/lit/ - Literature

only pack the boxes about half full with books or they will be insanely heavy

>>20441857
Im mostly concerned about damaging them

>>20441796
leave them

>>20441895
Then his advice is still valid. The other half is space for bubble wrap you yuppy bitch.

Small book boxes from u-haul.

t. just moved

get an ereader
keep only the books that you have sentimental value towards
donate the rest

>>20441908
This. Buy new ones, or get yourself a tablet

Just put them in the box. Its not complicated

>>20441975
>>20441951
>>20441908
absolute state of /lit/
>>20441979
Ok nigger is it better spine down? upright?

>>20442020
Dude they're just books. Put them in a box and move them. There isnt some esoteric method

Use special small boxes that are labeled for books. The ones I got are specially-reinforced and only 1 cubic foot and they were still heavy as shit. Buy a roll of packing paper and try to pack in the books tightly so they don't rub against each other too much (and start damaging covers/pages), but not so tightly that they're jammed in there. Fill any empty space left over with wadded up packing paper so the books don't shift too much in transit.

That's basically it. Spine down or up doesn't really matter. I would lay larger books flat on the bottom until they reached the top of the box, then put books in vertically in leftover space, then fill in the rest with wadded up packing paper.

>>20441796
make a nice bonfire
buy an e-reader
store 1000 books in its memory
and another infinity in your hard drive.

ps: if you own any valuable books, sell them to finance the purchase of the e-reader. but definitely burn the rest.

>>20442161
>cries about the library of Alexandria
>brags about his Kindle collection
Lmao

>destroy your paper books guys!
>just get digital copies!
*Amazon deletes your books*
*NSA wipes your harddrive remotely*
gg ez.

Everyone should keep hard copies of books they like and be prepared to make copies and spread them around when the inevitable public book bans come.

>>20441895
Unless you have some extremely rare or valuable books you really shouldn't worry about this. I moved my books twice in the last six months and didn't take any special precautions. Damages were negligible, if any.

>>20442161
>sun flare wipes out all electronics on earth
>heh nothing personal kid
Are you retards serious

>>20442028
Why do people think that they have to follow a pre-established system for putting books in a fucking box? I've stopped googling "how to X reddit" because I noticed this tendency within me.

>>20441857
Post body dyel

>>20442317
its not about following a system retard, why reinvent the wheel?

I have property I dont want to damage, Im going to go ask other people who own the same type of thing to see if there is some not so obvious thing to avoid

Any books about boxing books correctly?

>>20442385
Just chuck the books in the box faggot

>>20442385
>Im going to go ask other people
Stop doing this, now.

>>20442201
the library of alexandria wouldn't be a problem if we had the internet and HDDs back then.

>>20442290
nigger, if a sun flare wipes out all electronics on earth, im gonna have much bigger issues than the loss of my books.
like dying of starvation.
or due to mass rioting and looting.
im not gonna plan for that eventuality, ill plan for the eventuality where i survive and actually care about literature.

>>20441857
Zoomers struggle to pick up a box of paperback books? You should look up the old metal trunks we used to haul all our stuff around in.

>>20442563
But that's why you have your precious yummy bookerinos today. Scholars and monks decided fuck survival we need to preserve knowledge. You bitch made pseuds need to die.

>>20442563
books last a lot longer than harddrives

>>20442741
an individual books vs an individual hard drive, sure
but a book vs even a somewhat proper digital storage strategy?(raid + backups)
yea, no, sorry. the book loses.
nevermind that i don't actually HAVE to store books reliably, as i can always re-pirate them in the event of data loss.

barring civilization ending events (solar flares, nuclear wars, aliens showing up with nefarious intentions), digital books are more than adequate.
and in the event of those civilization ending events, the loss of books is not a major concern, because you'd be dead, immediately or very soon afterwards.

at any rate, i really don't give a shit which would last longer in theory.
electronic storage is perfectly adequate for MY future, in practice.
and if i have descendants, their future (and they can figure out their own resilient storage if they care to do so).
beyond that, i don't really give a shit.
especially since, in practical terms, e-reader + infinity pirated ebooks is WAY cheaper, WAY more portable and WAY comfier than buying, storing and reading physical books.

>>20442877
I dont really disagree with anything other than it being comfier, it is WAY more comfier to own your favorite books. I do have everything saved electronically but that is just a backup

>>20441895
Why? They're just books.

>>20443009
they cost money of which i have a finite amount
?????

>>20443015
>he has limited resources
ngmi

>>20443006
>it is WAY more comfier to own your favorite books
in what way, dude?

a good e-reader can be held comfortably one handed, including turning pages (hardware buttons), a book can't.
you can read at any light level. i still remember trying to read books in my childhood bed, always having to contort myself to catch the light from the nightstand properly
you can read in the tub if you want, there are several waterproof e-readers
you don't have to worry about spilling wine or chocolate milk on the book, or smudging the pages if your hands aren't super clean
if you re-read a book frequently, you don't have to worry about the binding getting fucked after a few years
when travelling, you don't need to carry several heavy ass books, the e-reader can hold thousands in less weight and volume than a single hardback.

the only advantage books have is their decorative value
i will concede a kino bookcase can look very good in the right space.
but other than that, fuck no, e-readers and e-books are way, way comfier than their physical counterparts.

>>20443027
Books have SOVL ereaders dont.
>but I can eat fast food trash without getting grease on my book with an ereader
is just a non argument in my mind because I would never be inclined to
>>20443022
yes im painfully aware

>>20443040
>muh SOVL
any real arguments?
no?
didn't fucking think so.

>>20443061
Appreciation of art doesnt need a snopes fact verified argument fucking amerishart pig, nothing you listed other than travel is a valid argument but thats just something to be had in addition to a physical library not in spite

>individually wrap each book in bubble wrap
>only place up to 4 MAXIMUM books in a single box
>make sure they're all from the same author, else they may take psychic damage
>bottom layer of packing peanuts
>layer books and packing peanuts until the box is full (last layer should be peanuts)
>close box and tape up
>write FRAGILE on every side
>write THIS SIDE UP with an arrow to ensure you, or the movers don't accidently place them upside down or sideways (this ruins the books)
>never NEVER stack these boxes on top of others OR stack others on top of them
If you've done this correctly you should be good, but it always helps to transport the boxes individually, too. Like in separate car trips. Good luck. You'll need it

>>20443100
>Appreciation of art
the art of a book is the content you pretentious faggot, not the physical artifact.
just admit you wanna show off your book collection to your normie friends so they'll think you're an intellectual.

>nothing you listed other than travel is a valid argument
every single think i listed is a valid argument
-books require 2 hands to use, at the very least for the page turning. ereaders don't
-books require specific lighting conditions to be used, e-readers don't
-books are not waterproof, e-readers can be and often are
-books can be smudged easily from food, drinks, sweat, dirt, fucking anything. a e-reader would merely require a wipe down.
-books can be damaged just by fucking reading them 3-5 times front to back. e-readers will last for several years of every day use no problem.

every single one of these is a valid argument.
you on the other hand, have presented exactly 0 arguments
and no, ad hominem doesn't count (im not american, btw. im greek. γαμώ τη μανούλα σου.)

>>20443128
I dont have friends cunt, i dont even have a smartphone that could take pictures to post here
>-books require 2 hands to use, at the very least for the page turning. ereaders don't
what the fuck else do you need your other hand for
>books are not waterproof, e-readers can be and often are
irrelevant. There is no situation in which youd be reading anything other than fictional escapism that would invovle water
>books can be smudged easily from food, drinks
you should not be eating when reading anyways fat fuck
>-books can be damaged just by fucking reading them 3-5 times front to back. e-readers will last for several years of every day use no problem.
if you are incapable of taking care of your possessions maybe

The experience of reading is part of the art. Much like the atmosphere in which you dine is part of the food or the location and situation in which you listen to music affects the mood

>>20443128
A more practical argument would be for any serious work of literature where one would want to take notes, physical is infinitely more convenient, going back to reference other pages, place sticky notes etc

>>20443153
>what the fuck else do you need your other hand for
You know what the fuck else I need my other hand for

>>20443153
>what the fuck else do you need your other hand for
vaping (smoking, a few years ago), scratching my balls, drinking, snacking, fingerbanging your mom/gf/sister/daughter, not necessarily in this order.
petting one's cat/dog would also be a valid answer, but i have no pets myself.

>irrelevant. There is no situation in which youd be reading anything other than fictional escapism that would invovle water
reading in the bathtub is kino
but personally i mostly need the waterproof feature for reading at the beach (or, more rarely, at the pool).
ive never dropped a book or e-reader in the water, but they do get wet from my hair/hands pretty often.

>you should not be eating when reading anyways fat fuck
fuck you ill do what i want
but admittedly, i rarely actually eat while reading

>if you are incapable of taking care of your possessions maybe
you're a retard. a book that is often re-read WILL degrade soon.
about 3-5 rereads will fuck with any paperbacks binding.
hardbacks are more durable, but they too can get damaged from simply turning the pages often enough.
nothing about this counts as misuse.
also, i have often fallen asleep with a book o e-reader in my hands.
can't recall damaging any books this way, but its conceivable that one could turn in their sleep and end up damaging the book.
an e-reader would be fine, ofc.

>>20443128
Lol look at this clumsy ass nigga. Can't turn pages with one hand. Jesus I share a board with actual invalids.

>>20443157
>any serious work of literature where one would want to take notes
i do sincerely hope you're not talking about writing on the fucking book?
which, ofc, you could do, in a non-destructive way, with an e-reader.
although admittedly current notetaking e-readers are either suboptimal as e-readers or as note-taking devices.
some are pretty decent at both, but none are truly great at both, yet.

>physical is infinitely more convenient, going back to reference other pages, place sticky notes
what in the fuck
e-books have hyperlinks in them to make navigation easier
and ofc you can place bookmarks and sticky notes

the only real issue with sort of academic usage is, as mentioned, none of the current devices are truly great at it.
but they're certainly better than having to juggle a physical book and a notebook at the same time.

have a look at the kobo elipsa and the boox note series.

>>20443185
show vid of you holding a book and changing pages with one hand.
do it once in the early pages, once in the middle, once near the end.
then ill take you seriously.

>>20443188
post it notes nigger why the fuck would i write on a book, but they are way easier to use and quickly reference than hyperlinks.

>>20443188
i was intending to get a boox note but for manga since i have to read it on my computer anyways id rather read on a portable device for volumes i cant afford

>>20443200
>but they are way easier to use and quickly reference than hyperlinks
wtf no they're not
if you wanna go to chapter so-and-so in a physical book, you have to turn to the contents, find the page number, and look for it
oh, and you better leave a bookmark on the page you were in before, otherwise good luck finding it easily
in an ebook, you hit index, hit chapter number, done.
wanna go back? no probs, hit the back button.

if you add notes to an ebook you can easily search them (and ofc search book contents, too), jump between them, save them as text for later use
also you can underline passages (again, not destructively) and copy passages easily

>>20443209
i don't read manga myself, but the general consensus is to get a fairly large device (8-10'')
beyond that, the boox devices are mainly recommended for their note-taking, you can probably get away with something cheaper that lacks those features.

>>20443009
I have books with cool covers that might not be very easy to get again if they're destroyed.

>>20443196
I'm drunk as fuck and I just one handedly read and flipped an old dusty copy of Thomas Brownes Urn-Burial in one hand you limp wristed bitch. Square up fool.

>>20443027
I have gone DEEP into archival storage, both for physical and digital media. Hard drives are garbage, including in RAID. What you want are M-DISCs. Those hard drives are going to fail, as you probably know, which is why backups like RAID exist. If you leave a server running for 50 years, everything is going to go to shit. It will all fail. You must maintain it by changing out the drives frequently. And if you leave those drives unplugged for 50 years, you're going to lose data. Bits degrade overtime, and if you don't re-write them before they're gone, they're gone. The only other option you have is magnetic tape drive, but those are susceptible to radiation—note "magnetic". They are also very expensive, and you will have a hard time finding one, if you aren't an institution, which you are not. I had a friend who said to simply print books. That's retarded. The failure rate of paper, vellum, and papyrus is immense. Clay and metal, and even the aforementioned physical media, have a place in archival storage, but they shouldn't be the only thing you rely on. M-DISC simply is the best archival storage solution out there. It will not degrade for 10,000 years. Forget about what the French said. The US says otherwise, M-DISC says otherwise, and independent consumer testers say otherwise.

>>20443312
ill take your word for it
but as i stated originally, im not overly concerned
im not an archivist, im a user
i have yet to have a hard drive fail on me (though i certainly recognize its a possibility)
and im relying on the internet to provide me with new copies of anything i might lose in the event that i do get a catastrophic failure.

i could also invest in cloud storage for my ebooks, the total GB footprint is quite small, so the costs would be low
but again, i see no reason too. if i lose them, ill simply visit libgen.

>>20443312
Based and archivistpilled. That nigga really thought humanities knowledge should hinge on the reliability of sea slave labor made hard drives. Pseuds I tell yah.

>>20443264
Anon, without using your earwax to grease up the book pages!!