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Who knows, but they probably won't be as blasé as every faggot atheist getting a boner by thinking their disproving God for the hundredth time.

>>20388446
THIS

they'll be like *huh* and then get back to raising kids

>>20388438
>Catholicism
also anti-christian

>>20388446
Fpbp

>>20388438
>afraid of a little costume party for kids
ABSOLUTE
PROTESTANT
BEHAVIOR

Any and every Catholic who does this is a faggot and unfit of being Christian. St Lawrence wasn't THAT based for you to be this faggy.

>>20388438
Why do Anglos/proddies hate fun so much?

>how will evangelicals react when they learn something satanic has catholic origins

I'm sure this will devastate their worldview.

>>20388473
>patron saint of comedians

Catholicism is pretty witty sometimes.

>>20388460
/thread

>>20388438
>I wonder how they will react when they see the Catholic tie to Halloween
Id be really interested to know what book you read because literally every Halloween book, exposition, sermon, or study I’ve read or watched mentioned how it was A Catholic mixing of pagan holidays.
Go watch Dave hunt, Chuck missler, or just type in “Halloween Christian” on YouTube and click on a random video with a pulpit and it will mention the Catholics appropriated a pagan holiday about warding off spirits by dressing as them.

>>20388446
>ATHEISTS R BAD AGGLE FRAGGLE
How did I know this would be the first response?

>>20388618
Because deep-down you also know it to be true?

>>20388438
Most protestants see Catholicism as being something "weird" that has no relationship to their experience of Christianity. I grew up protestant and almost all of them think that Martin Luther was the black guy. They know nothing about Christianity beyond the lyrics to the Jesus themed pop songs they sing on Sunday mornings while someone's dad strums chords on an acoustic guitar.

>>20388438
Allhallowstide, lasting for three days, is a part of the Western Christian liturgical calendar and has been for more than a thousand years. There is rich symbolism in traditional Halloween practices that can be beneficial. Other forces and hijack allhallowstide and use the season for sin. The answer is engage responsibly.

>and that Christmas and Easter also have Pagan origins.

The whole of Abrahamic religion has pagan origins, so if Christians want to be truly consistent, they shouldn't celebrate anything, or even read the Bible at all

>>20388624
How is this supposed to be true? Can you demonstrate this?

>>20388624
You know what else is true? Jesus was crucified for pedophilia. Crucifixion was the traditional punishment for those sorts of offenses.

>>20388649

>>20388654
Think about it. Pedophiles were typically crucified, and even Jesus’s street name “Christ” alludes to this (deriving from an archaic Greek word meaning “sodomizer”). Modern Christians try to sweep it under the rug, which is understandable.

>>20388654
I have faith that it's true. In fact, the fact that you deny it tells me you know this is true as well, and are just trying to cover this up

>the antiracist baby thread is taken down

>this is allowed to stay up

>>20388438
>I wonder how these christfags will react when they find out that Halloween has a connection to Catholicism and that Christmas and Easter also have Pagan origins
If they're based they will become Nazarenes (basically Judaism but Jesus is the messiah)

>>20388473
>afraid of a little costume party for kids
No wonder catholics are lost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2gVR6WEhqA

>>20388497
Why do Catholics hate the festivities God ordered Israel to celebrate in the Torah, which the apostles also celebrated as prescribed in the Torah even after the resurrection, but will jump head first to celebrate any holiday at all? (Carnaval, Thanksgiving, etc. Just pick your country)

Isn't it weird how catholics and christians in general throw the Torah in the trash while pretending they don't?

>>20388761
It's cause there's a thread of pagan eroticism and pagentry that underlies Catholicism more than any other Christian sect. You can see it in the theatricality of their mass, of their rituals. It's present in the other denominations too, but those lack the bubbling, Dionysian sexuality that lays underneath all that rigid Catholic dogma. It might also explain the Catholic, and by some extent most Christian, rejection of Jewish sacraments and teachings, them coming from a wholly different tradition than Greek born Christendom.

>>20388700
A sacrifice I can live with. Everybody who makes anti-racist baby threads should be broken on the wheel.

>>20388901
>Dionysian sexuality that lays underneath all that rigid Catholic dogma
You are basically just describing the average French/Italian/Spaniard. That's the link here. Anglo Catholics are just as equally devoid of libidinal force to inject in their religiosity as the nextdoor proddie.

>>20388446
>they probably won't be as blasé
I get the feeling that you don't know what that word means... unless you're saying that, unlike the atheists, they WILL care.

>>20388438
>Christmas and Easter also have Pagan origins.
No, they don't. That's been debunked.

>>20388586
It's even funnier that he's the patron saint of chefs.

>>20388497
I don't understand it either. They seem to just actively seek out as many things to shit on and nitpick as they can, like if they dig up every secret sin in the world and miserably condemn it all it makes them the best people ever.
The "your body is a temple, never drink alcohol" shit is some of the funniest and least justifiable. Christ's first miracle as an adult was getting His Mother's drunk family even drunker at the Wedding of Cana to make sure everybody had fun.

>>20388648
You're proof of it

>>20388438
>and that Christmas and Easter also have Pagan origins.
why do atheists think this shit is some big secret that will mindbreak any christian, we learned this shit in sunday school at an early age

>>20388438
>I wonder how these christfags will react when they find out that Halloween has a connection to Catholicism
this book was definitely written by a protestant who would gladly join you in dunking on a papist

>>20388438
Hebeween is an angloyim/protcuck celebration.

>>20388901
Coom brain

>>20388446
destroyed

>>20389356
>I am the true god, THE ONLY
>but uhm... let's copy from pagan holidays, shall we?

>>20389286
How am I proof of it?

>>20388438
There are Christians who do not celebrate any religious holy days other than the Sabbath.

>>20388607
it's none, we have all saints eve, which it's the previous day and it's a day to go to the cemetery to visit our dead relatives.

>>20388649
"the source is that I made it the fuck up"

>>20388668
nothing of this is true.
Enjoy storing for yourself wrath instead of grace

>>20388438
Fundie prots are dumb fucks that believe in Sola scriptura. Who gives a fuck what they think

>>20388901
you see this would be somewhat convincing if it wasn't for the fact that the neopagan/cringe atheist arguments against Catholicism always go for two poles, which are irreconciliable
Sometimes, the church has destroyed the pagan world and culture and plunged the world into centuries of darkness.
Other times, you just use the puritan (Christian) argument that the catholic church is a pagan institution built and maintained by the romanwho clearly persecuted Christians fir centuries for the lolz.
This is just one example of how your arguments are regularly fallacious.
the easter-eoster-ishtar one is particularly lulzy considering that in the Roman empire (and in modern Italian) the feast was called Pasqua from Passover, and colored eggs weren't introduced to the feast until...the reformation.
Again I could go on all day, but if you want the TLDR: sneed

>>20390770
Can you prove it isn't true?

>>20390777
checked

>>20390797
you have to prove it is, the claim is yours.
Christ means "the anointed" and clearly wasnt a title Romans or Jews would give Him. Crucifixion was a sentence used for the worst offences, which obviously in the Roman empire, didn't include pederasty.

>>20388438
>has a connection to Catholicism
>Satanic
Checks out.

>>20390820
>you have to prove it is, the claim is yours.

So close, and yet so far

>>20390406
this particular claim is lulzy. not a single Christian holiday is copied from the pagans, the days are always wrong.
Even the BASED FEAST OF THE SOL INVICTUS AHAHA CHRISTIANS BTFO was introduced by eliogabalus the femboy emperor in about 200aD, and we know that Christmas as the day of birth of the lord was already being remembered by Christians by then

>>20390834
"EXTRAORDINARY CLAIM NEED EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE!!!"
really lol? the preservation of the depositum fidei and the bible and the patristic writings for 2000 years isn't extraordinary? if you went by the same standards with other historical characters you'd have to deny the existence of Julius Caesar.

>>20390838
No you're right, just winter solstice, all the names of the months, the names of the weekdays, easter (derived from 'Ostara'), pretty much all of Christian philosophy (rip offs from Plato and Aristotle), the very idea of monotheism (stolen from Akhenaten), the idea of the golden rule itself (first from rabbi Hillel, then the code of Hammurabi), the idea of a cosmic struggle (ripped off from Zoroastrianism) and most of the concepts of the afterlife (again, mainly Egyptian and Persian religious themes).

Apart from that though, your religion is totally original

>>20388438
Muslims do the same thing.

https://muslimskeptic.com/2019/10/31/how-to-explain-halloween-to-your-muslim-children/

>“That’s true,” I said. “Plus, as Muslims, we know that we don’t have to fear anyone or anything except Allah. We don’t fear fake things like witches or skeletons or ghosts. These are silly things that people made up themselves. They are not real. But Shaytan likes to make people feel fear, so they obey him and not Allah.

>>20390828
ironically it's a Protestant party. we have all saints Day in which we go to the cemetery to meet our departed.

>>20390844
>the preservation of the depositum fidei and the bible and the patristic writings for 2000 years isn't extraordinary?

You do know we have much older texts, right?

Does this make Ishtar even more divine?

>>20390859
it's ironic because they do have to fear demons, their prophet can't protect them the Qur'an itself says so.

>>20390864
no because her tradition didn't survive, she was an idol popular for a while, that's all.

>>20390857
first, Christmas isn't during the winter solstice lmao, it's days after
second "OH NO YOU KEPT THE DAYS OF THE WEEK AND THE MONTHS"
ridiculous.
The Anglo names of the week are also from Nordic pagan gods and the names of the months are the same as ours.
You should try reading a book every once in a while it'd do you good

>>20390877
Most of the original traditions of the early church don't survive either. I really can't remember Jesus walking around in a fish hat and a dress, or wearing a suit while rolling around in money.

Just admit it, your tradition is as empty and changeable as any pagan tradition

>>20390857
further into your autism you know full well that the struggle between good and evil is completely different in Christianity and Zoroastrianism since that faith is dualistic, and that "having an afterlife" is not exactly copying anything, or everyone copies that Buddhists of the pure land included.
Truly, just read a good book every once in a while, you can start with Lewis's apologetic it should be opening level enought lmao

>>20390896
bull. We have patristic text, we know where we are from, that's the whole point.

>>20390896
we have in fact a complete theological record of all the ecounenical councils and all the patristic texts that were referenced therein. Way more than what Muslims who pretend that their book has been perfectly preserved have.

>>20390796
And you keep not addressing the point made here. It's almost as if you're not arguing in good faith.

>>20390900
No, sorry, you don't. You have a text that was agreed upon centuries after the fact, in two languages Jesus probably didn't even speak. Also, most of the original tradition was probably burned for heresy.

Besides, your tradition has always changed and will constantly continue to adapt to new times and new surroundings. It used to be a Near Eastern affair, then it became a European affair, and now it's quickly becoming something dominated by the southern hemisphere and Asia, which will make it radically change once again, as it always have been and always will be

>>20388497
Protestantism is practically Judaism

>>20390913
I'm referencing the texts and books of the fathers of the church, not the gospel, genius. Of course we only agreed what is and isn't canon first at Nicaea, the first ecounenical council. Which is alright because we don't believe in sola scriptura: we believe in the gospel because ITS PART OF THE DEPOSITUM FIDEI not the other way around.

>>20390897
>the struggle between good and evil is completely different in Christianity and Zoroastrianism since that faith is dualistic

Satan isn't Angra Mainyu under a different name? If Satan isn't equal to God, what's keeping God from destroying Satan and all evil right now? Clearly he's struggling with this, just like Ahura Mazda is in the era of mixture

>and that "having an afterlife" is not exactly copying anything

The Egyptian and Persian versions preceded it, so it most certainly is

>>20390913
>Besides, your tradition has always changed and will constantly continue to adapt to new times and new surroundings. It used to be a Near Eastern affair, then it became a European affair, and now it's quickly becoming something dominated by the southern hemisphere and Asia, which will make it radically change once again, as it always have been and always will be
"the source is that I made it the fuck up"

>>20390905
>we have in fact a complete theological record of all the ecounenical councils and all the patristic texts that were referenced therein

Jesus and his apostles led councils? When was that?

>>20390926
no, Satan isn't Angra manyu under a different name he's a fallen angel.
Read anything.
and no, having an afterlife isn't copying anything. Would you argue that the Chinese copied theirs from the Egyptians?

>>20390933
The apostles's successors did, read up "apostolic succession"
it's never been the claim that Jesus led the council of Nicaea in 300 ad lmao

>>20390926
>Making sweeping declarations about Christianity when you don't even know the most basic introductory doctrine
Embarassing. There are no Christian denominations of note that consider Satan an equal to God

>>20390857
>just winter solstice
Christmas isn’t on the winter solstice. It comes from the term ‘Christ Mass’ and was already celebrated at a very early date on the current date
>all the names of the months, the names of the weekdays
Christianity has existed for millennia in countries outside of Europe. Not all languages use these names. It doesn’t even matter either. Saying that ‘akshually Thursday means Thor’s day, Christcucks BTFO!’ is low-brow and irrelevant.
>easter (derived from 'Ostara')
Easter is actually called Pascha from the Hebrew word from Passover. April in Old English was known as Ēastermōnaþ In Germanic languages alone, Easter became associated with Pascha for obvious reasons. Pascha has existed since the very beginning of Christianity long before Christians ever set foot in Germanic lands.
>pretty much all of Christian philosophy (rip offs from Plato and Aristotle)
All true philosophy is usable and should not be discarded. Church Fathers taught this.
>the very idea of monotheism (stolen from Akhenaten)
Wow, he realized there was one God? Good for him.
>the idea of the golden rule itself (first from rabbi Hillel, then the code of Hammurabi)
Paul wrote that the Gentiles knew the things of the law from their own nature. You can also find it in Buddhist and Vedic texts. It’s a true law, and that is why Christ taught it was fundamental.
>the idea of a cosmic struggle (ripped off from Zoroastrianism)
God is absolutely sovereign, Satan is a creature, there is no real cosmic struggle. Evil doesn’t exist metaphysically.
>and most of the concepts of the afterlife (again, mainly Egyptian and Persian religious themes).
Irrelevant. It’s true.

Next you’ll claim that flood myths in Greece, Sumeria, India and all over the world debunk Christianity rather than confirm it lmao

>>20390945
in fact, not even gnostics

>>20390920
>I'm referencing the texts and books of the fathers of the church

And why should anyone assume any of that will outlast the Gospels? It will most likely either be forgotten completely, just like most of the Gnostic sects are today, and change completely beyond recognition, especially with China becoming more Christian. It will probably involve a lot of Confucian and Buddhist thought, with stuff you consider completely essential being discarded entirely

>>20390947
I answered most of these things already but thank you, very well done.

>>20390951
because it's a living tradition.
https://youtu.be/IJA-wIRctmE
here have a nice YouTube channel that explains things well enought.

>>20390933
>he hasn’t read Acts
Embarrassing.

>>20390926
Christianity isn’t dualism. God is in charge of everything, even when things go against Him. He uses these events either for His further glory or to bring men to salvation and repentence. All things happen to bring about a greater ultimate good. The Book of Job shows that Satan is powerless without God permitting Him to do something. One can think of events such as the Russian Revolution, a horrible event led by atheists and other demonic forces, but also created massive amounts of saints and martyrs. Christianity thrives when the blood of the martyrs flows.

>>20390953
Glad to see that other anons are already on it.

>>20390947
Blessed knower. Thank you for dropping knowledge, sincerely.

>>20390972
likewise glad to have some help

>>20388438
/thread typical Aalewys going ape shit that he can't control how others live, think and feel

>>20388438
These type of people kill Christianity by imprisoning him to building and a book. Holidays and festivities can spread the Christian message a type of church service outside of church, even if they're strictly commercial these days.

>>20389221
>your body is a temple, never drink alcohol
I've seen people who don't drink alcohol or coffee to keep themselves off intoxicants and stimulants drink soda by the gallons. Their health is their own to look after, but I would say most soft drinks are unhealthier than alcohol or coffee.