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Books to make me feel less pessimistic about the future of western civilization? Pic very much not related.

>> No.20406383

>>20406350
How about not reading anymore rightwing liberal propaganda. There’s some real issues out there and Murray isn’t writing about it.

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>>20406350
everyone mentioned here lol

>> No.20406447

>>20406392
Sure similar arguments had been made in the past about other Europeans. But the difference between the Dutch and Italians is tiny compared to the difference between Germans and Arabs or Brits and Pakis.
Plus, my main issue with what is happening in the west is the rejection of its own heritage and culture that played a major role in creating its prosperous civilization that played by far the biggest role in human advancement. As wanting to do otherwise is apparently analogous to white supremacy (which is never defined).
That and it's not like Europe has ever recovered the economic, cultural, artistic, scientific, and military, preeminence it enjoyed in the 1800s; it is a dying continent, without dreams or aspirations.

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20406502

none; it's time to jump ship like Aeneas

>> No.20406537

Just know I'm out there.
And try not to be so harsh on Mike Ma and patriot front and spic fuentes, they're the beginning steps to a brighter future.

>> No.20406573

>>20406502
I'm learning Japanese right now for this very reason.

>> No.20406580

>>20406537
How? Do we just genocide 50% of the population of America or 12% of Europe? Ethno states will never happen

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>>20406350
There is still hope for the West, and Schertel is its Lightbearer.

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20406655

Read this OP. It's not over, don't listen to the doomerfags. There'll still be a war over Europe, so just keep preparing.
>inb4 2 more weeks
These are the doomerfags or the lefties and scared non-whites. This is not ending without bloodshed, and you better prepare for when the time comes. Things will continue to get worse for at least several more years. Just stay strong, trust Christ, and be ready.

>> No.20406667

>>20406573
If the West falls, Japan falls to China the next day lol

>> No.20406728

My advice would be to avoid all news that isn't local, i.e. avoid major broadcast news programs. They're marketed at promoting the worst news which just feeds negativity loops.

>> No.20406776

>>20406728
Yeah just pretend everything is ok, it's just media propaganda that the prices are going up, it'll all go back to normal soon enough by itself just need to take another dose of copium and everything will be fine

>> No.20406810

>>20406383
Then recommend other books that make good arguments to the contrary, or that promote different perspectives and interpretations that are a cause for optimism.

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>>20406350
I didn't get far into War on the West. I read The Madness of Crowds at a time when, like Murray, I was reluctant to admit that there was a conscious, unapologetic effort to eradicate white people by any means necessary. Everyone writing about this shit is too concerned about retaining credibility to call the spade a spade. They'll make entire books filled with exhaustive examples of how all the most powerful institutions in your society are focused on stealing from you, defaming you, killing you, brainwashing you, and replacing you with a genetically/culturally vague underclass of dependents, but still treat these actions like they're poorly executed good intentions and not the midpoint of a clearly deliberate and increasingly obvious extermination process. It's like going to a doctor, listening to him perfectly describe what's ailing you as cancer, then refusing to treat you for cancer because he doesn't get looped in with all the crackpot doctors that believe in cancer. I fucking hate these people.
If you're looking for a whitepill about western civilization, accept personal responsibility for propagating the values and traditions you treasure. Big brother isn't going to do it for you. Start a family, collect books and art, leave the cities, join a community, and become as self-sufficient as possible. Or shitpost and complain about how that's unrealistic.

>> No.20407064

>>20406350
Emerson’s Self Reliance essay

>> No.20407067

>>20406350
It's an issue with industrialization leading to breakdown of communal integrity, degeneration of tradition, mass movements of people and invasive species, pollution of natural habitats, and more in the name of material "productivity", scientific & technological innovation (all mistakes), and so on.
Every civilization is on the decline, not just the West. Not a single positive thing has come from modern medicine, organization-dependent technologies, "Green revolution", and so on.

>> No.20407087

>>20407046
>It's like going to a doctor, listening to him perfectly describe what's ailing you as cancer, then refusing to treat you for cancer because he doesn't get looped in with all the crackpot doctors that believe in cancer
I get this feeling too, but I sense I am just projecting my biases on them.
Regardless, of course I practice my values, but it is just distressing to think about the collapse of the civilization that accomplished so much. And for entirely preventable reasons.

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>>20406810
There are bigger problems such as how the path to Human 2.0 is being paved. We already have injectable self-assembling nano neural meshes, which can potentially communicate with the cloud. The definition of what it means to be human will be challenged as transhumanism starts to grow in upcoming decades. People who obsess about race are losing sight of something much worse that is to come. As Klaus Schwab says, "Data is the new gold," and there is an attempt to connect our minds to the cloud, which several batches of the "vaccine" during the scamdemic were testing. Genetic engineering will likewise be normalized in the future:

Rand corporation's video on "Internet of Bodies", an evolution of "Internet of Things":
https://www.rand.org/multimedia/video/2020/10/29/what-is-the-internet-of-bodies.html

Article on nano neural mesh. Musk is also funding similar research:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1705509114?fbclid=IwAR0z9FEi1Yo9rr6H18DHkyWXkOemI7h4LzN70ktUrnvu7b7M0LNc0MKP4nk

Yuval talking about the future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuL3wlodJC8

Not a single positive thing has come from the technological-industrial order. Likewise, the technological-industrial order exerts dysgenic effects.

The problem is today's world is all geared around skills and employment, but warfare was needed because it offered “get rich quick” opportunities for young males to support their families and the human psychology shows this.
That is actually what our evolutionary design is: it kept the village safe, the enemies knocked up, the population under control and sufficient resources for young breeding couples when it was needed.
We are now in some Indianization, like what happened in India during and after the Raj, the young have little money at their peak breeding ability and as a consequence children are growing up subtly malnourished and mentally impoverished, the old are living longer and retaining resource control, infant mortality is too low to permit any genetic winnowing, the species is creeping along the path of cretinization and infirmity.

>> No.20407300

>>20407236
Phew, good thing genetic engineering is going to solve all those problems then!
I for one welcome becoming a transhuman Demi-god, whats so cracked up about being human anyways?

>> No.20407316

>>20407300
All this technology does is strip us of autonomy and freedom. Stuff like weather modification technologies (e.g., HAARP) and invasive tech like brain-cloud interfaces and V2K are dangerous.

>> No.20407332

>>20407316
>HAARP makes it rain on a regular schedule to water crops and that means I can’t go out whenever I want to!
Truly a terrifying totalitarian dystopia we are heading towards

>> No.20407342

>>20407332
Just like aerosol injection, which has been done since early 2000s, it will have negative side-effects given the nature of complexity.
Not a single positive thing has come from technological-industrial order. Even modern petrochemical-based "medicine" was funded by Rockefellers to make the population sicker and dependent on medical industry. A lot of natural remedies work better than modern "medicine".

>> No.20407356

>>20406350
Idk maybe some history book, so you can realize that life has never been all that great. I recently read Fat Gladiators, Naked Statues, & War Elephants which is about various aspects of life in Ancient Rome and Greece.
It's interesting to see their similarities to us, but like any history book will make you grateful for the modern conveniences we enjoy.
Otherwise I'd recommend documentaries about 3rd world shitholes. There's a good one on Amazon Video about Somalia.

>> No.20407363

>>20407342
t.smelly hippy.

>> No.20407371

>>20407342
>you should care about muh boogeyman

>> No.20407388

>>20407363
>>20407371
t. stupid MKUltra'd faggot
I literally gave Rand Corporation video and peer-reviewed journal articles. Kys, Jews. Have fun frying from EMFs.

>> No.20407504

>>20407388
so what's your solution then, go live innawoods like ted, build some bombs?

>> No.20408591

>>20406350
The Bible.

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>>20406350
Who gives a shit about western civilization in the first place?
If it does not benefit me, it is of no value and ought to be looted.

>> No.20408807

>>20408600
Western Civilization has given you almost every advancement in science, technology, art, philosophy, medicine etc.

>> No.20408850

>>20406655
>These are the doomerfags or the lefties and scared non-whites. This is not ending without bloodshed
No, I'm mocking you because you'll never have the willpower to start the bloodshed and are desperate for an external source to come save you. Probably because your cope fantasies of jebus coming out of the clouds to purge the earth. Not even mentioning that anyone who ever takes any action irl, you instantly demonize them as a fed psyop.
Remember two summers ago with the BLM riots.
>not my state
>not my city
>not my neighborhood
>n-not my wife

>> No.20408859

>>20406350
>Don Quixote

>> No.20408868

>>20406350
How about realizing Western Civilization sucks!? Capitalism sucks. The Orient Sucks. Communism sucks. They all suck. How about stop picking fucking teams like it's a football league and accepting that human advancement happens in a few isolated pockets of elites and cannot be mistaken for the general trajectory of mankind?
How do you stop despairing that McLaren haven't won a WDC in over a decade? By not giving a fuck about teams and watching F1 for the memes.

>> No.20408877

>>20408868
Wow, what an enlightened position. What are you, 15?

>> No.20408879

>>20408868
>How about realizing Western Civilization sucks!?
How about no

>> No.20408886

>>20408879
What is there worth preserving about Western Civilization? You're not carrying on its legacy, you're just reminiscing about the glories of 400 years ago. Let it die.

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>>20408886
>what is worth preserving about the civilization that was responsible for the overwhelming majority of human accomplishments in all areas

>> No.20408894

>>20408886
JBP actually has a great point about this. Basically, tradition is always dead, it always needs to be practiced to be alive - even if it seems performative. That's what 'rescuing your father from the belly of the whale' and similar mythological elements refer to.

>> No.20408905

>>20408892
"Western Civilization" didn't accomplish that, white people did. So I ask you, what's worth preserving?

>> No.20408911

>>20408877
Realizing fire is hot as a child still doesn't diminish it as being a truth.
Sorry it's not contrarian enough to blow up your ego.
>>20408879
yes, either you accept Disney and the Kardashians and reality TV as part of the same package as Plato, Bach, and Joyce, or shut the fuck up.

>> No.20408922

>>20408905
>>20408886
Shut the fuck up tranny

>> No.20408924

>>20408911
>either you accept jewish propaganda or no western culture for you!!!!!
Dilate

>> No.20408931

>>20408922
>giving glory to white people for the world's accomplishments
>d-dialte...!
Well, that's a new one.

>> No.20408938

>>20408931
Distinguishing between "western" and "white" is tranny-tier crap trying to create infighting. People use it to refer to the same general notion

>> No.20408943

>>20408938
Again, what about Western Civilization are you fighting for? Because it's the cause of all the degeneracy.

>> No.20408947

>>20408943
The main pillars of Western Civilization are Greek philosophy, Roman law, and Christianity. I fight for all three values.

>> No.20408948

>>20408924
I never said 'accept', please stop thinking with a coombrain and infesting trannies into every conversation and actually read without thinking about how much you hate your body: I said that Western Civilization includes both things, if you don't like some, then you sub-segment. You are capable of understanding hierarchical taxonomies aren't you?
No of course not, because you assume everyone you're arguing against is a tranny just like you are because you're incapable of understanding subtlety. You know I wish you were a tranny so you'd become part of their suicides statistics too.

>> No.20408950

>>20408948
Jews are not part of Western civilization fuck off tranny

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20408953

>>20408947
>Christianity
You deserve what you get

>> No.20408959

>>20408950
So your contention is that the cabal that controls all the banks and media in the Western World, is deeply and overwhelmingly saturated in it's pop-culture and media is not part of the Western World?
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
Let me explain again: Western Civilization has good and bad stuff in it, even the stuff you don't like, the bad stuff, is part of it. Okay?

>> No.20408960

>>20408950
They've been a part of Western Civilization since heckin BASED and CHAD REDPILLED Charlemagne let them loan money with interest. Deus Vult!

>> No.20408969

>>20408959
>the invasive species is the same as the invaded species because it invaded them!
You're a tranny, your brain literally can't function

>> No.20408980

>>20408969
Western civilization allowed jews into power.

>> No.20408989

>>20406573
Japan is even more fucked than the West. By the West, unfortunately.

>> No.20408991

>>20408980
So? If China gets a white president it means China is a Western country?

>> No.20408992

>>20408969
No, it's more like once the well has been poisoned, then the entire body of liquid in the well is all poisonous. And yes, that means that you too, even by using 'tranny' as an insult have been indoctrinated by the Jews, because you're using their talking points.
You played yourself astrocuck. Instead of talking about things that really matter you're distracted by shit like gender politics. This is precisely what I mean when I say all Western Civilisation sucks, it's so entrenched.

>> No.20408995

>>20408992
Kys tranny

>> No.20409001

>>20408991
Chins has been a western country since the 60s m8

>> No.20409003

>>20408989
No it isn't. Every problem Japan has the West also has and we also have third-world immigrants and a worse collective guilt complex.

>> No.20409007

>>20408995
Not an argument, because you know I'm right: look, come up with your own insults instead of letting the Jews tell you what to talk about. Like you know there's more important issues like global trade routes, energy security, inflation, things that by focusing on fringe topics like you are, lets them distract from those real issues.

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It's great coming into these threads as a married man and father with the most semblance to a "trad" life on 4chan and still thinking you're all goddamn faggots.

>> No.20409014

>>20408959
The point of OP's post, with for example The War on the West, is that western countries are actively fighting against and rejecting western heritage and culture. A lot of it is in the name of anti-racism, diversity, inclusion, and diversity. For example, immigrants from Africa demanding western countries take down statues of western figures (Voltaire, Jefferson, Churchill etc.) and rename roads and university halls because they were in some way connected to the slave trade, or said in some private letters something that would be considered racist in the year 2020. Or teaching that focusing on teaching western musical notation (the best notation) and western music in general is akin to white supremacy. Some similarly absurd notions in areas seemingly free from this such as math. Rejecting the western inventions such as rationalism, empiricism, etc. in favor of a new religion that axiomatically accepts this is all created by racist dead white men and thus need be deconstructed etc.. If you want to be pedantic about it, what is meant is traditional western civilization -- that which ushered in the entire modern world. Yes, modern globohomo came out of the west (in many respects from postmodernism, and an a priori acceptance that all groups of people are exactly equal ;) ), but it is distinctly different from that culture which it inherited -- indeed it is a rejection of it. It is like claiming the cultural revolution in china was just another aspect of Chinese civilization and culture. No, it was clearly an attempt at destroying it, and from its ruins building a new one.

>> No.20409026

>>20409007
>culture is irrelevant just focus on economics
Kys retarded tranny

>> No.20409028

>>20409014
I think it's important to distinguish between "postmodernism" and "everyone is exactly equal". The latter is a noble lie we're required to pretend to believe thanks to WW2, but postmodern thought doesn't necessarily imply that everyone is exactly equal. But I do think it's true that a lot of postmodern thinkers are interested in upholding something close to the aforementioned noble lie.

>> No.20409043

>>20408922
>>20408950
>>20408969
>>20408995
>>20409026
Why are zoomers like this?

>> No.20409044

>>20409028
>postmodern thought doesn't necessarily imply that everyone is exactly equal.
If there are no values how could someone be superior to someone else? You need values to have a hierarchy.

>> No.20409054

>>20409013
Based Lemmy-enjoying dad
>>20409014
> Yes, modern globohomo came out of the west
Yes. But the west is a big amophous thing that covers up to 3000 years of history, including such movements as Athenian Democracy, Spartanism, Roman Republicanism and Imperialism, Paganism, Calvanism, Marxism, Luddites, Macfags and Marvel capeshit lovers. So which 'tradition' is 'traditional western'?
How about we stop using such as stupidly vague term and instead say
>Universities and the Media are actively rejecting rationalism and empiricism
Instead of stupidly vague phrases like "the death of the west"? Because I'd be quite happy if the Protestant Work Ethic was rejected, but thanks to Telvangelists saying "name it and claim it" and Instagammers spouting 'grindset' it is worse than ever, but now married to rampant narcissism.

>> No.20409055

>>20406383
>rightwing liberal propaganda
I assume you mean liberal in the broader, non-American use of the word, i.e. Liberalism?

>> No.20409059

>>20409044
They don't really believe there are "no values", it's just a tactical form of skepticism used to attack what they perceive as lurking fascist tendencies.

>> No.20409087

>>20409059
That's neomarxism repurposing postmodernism, not actual postmodernism itself

>> No.20409117

>>20409054
>So which 'tradition' is 'traditional western'?
We are talking about the common core, not fringe movements such as Marxism and Spartinism, or relatively minor cultural differences between European countries such as which Christian denomination. Also note the west has a core in Europe, e.g.. Russia, despite being European, never fully accepted western values, those which stemmed from the core of Europe in Italy, Germany, France, Britain, Denmark, Netherlands.
The foundations were laid down by the Greeks. The Enlightenment had Europe create and perfect the ideas of liberty, reason, legal and moral equality of man, empiricism, capitalism, etc., which led to the scientific and industrial revolutions (and the subsequent European conquest of the world), the pinnacle of human art in Michaelangelo, Bach, Beethoven, etc.

>> No.20409140

>>20409117
>Spartinism
What? Are you saying Sparta is not a cornerstone of Western Civilization or what the fuck is spartinism
>The Enlightenment had Europe create and perfect the ideas of liberty, reason, legal and moral equality of man, empiricism
>liberty
Greek
>reason
Greek
>legal equiality of man
Romans
> moral equality of man,
Christianity
>empiricism
Greek

You sound like a retard

>> No.20409148

>>20409140
Ok, sure, I meant to advance and perfect those ideas.

>> No.20409290

>>20409117
>We are talking about the common core, not fringe movements such as Marxism and Spartinism,
There is no common core, it's always been changing. Accept it.

>> No.20409296

>>20409290
And I mean "accept that there is no common core" not accept the specific changes. Evaluate your own judgement on a case by case, don't stupidly lump them together No True Scotsman style into this amorphic notion of 'Western Civilisation' which basically means 'things I like'

>> No.20409329

>>20409296
You're just telling me there is no such thing without providing an argument. There clearly are philosophies and values shared by those core European countries (and offshoots such as America), which contributed the most to human advancement. Yes, it is not a discrete classification, but that is like arguing race does not exist because it has no well-defined boundaries (i.e it's continuous) when it clearly does exist in the form of ancestral populations which were separated for tens for thousands of years under different evolutionary pressures, which you can then genetically clump together.

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>>20408807
So?
I don't want or care about any of that shit.
I want a government issued wife and land or it's equivalent like my ancestors.
If anything I am worse off in all metrics than the monkey forefathers in the trees were in 50,000BC despite all this """advancement""". Plus it was the Arabs and Indians. The west has done very little in the field of science and medicine.

>> No.20409381

>>20408947
>The main pillars of Western Civilization are Greek philosophy, Roman law, and Christianity.
>Greek philosophy
Rape and pillaging
>Roman law
Rape and pillaging
>Christianity
Subversion of the two above.

You are confused lad.

>> No.20409382

@20409371
xddd nice bait bro

>> No.20409394

>>20409329
>Human advancement
Spook and a false one at that.
What good is "advancement" if it doesn't benefit me in any way you faggot?
I am not here to serve your "humanity" I am here to be served by it.
Now hand over your wallet.

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>>20409382
Don't you have a job to slave away your existence at for no actual reward, civ-cuck?

>> No.20409424

>>20409409
I am a graduate student, studying physics. To better myself, and one day find a vocation I love that also contributes to society.
Sorry to inform you that the world does not owe you anything.

>> No.20409427

>>20409424
It does.
It says so right on the contract that we all signed.

>> No.20409429

>>20407046
>>20407087
>It's like going to a doctor, listening to him perfectly describe what's ailing you as cancer, then refusing to treat you for cancer because he doesn't get looped in with all the crackpot doctors that believe in cancer.
>I get this feeling too
2/3rds of academia openly goes "the rich who own basically everything in the world are to blame from literally everything and are trying to genocide us", but you just dismiss them because you don't want to get looped in with all the crackpots and fed psyops that buy into Communist propaganda.

I fucking hate you people.

>> No.20409450

>>20409014
What you're talking about already goes like right back to Immanuel Kant and German Idealism.

>>20409117
Marxism and religion aren't minor or peripheral

>> No.20409457

>>20409429
>DUDE IF YOU HATE CENTRALIZED WEALTH YOULL LOVE CENTRALIZED STATE OWNERSHIP

Shouldn’t you be in school kiddo?

>> No.20409500

>>20409457
That's not what he said you literate retard.
He's saying that feds are the ones posting shit like "lol ur a nigger if you go on a shooting rampage, amirite my fellow whities?"

>> No.20409501

>>20409457
>YOULL LOVE CENTRALIZED STATE OWNERSHIP
Holy QED, Batman.

I pointed out the retarded hypocrisy of academia supposedly dismissing White Genocide out of hand like a conspiracy theory, while he himself utterly dismisses the class critique as Communist propaganda. Without ever saying anything positive about Communism.

You dismiss my comment as Communist propaganda. Kinda impressive, really.

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>>20409501
There is no "white genocide".
The whitey is just delusional and idiotic.
Way past his prime. The negro, unirnonically, is a superior man in the US.
He takes what's his without getting confused by the spook of "entitlement" that the whitey has fallen victim to.
The negro knows why civilization was invented for in the first place, the white devil is an insectoid, blindly following his programming without understanding why he does what he does.

>> No.20409768

>>20409515
You're actually retarded, aren't you?
Nothing in that post was cogent.

>> No.20409784

>>20408905
Nonsensical distinction

>> No.20409802

>>20408992
>Instead of talking about things that really matter
Class does not exist

>> No.20409826

>>20409768
He is very clearly a nigger

>> No.20409908

>>20409501
>while he himself utterly dismisses the class critique as Communist propaganda
he literally never mentioned the class critique, you neurotic leftoid
Anyways, just as the prog liberal synthesis is irreversibly a front for a deeper utopian hedonist motive with elements of white geno/suicide, the leftist synthesis is irrevocably married to the resentment of the industrial working-class and subsidizing the damaged goods of industrial society. I probably estimate the cultural-revolutionary element lower than most opponents of the modern left, but it's still obviously present. In that regard, the whole thing is compromised.
Unfortunately for us all the Marxist wing won out in the early Internationals and then definitively crushed all remnants of non-Marxian Socialism in the Second World War and its aftermath. Insofar as class exists, then, the options on offer between the liberals and the left are respectively to attempt transcendence in a hedonistic meatparadise while dodging the increasing threats of dysgenics and vulgarization, or to shackle yourself to a dead corrupted vision of egalitarianism which was embarrassingly compensatory even when it had motivation and will to act.
The right is broken and just consists of rightist wings of the above, and maybe lies vaguely dormant in religious circles which are not themselves essentially liberal or leftist. The best we can achieve at this point is probably corporatism, but I estimate the industrial society will collapse before this from environmental pressure and agrarian prepolitical modes of society will spring up.

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>>20408892
those accomplishments are what led to your predicament in the first place lol

>> No.20410063

>leftists and non-whies come into the thread
>everything turns to shit
Damn it's like real life

>> No.20410072

>>20410063
the biggest enemy of white people is other white people, notice how most leftists and shitlibs are white?

>> No.20410089

>>20410063
>whites acting like haughty Jews whilst fixating on the symptom rather than the cause
>non-white intellectuals trying to expand the dialogue to include other interrelated important factors but due to the poor "lateral thinking" of whites, constantly get ad hominems
Fuck off to Israel. Quote here is a very valid one: >>20410048

>> No.20410097
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>>20410072
>the biggest enemy of white people is other white people

>> No.20410103
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20410103

>>20410089
>non-white intellectuals

>> No.20410110

>>20410103
They exist, but the Jews keep deliberately selecting the leftist morons.

>> No.20410118

>>20410110
I thought it wasn't the jews but le interrelated important factors detected by le non-white intellectuals. Let's discuss le economy

>> No.20410137

>>20410118
Literary agents are the gatekeepers of the industry, and they give preference for leftist morons presently. An overwhelming amount of the agents are Jewish but not all.
>Let's discuss le economy
Industrialization and globalization are a mistake. People are evolutionary meant to live in small homogeneous groups of 150 people.

>> No.20410140

Anti Oedipus

>> No.20410146

>>20410137
>Industrialization and globalization are a mistake. People are evolutionary meant to live in small homogeneous groups of 150 people.
I was sarcastic. I don't want to discuss the ecoomy. But the fact that you think we should go back to living in groups of 150 people shows white whites conquered your people.

>> No.20410176

>>20410146
And the fact you went against basic evolutionary impulse shows why Jews conquered your people.
Also, there's a difference between colonialize and conquer.

>> No.20410213

>>20410176
Ok bro you go make your society of 150 people and get vanquished by someone with 1500 people lmao. That's why whites don't take you seriously: we don't want to be slaves, we don't want to be weak, we don't want to destroy civilization just for some retarded ideal to take away the pain of living. Life is a struggle and if you give up or star gaze you may become a slave. Salvation and rest comes only after death. Whites have a lot of issues but nothing compared to all other slave races.

>> No.20410316

>>20410213
You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to embrace organization-dependent technologies to sustain a destructive global economy for Empire-building, then you're going to run into degeneration of traditions, rapid cultural change, ethnic tensions, miscegenation, and more. You're just a narcissistic prick that doesn't realize everything is a double-edged sword. Basically a mirror-image of Jews but oriented in a different direction.

>> No.20410350

>>20408989
>>20406573
It's fucked but in a whimper rather than a bang sort of way. It's a moribund civilisation, yes, but dying is not dead, which the west most certainly is. As long as you have the sort of mindframe that doesn't consider that the greatest of turn offs, it's fine.

>> No.20410367

>>20407046
It is unrealistic you faggot. The only possible way is to retake the institutions themselves, and that is most certainly not going to happen: they've successfully integrated a non-elite ruling class of the less capable peoples; they've isolated and destroyed any Schelling points of possible resistance; and the fundamental structure of the world economy is most certainly in their line.

All you're doing is advocating for a decentralisation, enabling a defeat in detail. It would be like the Samurai urging guerrilla war rather than fighting a heroic last stand.

>> No.20410375

>>20407342
Fucking retard. This is why no one listens to obvious, salient issues; they have fucktards like you muddying the waters with nonsense claiming that dying of bacterial infections is a perfectly viable route to god.

>> No.20410397

>>20410375
Colloidal silver and green black walnut tincture work better than antibiotics for bacterial infection. It also doesn't cause bacteria to evolve resistances.
Aerosol injection has been done since early 2000s, and I'd have to find the video of the conference to share as proof. Many peer-reviewed journal articles discuss it. Even Bill Hates talked about it. It most likely leads to metal poisoning.

>> No.20410401

>>20410397
Rockefellers funded both feminist movement and modern medical establishment in order to delegitimize naturopathy**.
>Aerosol injection
Stratospheric aerosol injection*

>> No.20410413

>>20410397
Keep digging that hole retard.
Fucking aerosol poisonings, I swear to god you people need to be euthanized by a far more bloody efficient method that bloody aerosol.

>> No.20410441

>>20410413
There is aluminum in it. Anyways, do you want sources?

>> No.20410497

>>20410413
https://www.bitchute.com/video/sVRz6OHk5CiS/

Humurously, there's a scene of a conference with a guy who acknowledges negative impact of stratospheric aerosol injection while saying the risk is worth it because it's the grandkids that will suffer brunt of issue.

>> No.20410707

Directed energy weapons are real too...
Most conspiracies are turning out to be true.

>> No.20410731

>>20408947
>t.17 year old who thinks he's being subversive

>> No.20410769

>>20410731
T. 30-y-o boomer who thinks cynicism is still in

>> No.20410786

>>20409515
Go away, AGP

>> No.20410801

>>20408807
not him but so what? I already have them lol, it's not like that shit is just going to poof our of existence

>> No.20410829
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>>20410801
But muhhhh humanity
Muhh advancement
Muhh progress

>> No.20410853

>>20410801
>>20410829
Dios Mio... los parasitos del Mundo Nuevo...

>> No.20410859

>>20408807
>Western Civilization has given you [decadence]
Wow. Simply epic

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>>20410853
I'm Euro.
Europe was always about looting, raping and filling the coffers of your own as opposed to """humanity""" and """sacrificing""" yourself for your local abstract egregore of a """nation""".
It's only with the invention of US that our cool warlord continent has turned into a land of delusion and destitution.

>> No.20410909

>>20410880
You're non-white, you will be always be.

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>>20410909
What the fuck is a "white"?

>> No.20410954

>>20409290
Spotted the subversive bolshevik rat

>> No.20411033

>>20410880
Rapacious individualism is an Anglo-Germanic brainrot which is not even a constant in those societies, you larping fag
Cute girls tho

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20411058

>>20411033
Correct.
Egoism is where it's at. The ways you "return to tradition" spout about yet knowing nothing of. Rome didn't expect you to throw your life away for fuck knows what. It gave you what you wanted and you gave it what it wanted. As it should be.
My, mine and because of me(and my kids).
Not "nation". Not "humanity". Not "ideals".

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20411064

>>20410914
These are white

>> No.20411096

>>20411058
You are describing a nation dipshit

>> No.20411111

>>20411058
You never read a book in your life and your IQ is below 100 points.

>> No.20411200

>>20410213
civilization is for weak people

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20411241

>>20406350
>c

I said, the Great Man was always as lightning out of Heaven; the rest of men waited for him like fuel, and then they too would flame.

If you truly believe he will come

>> No.20411305

>>20410063
They always respond with the same tiring pilpul

>> No.20411316

>>20411305
Not really. I don't really see that many posts from self-victimizing oversocialized leftists. Have you ever considered the possibility that you're just a pompous jackass?

>> No.20411483

>>20411316
Not that anon but you should be killed for the way you phrased this comment, not to mention it in itself is pompous redditspeak

>> No.20411733

>>20411483
>you should be killed
And you should be killed for being a MKUltra'd faggot who believes any of these "intellectual" movements, including the reactions to them, emerge organically in an age of data mining, bots, mass media, and so on. Go get groomed by a FED to shoot up some more old black people, you fucking sick faggot. Both globohomo dag and far right narcissists deserve the bullet.

>> No.20411740

>>20411733
>globohomo dag
fags*

>> No.20411837

>>20411733
Literally why does it matter at all if any of this is "organic", you obsessed schizoid?

>> No.20411894

>>20406580
It’s happened before, and may happen again, prob why they push miscegenation so hard

>> No.20411904

>>20408947
Christianity is opposed to the first two and western civilisation idiot

>> No.20412018

>>20411837
You're the brainlet schizo trash if you can't see why it doesn't matter if these issues are engineered versus organic. I can't explain all the basics to brain lesioned and atrophied arrogant faggots like you.

>> No.20412027

>>20412018
>why it doesn't matter
why it matters*

>> No.20412493

>>20411064
Yay Im white now. I can keep cumming on Anglo titties because uh yeah tmi
Yur welcome ;)

>> No.20412912

Europe is in the retirement home phase of its civilization.

>> No.20412918

The world is passing. Instability is its feature. Putting faith into the world is pointless. Read philosophy and get a sense for the eternal and unchanging instead. i reccomend The Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius

>> No.20412931

>>20407300
>whats so cracked up about being human anyways?
You resent your own humanity and will mutilate yourself to change.

>> No.20413002

>>20406605
post a quote or something

>> No.20413272

>>20411200
civilisation allows weaker people to live

but specialisation and tech means that those that are trained to be strong and scrappy will outclass any other. put 10 Delta rangers in a fight to the death situation with 10 native tribesmen and watch as the deltas win everytime due to superior intellect, training and physical prowess.

its also why olympic athletes, trained since birth run faster today then anytime in human history

>> No.20413277

>>20411096
Yes.
You don't live in one. You're a slave.

>> No.20413294

>>20411111
Based baseless and factually incorrect insult.
Read 1(one) ancient text. Not one mentions sacrificing yourself like a cuck for your "nation".

>> No.20413508

>>20413277
I am an academic with banker friends

>> No.20413516

>>20413508
Based ruling elite.
In this case none of this applies to you.
See you when the working class sticks your head on a pike.

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>>20406350
As sad as it sounds, the west is dying, and it's not like there's a massive war you can fight to defend it. Protecting your nation, its culture and its history will only make you a social outcast.

The west will die quietly as it will softly exhale its last breath. There will be no cataclysmic event, the west will simple die on day and the world will carry on. Just to give you an example, the new French ministry of education is a racialist, he's known for having stated previously that the Opera of Paris was "too white".
It's just an example of what happens daily in the west ; a continuous fight against the indeginous people of Europe for what they are.

There's no white pill, there's no solution, we're too far gone.
The only thing you can do is educate your kids, teach them to love themselves for what they are, and defend the culture and ways of their ancestors.

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20413580

>>20413537
>defend it
cuck
>Protecting your nation
cuck
>will only make you a social outcast.
Good. You deserve it for being a retarded insectoid deluded by tall tales of the ruling elite designed to push you under the tracks of a tank so they can protect their interests.
There is no "your nation", it never existed in the first place. You're a fool.

>> No.20413588

>>20406350
>the future of western civilization
the Amish

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>>20406350
>the future of western civilization
Destruction of the false "western civilization" and return to actual state of Europe.

>> No.20413610

>>20413537
>There's no white pill, there's no solution, we're too far gone.
There is, but you won't like it, even though it's the only solution. Feel free to read the rest and compare it to the situation there.

"If you walk in my statutes and observe my commandments and do them, then I will give you your rains in their season, and the land shall yield its increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. Your threshing shall last to the time of the grape harvest, and the grape harvest shall last to the time for sowing. And you shall eat your bread to the full and dwell in your land securely. I will give peace in the land, and you shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid. And I will remove harmful beasts from the land, and the sword shall not go through your land. You shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall chase ten thousand, and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. I will turn to you and make you fruitful and multiply you and will confirm my covenant with you. You shall eat old store long kept, and you shall clear out the old to make way for the new. I will make my dwelling among you, and my soul shall not abhor you. And I will walk among you and will be your God, and you shall be my people. I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that you should not be their slaves. And I have broken the bars of your yoke and made you walk erect."

>> No.20413641

>>20406350
Western civilization doesn't exist. No civilization exists in the modern world. You are an individual. You can only control your own life.

>> No.20413644

>>20413610
The retarded christcuck, w*stoid will read this and take from it "be submissive"
Lord quite literally told you to loot and rape.

>> No.20413669

People who find particular political positions outrageous are usually more outraged by that person not being a follower of their position than any reason they will admit to in the company of others (such as in this thread) following their after-the-fact rationalization of that outrage on an ideological or philosophical level.

>> No.20413691

>>20413669
I don't see the issue?
If one isn't in my group then I might end up having to hang them one day.

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>>20413598
>England split into eight pieces with fucking TAMWORTH of all places as the capital of the midlands
>Meanwhile, NI and ROI become unified as a single state
>Mainland Scotland and Wales manage to survive unscathed
I wonder who could be behind this post

>> No.20413701

>>20413697
Sorry, make that nine pieces including the Isle of Wight

>> No.20413702

>>20413691
I guess my problem lies with the phenomenon of people trying to present their outrage as a rational matter where the crux of their problem is with the philosophy/ideology being genuinely faulty rather than just the fact that the person whose views they are outraged by rejected belonging to their tribe, or hold views which are detrimental to their tribe.

>> No.20413706

>>20410316
>because culture is changing you must have jewish propaganda and like it

>> No.20413721

>>20413706
Well yes.
Your "traditional", "western civilization" is degenerate and sick to begin with.

>> No.20413729

>>20413721
Then fuck off back to your shithole

>> No.20413759

>>20413729
I am western you wanker.

>> No.20413774

>>20413759
Non-whites are not western

>> No.20413785

>>20413774
Based.
There is no "white" race.

>> No.20413793

>>20406350
There is no reason to feel anything about it. Civilizations come and go in cycles. We had two good runs and, if man is still around in 500 years, we may have another, unless of course a true universal mankind happens by then, and no culture exists whatsoever. But if that's the case, saving the West now wont stop that since we started it.

>> No.20413818

>>20413785
There is, and you're not white

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>>20413793
>a true universal mankind happens by then

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>>20413818
Why don't you go sacrifice yourself for the "advancement of humanity" and a "white homeland" cuckboy?

>> No.20413932

>>20413848
I do that every day thanks

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>>20406350
>Books to make me feel less pessimistic about the future of western civilization? Pic very much not related.
Industrial Society and Its Future.
Bronze Age Mindset.
I know both are memes here but the offer two different approaches to the decline and are short enought that you might read them.
Anyway the fight isn't lost yet at all. Don't let yourself get too demoralised, even it its difficult at times.
Until a few years ago I thought that the second world countries would surpass the West in my lifetime. No I doubt that, it's just that all countries are going to shit.

>> No.20414012

>>20409429
>2/3rds of academia openly goes "the rich who own basically everything in the world are to blame from literally everything and are trying to genocide us"
Do you have a simple example?

>> No.20414015

>>20408886
>glories of 400 years ago
>british empire spanned the globe less than 100 years ago
>glories of 400 years ago
What the fuck do they teach you in schools?

>> No.20414039

>>20406573
>weebs think japan is a valid escape as if its not propped up by the west and wont collapse 0.1 seconds after the fall of the West
Your best option is to buy land in your home country and learn how to live a simple life off grid now before you are forced to.

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>>20413932
Based.
I don't respect it, but I like you supporting my superior NEETking existence.

>> No.20414044

>>20409768
You are replying to obvious bait

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>>20414039
>live far away from all the chicks
That's how you became a childless wine aunt(male).

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>>20413598
>>20413697
>Tamworth a capital, not Nottingham
>Devon a separate state
>isle of man a separate state
>yet the whole of Ireland is a single state
>low land and highland Scotland one state
lmao delusional

>> No.20414051

>>20414044
If you actually read the raw text instead of filtering it through your veil of muh western culture you'd gain some knowledge.

>> No.20414054

>>20414048
>living in the country means being a wine aunt
this is what weebs actually believe

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20414059

>>20414051
>please read my bbc fanfic!!
go away burger

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20414061

>>20414059
>Not a single mention of the word "black"
>IT'S DA BBC
damn.

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>>20414061
>shitpost about how negro is better than whitey
>gets called out as standard amerifat bbc propaganda
>"heh, I never SAID bbc!!! Checkmate!"

>> No.20414086

>>20414075
Negro is obviously a reference to "looter", "the other", "minorities".
I thought this was a literature board? How can you be this illiterate?

>> No.20414187

>>20406350
>>20406383
>>20409055
Murray is a liberal, progressive, centrist that fixates on the islam issue because they won't let him fuck his boyfriend up the arse.

>> No.20414241

>>20406350
Anything by Ken Wilber. Boomeritis is if you want it in fiction form, The Religion of Tomorrow is a hefty tome that will take you through all the ins and outs of human development, and Sex Ecology Spirituality is if you want the real heavy hitting stuff. Expect to be inspired and uplifted and to believe in a brighter future for humanity. If you're into that sort of thing.

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20414263

>>20406810
This has quite an optimistic view of social development.

>> No.20414281

>>20406350
There are several good neolib propaganda books that you could read in order to delude yourself to feel better. Read Factfulness.

>> No.20414327

>>20413697
Ireland and Hungary are the only two countries which expand instead of being Balkanised.

>> No.20414333

>>20414263
>Rise in a rational problem-solving orientation as possible causes of this decline in violence.
That's by definition the opposite.

>> No.20414334

>>20413580
Hylic retard.

>> No.20414338

>>20414334
Demiurges slave struck down by the physical limitations of his own mind, trusting every delusion it conjures up as "truth".
Sad. Many such cases.
Go get laid.

>> No.20414360

>>20414338
The very fact that society exists allows you to survive as a borderline retard and spout nonsense online.
Just because you are a modernist filled to the brim with individualism doesn't make you a free thinker. You are a product of your time, an erzatz of a man with an erzatz of ideas as your core beliefs. You have no roots, you are being carried by the wave of the moment, you are meaningless, you are a shame to your ancestors, a pathetic and sorry being of malleable clay.
The very fact that you can feel superior to me shows how far gone you are.

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20414410

>>20406383
Like what? I'm genuinely interested in what you think matters more than the functional erasure of the west.

Demographics are destiny, no-one sane denies this except as a bald lie meant to celebrate its truth.

>>20406350
>Books to make me feel less pessimistic about the future of western civilization? Pic very much not related.
Picture very related.

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>>20414360
Atomized cuck calling me atomized. lmao.
Show me your community?
>It's my nation/ race/ culture
You are a degenerate vessel, subservient to your masters and a singular label. No more than an ant.
Scurry away to your workplace to earn an "honest" living.
Faggot.

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20414467

>>20414360
Let me guess:
We should all aspire to be like Nikola Tesla?

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>>20406350
It ultimately comes down to this.
Western progress will be its own demise, for the very philosophies it developed will prevent the actions that need be taken to preserve itself from ever happening.

>> No.20414550

>>20414416
Keep coping, you are absolutely rotten by resentment and jealousy, you couldn't achieve satisfaction of soul, so you're diving deep into imaginary battles between the elites and you.
It doesn't matter what you call me.

Sure, I may be sad that my country and culture is dying, but other than that I have a very satisfying life, a loving family, good friends, I am spirituality elevated and I am generally having a good time in life. On the other hand, you're just a difting piece of wood.
I'd even bet that you're a neet, and like all neets you're a parody, you believe to be free and fighting oppression, but anyone knows you're simply useless and unable to contribute. You're not being brave by not contributing to society, you probably couldn't if you tried, and you know it, that's why you don't.
Also, it is very much possible to contribute to your well-being and even that of your close community without feeding the elite, but you don't, your hypocrisy prompts you to spend your time on the internet, the pinnacle of societal achievement. For your message to be posted here, you need a cohort of workers being paid by you, from electricity to networking, infrastructure, maintenance, etc.
You could survive in the woods like uncle Ted, but you don't.
And then you come here to find like-minded retards and jerk off to the thought that you're superior than the people who have an impact on the world, anyone who knows you also know it's a massive cope.

It's all too tiresome, it has no depth. You're being insincere, it may be frustrating to everyone, but it hurts no one other than you.

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20414578

>>20414550
>>20414416
I like how it's still all insults yet in a more elaborate fashion.
God bless this place.

>> No.20414597

>>20413706
Don't put words into my mouth, you mouth-breather.
You altright tards are stupid and insane bastards. You want 100% agreement. Motherfuckers, I'm agreeing with you more than even the leftists, yet you still keep attacking me.

>> No.20414615

>>20408868
>In this moment, I am euphoric.

>> No.20414622

>>20408905
Same thing. Just stupid semantics like 99% of these arguments.

>> No.20414639

>>20413598
Kys

>> No.20414648

>>20413697
>>20414050
>with fucking TAMWORTH of all places as the capital of the midlands
>Tamworth a capital, not Nottingham
Largest and most influential cities serving as capitals is a gay Jewish practice. You gotta make the elites to personally experience the feel of an AVERAGE city in a country they are running, not the richest and biggest one.

>> No.20414653

>>20410914
Reminder this is a meme and both Hitler and Mussolini talked of a common White/European race.

>> No.20414658

>>20406350
These threads always bring out so many retards

>> No.20414662

>>20414653
You mean Germanic/Aryan?

The one that explicitly makes Germs and Swedes the only tru wypipo, while everyone else belongs to degrees of Jew mutts?

>> No.20414688

>>20414622
He's talking about the actual material substance.
You are talking about a masturbatory concept.

>> No.20414698

>>20408892
There's a lot I respect about the West, such as various art movements, but all science and technology were mistakes. I think other peoples would have went down the same route eventually since it largely stems from "empire-building" mentality.

>> No.20414760

>>20408892
...and all of it accomplished by Jews.

>> No.20414768

>>20414760
A disproportionate amount since their liberation in the 1800s, yes, but not most of it.

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20414785

>>20414768
>B-but
Face it whitoid. The "science" and "technological advancement" you are whacking your wang so hard about are all thanks to Semitic and Sinic peoples.

>> No.20414812

>>20414662
This is incorrect. The White race during that time was commonly divided into three subraces: Nordic, Alpine, and Mediterranean. Of course every scientific racist considered all three to be White, but it was common belief that the Nordic race was the master race.

Read the Passing of the Great Race, Hitler was greatly inspired by it

>> No.20414921
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>>20409026
>>culture is irrelevant just focus on economics
>Kys retarded tranny

>> No.20415040

>>20414648
Modern capital cities are ceremonial and often chosen based on historical significance, rather than how rich they are (although that helps).
Are you seriously trying to argue that tamworth is a more suitable midlands capital than Nottingham?

>> No.20415109

>>20413598
>every country is split up
>except for Ireland which is unified.
Lol lmao

>> No.20415171

>>20414534
Giga based

>> No.20415172

>>20414648
That's why Canada, with its capital in the humble twin city of Ottawa-Gatineau, is so hecking based and epic

>> No.20415177

>>20414467
He never experienced sexual pleasure or attraction
Have sec(s)

>> No.20415181
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20415181

>>20414534
Why is it that the ugliest and swarthiest Westerners tend to be the most demeaning of all white supremacists? This guy looks browner than many Mexicans I've come across. He looks as ugly as the recent Buffalo shooter.

>> No.20415306

>>20415181
What a little bit of white does to a mf who sees it for what it is

>> No.20415567

>>20415181
>cherrypicks some image to cure his non-white assblastedness
kek

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>>20415567
Here's another pic, you arrogant piece of shit.
He doesn't look white much like the Buffalo shooter. Are you ugly like him too?

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20415617

>>20406350
Pic related from what I've heard

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20415659

>>20406350

>> No.20415685

>>20415577
He looks white you're just the typical seething non-white who tries to sow discord among whites

>> No.20415697
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20415697

>>20415685
>He looks white
Not at all. He looks swarthier than an average Lebanese or Iraqi.
>seething non-white who tries to sow discord among whites
I'm just pointing out that the biggest white supremacists, like the Buffalo shooter or Sobran, tend to look mixed. I think there are a lot of weird psychological complexes you faggots have, which you refuse to address due to hubris.

>> No.20415747

>>20415697
Cope non-white

>> No.20415754

>>20415697
They don't look mixed, they look precisely inbred

>> No.20415758

>>20415747
Post face, insecure faggot, lol. You're probably unknowingly a mutt. It's a weird trend I'm noticing.
But yeah, genuinely kys.

>> No.20415765

>>20415754
That's an interesting point... It does make me think.

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20415954

>>20415177
For all intents and purposes an absolute failure.
Unless you're retarded enough to value posthumous pats on the back from fat retards online.

>> No.20415984

>>20415758
>seething Eurotard rage

>> No.20416020

>>20406580
Its morally permissible to take almost any action to protect our homelands but a complete halt of migration and deporting all unemployed/criminal non Europeans would do it without requiring mass killings

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20416161

Why are whites so superior bros? It's not like a slight advantage either, it's absolutely overwhelming. That and how they look so different from the rest of humanity to me is nearly enough to constitute them a different and more advanced species.

>> No.20416188

>>20416161
Science and technology were all major mistakes, but classical music is good.
I don't see whites as either superior or inferior to anyone else.

>> No.20416338

>>20406537
>the western revival movement will trace its roots back to mystery meat youtube grifters

grim.

>> No.20416356

>>20416161
Man I hate americans.
Why are they like this?
Read 1(one) non fiction book nigger.

Your graph is false btw.

>> No.20416367

>>20416356
His graph is right, but most of it is actually bad. Not a single positive thing has come from modern technology, petrochemical based "medicine", science, or math. Classical music is nice though.

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>>20416188
I don't see someone as superior because they are white. That's just obvious and needn't be said that there are plenty of people from other races that are smarter, more industrious, more creative, etc i.e. superior. than millions of whites.
But whites as a people are superior to other groups. If you have a working pair of eyes it is obvious.
>>20416356
I'm Canadian. And no the graph is roughly correct. Name any scientific endeavor and whites almost certainly contributed the overwhelming majority of the progress. I study mathematics, and practically all advances past basic algebra and trigonometry were made by whites (Europeans). I would feel very comfortable saying I can pick out just 2-4 Europeans that contributed more to math than the rest of the non-European world combined up to their point in history.

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20416408

>>20416380
>Name any scientific endeavor
Math.

>> No.20416439

>>20416380
>But whites as a people are superior to other groups
I consider industrialization as the biggest mistake in all of history, and I don't see whites as a group superior either.
>I study mathematics, and practically all advances past basic algebra and trigonometry were made by whites (Europeans).
If anything, this makes one inferior because it's just a surrogate activity. Read Ted Kaczynski.

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>>20416408
>analysis
This includes obviously calculus, differential equations, measure theory, probability theory, real and complex analysis, dynamical systems, chaos theory, probably include linear algebra here, etc. literally all European. Indians had a rudimentary idea of the limit, but never pushed it further or formalized it.
>topology
all European
>algebra
all European (past basic grade school algebra)
>theoretical computer science
all European
>set therory
all European
>mathematical/theoretical physics
all European
>statistics
all European
etc. etc. etc.
Becomes that much more embarrassing when you remember Europeans are a small fraction of the population

>> No.20416485

>>20416467
>This includes obviously calculus, differential equations, measure theory, probability theory, real and complex analysis, dynamical systems, chaos theory, probably include linear algebra here, etc. literally all European
All a mistake.
All that matters is agriculture, fishing, TRADITION, artwork, and maybe a few other things.
>Becomes that much more embarrassing
Not a single positive thing came from the maths or sciences. Traditional naturopathy medicines typically worked better than petrochemical based medicine too.
Wake the fuck up, faggot.

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20416488

>>20406350
David Pearce thinks that technology could eventually result in suffering being abolished entirely.

https://www.hedweb.com/
https://www.abolitionist.com/

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20416495

>>20406350
>>20416488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx3rdVQZ3mo

>> No.20416501

>>20416488
This is my one source of optimism. That technology and the so-called singularity/AGI will save us before society collapses

>> No.20416512

>>20416488
>>20416501
You are both fools and an example of everything wrong with the West.

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20416563

>>20406350
Douglas Murray is a cuck. Read pic-rel to see the path ahead.

>> No.20416565

>>20416485
>All that matters is agriculture, fishing, TRADITION, artwork, and maybe a few other things.
Which leads to self-sustainability, self-sufficiency, and self-reliance.
Death to the technological-industrial order!

>> No.20416573

>>20416512
Based

>> No.20416585

>>20416467
You’ll likely not live long enough to see this change. But the European will be intellectually displaced in every domain by the Chinese. The Chinese will unironically venture to the cosmos and achieve feats among the stars that’ll eclipse every European achievement ten-fold, maybe even thousand-fold. Remember that affirmative action benefits whites and niggers while working against asians, all in an effort to delay the inevitable. Just as we look down on the sand niggers in Egypt, wondering how they could ever have reached those civilisational heights, we will look down on you snow nigger

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>>20416573
It's better to be a low-IQ rather than a worshiper of Geist who believes in nonsense like civilizational progress in relationship to devastating technological "innovation" and spreading filthy democratic ideals.

>> No.20416595

>>20416585
Modern Chinese have disgraced all of their ancestors, just like everyone else, and should no longer be called Chinese. They have adopted the destructive pro-technological attitude of the Westerners that influenced them.

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>>20416585
Sure Zhang.

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>>20416607
You're all culturally the same shit, worshiping Geist over Leben.

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20416755

I love western culture and history so much. I absolutely hate seeing it go. There's no way I would ever be able to fit in any non-western country. This is all something out of my control though. If the occident really has to go out, I wish we could go out with a bang rather than a whimper. It's surreal knowing that I'm living in the dying breath of western civilization.

>> No.20416758

>>20413272
it will eventually collapse especially if its faustian

>> No.20418004

bump

>> No.20418313

>>20414187
>liberal
>progressive
>centrist

pick one

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20418868

>>20416607
>Why don't the industrialists from the other side of the globe, busy doing actual work, come all the way over here to get a pat on the back from a snownigger and a tin coin?

>> No.20418970

>>20406350
>Cheap Sex
Not from where I'm fucking standing, it isn't.

>> No.20419000

>>20416755
Show me a single piece of western literature than won't be completely trampled by a Chinese peasants scribbles.
Westerners are incapable of art.

>> No.20419178

>>20419000
Europeans invented the novel.

>> No.20419300

>>20419178
Semantically it would be Japs/Chinese.
Realistically, the Semitic races.

>> No.20421220

>>20419000
lol delusional chink

>> No.20421262

>20419000
This post is obvious bait.

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20421507

>>20421262
Obviously an opinion other than the popular one has to be wrong right fellow Gay- I mean Greek cock enjoyer?

>> No.20422122

Funny how this board (rightfully) makes fun of women for reading meme tier political pseud shit only to then turn to this male equivalent as a sort of redpill.

>> No.20422355

Well as it stands and if it would make you feel any better, the West as a concrete entity is dying but it's locked in a compenetrative relationship with the rest of the world. Yes, immigrants are seemingly slated to wipe out the West biologically, but "Western values" are going worldwide. The whole rest of the world will be English speaking, atheistic workaholics living in liberal democracies and kneeling before the cultural supremacy of USA liberal and negro culture. A real global village if you will. Remember subalterns! Your culture is only what you can pack up and take with you to New York or London. So, basically just food. That's why diversity is so great. Food.

>> No.20424068

>>20406573
They will never accept you.

>> No.20425074

>>20416485
>Calculus was a mistake
Embrace Relativity, Varg.

>> No.20425226

>>20425074
I can respect Varg because he simply wants what was basic throughout history: a small homogeneous village/group that lives in close connection with nature without organization-dependent technologies. I don't agree with his Nordicist bullshit though.

>> No.20425258

>>20416563
If Imperium Press is putting out shit advocating for Italian Elite Theory (which is fine on its own for curiosity sake) they've officially posted their La

>>20416356
That's nice to know were enjoying rent free status in your mind but as far as I'm concerned you're just being divisive and makes me question why Europeans are worth preserving (if that's what you are, you could be a shit for brains ESL for all I know)

>>20416585
After all why shouldn't we nuke your kind?

>> No.20425265

>>20425258
Meant to say "Ls" fucking autocorrect

>> No.20425325

Spengler in a way. He makes you realize that the current craziness will and just come to an end. The unfortunate thing is he makes you realize other things will just get worse.

>> No.20425367

>>20410350
The real problem is the culture is too poisonous to do anything with it. You want to write some novels to cope? Good luck. You like movies and want to be a director and direct a good film? Good luck. You want to make video games? Good luck. The poisonous culture has infected everything and cut off all routes of escape. If we have anymore great books, good movies, or fun video games in our lifetime it will be a miracle indie release.

>> No.20425378

>>20406502
I’ve actually started to think so too.

>> No.20425990

>>20413537
billions will die.

>> No.20427050

>>20408600
wait until you find out who created this website...

>> No.20427066

>>20414760
good one rabbi, go suck more baby cock

>> No.20427079

>>20406350
Western civilization literally doesn't exist. It's just a term used by racists trying to get normies to support anti-immigration policies. It reminds me of this new term 'Judeo-Christian'. It seems to be used by Jews who are trying to ally with Christians in the culture wars. It's funny because a Jewish outlook on the world is polar opposite of a Christian outlook.

>> No.20427086

>>20415697
KEK. I Didn't think I would spot a pol nonwhite demoralizing sperg on lit. The guy is white, both parents are of European descent. Even in your purposely low quality jpg the guy looks white. Nice try Muhammad!

>> No.20427149

>>20427086
where is the blond hair?
Why are the least white whites, always the most supremacist?

>> No.20427178

>>20427149
>where is the blond hair?
Are shitskins this retarded? You can be white and not have blond hair. You will find whites with red, black, and brown hair. Same with different eye color, can't say the same with other ethnic groups. Look at the img this anon posted >>20416161 . White people consist of many groups of people all originating from Europe.

>> No.20427191

>>20427178
you can't be white if you have features that are more common in other races. The same way you can't be nonwhite if you have white features (nazis claim genghis khan was white because he had red hair or something).

So if you have brown hair or black hair and brown eyes then you will never ever be white. Not even in a billion years

>> No.20427201

>>20427178
btw people consist of only people with colorful and colorful hair.

Skin color means nothing, afghanis can have white skin too.
>>20416161 this proof?
Lots of nonwhites live in europe

>> No.20427232

>>20416161
People who identify with a group do so because they feel inferior as individuals.

>> No.20427234

>>20427232
No one did that you're just insecure lmao

>> No.20427247

>>20407046
>>20407087
>>20409429
>it's the rich
>it's the jews
Why not both?

>> No.20427252

>>20427191
>you can't be white if you have features that are common in other races
You are retarded. By your logic the world consist of specific white people(blue eyes, blond eyes, and red hair too) and then everyone else. Arguably based, but this logic is flawed. All races have people with black colored hair. Asians, blacks, white, etc. Do you not believe in categorizing races by specifics?

>>20427201
>btw people consist of only people with colorful and colorful hair.
No they don't. The color of the persons skin the probably the most important feature we decide when categorizing races. Skin color probably comes second.

>afghanis can have white skin too
>can
Woah and white people CAN have brown eyes. It's almost like some simple features like the color of eyes and sometimes hair exists in multiple races.

You clearly do not understand races and are trying to create your own definitions for some crazy narrative.

>> No.20427271

>>20427252
*Hair/eye color probably comes second

>> No.20427329

>>20406350
>The State of White America
I always kind of thought he just published statistics and it pissed people off but sounds like he just wants controversy lmao, must drive book sales

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20427383

>>20406350
already dead now its about shaping the phenix egg

>> No.20427470

>>20414648
wouldn't want them getting too big for their boots in the towering global powerhouse of nottingham

>> No.20427486

>>20427086
He looks inbred or mixed with SSA or Philippinean. Just look at his nose and eyes.
I guess a lot of whites can look more nonwhite than actual nonwhites. Even his manifesto talked about how he thinks Turks are white but not culturally white. Kek.
I don't give a shit if I'm derailing this shit thread.

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>>20427486
I don't care what you think he looks like Muhammed. The guys parents are white, the kid is white. If you can't see this then you have spent too much time on pol.

>> No.20427535

>>20411064
White relativism?

>> No.20427536

>>20427513
>The guys parents are white, the kid is white
There had to be a strong black or two on his Sicilian side. There's no going around this.
Also, post your pic. Something tells me you're defensive because you have a muttish look like him.

>> No.20427541

>>20413697
>>20415109
Sounds good to me.

>> No.20427547

>>20427536
>There had to be a strong black or two on his Sicilian side.
Pathetic case of grasping at straws

>Also, post your pic.
You first Muhammed.

>Something tells me you're defensive because you have a muttish look like him.
>Oh no you brought up factual points and I have nothing to say! Y-You are probably a mutt!

>> No.20427560

>>20427547
Why do you keep saying Muhammad? Also, I bet either your first or last name etymologically descend from Semitic influence whereas neither of mine do, David.
Genuinely kys, you identity politics obsessed zoomer trash.

>> No.20427566

>>20416585
Pure hubris. History will repeat again.

>> No.20427592

>>20427560
>Why do you keep saying Muhammad?
I highly suspect you are a sand nigger.

>Also, I bet either your first or last name etymologically descend from Semitic influence whereas neither of mine do, David.
Nope. The etymology of my first and last name are Celtic.

>Genuinely kys, you identity politics obsessed zoomer trash
Retard you replied to me and tried to derail the thread by adding to the fire of this identity politics discussion. I made sure to correct you when you assumed the shooter wasn't white and you got mad at this.

>> No.20427609

>>20427592
>Nope. The etymology of my first and last name are Celtic.
That's good.
>I made sure to correct you when you assumed the shooter wasn't white and you got mad at this.
He doesn't **look** white, but he could be autosomally white in profile. For example, Sean Connery was white but looks Middle Eastern too.
>I highly suspect you are a sand nigger.
No.
Regardless, you've been worshiping one for ~1000-2000 years and still do.
>by adding to the fire
Stop acting hypocritical, arrogant faggot.

>> No.20427819

>>20407046
> Start a family, collect books and art, leave the cities, join a community,
This fagot thinks the government will just leave him alone in his white commune.

>> No.20427936

>>20427329
The point of that was to avoid the confounding variable of race. He did the same thing in the bell curve.

>> No.20428489

>>20425258
>If Imperium Press is putting out shit advocating for Italian Elite Theory (which is fine on its own for curiosity sake) they've officially posted their La

The iron rule of oligarchy is real and we'll get nowhere as a movement without infiltrating institutions and creating our own. Stay stuck in your bubble bro

Name another right wing publisher doing the work they do too. You can't

>> No.20429191

Anyone who talks about "white culture" and "western civilization" is an American with no ethnic identity

>> No.20429234

>>20429191
no u

>> No.20429512

>>20407300
You don't have any idea what you're talking about. Manmade things are worse than natural things. What happens when your robot hand malfunctions, or your cybereyes get a product recall? What happens when Globocorp decides your online social rhetoric isn't in line with this week's preferred flavor of virtue signalling? You would willingly destroy your autonomy and the nature of your body for the biotechnological equivalent of racing stripe decals, or a dashboard GPS?

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20429675

Men with thick red beards are my race.
White, black, yellow, green. I hate you all.
But men with red beards?
I feel a deep affinity to them.