/lit/ - Literature

is there any good adult fantasy for me to read
something like lord of the rings with war and politics and different species of people intermingling, but preferably with more gore and sex and racism and gratuitous detail about burning down towns

scifi is ok too

Are there any good non-japanese fantasy books about owning slaves?

>>20427550
Witches of Karres

>>20427520
Song of Ice and Fire. At least the first three books anyway.

Looking for (((FASCINATING))) exploration sf /f books

>>20427228
>>20427340
>You fucking asshole low level fights are the best part.

Azarinth Healer starts when the MC goes to the caves near the city. Until then it's barely readable, and that's with a rewrite that the early chapters had gotten at some point. Then Illea, the main character, starts fighting for real and the story shows its claws.

By the way, Azarinth Healer may be the most fascinating webnovel ever written. It's bad. Like, writing is genuinely bad, and the world-building for the first few hundred chapters is not just uninspired, but not even original as the author shamelessly inserted things from popular games without restrain (straight up adding Dwemer's lost civilization from Elder Scrolls, with only the name changed, probably the most shameless thing I've ever seen).

And you know what? It's the most purely enjoyable webnovel I've read. Royalroad's darling, one of the most successful stories on Patreon, with 3.750 patrons at its peak, most paying 15$. The amount of raw, unpolished joy this power progression story gives is staggering. No other story has such a good balance of LitRPG numbers, actions and progress. This webnovel is the definition of 'Guilty Pleasure.' I drop webnovels left and right for any offense, but AH I've been reading for years. To make it funnier, the author hasn't improved a lot, the writing still reads kinda horrible.

But the story? It's pure adventure. Like a singleplayer Open World RPG game, but as a story. Any aspiring writer should study Azarinth Healer to discover how to write something that succeeds in spite of all its flaws solely due to how damn FUN it is.

By the way, the irony of the most juicy popcorn power fantasy LitRPG having a Female Main Character is hilarious beyond belief. I remember having mad amount of respect years ago for the author when he wrote the character having sex with a MAN. It might sound silly, but a lead female character having straight (well, Illea is bisexual, but whatever) sex is a big no-no, people literally can't bear it and drop webnovels over it, even curse the authors. That's why every lead is male or at most female lesbian.

>>20427583
>LitRPG numbers
Do soulless oriental bugmen really?

>>20427550
>Are there any good non-japanese fantasy books about owning slaves?
I guess something like Super Sales on Super Heroes is what you seek.

>>20427583
How long does it take to get to the city? Because the beginning is indeed pretty unreadable so far.

>>20427594
>Do soulless oriental bugmen really?
Azarinth Healer is the most western story imaginable. Not a speck of China, Bugmen or anything like that in it.

>>20427599
>How long does it take to get to the city? Because the beginning is indeed pretty unreadable so far.
I checked, around chapter 9 she's in the city. And it's worth reading if you like LitRPG, it's a genre classic, massive pay-offs for reading.

>>20427520
>is there any good adult fantasy for me to read
>something like lord of the rings with war and politics and different species of people intermingling, but preferably with more gore and sex and racism and gratuitous detail about burning down towns
Id like this too but without sex and people intermingling

>>20427520
>>20427607
The Malazan books. For a real challenge start reading with Forge of Darkness or The God is Not Willing.

>>20427635
what do you mean by challenge?

>>20427641
Go in without knowing what happens eons after, or a decade before. They are a prequel and a sequel series respectively. To the main Malazan Book of the Fallen 10 book series and the 6 book Novels of the Malazan Empire . Though the authors recommend publication order.

>>20427635
Why not just the series from beginning?

>>20427669
gardens of the moon is free for me. is it good?

>>20427595
Seconded.

>>20427678
Many think so, yes.

>>20427670
You tell me.

>>20427678
Gardens of the Moon is good, but not really indicative of the writing of the rest of the series.

People also say it's super confusing and hard to read but those people are idiots that can't handle when an author doesn't hit you over the head with pages and pages of exposition.

>>20427602
>female character
> Illea is bisexual
god what is wrong with authors these days, and what is wrong with shitty audiences accepting this shit
I have lost all hope for the future of (self published) literature

>>20427825
its only ok if they describe her carpet diving with strenuous detail

>>20427576
>((()))
Unironically read The Trouble Twisters. The resolution of one of the stories is the captain of a merchant vessel escaping a planet that doesn't want to let them leave by introducing the Kabbalah to their religion to generate confusion.

>>20427576
just check who won the most recent hugo awards

>>20427398
What are you reading what are you planning to read?

Last book I read: The Stars My Destination
Book I'm about to read: Gene Wolfe, Castleview
Is it good?

>>20427398
Any fantasy or sci fi like 120 Days of Sodom? There was troll on human rape, and elf on troll rape too, in The Broken Sword but it’s only alluded to, I need some real descriptions.

>>20428272
There's ghoul-on-human sex in Throne of Bones by Brian McNaughton.

>>20428275
Is it explicit?

>>20428272
>RapeRapeRape
>fantasy
Pick one

>>20428303
that's some peoples' fantasy

>>20428294
Very.

>>20428272
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08S3DDWVD?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tukn
There's also this series of books. I haven't read any of them, but they're super edgy apparently.

Does anyone have a link to an ebook version of Elric that just collects all of it in one file?

I second this
>>20428439

>>20428439
>>20428471
https://www35.zippyshare.com/v/4YHor5LC/file.html
Password: deathtocommiesandtrannies

>>20428538
based pass

Any new development on the human male protagonist and female vampire literature space?

>>20427899
why did you post that picture

>>20428547
I hope not. Vampire lit is one of the worst fantasy ideas. Drinking dna, bodily fluids, literal farts/poop/various diseases of another person is just disgusting.
How it became so popular is beyond me

>>20428547
I need to find a better epub for twilight reimagined

What did you think of the Termite Queen?

>>20428645
I thought it was gay.

>>20427398
Ah, the brainlet thread. How's it going brainlets?

>buy ebooks
>never read them
I've had enough of this.

>>20428664
We've been anxiously waiting for a big brained genius to come grace us with their opinions. Thank God you're here.

Recommend me something similar to Alien please. A sci-fi story about a relatively small group of people who travel somewhere and discover something absolutely horrifying.

>>20428743
have you read Blindsight?

>>20428750
I haven't. It seems like what I was looking for, thanks!

>>20427574
lamo what the actual fuck is this

>>20427574
Where can I read more literature that uses this variety of vocabulary? Romantic, flourishing, flamboyant.

>>20428850
The nineteenth century.
Try À Rebours by Hyusmans.

Have you read any decent loli stories recently? Care to share the details with me?

>>20427550
Cebelius and >>20427595 I give Cebelius a small edge even though he's furfag because he can manage a story arc and clearly attended the Wang-Lin school of esoteric roastyism.

>>20427669
>two elbows
ah fuck here i thought i was being orignal with that

>>20428925
this is borderline cp

>>20428881
god bless you based poster

>>20429140
I take that back, this is cp

>>20429150
Just ignore him, posting about lolis is his new spam.

>tfw no one will ever surpass Tolkien in terms of worldbuilding

Are there any scifi books that explore the idea of the soul?

>>20428538
Any idea if this is a good version or not?

How edgey is Gideon the Ninth?

Is it full cringe edgey or just subtle edgeyness done in a mature way?

Thinking of reading it next but I'm not sure, edgelord shit makes me cringe unless it is done in funny way.

>>20427520
Literally all Bakker's works, start with The Darkness That Comes Before, towards the end of the series things will get apocalyptical.

>>20429282
>Book riddled with LGBTQ+ and having in-second-person narration
No thank you

>>20429310
came to second this

>>20429324
This chart is what made me read Bakker.

>>20429316
>she giggled while looking away shyly

WTF is this tripe called and why do shit authors think that it's ok. It's not even prose.

>>20429356
You are right. That is a very good example of bad prose.
>while looking away shyly
A good trick for better, more concise and precise prose is to avoid +ing verbs and adverbs. If you need an adverb to modify the verb, you are using the wrong verb.
>She averted her gaze and giggled.
Now that's better but even that could be improved. Perhaps another verb in place of giggle might be titter.
>Tittering, she averted her gaze.
>Giggling, she looked away.
>She shied away and giggled.
Any more suggestions?

>>20429354
Dickgirls?

>>20429384
Skinspies can take form of any humans they see. But apparently they always have a penis (I'm not entirely sure. They are basically a weapon-race who were made for spying but they have very very carnal appetites) somewhere, hidden or not. There is a skinspy who will become one character's gf, hence the dickgirl.

>>20429391
are there a lot of dick girls in prince of nothing?

>>20429398
Literally one that is mentioned.

We’re all fucking Star dust and there’s no morality. We should drown our existential dread with chemicals and alter our perceptions of reality. Sci fi for this feel?

>>20429406
>>20429406
Southern Reach trilogy

>>20429406
Any contemporary non-fiction. Or any school curriculum of any school in California.

>>20428936
I'm sure this trope is more frequent than you might think.

>>20429282
> “While we were developing common sense, she studied the blade.”
It's pretty self aware.

>>20429411
I’ve been meaning to read this dude. But I was put off by New Weird and Mieville.

I'm about halfway through ADWD and I'm a bit conflicted
Perhaps I'm enjoying this more than AFFCs although I love AFFCs it just doesn't feel as consistent as ADWD and there are parts which just don't feel right to me, namely Tyrion's journey throughout the book

>>20429438
I'll give it a try but I have the feeling it is going to make me cringe.

>>20429496
>I have the feeling it is going to make me cringe.
thats not saying much with how much of a pussy you're being.

>>20429507
>how much of a pussy you're being.
What? Do you enjoy reading stuff that makes you cringe?

Just finished this. Can't wait to get my hands on the second part. Thanks to the anon recommending it.

>>20427398
Hey, frens. Anyone here read the Alpha Centauri novelisations? How much do they diverge from the game and are they worth reading in general?

>>20429527
No one reads novelizations. They are not worth reading in general.

>>20429540
The novelizations of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings were almost as good as the movies.

>>20429547
kekked
I hope they will soon release the tucked-away The Second Apocalypse games that the books were based on

stories of your life and others or stranger in a strange land

I'm a huge fan of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R games, have read Roadside Picnic and watched the movie. Enjoyed them all.
What are some books that deal with similar themes?
>Dangerous area that is no longer inhabited and fenced off
>Weird shit happens inside
>People enter it for some reason (research/money)
I've already read the Southern Reach books, 1>3>2

>>20429540
I have read the novelizations of Warcraft I and II, and Planescape: Torment, over the past year.

>>20429683
cringe

>>20429676
kefahuchi tract

>>20429516
Is Fang Yuan an egoist? Rather, is Fang Yuan an unspooked egoist?

what if Kellhus was the president of the US, could he solve the Ukraine crisis and handle Putin?

>>20430097
Well for one, he'd take over in a much more comprehensive manner once he found out just how rotted the foundations of the country are

>>20430097
Considering there would be no man on our Earth that could not be basically mind-controlled by him, I think so.

>>20429683
How was the Planescape novel? I'm nearing the end of a full playthrough of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 and have been tempted to read some of the more frequently recommended Forgotten Realms novels.

>>20430269
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2501881.Planescape_Torment is the one I read. I believe there are two? This version is a copypaste of what I presume to be a full Wisdom run(?) so it would be about as true to the game as it could be. I enjoyed it.

>>20430097
Yes, also Bakker is the ghost of kiev, he rules supreme in the sky and now sandi will die.

>>20430150
This, Kellhus will make America non-pozzed again.

>gay canadian atheist
>non-pozzed
schizos need to be banned again

>>20429523
I still want to try this.
Hoping that one day they get a better audiobook narrator to redo the audio book.

>>20429282
It’s not edgy, it’s a horror comedy where the magic system happens to revolve around necromancy. And necromancy is so common-place in this universe that skeletons are about as edgy as a Roomba.

>>20430097
wait, i just noticed the letters in the background are Armenian

>>20430448
Imagine Dunyains ruling in the supreme court, now this is non-pozzed.

>>20420987
You describe The Broken Earth

Incidentally, I'm looking back through old threads for recommendations. So if anyone has one for me, that would be nice. My reading history: https://pastebin.com/CxR6qFyK

jolenta booba splashed as the boat serenely glides down on the water

>>20430520
I wish writers talked about the butt more, boobs are getting stale.

Has anyone here read the unofficial novelization of Planescape:Torment? Supposedly it's pretty good, some guy worked for years to make a coherent thing and translate it into a novel, then it has another better edition. The opinions seem to be good, it even makes me consider reading it as I lost interest pretty quickly when trying to play the game, both times I tried I quit after leaving the morgue. Is it worth it?
http://discogenie.dyndns.org/planescape/

reposting from >>20430588

Which scifi novels best evoke the atmosphere of idling outside of a bustling trade hub spaceport?

or something with space gas stations / "truck" stops?

>>20427398
I spent 4-5 hours straight writing what is basically a fanfiction of The Broken Sword. It's ~3000 words... God I love Poul Anderson.

>>20429676
How was roadside Picnic?

>>20429324
The salvation axis on this makes no sense, at least the right side.

>>20430755
Mike Resnick's "Outpost", but I didn't really like it

The expanse any good?
Or is there anything with a similar setting that's worth reading?

I will not capitulate
I will not capitulate
I will not capitulate

>>20431171
this guy looks unhinged
average bakker reader

>>20431180
>>20431171
What would be in this guy's Bakker inspired manifesto?

>>20431180
It's the look of pure defiance, In the face of sandi's alliance, being a Bakkerchad is not a choice but a fate, that's why we can't capitulate.

>>20431204
Based Bakkerpoet

>>20431190

The Bakkerchad manifesto

In the name of Bakker and all that is supreme, I will not capitulate, the pozzed may rage, and they may scream, but ruling supreme is my fate. The hordes of pozzed can be loud, but the supreme will always be proud, they will fight the pozzed crowd, disrespecting Bakker is never allowed. the truth will always shine, that sandi is nothing but a swine, his fans are the biggest fools, he is fat with a mouth that drools. let it be known, that Bakker sits at the throne, I will defend him with words or stone, with an army or alone, he will never be dethroned.

So anybody wanna actually discuss books?

>>20431325
go ahead

>>20427550
Gor series, but the installments about slavery are the worst books

>>20431325
You got to report the bakkerspammer for his low-effort posts/spam and off-topic bullshit, or else, there won't be any book discussion.

>>20431325

No, nobody.

>>20431329
I'm currently reading Mother of Learning and I'm onto the third arc. I feel like a lot of the second arc was a bit filler-y, so I'm at least happy it feels like the third arc has a clear goal and push towards fulfilling it. First arc as learning stuff and finding his place in the loop, second arc was like 80% futzing about until he finally decided to talk to Zach and suddenly the plot actually happened. Zorian continues to be JUST mildly frustrating enough that I wanna see him improve, and he kind of does improve, it's clear he values his sister and some of his friends a lot more than he used to, and he's actually trusting people instead of just being paranoid as fuck and avoiding Zach all the time forever.

>after years of waiting
>demon weed book 4 is finally out
Any of you faggets read it yet? I was recommended Demons of Astlan from this general.

>>20431425
This looks terrible

>>20431473
The first cover was shit too.

>>20431473
>>20431482

>>20431490
Why is that demon dude so busty.

>>20431506
barashit fetish

I read an old sci-fi book years ago, where a group of children from a community sharing a planet with aliens ended up killed in some weird ritual, and then it was about some of the others lives as adults? The aliens were called Dancers.

Does anyone remember it/remember the title? I can't for the life of me find it.

>>20430508
nvm. Giving The Shadow of the Gods a chance. Someone mentioned it a few threads back. Looks interesting, if a little generic.

>>20430097
>A DUNYAIN JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!

>>20431525
Do it, the story just keeps getting better and better as it goes along. I'm 75% through the second book now.

>>20427398
Redpill me on Clarkesworld

>>20431389
>it's clear he values his sister and some of his friends a lot more than he used to, and he's actually trusting people instead of just being paranoid as fuck and avoiding Zach all the time forever.
>fantasy
Pick one

>>20431696
What.

>>20431696
Are you saying that in fantasy you can't start to trust people?
Are you sperging or are you a bot?

Finished the First Law Trilogy today, should I read the rest of the books in the series? I always see the first trilogy recommended but haven't seen any mention of the rest

>>20431806
I am saying that its a story of some mentally underdeveloped child looking for friends. Thats what its about, the fantasy setting is at best secondary. It is a relationships drama. Only people interested in it are the same mentally underdeveloped people because they like to read about themselves (not) being pathetic.

Do any of you read your SFF on PC? The calibre viewer sucks but there seem to be zero decent alternatives

>>20431950
It's... It's not that at all, though. Mother of Learning is about a misanthrope stuck in a time loop struggling to understand the mysteries of it all while simultaneously becoming less of a dickbag.

>>20431974
Why are you even bothering responding to the shitter. Christ, learn to ignore them, already.

>>20427520
First Law by Joe Abercrombie
It's not the best series that I've read but I think I had more fun reading it than any other.

>>20431816
The standalones are great and have more structured plots while bringing back some characters from the original trilogy. The second trilogy is also good. If you liked the original you should like the rest.

>>20431974
>misanthrope
as I said mentally underdeveloped

>>20427398
Saying
>I don’t see genre or literariness
Is the same as
>I don’t see colour or sexual difference
Check your privilege

>>20432054
>I don’t see genre
No one ever said that.

>>20427899
I too, enjoy Homestuck

dune is so good bros

>>20431968
i use ebook viewer
freda is also very good if you can get it, but its locked to the windows store or something like that. i use it on my old windows tablet.

>>20429140
Nah it's a drawing

Just finished the warrior prophet by bakker (2nd book of prince of nothing). Loving it, but I have a question: Is Cnaiür a tsundere ?

>>20432102
It's certainly good enough to avoid the risk of ruining my experience of it by attempting to read any of the sequels.

>>20432432
Yes except with dickgirls

Reading Citadel of the Autarch, will finish this weekend and then move on to Urth of the New Sun. Wolfe is fantastic.

What's the best sex scene in all of sffg? For me it's that one chapter where George decided Cersei is going to become lesbian and fucks Teana

>>20432710
Do any books have good sex scenes, genuinely? It feels like they're all either incredibly dull or cartoonishly overdone.

>>20432731
>Do any books have good sex scenes
Nope

>>20430454
>audiobook

>>20432731
Name of the Rose?

In my fantasy, the elves are the jews

>>20432731
Not scifi/fantasy.

>>20429324
hmmm that's alot of women and brown skinned people

Is there a specific place to buy box sets online? I'm looking for a nice set of the Witcher books, as in one that doesnt have the "now a netflix show" stickers printed on the front

>>20433007
b-ok.cc

>>20428925
I got a 30 day ban for joking about child rape in dark fantasy novels, yet posting drawings of children is perfectly fine, probably encouraged by the schizo jannies.

>>20432731
The Gap Into Conflict :)

>>20433007
ebay

>>20433039
Jannies are reddit/goodreads trannies. Several liberal redditors have been exposed as child molesters so its entirely possible our janny is a pedo himself.

>>20433044
I'm thinking it's based.

>>20433044
>>20433079

Long time ago I was given a book about some fat disgusting dude flying some spaceship (that normally requires crew of several people, but his was fully automated which later suprised some people) and raping some woman continuasly, I don't remember anything else about it. I have since then missplaced it.
Is this the book that you are recommending?

>>20427583
>feMC
dropped

>>20432731
Chinese BL novels until the government threw MXTX in jail.

>>20429974
Thanks, description sounds good.
>>20431067
I liked it. Definitely written by slavs. Somewhat depressing atmosphere and a main character who is getting sick of it, but can't escape it.

Has anybody read Eversion yet?

How much can you tolerate homages to other books?

>>20433287
If you want to read it with others currently you can and discuss. If you want to discuss in the thread that's possible as well. If you just want to read thoughts about it you'll have to wait a few days.

>>20432850
which other books then

>>20433428
Please discuss scifi and fantasy in this thread.

>>20432731
It's not "good" in the sense that it's erotic, or honestly a positive event in-universe, but there's a subtle "fade-to-black" early on in "The Stars My Destination" that illustrates a scene of the protagonist viciously raping a harmless schoolteacher who had befriended him, and it's one of the most sublimely written and terrifying depictions of rape I've ever read, despite the fact that it's technically only implied and not graphically described, owing to 1950s sensibilities. It honestly blows any other insinuation or description of sex in a novel I've ever read out of the water, at least insofar as its well-written, though as I said, it's hardly something I could wank to, and there is plenty of far better erotic literature out there than Alfred Bester.

>>20433420
I have yet to begin but I was wondering if it was as political as his recent works have been.

>>20433508
Not scifi or fantasy.

>>20433303
The fuck are you talking about, you weird cunt?

>>20433515
Nice euphemism. It's a mystery.

>>20430097
he would make putin fall in love with him

>>20431816
the standalones are really good

I read 250 pages of ADWD today
Feels good man
A part of myself is worried for what will come after I finish it

>>20433808
>A part of myself is worried for what will come after I finish it
nothing, i would imagine

Have any of you run across any good loli related sffg novels recently?

Any fantasy with a blonde PAWG character?

any recommendations like this/martha wells books but not gay?

>>20434099
what is? winged mermaids?

>>20433928
no and i dont want to

>>20433109
That's the one. It turns into a 6 part space opera, which is hilarious.

Bakshi or Jackson’s LOTR?

>>20427398
Any recommendations for decent scifi (or fantasy, whatever really) stories set in an unbreathable atmosphere (like that of Venus)? I want to steal some ideas for my main WIP, see if I've missed something obvious and to check if I'm being too derivative.

>>20434315
It doesn't matter at all how derivative you are unless it's a major work that's still popular. Because otherwise there's like a 0.1% chance at best that anyone who reads your work has read the work you're driving from.

>>20433928
>yuri loli
Gee, I wonder who this shitposter is. What's the matter, out of VNs and weebnovels to shill?

>>20434325
I would know, and that's all that matters. It's not like I'm writing for success instead of personal gratification.

>>20429282
The prose is bad, the humor pure cringe, the characters legitimately rage-inducing for 70% of the book. The later plot developments are cool, and that's about the best thing I can say for it. Until that point you're mostly left floundering.
But yeah, for a book about decadent necrolesbians in spaaaaace it was underwhelming.

>>20429356
>>20429380
Lol is this where the /wg/ exercise came from?

Reading the second Black Gate book now, I prefer Scorio!

I've been binging Beware of Chicken for the past 2 days after blazing through the ebook version of vol1. I have not read any chinese xianxia so take this in mind, but I think I've gotten the gist of most things from context

Volume 1 was good and actually surprisingly competently written, although that benefits from the ebook version being an edited version of the serial. It's occasionally actually funny, has decent prose, and if not for some foreshadowing to the latter material and the epilogue with the Earth spirit shit would be fine as a standalone, which is a tell for the generally good pacing and structure

Volume 2 feels like it really falls apart in many of these things by comparison. It almost completely drops the comedy angle. The Lu Ban plotline moves at a glacial pace. Vajra and really most of the Xong brothers' plotlines could be almost entirely cut without changing much of anything. Unlike vol 1 which could still make a lot of hay from the passing of the seasons and Jin just getting ready for his wedding there's no clear direction the story is going towards other than the tournament arc, which takes way too long and is preceded by stuff completely unrelated to it. The disciples collectively get so much screen time that the few chapters where we still get Jin's POV, which is mostly his perspective on other character's plotlines or him reverse engineering a foodstuff or farm implement from his original world, start to feel like filler. The longer he keeps the secret it gets more and more jarring that everyone thinks Jin is some eccentric cultivation genius with an inexhaustible pool of wisdom when he's really just some Overlord canadian asshole winging it through everything, while a bunch of his disciples are completely unironic kung fu dudes who get in unironic kung fu storylines, particularly since there's rarely any attempt to make it funny anymore

Valgard is a sympathetic villain in my mind. He’s also pretty interesting as a rootless rape baby changeling.

>>20433079
I looked into #menwritewomen. I have to say, the contempt I hold for women is immeasurable. It blows me away, because I grew up surrounded by literal strong independent women(tm) and many of them were my role models. Yet, not a single one of them ever made out like men were useless like so many of the banshees on these hashtags do.

>>20433079
>not in a sexy 50 Shades way
People are so funny about sex, I love it.

>>20434440
Women rule supreme
men rage and scream

Just finished this if you're here Mike.

I found it very refreshing and easy to read, I'd like to know what year it's set in, around 2200?

>>20427763
looks cool

>>20428743
Read Voyage of the Space Beagle, it's what Alien was based off

>>20428750
good book

>>20433579
Still? Huh.
How did the plot to his "niggresses in space" trilogy end?

>>20434656
Queens rule
whites drool

If I get published, would you guys care if I posted my work here? Not to shill, but many of you have good insights, also it’s fun to share and grow.

Found what would have been my 4th copy of the Hobbit at a store for $2 but it was in bad condition so I didn't buy it
Feels bad man
It was an edition I didn't have either
I love buying Tolkien books even if I already have a copy

>>20434747
nice, I only have the movie cover ones

>>20431816
standalones are very solid. first one (Best Served Cold) is a revenge/heist thriller (it's pretty good, altho the protag is annoying to me), the second (Heroes) is a war novel and is imo Abercrombie's best work, the third (Red Country) is a western a la Unforgiven (this one is universally considered Abercrombie's worst). then there's also a short story collection (Sharp Ends), which was middling, but had a couple of moments, and the second trilogy, which wasn't that good, but is worth reading if you like Abercrombie

>>20434693
Depends. If your work features niggers, fags, dykes or even just muh strong independant wymyn, you don't need to bother. Works bandwagoning on the 4th wave feminist zeitgeist I could get anywhere. On the other hand it's always a pleasure to discover new authors who actually buck that trend. But then you'll probably have a hard time getting published in the first place.

>>20434787
Define "muh strong wymyn"
Does "literally just conan but big tiddy muscle mommy" count as a dyke/strong wymyn?

>>20434792
Yes. It is of the same brand of degeneracy.

>>20434792
Writing women as men with tits is the literal prototype of that shit, so yes.

>>20434798
>>20434797
Cringe desu yo ne

>>20434787
strong independent women rule supreme
weak dependent men rage and scream

>get recommended Jack Vance
>start reading
>"The Flushark of Zam-Zarack had passed, which mean that soon the time of Lubbigubbi was upon the people of Rarazara. Nathan Normalmann walked through the crowd of Klariabsti in the city of Bastiklari, many suspicious eyes of stray Eeplibass and the odd Umpor upon him. He could tell he had drawn the ire of the Floopety by violating the custom of Blooparanza, but he had to reach Kleebonam before the next Zoopipoopi had passed."
did people really read this in the 60s?

>>20427398
I can't deal with the faggotry in these books anymore.

>>20434397
Yeah. The first part was okay. But I have no interest in reading kung fu Winnie the Pooh with a bunch of talking animals.

>>20435035
What's wrong with them, friend?

>>20435072
why not, it sounds fun?

>>20435073
Literal faggotry.

>>20435072
>no Animal Farm but cultivators
Weaker than me? I'm only more equal than you :-)

>>20434977
It's fucking rad.

>>20434264
From what I remember the pov or the tense used in narration was somewhat very uncommon, I mainly dropped it because of that, also there was little if any scifi only constant rape.

>>20435078
Too saccharine.
>>20435084
See, if it used cute animals to sugar coat something more serious, I might like it. Like Watership Down with kung fu or something like that. The contrast between the two elements could make it work. But heartwarming animal stories are a not my thing.

>>20435072
For me it's Arrogant Young Master Template A Variation 4.

>>20435129
I get that's a parody, but how funny is it?

>>20435079
Faggots rule supreme
straights rage and scream

>>20435142
Pretty fucking funny. There a scene hyping up this girl as a jade like beauty and when mc sees her he describes her as an uncanny valley greenskin cgi looking abomination.

>>20435157
Sounds great, though probably something you should only read after you know a lot of the usual xianxia tropes, I'm guessing.

>>20435157
Absolutely based and non-pozzed, girls BTFO'd by hard pilled MC, this is how it goes and this is how it be.

>>20429206
Tolkien literally just copied the Bible

mind uploading
brain-on-a-chip
your neurochemical activity
controlled, tweaked, and fashioned

>>20435166
Yeah a lot of the story is about subverting those tropes or the mc trying to stop those tropes, only to inevitablely fall into them.

>>20435205
This is how Mormons rule, total brainwashing of the masses.

>>20435157
i heard it goes downhill fast so i never picked it up. how true is this?

>>20435157
kek, that's pretty good
I made my distant big bad a stereotypical xianxia protag after his own story is already over, and though I made him a true incarnation of the jade-like skin trope (as in mutton-fat jade, i.e perfect pure off-white), he still looks like a wax sculpture

>>20435157
kek

>>20435283
It's been a while since I read it, but I didn't feel like it fell off. It got surprisingly dark in some of the later chapters and there's a twist with "the system" which probably tuned some people off, but it remained consistently funny even in some in the darker parts.

>>20435307
Honestly, there's a lot of avenues for characters being "typical xianxia protagonist after they're done", it's surprising.

>>20435106
Too much SF, not enough rape. I want one long rape scene and nothing else.

>>20429676
Metro books are great. Other stuff from Strugatsky are also great.

>>20429282
Second book makes the first one worth cringing through.

>>20433528
lmao in what world is The Stars My Destination not scifi or fantasy? it's literally set in a cyberpunk dystopian future with space travel and magic personal teleportation

>It's a Relc solves racism chapter.

>>20435545
Relc rules supreme
Racists rage and scream

>>20434784
What an intriguing use of claiming personal is universal opinion.

>>20434977
It will click into place in a day or two, then you'll laugh with it rather than at it.

when should someone read A New Spring? before starting Eye of the World or little later on in the series? is it necessary?

>>20435604
i honestly remembered RC to have the lowest rating of the First Law books on Goodreads, but i just checked and i was wrong apparently. but would you really contend that RC was good?

>>20430755
bumping this. Anything in addition to The Outpost and Foundation?

>>20435718
new spring is a prequel but was written between books 10 and 11, i'd leave til then. definitely isn't necessary to read before book 1

>>20430755
>>20435782
I love that comfy scifi ambience. Sadly don't have any novel recs, but if you like that Eve spaceport you might also like Elite Dangerous.

>>20435747
Yes, yes, I would. So would most anyone in /sffg/ who has read it.

>>20431806
I am saying that its a story of a mentally underdeveloped child looking for friends. Thats what its about, the fantasy setting is at best secondary. It is a relationships drama. Only people interested in it are mentally underdeveloped people because they like to read about themselves (not) being pathetic.

Bakkerchads!

Rejoice!

Something is about to happen.

>>20435913
is pozzed janny finally dying of aids?

>>20435925
Even better. We are finally seeing movement across his online media channels.

The King yet lives!

Truth shines!

>>20435932
Thats great but nothing tops dead janny

>>20435936
What about dead sandi?

>>20435907
It literally is not that.

>>20435954
Why are you even bothering responding to the shitter. Christ, learn to ignore them, already.

If Bakker is so good, then why hasn't Daniel Greene ever mentioned him?

>>20435891
ok, homo

when

>>20436130
does anyone even care anymore
I think even reddit has given up on him

>>20436130
kek

>>20435983
>Daniel Greene
literal who

>>20435545
>>20435549
>>It's a Relc solves racism chapter.

I wish Volume 8 had more chapters like that, TWI doesn't get better than tight, character driven more or less self-containted stories. Too bad Pirateaba didn't cave to the readers and didn't give us Relc Noir. Well, at least there's Mrsha Mafia.

Made one more change. Hopefully the last one.

>>20435079
>>20435035
i thought brandon was mormon??

>>20436414
Mormons are fucked up.

>>20436414
Mormons don't run things.

>>20436358
Lovely, saved

>>20436460
That's what Mormons say

>>20435035
Knowing that this garbage like Stormlight Archive is what is considered successful fantasy, I'm actually encouraged to know that I can be better.

>>20436568

what is the best science fiction anthology? preferably 500+ pages and not harlan

>>20436694
That isn't one. It depends on whether you like the authors and/or the theme if it's thematic. You could also read "best of" anthologies. They've been doing those since science fiction started.

Anyone read this? Seems to have good reviews.

>>20436867
Yes, it was a sffg group read at one point. I didn't like it. One guy liked it. Others though it was ok. If you want more details let me know.

>>20436874
I'm looking for dark fantasy (not gridmark) and this series shows up in a few places. Just wondering if it is good or overhyped.

His other series pops up in searches as well

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49817747-smoke-and-stone

>>20436867
From shittyreads
> It isn't easy, while he slowly relearns how to be around other people and finding out things about his past he meets a woman who he falls in love with. He is stuck in a 19 year old body and has urges. I didn't entirely connect with this 19 year old body being distracted by sexual urges and exploring.
So another afraid being around people, 19 year old meets woman and sexual urges.
I am so sick and tired if this. Does no one write scifi/fantasy that has a normal mc who is not afraid of people and there is no sex, no urges, no romance. Is everything coomer these days? Do I need to stop with scifi/fantasy and just go back to normal select classics and fiction that didn't have any of this garbage back in the day?

>>20436912
Sexual urges rule supreme
19 year old rage and scream

>>20436912
In that case it's dropped, I hate romance and sex in books. I don't mind if there is a bit here and there, lightly touching on the connection between characters or with a few fade to black sex scenes. But I definitely don't want to read books about sexually frustrated 19 year old.

>>20436892

>>20436892
Fletcher is quite grimdark in general.

>>20436941
Nuru the sorcerer rules supreme
stopped reading rage and scream

>>20436892
Why don't you read the reviews yourself instead of asking people to spoonfeed you snippets of them, you lazy fuck?

>>20436952
There is only one Supreme Being in the universe...

>>20429310
>inverse fire party
>now with extra emwama oil

>>20428719
I agree. Pirating is the only way.

>>20436981
This, he is the only one not raging and screaming, he just wrote sublime works of art and disappeared.

>>20436980
I was asking if anyone here had read it faggot.

/rsg/

Rage and Scream General

>By accident see 'Time Travel fiction' category on Goodreads
>Highly interesting, love me some time travel stories, what you got for me?
>It's all trashy romances for women

Holy shit, is there an option on Goodreads to sort against romance stories? It really feels as if the entire site catered to a middle-aged woman who wants some hard dicking by a myserious man. Like, I looked at the top books from time travel category and the first was 'Outlander.' And then I saw something like this: https://www.goodreads.com/questions/191922-why-are-people-saying-outlander-is-a-rape

I've never thought I'd see women unironically using 'The old times were like that, it's realistic!' rethoric that edgy guys are prosecuted for 24/7. Literally no difference. It's baffling to me how open women are about this, harem stories for men are popular to some degree, but I NEVER saw anything resembling serious rape or sexual assault in them, the authors are scared to put something like that to not be cancelled. Meanwhile women straight up publish books about women being raped and then liking it, books that become instant best-sellers. Is the situation on the market truly this bad?

>>20437100
>Holy shit, is there an option on Goodreads to sort against romance stories? It really feels as if the entire site catered to a middle-aged woman who wants some hard dicking by a myserious man. Like, I looked at the top books from time travel category and the first was 'Outlander.' And then I saw something like this: https://www.goodreads.com/questions/191922-why-are-people-saying-outlander-is-a-rape
>I've never thought I'd see women unironically using 'The old times were like that, it's realistic!' rethoric that edgy guys are prosecuted for 24/7. Literally no difference. It's baffling to me how open women are about this, harem stories for men are popular to some degree, but I NEVER saw anything resembling serious rape or sexual assault in them, the authors are scared to put something like that to not be cancelled. Meanwhile women straight up publish books about women being raped and then liking it, books that become instant best-sellers. Is the situation on the market truly this bad?

>>20437100
The difference is whether or not they feel safe about it. It's just a different example of what has been decided that only one group can do. Same with stuff that's been decided if one person says it then it's a hate crime but if their group says it then it's entirely fine.

>>20437006
It's Spam For Fun? Gladly! /sffg/

>>20437128
Didn't ask
Not my problem
I accept your defeat

>>20437003
Why do you think the people here are any better than any other corner of the internet? Do you need a direct response before you can read a book? Just read the reviews and make a decision for yourself.

>>20437191
It's non-pozzed here

>>20437196
That's not true. It's just relatively less.

>>20437226
It's relatively non-pozzed here.

If the author didn't draw his own map, then I'm not reading his book.

>>20434693
Only if you give it to us for free

>>20436358
thanks. I am watching the extended editions for the first time. I read the books maybe 15 years ago and really need to reread.

>>20434693
See >>20434787

here on /sffg/ we only accept works that have:
>strong white male mc,
>strong supporting male characters,
>no harem,
>no women drama,
>no children drama,
>little to no dialogue with women,
>no romance etc,
>only mature themes (except drama and romance),
>violence and action
>at least some basic non pozzed philosophy.
>No progressivism, no sjw nonsense, no niggers and no faggots.

>>20437306
Saying 'we' when you mean 'I' is disingenuous.

>>20437306
I accept works where the male protagonist has a harem, but preferably an actual harem of docile women ready to bear his children.

>>20437318
He's speaking on behalf of all of us.

Downloaded this on a whim when I was going through new releases, it was by far the one I was least interested it but it's turned out to be really fucking good and the best of the lot.
Urban Fantasy but it's set up like an Alfred Bester sci-fi in that it introduces you to the concept (shadow magic has been revealed to the world fairly recently) and then uses that to explore a story about it.
The protagonist is rare for urban fantasy because they're not magically powerful, they're not solving a detective mystery plot and they start off in a relationship instead of having a will they won't they being the big subplot. Think the author does a real good job of writing a character who has specific competencies but is still a fuckup in a completely believable way.
Big recommend, the plot even ties up incredibly nicely whilst still giving you a sequel hook.

>>20437318
See >>20437356

>>20437356
samefag

>>20437376
>The PROTAGONIST is rare for urban fantasy because THEY're not magically powerful, THEY're not solving a detective mystery plot and they start off in a relationship instead of having a will THEY won't THEY being the big subplot

>>20437402
Yes I was definitely deliberately concealing the fact that it's a female protagonist in the same post where I intentionally drew comparisons to books with romance subplots
You've cracked the case

>>20437306
I usually accept Asian male mc regardless of setting, and some setting specific ones like Egyptians, Mayans, etc if we are doing ancient empires. But that's about the extent of my tolerance.

>>20437376
>female writer with danger hair
Just cut to the chase, how wokeness poisoned is it?

>>20437417
>Yes I was definitely deliberately concealing
Nope. You correctly used the pronouns selected by the main character/the author like the good goy you are.

>>20437422
As long as asian/white race angle is not played in the story, strong asian male mcs are accepted.

>>20427398
>Japanese beta male
>Chinese murderhobo
What does this say about them?

Some are better, some are worse, but I've rated every book in this series 4 stars.

>>20437447
the protag isn't non-binary, them having big tits is a plot point

>>20437483
Why are you replying to the spammer? You know he doesn't give two shits right?

>>20437461
>Chinese murderhobo
Not really a thing. There is one novel where this is true. Every other chinese novel has righteous mc who at worst is morally grey and gradually becomes model citizen and a hero of righteous path.

>wake up
>still hate women
Science fiction books for this feel?

>>20437490
And the murderhobo one is pro-amerikkka anti-CCCP propaganda

>>20437493
confused ccp and cccp lol but you get the point
The next worst xianxia I've read for a murderhobo protag was by an american

>>20437491
You should ask on r9k.

>>20437503
First of all, it's /r9k/. Second of all, answer my question.

>>20437491
Go back to /r9k/, we already have enough shitters ruining these general, we don't need you.

>>20437514
You're right. That wouldn't be enough. You should go a speciality incel site. When do you plan to become a supreme gentleman?

>>20437497
>The next worst xianxia I've read for a murderhobo protag was by an american
What xanxia is that?

>>20437540
Birth of the Demonic Sword

>>20437554
I swear all these xianxia names are just made from a blender of the same few words. Like, they all seem to contain immortal, demon, sage, heavens, etc.

>>20437565
Ah, so you've heard of The Immortal Demon Sage of The Heavens.

>>20437565
xianxianamegenerator.com is still available anon

>>20437554
Its alright but wasnt very fun tbqh.
Have you read The Hidden Tower?

>>20437578
No, good or really bad for it?

>>20437577
It definitively isn't.

>>20437581
The first few books are nice and worth reading.

>>20437565
castle of black iron is my fav because when the protag names it that it's just a magical tree
and then when he starts building it he makes wooden buildings

>>20436472
>>20437278
Glad you both enjoyed the pic. Couldn't have done it without the anons' suggestions.
>I am watching the extended editions for the first time.
Hope you like the kino, mate. It has some differences from the books, such as the absence of Tom Bombadil or the Grey Company as examples, but the films are still great. And I hope you like re-reading the books.

>>20437100
Women are retards, but because of their spending power they've become dangerous retards.

>>20436358
>>20437676
Nice, wish we had more people like you in this general.

>>20437100
This is why Goodreads should let you filter users and authors by gender. No, this isn't a shitpost, you trigger-happy jannie. Stop deleting things that offend you. This is getting completely ridiculous.

>>20437478
Is that it? You got nothing more to add?

>5 whole chapters of Geneva shortly followed up by 4 Laken ones
There's too much shit happening in these books
Too often I wish it'd just focus on a set of characters for longer

>>20437785
What you really want to filter by though is ideology.

>>20437904
Well, there's lots to add. It's just that being that consistent over eight volumes is more rare than any other part of it. It's a litrpg where the powers of Earth have been introduced to The Game That Bends Reality, a shared virtual reality among all galactic species where they fight for advantage in ways that mesh meaningfully with our reality.

Our hero can't play by the Man's rules and breaks out of the nation vs. bloc rules the other earthly participants are engaged in and breaks out on to the galactic stage to become a playa. Like with lots of Russian litrpg, approaching, engaging, and superseding entrenched players on each level is the real game. Local group, national group, planetary group, local interstellar group, pan galactic group, enemy group, allied group it's the same but different. You're always somebody else's playing piece, and they yours.

I like that kind of gameplay in a book, where each faction has its own motivation and style, and there are no permanent allies and no permanent enemies. You've seen all of these elements employed before, but in this series there's always one of them played strong enough to tilt it to a 4 instead of a 3. And I think it's the same with the rest of this author's works. Latest was a tie in with another series that got retconned into this one, but in a fun way. And that original series was all 4s too.

>>20437922
Like gurm, xe broadens the story when xe can't advance it.

>>20438006
It feels like the story has barely advanced last 3k (probably more) pages though
It's still enjoyale to read and I love the pure slice of life parts, but it's getting a bit tiring

>>20438026
I find that if I view it like a big tub of popcorn that I eat while engaged with something else, it's just great. I'll just keep eating another scoop until it's empty If I demand it take center stage it wilts under the lights.

>>20437932
That's unrealistic. Goodreads has 3 gender options. Male, female, "custom." Being able to filter users by these options is a realistic and reasonable request.

>>20437932
I'm unironically in favor of content warnings (or "trigger warnings" as the fags call them) and if the fags get to have them for sexism, homophobia and whatnot, then I want them for feminism, gay agenda, etc.

When Penric masturbates (as is customary for a teenage boy), do the women and demon in his head watch and comment? Do they do JOI?

>>20438045
I don't think I'd ever be able to catch up if I didn't give it my full reading time attention with the rate this nigga pumps out chapters

>>20438197
Here's a goal for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_the_Promotion_of_Virtue_and_the_Prevention_of_Vice_(Saudi_Arabia)

>>20438289
Or this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Culture_and_Islamic_Guidance

>>20437754
agreed. most of this site is shit but there is absolute gold in the mix, you just have to dig for it. I wouldn't have found Bakker without you guys and well... I think the Second Apocalypse series, barring The Judging Eye, is absolutely fantastic. there is also no other place I can talk about hard sci-fi which I love about as much as my parents

Took them a bit longer than usual, but the janny seems to have removed the spammer.

>>20438289
>content warnings are the same as a secret police tasked with censorship
Bugger off, disingenuous faggot. Ironically enough, liberals are much closer to creating such institutions than conservatives are in the US, given their push for "hate speech" laws.

>>20438310
I didn't say it was the same. I said it could be a goal.

>>20438197
Because liberals want to forcibly spread sjw content not hide from people who do not want to see it.

>>20438327
Most people who want their beliefs to be more widespread force their content on others. There are several different cases of it in this general alone.

>>20438346
Yes, unfortunately we have several redditors here.

>>20438346
I for one am content to watch the world burn around me as long as I can maintain a little corner for myself where the flames won't reach. I have no hope for a better tomorrow. There is no point for me to try convince anyone of anything. Things will only ever get worse. All I desire is sufficient pleasant reading material to distract myself from the hellish firestorm outside.

>>20438423
You need to get off 4chan and go outside.

>>20438423
kek

>>20438423
touch grass

>>20438423
I can't tell if this is just some sort of larp and that's depressing.

>>20437996
Sounds interesting, where can I read this?

>>20437922
You should be able to skip around, not all that much happening in one story line impacts others. If there's not a reading guide on how to do this you should make one.

>>20437922
>>20438628
I tried reading this and I found it lacking, how did you guys do it?

>>20438736
idk, I like it. I don't like all of it but I like enough of it and I really like some of it. I read a LOT though and have a hard time finding content I find readable.

Reading dungeon crawler carl rn, read all of trick of the night earlier today. I average about 1000 pages a day.

New thread
>>20438817

So, who’s the pedo that keeps asking for loli shit?

Earthsea series any good? I dug the Daoist themes in The Lathe of Heaven.

>>20438843
m**gy

>>20438423
lol, you'll find a library and break your glasses on accident

>>20438992
TWILIGHT ZONE

>>20438213
The demon probably takes control of his hand at the last minute and ruins his orgasm