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>>20452108
do womens feet taste good

>>20452108
>is an emperor
>a fucking emperor
>has to write a bunch of notes to himself to get out of bed in the morning

>>20452108
Cuck philosophy

>>20452108
Reddit Philosophy: The Book
>wow, going a day without Elden Ring and ThisIsFood: Gamer edition makes me feel like a big boy
Reddit Latin: The book
>so what is the difference between non and ne????

>>20452132
The alternative is to get mad because things didn't go your way like one of spoiled little kids
>WAAAAAH MOMMY BOUGHT ME THE BLACK IPHONE INSTEAD OF THE WHITE ONE

>>20452132
more like sigma philosophy
>"...as for sexual intercourse, it is the friction of a membrane and, following a sort of convulsion, the expulsion of some mucus."

>>20452108
Absolutely. Sure, since if it is only relevant to him as an emperor, but most of it is about common human experiences.

>>20452155
Some of it, not "since if it." On mobile.

>>20452115
He didn't expect it to be recorded correct?

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>>20452108
Such a lazy reaction to criticize Aurelius for being a philosophic emperor like it is some kind of insult. Would you prefer Caligula? Besides, if you want some juxtaposition read Epictetus, an actual Stoic philosopher and teacher who also happened to be a crippled slave. If I hadn't already had innate stoic tendencies that have been reinforced by philosophy the constant misinterpretation of stoicism whop bother me a lot.

>>20452108
dumbed down philosophy

>>20452144
The alternative is to beat the shit out of your mother until she buys you the white iphone

>>20452108
If you want to die having never felt happy, sure.

>>20452241
For me, it's Seneca
https://www.26reads.com/list/32200-starting-with-stoicism/moral-letters-to-lucilius-epistulae-morales-ad-luc

>>20452194
YOU'LL FUCKING DIE.

>>20452905
I gotta admit, of the three I like Seneca the least, but he is easily the most based.

>>20452826
He is happy.

>>20452108

It is, but I have a hard time finding a balance between "making my own change" and "coping."

>>20452141
It was written in Koine Greek lmao

>>20452108
I'd say Stoicism is very relevant today.

>>20452154
> I really really loved that line!

Mental diseases are real, so it is useless to repeat to ourselves that our thoughts are completely under our control.
As a corollary, it is useless to say that one can always find peace in one's mind, whatever the circumstances.
It is hard to believe in Providence.
Those are some contentions I have against stoic thinking. But I do agree that letting go of what you can't control is a freeing and wise action, that it is possible to be content under most circumstances. Most, not all. Whining never made anything better. But pain is real.

>>20452108
its about the most pragmatic philosophy for the common man it almost makes me think its like a weird form of western buddhism
>"I am suffering what should I do?"
Buddism: "Lmao stop desiring retard"
Stoicism: "Lmao if you cant do shit don't worry about retard"

>>20454387
Yes, I've heard comparisons made between them.

>>20453814
He has to constantly remind himself that his suffering and all of his emotions are not real, at best he's emotionless, not happy. Also, he has trouble getting out of bed and feels unmotivated. Sounds like depression to me, which is understandable given his circumstances. He also seems to be dealing quite well with all of his problems, but he definitely doesn't sound happy to me.

stoicism is what you settle for if you arnt the kind of person to get what you want

>>20452769
You must have a lot of repressed anger if you need to "show harsh" on an online anonimous tabloid. We all know you are the quiet kid that sits in the back never had a gf and it's secretaly jealous of chad lol im sorry but you wont be a hardass until you snap and go columbine style

>>20455319
*beats the shit out of you
*fucks your mom
*crawls into bed with you and kisses you good night

fuck you going to do now faggot

>>20452108
>Is it applicable today?
The answer to this will literally always be "yes" because it concerns human nature itself.

It's an applicable philosophy for people who want to get on with their lives and be functioning people instead of arguing if chairs exist or whatever retardation kantoids get up to these days.

>>20455228
He is happy he just understand why things happen.

>>20452108
>You WILL accept nature's will and follow it willingly rather than trying to escape it as a fugitive slave...
>You WILL recognise how arbitrary all achievements of the world are and how little is worth the praise of other men...
>You WILL realise that the cause of your suffering is based on the phantasms of perception...
>And you WILL be happy

>>20452826
He was probably happier than you, because he lived a life rejoicing in virtue, while you (I'm assuming) are a vulgar hedonist - in the modern sense - who deems happiness I'm sure to be something like relaxing and experiencing your hecking favourite media, or following the trail of your material ambitions, or passionate revelry, or any number of sordid things

>>20456125
Happiness is indeed difficult to define. If it wasn't, everyone would be happy. But for me it means experiencing greatness - whether looking at a fine piece of art, admiring nature, or reaching a worthwhile goal after hardships. I think I differ from hedonism in that I don't think that good feelings are the end goal or the only thing having value in themselves - every action should also serve others.

Also, I'm not saying that virtue is not the highest good, but I disagree with the view of the later Stoa that virtue is the *only* good. If it was, altruism paradoxically ceases to be a virtue. If virtue was the only good, we could only serve others by giving them opportunities to act virtuous according to the Stoa, i.e. plunge them into hardships. E.g. feeding the poor would lose all meaning, because we're not really helping them (after all food doesn't do anything for their souls and death isn't bad).

So as you can see, I don't disagree with Stoic virtue at all. Their four cardinal virtues are very good, and if anything the list is incomplete. I just don't think that apatheia equals happiness and therefore, I don't think that following the later Stoa can bring happiness either to you, to your loved ones, or to society.

>>20455319
>>20455319
i don't know about all that but i sat in the front of the class for a better view of the material i was learning

>>20456177
I largely agree and think your statement to be very reasonable, but it's not necessarily true that virtue requires hardship to manifest itself, virtue does not change relative to external conditions. It only takes different actions, but the Good remains whole whether in peace or war, reason takes different faces but its essence remains the same.

With regard to the altruism of feeding the poor, I think indeed you are not doing them any true Good - the only way you could perhaps do that is by working to free their soul from bondage (as you are trying to do with your own) - but you can still prefer that the poor not starve, if it's in your power. So not everything need be a pure virtue that you do of course (otherwise one would stop eating, drinking and allow the body to die from a lack of care), as long as it does not fall to the opposite such things can be preferential indifferents and can be done even if you do not recognise them as being of any true Good.

>>20452115
Dude was a total fucking faggot. Get drunk and fuck some slaves. No wonder his son turned into a fucking retard.

>>20453139
>Fucking barneyfag
I legit thought you died

>>20452108
Have you tried it?

>>20455501
true, literally why I quit academic philosophy and read literature now

>>20456107
???

>>20457845
No one knows where he is today.
He left his bot running, but the bot is getting sloppy.