?

>>20490283
You called my work shit purely on the basis of it not being "real" literature. Pretentious fuck.

>>20490379
My aim was that it would be later revealed what they actually said, and with more context it would be more impactful. I see what you mean, though.

>>20490403
No your work is shit because it is. You're the faggot anime fuck that was complaining that I called your work a generic litRPG. It's not even a good LITRPG. The problem is that you keep trying to pass your shitty litrpg fanfic as story on par with even Brandon Sanderson books.

>You start off in the fucking guildhall
>The prose was amateurish and your word choice demonstrates you don't even have a strong vocabulary
>You overly use adverbs
>Onomatopoeias everywhere! WWWAAAHHHH WOOOO RRRAAAAGGGHHHH
>Same fucking jokes as isekai anime

How the fuck do you even take pride is shit like that and try to pass it off as "legitimate" work. Then actually complain when people call it out and you're still crying.
>You're pretentious!!! I can't even fucking look at my own work with a critical eye!!

Get the fuck out of here

I'm struggling to describe a character being squeamish because I'm pretty desensitized to shit.

>>20490442
When in the everloving fuck did I ever compare myself to Sanderson? Show me where I said that.

Not only that, I never said my work was good. I wouldn't fucking be here if I was a "good" writer asshat, I'm here because I suck and want to improve. I don't care if I get criticism, but the problem was I got barely any feedback on why it was bad when I posted it until I fucking complained.

>You start off in the fucking guildhall
Plot related. Doesn't make it bad. Maybe it's not for you.
>The prose was amateurish and your word choice demonstrates you don't even have a strong vocabulary
Because I AM an amateur.
>You overly use adverbs
Then just say that. I barely got any feedback.
>Onomatopoeias everywhere!
If you didn't like it, you should've offered that as feedback
>Same fucking jokes as isekai anime
Okay, then it's not for you. But someone out there will like it. That's why I write.

Pretentious fucks like you think everything needs to be high class literary fiction to deserve a critique. Go masturbate to your own work somewhere else.

>>20490442
What's worse is that you actually have the fucking GALL to complain that people aren't praising your unedited and unproofread work! Holy fuck you're so fucking dense you want us to actually go line by line through your own fucking sentences that you couldn't even bother to even fucking proofread it yourself.

JUST BASIC PROOFREADING TOO!!!

>>20490479
Just say you don't read. I know you don't. Why pretend like you want to read anyone's work? None of US will write good literary fiction like you want, so why shit on bad writers?

Example of writing in first-person and present tense?

>>20490453
I'm pretty squeamish at times. It feels like eating something sour or hearing an extremely unpleasant sound. Your body crinkles into itself and wants to turn away. Your muscles tense to try and drown out some of the sensory input. I feel it in the teeth.

>>20490473
>>20490442
I told your dumbass that it was a good LitRPG.
BUT NOOOOOOO

You kept wanting it to be "art". You kept pushing the fucking issue. And kept thinking your piece of shit was even comparable to other works here, when everyone told you it's an isekai anime litrpg. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS

But nope! You just have to keep going on and on insisting and crying that nobody is reading your piece of shit that nobody here with taste actually wants to fucking read. Go post it on /r isekai or some tranny discord server

>>20490500
I am walking the dog. I hear a sound. It sounds like a child crying. But it's the middle of the night and no one's around here.

>>20490500
I come at the end of the long road, neither human nor devil. All bends to my will.

I think I use "even" too much. Like
>The story was so bad even a redditor would laugh.
How to cut down on this?

>>20490500
I reply to your post out of a strange sense of pity, though deep down I'm beginning to worry about what's become of /wg/. I wonder whether he was being ironic, or perhaps simply trolling. I think he should read more. I complete the captcha and post.

>>20490510
I don't care whether you think it's good or not dipshit. Compliments don't help me get better. I wanted feedback on what I was doing wrong.

Also there's more to a story than just the genre. There's flaws with characterization, lack of hook, tone. But I guess you have no idea what you're talking about and probably can't comprehend anything beyond "LIT RPG"

>>20490473
holy copium, you're on denial

>>20490453
Just make a character react to malodor or grotesque appearance by wretching or whatever physiological response you think is appropriate. Nausea can build up really fast, sometimes it takes a minute but sometimes it can be seconds. Usually not bad enough to actually vomit but my pull jaw back in anticipation of it and then be fine.

>>20490532
My main flaw with your story is the conflict was too simple and basic and instead of deepening it you just remarked how shallow it was every time you repeated it. Oh, nobody thinks about the poor commoners. Oh, people are driven by greed. Oh, the pile of Commoners. Did I mention nobody works for the commoners? Oh, then this guy is different. He's so fucking sexy and not like the other guys.

This to me speaks of a lack of faith in the reader. You're scared they won't get your subtle themes. It also feels like it's the first thing you've ever written with the way you didn't know how commas worked before the edits and how you felt every single dialogue needed a tag at the end. Just kinda childish from every angle. Not shaming you, nobody's first writing is good, but you don't need to post it, necessarily.

>>20490242
>You cut a slashed throat? What?
Not the author but obviously the throat was already cut, and while skinning the beast he cut from the rear as described in the previous line up to the already cut throat.

>Using cut seven times in 3 sentences
Pic related. Repetition can be good but honestly for such a simple word it was invisible to me.

>If this is fucking good, I'm just going to post my story as it without any proofreading.
Post it then. I've raw posted before and gotten positive feedback as well

>>20490565
Well, thanks for the feedback. I'm glad I posted it, otherwise I wouldn't have realized what was wrong with it and would never have improved.

>>20490511
>>20490517
>>20490528
Thanks. Present tense is active and dynamic. I may appropriate it.

>>20490570
>Pic related. Repetition can be good but honestly for such a simple word it was invisible to me.
means you were skimming, not reading. if that was completely absent in your glance, you weren't reading.

>>20490589
New Thread

>>20490590
>accusing others of skimming
You didn't even remember that the throat was explicitly cut within that very sample ya goof. Repetition of "cut" is fine, although fine if one or two get removed in revision but it's hardly the huge issue you make it out to be.

>>20488092
Hey, I recently had to research why human waste isn't used to fertilize crops.
Then I could explain what my characters were doing with all the human waste they accumulated.

>>20490430
>>20490430
then start the story at a later point

>>20487399
>Finished my 135 000 word fantasy novel manuscript. Gonna prune it to 120k eventually.
I'm the opposite. My first drafts are bare boons and I have to build them up.
>>20487406
Some of that is good but I don't feel that good writing has hard rules. I always felt that how you write is personal to (you.)
Some swear that you shuld NEVER make a outline but I would get nothing written if I "just write and let the story happen."
I outline by writing a "draft zero" in org-mode. Then I can work on a first draft without having to think about what/how to write it at the same time.

>accidentally turned my fantasy novel about a man struggling with alcoholism and crippling anxiety into a harem again
God fucking damnit. Is this the consequence of having lived among women my whole life? Ever since 2nd year of high school, I've never been part of a class that has more than one other guy in it. I'm in uni now studying psychology, and lo and behold I'm in a class of 20 women and 2 other men. How do I avoid having a disproportionate amount of female characters in my story when its literally what my life is like?

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embrace it, perfect it