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Is she the best female writer of all time?

>> No.20430406

She is the best female myspace angle picture taker of all time

>> No.20430420

>>20430387
Probably, yeah. Also one of the greatest writers of all time.
Greater than Joyce, to the eternal butthurt of insufferable Joycefags. Joyce reaches his aesthetic peak in the Sirens chapter of Ulysses, never to return, Woolf keeps her prose on that level consistently. Her characterization of Joyce as a queasy undergraduate scratching his pimples remains the greatest, most succint, most evocative destruction of an entire oeuvre ever penned.

>> No.20430431

>>20430387
Absolutely and objectively so. Inarguable.

>> No.20430469

George Eliot is miles better.

>> No.20430543

>>20430387
Looks like Lovecraft in a wig

>> No.20430866

>"it made it less likely, somehow, Mrs. Ramsay felt, very irrationally, except that after all Holocaust on such scale was not probable."
antisemitic cunt, her books should be burned

>> No.20430944

katherine mansfield imo is the better writer by far, but woolf has some pretty decent stuff herself.

>> No.20431049

>>20430387
She's in my Top 5 of all time.

>> No.20431057

>>20430944
what stories do you recc from Mansfield?

>> No.20431833

From what I've read she's good, better than some of the male modernists, but she really doesn't have much on joyce or even beckett.
one of the best female artists ive seen in any medium

>> No.20431873

Mary Renault is my favorite.

>> No.20432245

>>20431873
Any recommendation, preferably one without bumsex?

>> No.20432256

>>20430420
True

>> No.20432267

>>20430420
She was jealous of Proust because she would never be able to write something that came near In Search of Lost Time
>Last night I started on Vol 2 [Jeunes Filles en Fleurs] of him (the novel) and propose to sink myself in it all day. [. . . ] But Proust so titillates my own desire for expression that I can hardly set out the sentence. Oh if I could write like that! I cry. And at the moment such is the astonishing vibration and saturation and intensification that he procures?theres something sexual in it?that I feel I can write like that, and seize my pen and then I can’t write like that. Scarcely anyone so stimulates the nerves of language in me: it becomes an obsession. But I must return to Swann” – Letter to Roger Fry, 6 May 1922 (Letters II 525)
>My great adventure is really Proust. Well–what remains to be written after that? I’m only in the first volume, and there are, I suppose, faults to be found, but I am in a state of amazement; as if a miracle were being done before my eyes. How, at last, has someone solidified what has always escaped–and made it too into this beautiful and perfectly enduring substance? One has to put the book down and gasp. The pleasure becomes physical–like sun and wine and grapes and perfect serenity and intense vitality combined. Far otherwise is it with Ulysses. – Letter to Roger Fry, 3 October 1922 (Letters II 565-6)
But she still is an excellent writer

>> No.20432283

She's pretty terrible. Edith Wharton is the only good female writer

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>>20432245
She didn't write any explict scenes. If you want something without homosexuality at all, there are a few early works (like Return to Night), but it's clearly not her best. Renault's biggest achievements tend to be homo-oriented, and from those The Charioteer, the Alexander Trilogy and The Last of the Wine are my favorites.

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20432653

Katherine Mansfield is more better
Her Diaries is a masterpiece

>> No.20432759

>>20430387
Heard of Ayn Rand?

>> No.20433077

>>20430387
I prefer Marguerite Yourcenar

>> No.20433440

>>20430387
No, Emily Bronte and George Eliot are superior. Id give Woolf third place though.

>> No.20433466

>>20433440
Bronte chads rise up

>> No.20433502

i like kate chopin

>> No.20433797

>>20431057
Life of ma parker or the daughters of the late coronel. if you find those good enough, then just pick up anything from her after, you’ll enjoy them all

>> No.20434271

>>20430420
>Greater than Joyce
She literally raged at Ulysses, fucked off for a few years and came out with a pale imitation in Mrs. Dalloway.

>> No.20434276

That would be me :)

>> No.20434281

>>20430420
>Greater than Joyce
Is it a contest?

>> No.20434308
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20434308

>>20430387
Love me some Virginia Woolf, despite her equine face. Starting ‘Between the Acts’ this weekend.

>>20434271
Just finished ‘Ulysses’ and thought about ‘Mrs. Dalloway’ at certain points. Not my favorite book from Woolf but still enjoyable.

>> No.20434320

>>20434308
She tried to capture what Joyce created in Ulysses but failed. I'll be very scathing here but I compare it to how Sally Rooney half-copies Beckett's prose but for no real reason and it ends up taking away from the novels (not that Rooney has much to talk about anyway).
Had Mrs. Dalloway been written conventionally it would have been much better for it but she instead attempted to outdo the master and only ended up showing the gulf in quality between them.

>> No.20434821
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20434821

>>20430387
I got about 3/4 of the way through Orlando and it made me want to drink my own piss. I had to put it down, I hated it. I know I should've started elsewhere with Woolf, so where should've I started?

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20435396

Flannery O'Conner is the best female writer and if you disagree you are retarded.

>> No.20435575

>>20430387
Only if you're into modernism. As a whole she's not interesting and will be forgotten. You'll get biased replies here because /lit/ likes modernism a lot.

>> No.20436070
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20436070

This novel is gold

>> No.20436581

>>20430387
i like christie

>> No.20436609

>>20430387
The only female writer I ever liked was Evelyn Waugh.
All the rest were pure cancer.

>> No.20436612

>>20436609
kek

>> No.20436661

>>20436070
>allende
fuck no, poor man garcia marquez, and even his schtick gets boring after a few of his novels.

>> No.20438594

>>20434281
For Joycefags? Yeah, to anyone who has read both? Virginia Woolf is the better of the two.

>> No.20438665

>>20432267
Nobody could reach on what Proust aimed for in terms of expressing experience. That's a fact.