/lit/ - Literature

Can the janitor please call the moderator in to help sweep this place out. It’s absolutely horrid. I don’t have the time to flag them all.

Please ban frogs and jacks. PLEASE

You didn't use the pic I asked for :(

determinism is far more motivating than probability

>>20436502
sorry! but schizos will sic the jannies on anything even remotely female in the OP. morrissey is as close as we can get. but do try next time if you're up for it!

>>20436512
How

>>20436515
Unfathomably based.
Read Whitehead.

>>20436518
it is far more possible to manifest a reason in living than what free will implies, “creating your own meaning” is self-deception

I got my pizza bros. I'm gonna eat the whole thing like the gluttonous sack of shit that I am

>>20436507
i was at a motorcycle dealership the other day and picking up on the interactions/convos between staff and customers in the background was soul-crushing. not to go all raskolnikov but people sure are fucking boring

>>20436529
also wouldnt it feel far more secure to actually do things under the context that they were supposed to happen

I used to be a jester. But I don't know if I was ever actually funny or not. I don't think I ever was. All I wanted was to make someone laugh. and that I couldn't even do.

>>20436530
>hey can i get uhh a turderita

>>20436493
Heavens know, Im miserable now.

>>20436529
I'm failing to see the connection between a probabilistic universe and relativism as relates to the meaning of life.

>>20436548
I dont get it

>>20436551
Well you know how normies say things like "maybe it's fate" or "everything happens for a reason"

The mental gymnastics of determinism provide a sense of security

>>20436551
because probability reduces the ability to logically justify certainties in life

>>20436543
same, heavy on the self-deprecation. then one time at a bar a guy took me aside and went "why are you so down on yourself bro" and that snapped me out of that mode completely, and now i'm lost, drifting

>>20436565
You mean material certainties. Thats not mutually exclusive to a kind of transcendentalism

I am not responsible for my own actions.

>>20436565
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

That's also why people blame victims of crimes

>>20436563
yeah I think determinism currently isn’t very reliable and free will can actually happen, but having security in reason can be nice

This pizza is mediocre. The cheese is like plastic.

>>20436574
i mean things like being able to conclude “logical necessities” too, like how Spinoza conceived it

>>20436558
do american pizzas have names? or do you just go "gimme a pie with pepperoni and peppers"

Living off borrowed time the clock ticks faster. Time is an exceedingly finite and rapidly shrinking resource. Once a moment passes it can never be relived. All the greatest men who have ever lived, for all their might and splendour and riches could not have traded it all for even an instant of additional time. Yet knowing this I refuse to do what I know must be done, I refuse to strive and struggle against Chronos. Instead I ruminate on the past and fantasise about the future. I am content to let the grains of sand fall towards the bottom of the hourglass.

>>20436587
I skipped the rationalists after descartes. You have to elaborate on that for me. Are you saying telos is kind a of logical necessity that only exists in a deterministic universe? Isnt that contradictory?

>>20436501
What an interesting life you must live....

>>20436592
each pizza place has its own names. They're usually generic like "Meat Lovers" or "The Supreme" or "[Name of Store] Special"
That being said most people just custom order a pizza and select their own toppings, so yes we usually say "gib me a small pizza with anchovies"

>>20436595
im saying that modalities are far more justifiable in a universe that is at least deterministic in some form

>>20436501
Not my problem. Keep it to yourself

>>20436603
In what way do modalities relate to a meaningful life?

>>20436594
baby steps

>>20436621
logical consistency and absence of self-deception

>>20436563
How do Christians square determinism and free will? Also, how do Catholics in particular square God’s grace with their own good works? It seems like you have to grasp one horn of the dilemma.

>>20436493
Have been trying to learn python but it's so hard and tedious.
But at this point idk what to do with my life. I have no real skills.
My options are:
1. Become a teacher. Which to me isn't an option as the idea of being stuck in a room with children sounds like hell on earth.
2. Continue waging in foodservice. Which I can't do forever and makes me want to die.
3. Try and get a boring office job and settle for mediocrity.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dear God

>>20436627
I was just reading an existentialist who criticized the rationalists for rationalizing away humanity into abstractions. He likes to say that man is flesh and bone and life is felt. Turning meaningfulness into a far away abstraction of modalities is what kills the human spirit.

>>20436629
No idea. They probably avoid thinking about that stuff

There is no freedom OF the will, but rather freedom FROM the will (one's habits of thought and desire.) This freedom is our ability to question our choices, desires, and experiences. Choice is the selective operation of thought, and questioning the mutagenic - by following our lines of inquiry we apprehend new choices.

Absolutely view the question mark as a holy symbol: only the question mark saves. Your freedom is entirely dependent on how effectively you question yourself and the world. The nourishment and cultivation of curiosity should be the primary goal of education at all ages. It should be the goal of civilization itself. Instead of wonder, both the educational system and modern civilization are built around instilling and promoting fear and obedience.

>There are two minimum conditions for achieving such a world of value. The first is a sufficiency of basic material goods and services for all, a condition not now present in American society, with its systematic deprivation of 40% of the people. The second condition is the will to create- the will to wonder, the will to consider great alternatives for self and society, and the will to try them out. The will to wonder, which comes easily for the well fed and well loved and well taught child, is a readiness to explore and hold one's mind open- a "negative capability" (Keats). The will to consider great alternatives- that is a philosophical attitude that requires honesty and courage toward oneself and one's society, and that in its aim toward the totality of truth (Hegel) leads to a will to act. Philosophy begins in wonder,but wonder begins in the child. And while philosophy in the full sense cannot be taught to the child, the philosopher who sets not just a professional but also a human value on wonder will be concerned about a society that inhibits wonder in the child and adult and thus inhibits the very reconstruction of society called for. For the inhibition of wonder carries with it the inhibition of feeling in general- compassion, commitment, indignation, aspiration- and the production of the conforming, authoritarian personality not uncommon in the U.S. today.
From https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/cross_fac/iatl/study/ugmodules/appliedimagination/readings/a_philosophy_of_wonder.pdf

>>20436629
Thats been an ongoing problem for the entirety of Church history. I reccomend looking into Augustine and his take on it for a foundation on the problem.

we could be heroes...

>>20436644

Music is so fucking good. In some way it's painful that I don't think I'll ever be able to fully comprehend how to make a composition. I know all my major and minor scales, I know chord progressions, can count rhythms. Even after knowing some music theory I should be able to break the facade and see music for what it is, yet its still so satisfying to listen to. But when it comes to keyboard for composition at most I can make a basic chord progression, and a pathetically basic rhythm, and then I can't even put the two together. Trying to make my own pieces, and understanding what the old masters had done, just makes me respect them all the more. There's a level of passion and genius that goes into a good composition that I'll never even be able to take the first step towards.

>>20436633
Im too trying to learn backend and frontend stuff but its so boring beyond belief. Also its terrible when I cant even put my newly learned "skills" into practice as I cant even land a job.

>>20436633
>3. Try and get a boring office job and settle for mediocrity.
why is this such a horrible thing to people. a decent wage to live on, injury-free environment and time to pursue your hobbies when the day is done. our ancestors coughed up their lungs and died in middle age after a couple of decades down in the mines
>settle for mediocrity
yeah bro this wouldn't be an issue for you if you weren't a mediocrity from the get-go. you're posting on 4chan, you're not napoleon

>>20436636
is it really a more sound choice to ignore what could be certain
existential justification of meaning demands one must discount consistency in favor of weakly founded faith

>>20436633
I would take the boring office job in your situation, boredom is much more manageable than foodservice and children.
Can't really relate though. I've never struggled too much with programming, I've been making shitty command prompt games since I was 12. Don't try to learn a specific language, rather try to learn how to make algorithms and understand basic programming structures like loops. Then you can apply your skill to all programming languages because learning the syntax of a new language is the easiest part.

What are some books you would consider to be """""red flags""""? In other words, books that would tell you something about someones character or personality solely on the fact that hes reading those books. I unironically think that glancing at someones bookshelf might be the best way to get to know somebody and understand the way they think, shame that nobody reads these days.

>>20436659
The Prince

I’ve been living with either one of my parents for the last 9 months to save money, but my relationship with them is not great and won’t be great. I’m glad I’ve been able to save money but this has been a mistake. I regret relying on them or trying to become closer. I’m so overcome with regret these days, about everything.

just got ghosted a day before our first date

>>20436659
Mishima, Junger, "dissident right" self-pubs like BAM.

>>20436654
I've taken the leap of faith and I am satisifed with it. It grounded me after getting lost in too many abtractions.

>>20436644
https://youtu.be/H0HsOKN3ly4
>"And you're just another hero, riding through the night"
>"Riding through the city, trying to lose your mind"

>>20436668
What are they red flags for exactly? What negative aspects of that person do those books convey?

>>20436670
I admit that my preference for this sort of thinking comes from permanent childhood emotions, but I still believe that pursuit of the absolute and truth should be strived for especially since its possible in the future that the definition of a human and reason can be actually understood further through inhuman intelligences and stuff

>>20436640
Would Confessions shed light on this? Also did it actually influence existentialism?

>>20436683
>inhuman intelligences
Do you mean AI or ETs? ETs,maybe, but not because they're better at computing data but because they also know the actual experience of sentience. I wouldn't rely on AI to evaluate meaningfulness in life because life is more than just isolated information figures strung along together. The meaning of life is found in actually living. Dont forget that you are flesh and bone.

>>20436676
Shitty views on mostly everything. Callous, hateful people at their core, whose interest in literature is nakedly utilitarian. Mishima and Junger were good authors but their contemporary fans ("readers" would be a stretch) are terrible.

>>20436696
Please, share with us what you read so we can laugh at you.

>>20436695
both would be extremely influential, if there was actually AI that was sufficiently advanced to develop itself comparable to humans but not innately connected to them

>>20436693
The Confessions is required reading just because it's the Confessions but it won't grant you much insight to that particular problem. Free will is something that Augustine struggled with his entire life. The sheer scope of Augustines works makes it better to just read a secondary source if you dont want to comit yourself to being a specialized Augustine scholar

>>20436701
Currently this.

Still no tracking information from Abebooks. Expected delivery date was today.

>>20436704
but yeah its very likely that its correct to say that our embodiment is necessary for our meaning

>>20436696
I was hoping for a more interesting response. It seems like your opinion is motivated by politics. Readers of those books are the other and must be hated.

>>20436653
>yeah bro this wouldn't be an issue for you if you weren't a mediocrity from the get-go. you're posting on 4chan, you're not napoleon
I'd be fine with a office job, or any job really but I still would like to do more with my life. No I am not Napoleon. I do not have delusions of grandeur, if anything the opposite.

>>20436501
FPBP

>>20436707
Not that anon but does it help to read confessions if Im having lack of faith?

>>20436738
Possibly. That really depends on your particular circumstance. Listening to other peoples testimonies has always helped my faith and The Confessions is a great testimony.
I read it recently after converting myself so I was full of faith and optimism at the time so I can't say too much about it.

>>20436530
nice 'chove 'za

I write in all lower case if I'm using a chiclet or touchpad keyboard and it drives a deep feeling of apathy about what I'm typing into me.

>>20436767
Grammatical ideasthesia

I don't think I'm gonna make it.

>>20436808
what does "make it" entail here

>>20436649
365 days in a year, if you took 20 or so minutes even every other day, on making a composition, you would make at least a few in a year.

You have to start somewhere, and after you start, you have to go somewhere from there, play some notes, they will suggest the possibility of being paired with some more, peer down the paths of possible notes, and choose the ones you want, you can always change them later.

Also can start in generalities, what type of piece you want to make, what kind of mood/s feelings, speeds, do you want to start with.

>>20436835
Becoming a maple syrup farmer

I'm basically Napoleon in 2022 sitting in front of a computer screen and browsing online culture

>>20436835
If you don't know, you're not gonna make it either

>>20436835
He forgot the butter for his corn bread
Make it he will not

I broke up the friendship with my best friend of 15 years. It was in the making for months if not years.
Basically he has no empathy at all, is autistic, stubborn and without respect for me. He bullies me, calling me insane, gay, arab rape baby, cuck, (yes, hes a poltard) bullies me together with his other friends, constantly mocking me, never laughs, mocks my christian faith, i put much more energy into sustaining friendship than he ever did. He smokes weed a lot with his other buddies, i never liked them cause theyre basically entitled, selfish, manipulative and childish bunch. The amount of namecalling, psychological torture i sustained over the years is incredible.
Sure we had fun, sometimes hes good mannered but its rare. We were really close, as much as you can be to a selfish manipulative autist.
Hold me bros

>>20436869
If Napoleon was born into our times he would be /here/ right now instead of being one of the most influential figures in all of human history.

>>20436906
sounds like you did the right thing anon.

I'm from Costa Rica
AMA

>>20436919
We don't care.

what tf2 class did u guys play?

>>20436922
Scout because I'm an impatient fucker and like running quickly across the map

>>20436915
Yes, i think so too but its hard, since i put so much of myself into the friendship.

The main emotion i feel like about all this is confusion. Not anger, not hurt, not betrayal, but confusion.
How can a man act like he did to me, to anyone, much less someone who is his friend?
How could i not notice this before? Why did i try so hard to make him reasonable and help him to no avail?
How can he treat me like that, knowing how rare friendship is these days, knowing how rare connection is these days, after 15 years of being best friends?
Maybe he doesnt know any better. I dont know

>>20436906
You put up with that for 15 years?

>>20436922
i play sniper and scout in competitive

>>20436919
Pal I'm from Los Angeles. I've met so many of you that it's not even interesting any more.
Though I used to get drunk with a costa rican dude. it was a wild time every time

>>20436906
>The amount of namecalling, psychological torture i sustained over the years is incredible.
>He bullies me, calling me insane, gay, arab rape baby, cuck
imagine calling someone that treats you like that your "best friend"... Also, are you Spanish?

>>20436954
>'ve met so many of you that it's not even interesting any more.
how and why?theres not a lot of ticos in the US.

>>20436947
Yes. Im an autist too, so i never fitted in with normies. We could talk about everything for hours, philosophy, politics, movies,( ok, now i see its mostly stuff hes interested in)
I always knew something is off with him, i think his mother was distant to him but im not sure, he just cannot develop mutual relationship in which he doesnt count every cent, in which he doesnt put up walls of irony cynicysm and distrust.
Now i basically have 2 friends, if even that

>>20436906
based, get this guy to board on here, he'll fit right in

guh buh duh buh duh poo HA HA HA HUH
Back when I was in highschool I saw this tard using his phone to take pictures and videos of girls' asses while they were walking down the hall. It was fucking hilarious. Based retard. I wish I had the lack of restraint required to chase my desires so freely. Tards are better than us.

>>20436493
when I finish a good book, sometimes I clap- Not for the author, just because I'm really happy

>>20436967
Well I've met enough for it not to be novel. This is basically where all of latin america comes to mingle.

>>20436919
any eccentric multi-billionaires reviving dinosaurs and building dinosaur-themed parks in your area?

>>20436970
I'll be your friend anon

>>20436975
when I finish a book i tend to fart and piss and shit my pants

>>20436963
No, slav and we were under arabs for a while. But even if i dont have arab descendants, according to him im still not white cause slavs arent white and he is, cause hes a jew. Maybe i shouldve mentioned earlier hes a jew cause that might explain all of this

>>20436985
You could have just said "I broke with my friend because he's a jew" and saved yourself a lot of writing.

>>20436983
Oke anon, wanna share discord or mail, im into exchanging long mails if u wanna

>>20436993
>>20436970
>>20436943
nigga, are you gay?

>>20437001
No

>>20436974
I wish I was a retard. Retards are too dumb to know suffering on the same level as us non-retards. They just live off of welfare and spend their days doing fuckall and they're too dumb to feel guilty about it. They have no restraint so they just chase their desires whenever they feel like it. All a retard knows is pleasure, they don't even have to take care of themselves. Being a retard must be bliss. I'm jealous of those retards who get jacked off by their hot mommy caretakers.

>>20436985
As I mentioned previously,>>20435494 the slavic people are predicted to be the last hold out for the Caucasian race (before they are bred in with the Asian population).
The white north and western European will be bred in with the African to create a new root race.
I'm not smoking crack. Just thought an autist or two would find it interesting.

>>20437017
>Mankind is obviously divided into god-informed men and lower human creatures. The intellectual difference between the Aryan and other civilized nations and such savages as the South Sea Islanders, is inexplicable on any other grounds. No amount of culture, nor generations of training amid civilization, could raise such human specimens as the Bushmen, the Veddhas of Ceylon, and some African tribes, to the same intellectual level as the Aryans, the Semites, and the Turanians so called. The ‘sacred spark’ is missing in them and it is they who are the only inferior races on the globe, now happily — owing to the wise adjustment of nature which ever works in that direction — fast dying out. Verily mankind is ‘of one blood,’ but not of the same essence. We are the hot-house, artificially quickened plants in nature, having in us a spark, which in them is latent” (Vol 2, pg. 421).
This is an exerpt from The Secret Doctrine from Blavatsky. Also, is that frog slavic or just into some mafia shit?

think I'm gonna start acting more like Dennis Hopper

I'm also lonely bros, incredibly lonely. I cope by listening to RHCP and drinking beer.

>>20437044
LETS HIT THE FUCKIN ROAD

>>20437036
Also from the Secret Doctrine.
>is that frog slavic
Now that you mention it...

Another saturday night spent browsing Yukkuri abuse. I'd call it a relapse, but honestly, i dont feel bad about it at all.

>>20436985
>>20437017
are you the same anon?

>>20437063
Part 2
>>20437056
I cope by listening to RHCP
That's how people start sucking cock, anon.
Stop it.

>>20437067
no

>>20436974
Maybe it's just lack of self-consciousness. I've always been way too self-conscious which meant I was too afraid to do anything at all around people.

>>20437044
i'm p sure i walked past dennis hopper once in manhattan and when he saw i recognized him he got this oh no i've been spotted doom cringe but i just kept walking past him this i don't give a shit about movies dude i have to go to work

>>20437067
Of course not, 2nd post is from some lunatic, wtf

How can you be motivated to do anything? Especially in this day and age?

>>20437080
thats rude bro

>>20437056
this chadly roommate who had a blonde live-in gf he made suck his dick all the time blasted rhcp on the day he finally moved out, i was like 2010s rhcp really is normie tier. their old shit was good though.

>>20437094
Sorry

>>20437066
i don't even wanna google that

Out-Of-Shape Stomach, Flabby Upper-Arms And Big Tits. Voluptuous Women Feel So Good To Hold!!

My goal and/or objective is to achieve union with God, with the One, the eternal being. /lit/'s fundamental error is the belief that he rational and analytical mind which produces thought is the supreme expression of what is perceived and defined as "intelligence" and therefore throught cognitive processes alone one is able to acquire knowledge or gnosis, eliminating all other forms of mystical and paranormal connections that lead to divine revelations (knowledge) with the field or what we might call God.

TL,DR: I will start tripping on psychedelics until I become a schrizophrenic or unitl I reach elightenment.

>>20437066
>>20437129
I looked up what that is and it's just fucking absurd instead of disturbing. Reminds me of the fluffy abuse threads that were on /b/ at the height of bronyism, but instead of pygmy fluffy ponies it's disembodied chibi heads of touhou characters. I could see why some people would be upset over it and why some people would like it but honestly it seems more like some surreal incidental creation of internet culture.

>>20437146
Dont do it. My brother developed schizophrenia from too many psychadelics. Its really fucked up.

>>20437163
What am I reading

>>20437146
used to do shrooms multiple times a week for over a year. not a good idea. you should do that with alcohol though

I’m lying in my absurdly oversized king bed in my apartment. There's too much space on this bed for one person. All I can think about is how nice it would be to have a girl lying next me. One who was in love with me.

I’ve been thinking about getting a gf a lot lately. It’s kind of consumed my brain. I swear an hour doesn’t go by that I don’t wish I had some romantic love in my life.

It’s not like that should be a priority for me, though. I'm unemployed. I get money to buy food by selling my blood plasma. My car is a real shitbox, it barely runs. I have no real hobbies or interests. I'm a terminally online loser, and about the only thing I do have going for me is that I do a lot of cardio and I’m pretty in shape.

>>20437174
Look at this shit. Some like it, others find it disturbing, but to me it's just fucking absurd and surreal. I'm happy this thread showed me this strange little pocket of the internet. It's a reminder that we live in one of the most amusing times in human history.

>>20436493
damn waiting for the plane at the airport is boring as shit. I rather drink paint and wait to see the results

I'm a pseud and I'm proud of it!

>>20437177
material conditions aside, are you as a person worthy of being loved, adored, trusted?

>>20437091
That's the eternal question but i'm not sure what you think is particularly bad about this day and age? wahhh, access to consumer products is getting more expensive, wahhhh, most people are braindead degenerates?

They stole my checkbook, they put me in a psych ward.

My soul cries out for vengeance towards you and your alpha goon squad. Yeah I had some material comfort, but you never had to experience the fucking cost of it. The night terrors, the tears.

Why, oh why would you choose to torment and exploit me of all people?

>>20437217
>They stole my checkbook, they put me in a psych ward.
great opening line

>>20437203
I think so. What is the criteria for being loved?
I’m generally a very empathetic person.

>>20437171
what if schizophrenia is just another altered state in the evolution of consciousness?
>>20437175
and, are you a schizophrenic now?

>>20437227
good, i hope you get a cuddly gf. she won't just stumble ass first into your lap though!

>>20437234
I’m afraid of bothering people though, and of being an obnoxious male. I know a lot of women have men unwantedly hit on them, and I don’t want to put a girl in that position where she’s uncomfortable. I’ve thought before about asking this girl out who is sort of a friend of mine if she wants to go out, but I don’t know if she’s already seeing someone and I wouldn’t want to fuck things up between us

>>20437070
interesting stuff, anon. Have you read The Secret Doctrine? I started reading it and was honestly impressed at the level of schizo masonic stuff in there,lots of interesting stuff but lots of rambling about random and weird obscure shit too. That being said Blavatsky was right about lots of things and to think that she was able to write all that stuff in the 1800's is also fascinating, some even argue that if it wasnt for Blavatsky and theosophy, indian philosophical thought would have never reached the west the way it did.

>>20436434
I'm almost done with my coom backlog, just one more depraved fantasy. I'm going to abstain for a few days though so I can get the most out of my bustin'.

how does one go about acquiring a /lit/ pilled gf? any ideas?

>>20437184
Well i was gonna delay drinking for a couple hours but this inspired me to start right now
who am I kidding I just wanted an excuse to drink

I'm very good at starting new books, not so good at finishing them.
>>20437200
same, you get more mileage out of being a dilettante

>>20437275
All the /lit/pilled girls are lesbians, your only hope is to get a gf then try to get her into /lit/erature. Unless by /lit/ you mean any girl that reads. Then there's no need to worry, there's a ton of women who read shitty YA fiction.

>>20437275
Ive been trying bookstores, libraries,and cafes for weeks. I just dont know

>>20437290
>Then there's no need to worry, there's a ton of women who read shitty YA fiction.
lol no, what I want is an /x/+ /lit/ schizopilled gf.

>>20437275
university, pottery readings

>>20437304
If you want a /x/ girlfriend your best bet is to summon her.

>>20437304
You mean a bpd nymphomaniac who will accuse you of rape and ruin your life

>>20437205
It feels like my options are severely limited. There are so many things that my ancestors took for granted; getting married, starting a family, having friends who don't move away (16/18 of my friends emigrated to the West). I've accepted that I can't live like my ancestors did but I'm unsure of what to do next

>>20436493
I really wish I could write. I've had moments where I started building a cool narrative, where I went full on art author fag by relating things to another and make these chains of references to literature and history, but it just never works out. I can't write it down. I feel like the guy in Kierkegaards Repetition who once dictating his ideas to Constantine fails to make something coherent or finished and at best rants for an hour to CC who's writing it all down until he embarrassed himself enough to give up on writing entirely.
I wish it was just uni, that's been fucking me rough from behind, but I'm starting to fear I'm literally not made out for writing. I've been suspecting that given the considerable struggle I'm in whenever I'm forced to write uni papers. I could chalk it up to writing about many different areas, most of which I only care marginally about, where you at best even as a creative can come up with your typical brainstorming and office meeting ideas of "wouldn't x make for something interesting," but that just seems like a lame excuse.

Unfortunately writing's all I wanted to pursue after finishing my studies, I study something entirely useless of course, and anything else would involve going to school for longer and doing something different and taking on a job that's all about responsibility and perseverance in one of the most competitive fields, which both sound terrible given that I already hated the time I've done until now and that I'm starting to fail because of my lacking work ethic. It doesn't help that I'm seriously considering dropping out because of some bureaucratic hoops I've put off until the end, so which have come up now that I'm finishing up.
And yet I can't because of my ego. I know the people who will graduate, I know the people in class. Being a reasonable and intellectual person who can formulate significant thought doesn't seem to correlate all too much with researching dozens of works, citing secondary sources and writing a final opinion that because of the scope of things considered is seen as good work for such a student; and I know that's what they will do even in their PhD, shat out two-three years PhDs these guys will write, and everyone knows it, yet they don't seem to morally object to that. I am ranting a tad bit much here, I am aware of it.

I'd want to take the chance to sit down for a year and just try writing even though I might well fail the possibility of failure that I'd have nothing after dropping out and taking a year to write scares me enough to just endure unhappiness. And that doesn't consider that if I could finish a work but it was terrible I'd rather not write at all.

Is J.G. Ballard any good? High-Rise sounds particularly interesting to me.

>>20437325
No, I mean some goth gf with big tits who will tie me up and extract my seed just to perform weird occult rituals...after shes done she will read something interesting to me till I fall asleep.
that sort of stuff

>>20437352
Thats what I said. A bpd nymphomaniac

>>20437146
Schizophrenia was the original state the ego evolved from. It's likely the bible and the other old works were created during Bicameral left brain/right brain split schizo times

>t. Julian Jaynes
>>20437171
This is true. Psychedelics, or LSD at least induce a period of temporary schizophrenia

>>20437345
Just write
You're really over thinking it. If you don't think what you wrote was good then you don't have to share it with anyone.

>>20437345
>relating things to another and make these chains of references to literature and history
This is lame and about as far from art as you can get. Nerd shit.

>>20437360
>A bpd
No, last thing I want in my life.
>>20437360
>nymphomaniac
no problem with this whatsoever

>>20437363
>Schizophrenia was the original state the ego evolved from. It's likely the bible and the other old works were created during Bicameral left brain/right brain split schizo times
were you by any chance the anon who linked on some thread the Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku?

Im about to drink a couple of beers, solitude is killing me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKlGFCGTJQ

>>20437390
Never understood why nymphomania is seen as a bad trait in a partner to some people. I would to be with a girl who's down to fuck whenever.

>>20437430
because she will cheat on you repeatedly and hates herself

>>20437430
god, I hate vegans

>>20437436
She won't cheat on me if I fuck her hard enough. Maybe I'll tie her up and leave her in the closet when I have to leave the house so there's no way she can cheat on me.

>>20437365
I did but at this point I don't even have the words anymore. I sit down and get stressed when it's too formal like right now at my work desk. When I have a breather during the day I go to a café and try to write there, it sort of works, but the thought clings too much to this associative: I'm writing about what I see right now, and I can't seem to continue writing whatever I left unfinished before returning home.

All I can do is write again and again about why I cannot. That seems to work out fine. It's a kind of coping mechanism, I often don't look at the replies.

>>20437374
I don't read enough fiction to write good modern novel dialogue, and I don't talk to people much anymore, so what I do all day when not working is look at landscapes and buildings, walk again the same three or four streets in the historic city in live in and look at stuff I haven't noticed before, why something has a nice composition, what I like &c. and so on. That's what sticks most visually for me from the things I could describe.
When you're already leaving behind the whole notion of real people doing real people things I think you can go all out and be a bit mythical, use more interesting imagery than you would when you were focusing more on dialogue. I'm fascinated by these compositions people used to make where they would just describe things (Le Paysan de Paris, Ein Flaneuer in Berlin). I think that's at the root of literature more so than all the speech dominated dialogue we have that is only there to do something speech can't actually do: further the plot, and that's as I said what I've been doing all day for months. It also hasn't been done since a hundred year or so, at least not that I know of, Benjamin wrote about it somewhat extensively the same way he wrote about Baudelaire. (For which we have an ongoing thread on here right now.) But this is a bit rough the way I describe it.
I'm also trying to make something complex to challenge myself a bit academically, if that was to be the sum of what my education mounted up to.

I’m giving her another shot bros, I read her book the waves and didn’t care for it, but a lot of anons said this one would be better.

>>20437428
Same

>>20437436
There are many of them that get too attached to cheat and fear abandonment severely.

books to read with the Danny Mullen feel?

Atheist worldview makes no sense. What's the point of doing anything for anyone if we die and it's over? Why not just kill yourself and do away with all the suffering?

>>20436493
Fuck is going on with 4chan?

>>20437533
>Why not just kill yourself and do away with all the suffering?
right back at ya, christcuck. heaven beckons

>>20437543
Because I am God's drunkest driver and he put me on this earth to smite jaywalkers

>>20436493
DON'T MURDER ME
I BEG OF YOU DON'T MURDER ME
PLEASE DON'T MURDER ME

>>20437533
Because there's more to life than suffering.

I want to find love. I enjoy nothing in life anymore. The bedbugs are still troubling me too.

>>20437542
>phoneposting
>not using https
I have nothing but utter disdain for you.

>>20437568
What? Pleasure? You only live to gain some pleasure every now and then?

>>20436512
hard disagree.

anyways what do anarchists mean by horizontalism?

>>20436579
nothing wrong with that. most people, in a sense, usually predicate what might become, and bring things into "being" with their own thoughts and symbols

Alright bros, a night of drinking alone begins now

>>20437678
this is me right now anon, drinking beers, listening to some jazz and watching danny mullen. WIll later drink some whiskey and maybe watch some classic western films
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prDLz4QQbEM

>>20436493
listening to lowell george and thinking, this man died of a pizza

>>20437691
I'm having some beers down by the river. I'll go home in an hour and watch the replay of Metokurs stream. I'm pretty invested in this e - drama. Then I'll put on some gritty 70s b list horror.

>>20437711
>Metokurs stream.
is that eh e-celeb drama with Nick Fuentes? QRD?

>>20437719
Yeah theres been a lot of Nick Fuentes drama. I'm not sure how it all started, but apparently everything went to shit for him right after he decided to get close to Ethan Ralph.
His ex best friend did a deep exposé of all Nicks weird habits. And just the other day it appears that Nick had a tranny porn tab open while he was doing a screen recording.

I'm tired

I am beyond black pilled about my future. I’ve thought about roping but I think I’m not going to. Still, I don’t know how I’m going to cope with this. I’m already old ffs.

Listening to Alex Jones

>>20437254
Check out Steiner's Materialistic, Hygenic, and Eugenic races for an elaboration on that Theosophical idea.
He actually breaks down how this new monad comes to be.

>>20437790
I stopped listening to Jones when they booted him off youtube. Whats he up to these days?

>>20437799
hey predicted monkeypox

>>20437808
Predicting that millions of immigrants from undeveloped countries would bring disease isnt that difficult to do.

>>20437814
>he fell for the bat origin meme
all of these pathogens are made in bio labs, retard.

>>20437825
I didn't even mention covid. What are you talking about?

>>20436530
pizza smells like petrol

>>20437843
How did you come to that conclusion?

>>20437846
By sniffing pizza

>>20436653
terrible people and shitty politics
i dread becoming one of them

>>20437853
maybe you should sniff petrol to confirm that it smells like pizza

>>20437860
>shitty politics
who fucking cares lol

>>20436633
fug off we're full

>>20437864
What? I sniff petrol all the time

im ddddrunk as fuck

>>20437871
huh

>>20437872
How many drinks have you thus far consumed

>>20437878
3 large beers and a glass of whiskey now.

>>20437885
Psssshhh thats nothing

>>20437430
>>20437441
as an agp nymphomaniac giwtwm

I don't understand how someone could brutally murder children, just on some whim. how is this possible? It is depressing

I want a gf but just thinking of the waste of time and energy it would take to have a gf makes that thought quickly fade away.

also im UNVAXXED and dating a vaxxed normie is the last thing I want, yet 99% of females are vaxxed. Its fucking over for us purebloods

>>20437900
Do you want to be my gf (male)?

>>20437909
This world is full of monsters
Rapists, nazis, child pornographers, and cannibals, and politicians too
There’s someone in the dark waiting to strangle you

>>20437866
>you'll become an outcast
>you'll be held back from promotions and good opportunities
>you'll be transferred to shitty offices with bad management
>you'll be excessively bothered for bullshit work
>etc

>>20437917
i don't pass
i like women

>>20437921
>nazis
>monsters
Nazis are the ones who fought the monsters.

>>20437937

Is it actually uncommon for people to envision their own suicide?
Like, not necessarily be actively planning it, but you can see it happening in your mind, like shooting yourself in the head or sitting in a parked car with the windows up and a hose inside connected to the exhaust?

I don’t actually plan on killing myself, but I am depressed and thinking about ending my life gives me a sense of catharsis. There’s no way people don’t think about it at least a few times, right?

>>20437930
Thats okay I am also a woman (male)
We'll be bondage lesbians (males) lol

>>20437947
I can't tell you if it's uncommon among other people but I frequently visualize my own suicide, usually by blowing my brains out. A cold metal barrel in my mouth is a common daydream of mine at this point.

>>20437947
>gives me a sense of catharsis
what does it make you think

IM SO FUCKING LONELY

i just want to be loved, to experiennce love. to have someone tell me how much they love me

>>20437981
I’ve envisioned it a lot too, thinking about if I’d have it in my mouth at an angle, aiming for my cerebellum, or if I’d just shoot for my temple. I don’t have access to a firearm that I’d do it with, but a shotgun would be too messy I think.
All of that is very unlikely to happen though. Like I said, I’m not planning on ending my life. But there’s all this stuff out there that says you’re in danger if you’ve ever thought about killing yourself. I have a hard time believing people don’t think about dying on regular.

>>20438004
step 1: stop frogposting

>>20437995
It’s just a comforting thought, if things were too much I could just end it. Kind of like playing an extremely difficult or maybe tedious video game, you can always turn it off

>>20438011
No

I'm usually terrified about taking off my shirt around other people because I have horrible acne and pectus excavatum but last night I had a dream where I was jogging shirtless around my old hometown, and didn't care about my bodily insecurities, and it felt good, unfortunately I was bullied a lot for my acne and chest deformity so I don't think I'll ever work up the confidence to be shirtless around anyone ever again. My dreams aren't usually memorable but I'll cherish the feeling of confidence I had in that dream.

>>20438011
get help

>>20437977
we should find a lady to tie us up why is bondage so appealing anyway

>>20438033
I don’t see the appeal but then again my kink is fat girls
Everyone’s got their vice

>>20437930
>>20437977
these are the anti frog posters LMFAO

>>20438007
From what I know it's better to have it in your mouth pointed at your cerebellum, as that kills you pretty much instantly. If you shoot at your temples you won't be completely severing the nervous system, rather you would just turn parts of your brain to mush and there's still a chance of survival which would leave you as a vegetable for the rest of your life.
>>20438021
I live by this exact same line of thought. If shit gets too bad, I can just kill myself. I think this mindset is dangerous though, it means that I never really take life too seriously so I never try to better myself and get to a position of security and success.

>>20438046
i'm not a tranny man you understand it wrong

>>20438033
I really dont know. Ive always loved bondage and it actually perplexes me that most people don't.

this insomnia is going to mcfucking kill me

>>20438046
i'm not anti frog

DOES LIFE EVER feel like we all live in the clutches of tyrannous monsters that thrive off of abusing us?

>>20438072
I'm convinced that happy and successful people aren't real, they're just flesh automatons put here on Earth by the demiurge so that I would suffer when I see what I'm missing out on.

>>20438023
suit yourself
>>20438028
im fine thanks

>>20438104
>suit yourself
I think I will

>>20438114
i wish you luck in your quest for love

>>20438114
Fuck frogs

Toads 4 life

>>20438080
I'm convinced of a crypto supremacist zionist global cabal that controls people through a fully operating mind control matrix of which they use to influence and control the zeitgeist and individual actors, and have a strange inclination to use the color yellow as one of their thematics when conducting societal disorder around the world
>see yellow vest protest
>hong kong
>BLM
>elden ring
>twenty one pilots trench
and other assorted media which may or may not be related, but don't worry PURE SPECULATION and there's literally NOTHING you faggots NEED TO LOSE YOUR MINDS OVER (hehe) and basically they have psychic terror weapons that can break your fucking mind while you sleep which I don't find fun at all

plausible deniability etc. Suck my dick you nigger faggots.

All parasites must hang.

>>20438135
whatever you say officer

>>20438135
That's cool man but I don't remember asking

>>20438140
>>20438142

Sort of like the noosphere.

like LAIN cunny.

I wish instead of a schizo being targeted by archons I wish I was an archon tormenting schizos because I think it would be funny.

I think the cryptic overarching memes and symbology is cool but the insane abuse and parasitic exploration of man should awaken a deep fucking feeling of wrongness inside anyone whos ever gone far enough to see what we're participating in.

>>20438162
You can also suck my dick.

drinking some yerba mate

>>20438123
My lovequest for a boyfriend free girl is merely begun

>>20438162
That'd make for a good novel

>>20438170
I'm not your mate

My mom keeps buying me soda even though I only drink water, but I don't have the heart to tell her that I hate any drink that isn't water, she seems to enjoy buying me soda specifically even though it's everyone else in the house that drinks it.

Hold on, just imagine using a weird halo mascot to talk shit about an abuse victim.

Like, just imagine a kingly noble commissioning a jester to ridicule a malnourished peasant for looking at him wrong

>>20438173
why are you gay

>>20438184
>weird halo mascot
Way to out yourself as a hylic. I hope you slaves to the demiurge suffer the full pain of this cursed plane we live in. I might even ask the demiurge to make me an archon so I can torment you specifically.

>you will live on ze virtual pod
https://www.msn.com/en-ae/money/news/davos-turns-to-the-metaverse-as-world-economic-forum-unveils-new-platform/ar-AAXCcrw

>>20438196
I hate this attempt to superimpose a virtual reality onto our current one, but I'm not gonna bother going against it as long as I'm not forced into it. A world where everyone else is sucked into the metaverse while I'm free to wander the Earth on my own sounds very peaceful.

>>20438190
The internet frog warped my sexuality

>>20438195
suck my dick you dumb freak.

Anyways they will create an mix raced underclass controlled by a eunuch managerial class and they've groomed individuals to become mass murderers

You may not know it yet, but you faggots are living in hell and I hope someday it'll become SO FUCKED UP for you that you won't be able to explain it all away with midwit tier rhetoric and finally realize the world your participating in has invisible villainous orchestrators that have been groomed to physically, mentally, and spiritually create a universe of psychological terror and oppression.

>>20438206
my bad, I only read
>My lovequest for a boyfriend

I have no fire
but a desire
to not hear you say:
I have a boyfriend

Describing love as an active process that has slowly been diluted and transformed as hypercapitalistic culture becomes more and more inculcated in modern man's mind citing works such as Fromm, Erich. The Art of Loving (1956) and Baudrillard, Jean. Simulacra and Simulation (1981). Do you agree? and are there any books that discuss topics further?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcbEiZQ9B7o

>>20438215
It seems like you're the one living in a hell of your own making, Anon. Misery loves company - you want us to join you.
The status quo wants you to be miserable, hateful, helpless and alienated. You're nothing but a glowie without a badge.

Let's hear some cunning cryptic dialog, hold on lemmie groom a lone teenager to murder children

>>20438224
I don't ever want to hear a woman's opinion on love ever again. Women are more likely to initiate divorces, cheat, have more sex partners, and are hypergamous. "Love" to a woman is a man that checks all the boxes her absurdly long checklist of attractive physical features and life accomplishments. Love to a man is just a girl that will stay by his side.

>>20438243
t. stereotypical resentful incel

>>20438243
She’s explaining what these authors have written on this topic you have a stunted idea of. Her opinions do filter through, but they’re not bad opinions. She actually bitches out those kinds of women. So watch it before commenting.

>>20438255
No one ever tries arguing with an incel. It's always just name calling. "Haha I called you an incel." Yeah, I'm a fucking incel, what of it? Prove me wrong about women being pieces of shit that don't deserve rights.

>>20438277
Why would I try to argue with crazy?

>>20438278
"Crazy" doesn't mean wrong.

>>20438224
>>20438260
She's blaming capitalism for something that's the fault of women's liberation.

>>20438224
are you the transexual commie?

>>20438283
>Don’t pick on muh poor innocent capitalism! You heartless wench!!!

>>20438285
Nope. Lesbian turf anarchist.

>>20438300
>turf
terf?

>>20438300
fuck capitalism and fuck communism, midwits are not able to understand that under both systems youre a slave to the system

>>20438309
Yes. Spellcheck mishap.

>>20438314
Yeah. But “communist” Russia was doing a form of capitalism, as is “communist” China. I would prefer not to of course.

>>20438338
>that wasn't real communism
every goddamn time

>>20438224
sounds really cringe. But the movie idea of love has ruined the minds of men and women and dating apps don’t help, everyone knows this and has their own tolerances. The alternative is arranged marriage where the families united by matrimony matter more than the whims of the individuals getting married.

>>20438224
Arent you a 50 year old virgin? Wtf do you know about love?

>>20438224
I shouldadd that gook is really cute. I cured my jungle fever but caught the yellow fever

>>20438283
Capitalism is why women’s liberation even occurred lmao
Not a commie but it is why women have replaced the cult of domesticity with the cult of work

>>20438338
>lesbian
>feminist
>communist
>tripfag + namefag
checks out.
Are you one of those brown obese lesbians?

>>20438343
>China is real communism
Well, I am an advocate of anarchism.
In before that tard who claims anarchism is just fascism.

>>20438352
>sees one attractive girl of a certain race
>proceeds to fetishize the whole race
man what the hell

>>20438243
based king

>>20438414
You mean wizard

>>20438444
Sexually-defective wench is jealous that my Chasity grants me magical powers.

>>20438413
Ive been lusting for gooks for about a year now. I live in an area heavily populated for them.

>>20438444
Checked. Also, why are you a terf? Arent you aware that transphobia is not allowed in 2022 and that transfemales are actually women?

>>20437927
the bible doesn't say anything about stealing money from self-evidently evil people

>>20438449
You ain’t a king.

>>20438473
I exclude the term because no such transition takes place. Being socialist I don’t buy their propaganda. No one should.

>>20438488
who's stealing they're making you go through a lot for very little money

>>20436493
from now on, anyone who asks for pessmistic lit I will straight tell them to go eat shit. this place is like a magnet for these idiots.

>>20438493
I'm interested in your perspective regarding the tranny phenomenon. Why do you think its being pushed so hard lately?

>>20438493
You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time

>>20438510
Not same anon but I think its tangibly related to uncanny valley

>>20438072
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?

>>20438527
Do you come from a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
YOU BETTER RUN YOU BETTER TAKE COVER

>>20438051
>I think this mindset is dangerous though, it means that I never really take life too seriously so I never try to better myself and get to a position of security and success.
Fuck, you’re just like me. My mother tells me all the time I need to start taking control of my life. I think the reason I have done nothing to improve my position is because, like you said, I’ve just internalized this idea that I’ll just let things keep happening to me and if it gets bad enough I can kill myself. I don’t even know how to help myself anymore. I’m the definition of passive

>>20438514
Elaborate

bros she was in my dream again

she was there for me

cute as always

I hugged her before saying goodbye

>>20438552
The appearance of them resembles cyborgs if observed closely. I did a video rant on this on jootube and ended up getting someone butthurt. My worst video I did was critiquing Mark Fisher which got me scolded by hundreds of people, and the one where I called Philosophy Tube a "transtrender" got people fuming as well.

>>20437304
>x/+ /lit/ schizopilled gf
Stop trying to contact me, I am doing important work

>>20436659
You need to weigh the whole book collection. If you see meme books of a certain focus in great number, then they might be very pro or very against. Usually it's pro, but it's also common to obsessed opponents. If they have lots of contradictory memes, they might read both sides of what's popular to form their own opinions, but by virtue of having lots of memes, they still care about what's popular. They all reveal power level unless they use a library or constantly resell.

>>20438566
I’ll cast a spell on you
To make you love me

>>20438566
You're not a female, theres no females here on /lit/ or /x/ or any other board. Anyone larping as a female is definetely a deranged man

>>20438564
Post your channel

>>20438588
It’s crazy how pussy-repellent 4chan is
Well maybe not crazy, it’s a rabidly misogynistic environment, but it’s resulted in me barely ever interacting with the opposite sex since I’m such a shut in. Women might as well be an alien culture

>>20438598
>rabidly misogynistic environment, bu
Because females are known for being so kind to each other.

>>20436659
Hateful literature or literature that is co-opted by hateful antisocial people. If it’s the latter, it can be unfair to the writer, as one can’t choose their own fans and followers, but life isn’t fair. The big key though is that these types of books have to take up a large portion of the total library, or fit in with a general theme. Also if there are individual red flag books in a small collection. For example a WW2 history buff who owns Mein Kampf, wouldn’t set off red flags. If someone has 20 books with Mein Kampf and BAP among them, I’d judge. It’s all about using discretion when judging

>>20438614
you’ve gotta admit that it’s taken for granted that everyone posting her is a man, and if a poster claims to be a woman they’re immediately told to fuck off or show tits. There’s a mentality about the opposite sex that seems needlessly hostile

>>20438622
>muh hate

Whoever makes next thread use tbis image

>>20438640
Who are they?

>>20438658
No idea. They cute tho.

I’m 29 and haven’t really made progress towards what I really want to do yet and I’m really insecure about that. I’ve started to feel like I actually can’t do it at all.

I started a coom folder about a month ago and I already have 350+ pics of anime girls in it. I should feel ashamed but for some reason I'm proud. I never expected to get that much ecchi in such a small amount of time.

>when you realize butterfly has good taste in women

>>20438690
Stop giving the tripdyke any form of attention please. Thanks.

>>20438693
I just want her to post more coomer pics

>>20438510
I’m personally tired of it.
Don’t normally like Bill Maher, but this was a good take
https://youtu.be/2MdKg5syd6k

>>20438676
They do

>>20438705
I dont have a half hour to watch that. Whats the qrd on it

>>20438588
I’m curious how we went from “tits or gtfo” to “ywnbaw” and just assuming every self-proclaimed femanon is a tranny. Irony poisoning?

>>20438724
Tits or gtfo is a meme from before trannies were a big thing

>>20438623
The only people who post they're a women *want to be asked for tits* Why do you think the tranny butterfly keeps bringing up he's a grill? Because he wants to distribute some old ass stolen camgirl pics and get asked about his tits without it being a weight concern.
Womens don't post they're womens. It's not like women are retarded enough they don't understand TITS OR GTFO. Even butterfly isn't that retarded and he's an internet tranny larping as a terf because he thinks that might get him laid better than "male feminist"
>tl;dr- you are the only one that retarded

>>20438724
Theres literally an /lgbt/ board and its 95% transexuals.

>>20438754
Are you saying I have a chance to fuck butterfly?

>>20438759
If you show him your tits, sure

>>20438754
>Womens don't post they're womens.
Neurodivergent trans black radical marxist female here, can confirm.

>>20438773
Thanks for joining in Rachel, no one wants to see your tits

New thread
>>20438799
>>20438799

>>20438588
/x/ is pretty high in crazy woo woo levels to not have women

>>20438224
Misses the point of Baudrillard, commodifies philosophy with cheap Youtube advertising

>>20439023
>Lives on fourchan
>forgot how to greentext

>>20438682
Should I feel bad about it?